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Title: Photo Documents Barry Soetoro: Indonesian Citizen, Muslim Religion
Source: texasdarlin.wordpress.com
URL Source: http://texasdarlin.wordpress.com/20 ... ents-barry-soetoro-indonesian/
Published: Sep 5, 2008
Author: TD
Post Date: 2008-10-21 10:07:20 by bluegrass
Keywords: None
Views: 351
Comments: 22

So much for the "Anyone that says Obama was a Muslim or anything other than a US citizen is a racist, paranoid nut" smear.

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#1. To: christine, Pinguinite, angle, Lady X, Cynicom, Tauzero, aristeides, wbales, Ridinshotgun, DeaconBenjamin, Horse, Ada, Ferret Mike, HOUNDDAWG, wadosy, nikki, farmfriend, Jethro Tull, Dakmar (#0)

Go to link for full story.

Ahmadinejad in 2008!
Everyone agrees that unanimity is hard to find.

bluegrass  posted on  2008-10-21   10:08:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: bluegrass (#0)

What This Documentation Means

This AP photo is compelling evidence of the following assertions, which have been set forth on this blog:

1. Barack Obama had Indonesian citizenship

2. Barack Obama had the legal name Barry Soetoro

3. Barack Obama was a Muslim, despite his “fight the smears” claim that he never has been. (see story that we posted on this topic).

When was Barack Obama going to tell the electorate about his Indonesian identity and citizenship?

What is the current status of his Indonesian citizenship?

Did Barack Obama travel to Pakistan in 1981 on an Indonesian passport?

Does his birth certificate say Barry Soetoro?

Did he ever legally change his name from Soetoro to Obama?

Is the correct name on the ballot?

i don't get it. what's the problem with just answering the questions? /s

Do You Know What Freedom Really Means? Freedom4um.com

christine  posted on  2008-10-21   10:45:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: christine, Arator, Ferret Mike, a vast rightwing conspirator, iconoclast (#2)

what's the problem with just answering the questions? /s

What questions? ; )

This'll be the new honesty and Change that's been touted all year. Obama's gonna fix and change EVERYTHING! /s

Ahmadinejad in 2008!
Everyone agrees that unanimity is hard to find.

bluegrass  posted on  2008-10-21   10:47:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: bluegrass (#1)

Hey, it's just a goddamn piece of paper.

If race doesn't matter, why, in the textbook on cultural diversity, is the section on blacks the longest and the section on asians the shortest?

Tauzero  posted on  2008-10-21   12:54:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: bluegrass (#0)

"Anyone that says Obama was a Muslim or anything other than a US citizen is a racist, paranoid nut" smear.

Regarding his being a Muslim, no one can contest that he IS a Muslim under Muslim law. He may not view himself as a Muslim, worship as a Muslim, or observe Muslim precepts, but that will not affect how orthodox Muslims view him.

The U.S. Constitution is no impediment to our form of government.--PJ O'Rourke

DeaconBenjamin  posted on  2008-10-21   18:43:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: bluegrass (#0)

Thanks for this vital piece of info, Einstein.

Minus accident of birth .. GWB, Mgr. Hardees ... McBomb, Mgr. Burger King .. (both flunked out at Hamburger U.)

iconoclast  posted on  2008-10-24   18:02:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: bluegrass (#0) (Edited)

Did you notice that this paper says he was born in HONOLULU ??!!

Notwithstanding that his stepdad may have fudged on the boy's nationality (AND name AND religion) to get him into school in Indonesia, US law does not allow American-born children to be divested of their US citizenship, even by both parents, during their minority. At worst, Obama might have then had a dual citizenship, both US and Indonesian. That would hardly be a disqualifier; Michelle Bachman, a Republican contender in 2012, was - right up through Election Day - a dual citizen with US and Swiss citizenships (she relinquished the Swiss citizenship AFTER the Republican Convention - and nobody made an issue of it during the campaign).

Shoonra  posted on  2013-03-04   20:04:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Shoonra (#7)

You are certainly a thorough mother fucker. Responding to a post that is 4 1/2 years old and predates your registration by 9 months to a poster who has been gone for a year. See if you can find the post about me scratching my ass. Hint: it may have been on another forum and I am left handed.

