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Title: Any Mason's here?
Source: X-15
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Published: Oct 21, 2008
Author: X-15
Post Date: 2008-10-21 17:18:18 by X-15
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I'm going to a lodge meeting in a couple of weeks to see what it's all about. Is it a good way to network in my community?

Most of the Founding Fathers were Masons as were most of the Founding Fathers of the Republic of Texas: www.grandlodgeoftexas.org/Tx_heroes-2.php

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#19. To: X-15 (#0)

I'm going to a lodge meeting in a couple of weeks to see what it's all about. Is it a good way to network in my community?

Star in the East Lodge #33 represent! (Owatonna MN)

I joined a couple of years ago without knowing what Masons do--all I knew was that if there was a conspiracy afoot, I wanted in!

Still haven't found the conspiracy. What I have found are a great group of guys who I have a deep bond with--strangely enough, age, politics, and religion doesn't affect that bond. It's the world's largest and oldest fraternity--you'll have Brothers literally all over the world.

You'll find that we're all a bunch of intelligent weirdos.

Indrid Cold  posted on  2008-10-21   22:19:53 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Checked out a couple of books from the campus library after class tonight, I'm reading up on the Old Charges and the differences between operative and speculative masonry. It seems to be "a peculiar systems of morality, veiled in allegory and illustrated by symbols" to use their own words.

X-15  posted on  2008-10-21   23:04:21 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

It seems to be "a peculiar systems of morality, veiled in allegory and illustrated by symbols" to use their own words.

Uh, yes, that's accurate.

The difference between operative and speculative masonry is that one builds walls and one doesn't, though they may share the same clubhouse. At some point in time (1400s-1500s) European noblemen were allowed to join Masonry, though why they'd want to join a labor guild is not elaborated upon. Presumably cosmic secrets were in a lot smaller supply back then...

We refer to (small "g") god as the "Great Architect", not Lucifer. ("Small g" because Masonry requires you to have a belief in god as you understand him/her/it/them, not necessarily in the Christian sense.

Indrid Cold  posted on  2008-10-21   23:34:28 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Are you familiar at all with this?

"Des Griffin quotes Lady Queensborough's book, "Occult Theocrasy," that records Albert Pike's own words: "Yes, Lucifer is God, and unfortunately Adonay (Jehovah) is also God. For the eternal Law is that there is no light without shade, no beauty without ugliness, no white without black. For the Absolute can only exist as two Gods: darkness being necessary to light to serve as its foil as the pedestal is necessary to the statue and the brake to the locomotive. The doctrine of Satanism is a heresy; and the true and pure philosophic Religion 'is the belief in Lucifer,' the equal of Adonay; but Lucifer, God of Light and God of Good, is struggling for humanity against Adonay, the God of Darkness and Evil." (La Femme et L' enfant dans La Frac-Maconnerie Universelle, by A.C. De La Rive, pg. 588, and Occult Theocrasy, by Lady Queensborough, pg. 220,221) Quoted from Fourth Reich of the Rich, Griffin, pg. 70,71"

FormerLurker  posted on  2008-10-21   23:47:39 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Are you familiar at all with this?

I am. I have that book and Descent Into Slavery by Des Griffin. Both are great books.

James Deffenbach  posted on  2008-10-22   0:00:40 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

#41. To: James Deffenbach (#40)

I have that book and Descent Into Slavery by Des Griffin. Both are great books.

I just found what I was looking for with Google, but I'll need to read those books.

FormerLurker  posted on  2008-10-22 00:02:38 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

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