“Anti-semitism is a disease–you catch it from Jews”–Edgar J. Steele

“The jew cries out in pain, as he strikes you.”–Polish proverb

“I would like to express my heartfelt apologies for the unfortunate and tasteless quotes I published in my tag lines. I am very sorry and ashamed. I never wanted to offend anyone, or to encroach human rights."- Hmmmmm

Hmmmmm  posted on  2013-03-04   22:46:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Hmmmmm, Shoonra (#8)

LOL! Shoon has to defend the Kenyan at all costs. Keeps trying to tell us that the Kenyan was born in Hawaii despite the fact that his Kenyan grandma said he was born in Kenya, the thing Obama calls his wife said Kenya was his homeland and the Kenyan ambassador said he was born there.

Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.

Paul Craig Roberts

James Deffenbach  posted on  2013-03-04   23:06:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Shoonra (#7)

disinformationalist misdirectionalist extrordinaire

__ There are only two kinds of americans left in the USA those opposed to the tyranny and those that are wrong. Resist propaganda, Support strict constitutional adherence!

titorite  posted on  2013-03-04   23:49:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: titorite (#10)

disinformationalist misdirectionalist extrordinaire

Not really, at least not here. One thing Shoo-Shoo does do well though, is to further the cause of anti-semitism. The legends of Josef Goebbels and Adolph Hitler would be proud of him.

On a long enough timeline the survival rate for everyone drops to zero.

Godfrey Smith: Mike, I wouldn't worry. Prosperity is just around the corner.
Mike Flaherty: Yeah, it's been there a long time. I wish I knew which corner.
My Man Godfrey (1936)

Esso  posted on  2013-03-05   12:53:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Shoonra (#7)

still does not make your orally induced DNA donor a natural born citizen required for one to be POTUS


I used to be in a hurry, then I figured out I was just getting nowhere fast.

IRTorqued  posted on  2013-03-05   14:12:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Hmmmmm (#8)

Having come across this via the search engine, I did not pay any attention to the date this thread was started and I certainly did not investigate the author of the first message. I simply felt it necessary to point out crucial facts that trip up the birfers.

Shoonra  posted on  2013-03-05   16:24:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Shoonra (#13)

facts? what do you know about facts?


I used to be in a hurry, then I figured out I was just getting nowhere fast.

IRTorqued  posted on  2013-03-05   17:17:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: IRTorqued (#14)

S/he has never been acquainted with any facts. Still insists that the Kenyan was born in Hawaii despite the fact his grandma--his KENYAN grandma--said he was born there. Manchelle said Kenya was/is his homeland. The Kenyan ambassador said he was born there. Shoon doesn't really care about facts, just feels the need, like Bush, to catapult the propaganda.

Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.

Paul Craig Roberts

James Deffenbach  posted on  2013-03-05   17:22:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Shoonra (#7)

At worst, Obama might have then had a dual citizenship, both US and Indonesian.

Indonesia does not allow citizens to hold dual citizenship. and Indonesia did not allow foreign students to attend their public schools in the late 1960’s or 1970’s.

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2013-03-05   18:13:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: HOUNDDAWG (#16)

Indonesia does not allow citizens to hold dual citizenship. and Indonesia did not allow foreign students to attend their public schools in the late 1960’s or 1970’s.

Good heavens! That's an inconvenient little factoid. BAD DAWG! ;)

On a long enough timeline the survival rate for everyone drops to zero.

Godfrey Smith: Mike, I wouldn't worry. Prosperity is just around the corner.
Mike Flaherty: Yeah, it's been there a long time. I wish I knew which corner.
My Man Godfrey (1936)

Esso  posted on  2013-03-05   19:17:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Esso (#17)

Indonesia does not allow citizens to hold dual citizenship. and Indonesia did not allow foreign students to attend their public schools in the late 1960’s or 1970’s.

Good heavens! That's an inconvenient little factoid. BAD DAWG! ;)

**********************

Well, it's the next worst thing to leaving a little DAWGGY love on Shoonie's genuine, Mongolian Monkey Skin Berber!

So, after frantically searching for something, ANYTHING to dispute the inconvenient factoids (Bingo, I found it in THE LEXICON of IDENTIFIABLE ANTI semitism from RABBINICAL SOURCES or L.I.A.R.S. for short, it says here that the webmaster of that site may have called his neighbor a "Kike" when they were both eight years old! (YES it was USED BEFORE-get Wolf Blitzer to announce it-nobody questions his creds or veracity) "The operative phrase, "may have" is to be immediately followed with the implication that the target is a Nazi cannibal who will stop at nothing to hurt our beloved, hand reared Manchurian Muslim Sleeper Agent. (hrMMSA)

The next step is to return to the story that ewe gno hoo was born on the island that allows anyone up to the age of 45 to claim citizenship as long as his/her ethnicity boosts the numbers of non Europeans. ("You don't got no proof? Itz okay, Ese, We believe you! I mean, everybody sayz I sound like I'm from East L.A. and my uncle Jesus sent my Chebby Monte Carlo over in boxes marked "spare parts" on Dole Fruit Company barges, and now I was born here too, Homes! (wink wink). Yeah, I heard that Five 0 is hiring...what do they call 'em, oh yeah, "agents" who speak Spanish. Can you picture me as a cop, Ese? My Uncle Manuel in San Q is gonna flip!"

SUMMARY

His Excellency never relinquished his *Merkenship no matter what Indonesian laws may have been inadvertently overlooked while a student there.

"Well, because my father was a native I guess the school system just assumed that I was too, and the subject never came up! In fact, I didn't know that I did not meet the qualifications of foreign born students until one of my lawyers Mr. Cohen, a senior partner in the law firm of Harrigan, Baxter & Smythe-stand up and take a bow, Mr. Cohen!, pointed it out to me last week!" (Audience laughter cue sign illuminated)

*Merkenship-Rabbinical Code net text page 666

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2013-03-05   21:38:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: HOUNDDAWG (#18)

BAD, BAD DAWGGIE!

Don't let anybody see me giving you this piece of bacon!

On a long enough timeline the survival rate for everyone drops to zero.

Godfrey Smith: Mike, I wouldn't worry. Prosperity is just around the corner.
Mike Flaherty: Yeah, it's been there a long time. I wish I knew which corner.
My Man Godfrey (1936)

Esso  posted on  2013-03-05   21:43:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: HOUNDDAWG (#18)

I will assume you are correct that Indonesia does not allow dual citizenships. Also someone else's claim that Indonesian schools are closed to non-Muslims.

It seems obvious to me that Stepdad Soetoro fibbed on the paperwork to get little Barack squared away at a school in Indonesia - he fibbed about the boy's name, religion, and he may have fibbed about the boy's citizenship - and I wouldn't be surprised if money was passed as well - to get Barack into a local school.

The point, however, is that under US law little Barack, having been born a US citizen, as shown by the fact that he was on his mother's US passport, could not be deprived of his US citizenship while a minor, even by act of both parents. What was pretended to the Indonesian school does not affect that.

Shoonra  posted on  2013-03-06   0:03:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: Shoonra (#20)

The point, however, is that under US law little Barack, having been born a US citizen, as shown by the fact that he was on his mother's US passport, could not be deprived of his US citizenship while a minor, even by act of both parents. What was pretended to the Indonesian school does not affect that.

A supposition that could be proven or at least bolstered by the release of his BC and maybe more important, his adult college transcripts. Oh what a tangled web we weave when first we practice to deceive.

“Anti-semitism is a disease–you catch it from Jews”–Edgar J. Steele

“The jew cries out in pain, as he strikes you.”–Polish proverb

“I would like to express my heartfelt apologies for the unfortunate and tasteless quotes I published in my tag lines. I am very sorry and ashamed. I never wanted to offend anyone, or to encroach human rights."- Hmmmmm

Hmmmmm  posted on  2013-03-06   1:28:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: Shoonra (#20)

The point, however, is that under US law little Barack, having been born a US citizen, as shown by the fact that he was on his mother's US passport, could not be deprived of his US citizenship while a minor, even by act of both parents. What was pretended to the Indonesian school does not affect that.

You may be right, but your seeming willingness to be forthcoming with exculpatory facts is not shared by the president.

He hired an army to lock away too much info and to stage manage that which was presented to the citizens.

People have a right to know the things that he has hidden. And we know instinctively that if he was legit your tireless efforts in his defense would be completely unnecessary, which is why you are incessantly battered.

And there's also the issue of what your have to gain from your efforts. It certainly isn't the altruistic satisfaction of the pursuit of honesty and truth in govt. And, the absence of honesty and openness does not lend to our system of self govt. It only benefits swindlers and those with murky agendas who conspire to enslave us, and harness our energy for their benefit.

Would you care to explain why you defend the indefensible and in the process reveal that which you have chosen to hide from us? You would of course risk being reduced to a stereotype.

For instance, if asked "Shoonra, have you ever had a bar/bat Mitzvah?"

Shoonra: "Yes"

HOUNDDAWG: "I knew it I knew it I knew it I knew it I knew it I knew it.....

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2013-03-07   9:48:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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