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Title: Palin Favors "path to citizenship" for Illegal Immigrants
Source: Freedom's Lighthouse
URL Source: http://www.freedomslighthouse.com/2 ... s-path-to-citizenship-for.html
Published: Oct 23, 2008
Author: ?
Post Date: 2008-10-23 10:34:18 by James Deffenbach
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Views: 1001
Comments: 76

Palin Favors "path to citizenship" for Illegal Immigrants

Gov. Sarah Palin's view on Immigration appears to mirror that of Sen. John McCain. In an interview yesterday, she says she supports a "path to citizenship" for "undocumented" (i.e. illegal) immigrants:

Governor, let me ask you about immigration. How many undocumented immigrants are there in Alaska?

I don't know, I don't know. That's a good question.

As governor, how do you deal with them? Do you think they all should be deported?

There is no way that in the US we would roundup every illegal immigrant -there are about 12 million of the illegal immigrants- not only economically is that just an impossibility but that's not a humane way anyway to deal with the issue that we face with illegal immigration.

Do you then favor an amnesty for the 12 or 13 million undocumented immigrants?

No, I do not. I do not. Not total amnesty. You know, people have got to follow the rules. They've got to follow the bar, and we have got to make sure that there is equal opportunity and those who are here legally should be first in line for services being provided and those opportunities that this great country provides.

To clarify, so you support a path to citizenship for undocumented immigrants?

I do because I understand why people would want to be in America. To seek the safety and prosperity, the opportunities, the health that is here. It is so important that yes, people follow the rules so that people can be treated equally and fairly in this country.


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America is sooooooo screwed. Out of all the one party candidates--that would be McCain, Palin, Obama and Biden--there isn't one of them who wouldn't welcome every illegal alien who is already here and all the rest who want to come. The country is doomed.

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#1. To: angle (#0)

there are about 12 million of the illegal immigrants

She's off by about 60%. Doesn't know how many are in Alaska.

angle  posted on  2008-10-23   10:38:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: James Deffenbach (#0)

America is sooooooo screwed. Out of all the one party candidates--that would be McCain, Palin, Obama and Biden--there isn't one of them who wouldn't welcome every illegal alien who is already here and all the rest who want to come. The country is doomed.

Fact is there are already enough non-whites here to doom it. About 1/2 of kids under the age of 5 ain't white.

He pecks a few holes in a tree to see
If a redwood's really red

Tauzero  posted on  2008-10-23   10:43:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: James Deffenbach (#0)

Do you then favor an amnesty for the 12 or 13 million undocumented immigrants?

No, I do not. I do not. Not total amnesty. You know, people have got to follow the rules. They've got to follow the bar, and we have got to make sure that there is equal opportunity and those who are here legally should be first in line for services being provided and those opportunities that this great country provides.

To clarify, so you support a path to citizenship for undocumented immigrants?

I do because I understand why people would want to be in America. To seek the safety and prosperity, the opportunities, the health that is here. It is so important that yes, people follow the rules so that people can be treated equally and fairly in this country.

uh..what's the difference between amnesty and a path to citizenship?

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christine  posted on  2008-10-23   10:43:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: christine (#3)

What the difference bertween "annesty" and "total amnesty".

angle  posted on  2008-10-23   10:47:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: christine (#3) (Edited)

what's the difference between amnesty and a path to citizenship?

Political rhetoric. Otherwise known as BS. You hear it all the time: "I don't favor amnesty, I favor a path to citizenship" from McPalin, or "I'm not pro- (partial birth) abortion, I'm pro-choice" from Obama .

But not to worry, Palin's drooling fanboys will think she's great no matter what she says or does.

Rupert_Pupkin  posted on  2008-10-23   11:11:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Tauzero (#2)

If the non-whites were mostly Asians, we'd be in pretty good shape.

“I would give no thought of what the world might say of me, if I could only transmit to posterity the reputation of an honest man.” - Sam Houston

Sam Houston  posted on  2008-10-23   11:23:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Tauzero (#2)

Fact is there are already enough non-whites here to doom it. About 1/2 of kids under the age of 5 ain't white.

I don't care what color anyone is but I do care that the politicians, at least enough of them to get it done, want to see America overrun with people who care nothing about America and who know nothing about America; who never want to be Americans and whose culture is so different that many of them think raping a 12 year old is a marriage proposal. There was one (an illegal) in the county I live in who tried to kidnap a little girl out of her own yard. Fortunately the little girl screamed and her uncle went to the guys house and sorted him out a bit before the cops got there.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2008-10-23   11:24:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: christine (#3)

uh..what's the difference between amnesty and a path to citizenship?

I haven't seen any difference. All boils down to the same thing in the end as far as I can tell.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2008-10-23   11:26:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: James Deffenbach (#8)

All boils down to the same thing in the end as far as I can tell.

Future cannon fodder?

Cynicom  posted on  2008-10-23   11:29:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Sam Houston (#6)

Yeah, I sometimes think the only hope for whites is to merge with Asians -- but why the hell would they want that?

He pecks a few holes in a tree to see
If a redwood's really red

Tauzero  posted on  2008-10-23   11:30:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: James Deffenbach (#7)

I don't care what color anyone is

Of this you can be sure: Neocons began to support immigration restriction ONLY after it NO LONGER MATTERED.

He pecks a few holes in a tree to see
If a redwood's really red

Tauzero  posted on  2008-10-23   11:32:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: James Deffenbach (#0)

Gov. Sarah Palin's view on Immigration appears to mirror that of Sen. John McCain.

I knew she was a fraud, and said so from the get go. She's off to my very own political Siberia, where she can mingle with like minded anti-Americans.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-10-23   11:33:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: James Deffenbach (#0)

There is no way that in the US we would roundup every illegal immigrant -there are about 12 million of the illegal immigrants-

Do you then favor an amnesty for the 12 or 13 million undocumented immigrants?

DAMMIT!!! Nothing pisses me off more than both politicians AND MSM JACKASSES who keep clinging to that "12 or 13 million" number!! DAMMIT!! DAMMIT!!! DAMMIT!!!! @#*$!*#@$!!!#*%&!@*#%!!

“The best and first guarantor of our neutrality and our independent existence is the defensive will of the people…and the proverbial marksmanship of the Swiss shooter. Each soldier a good marksman! Each shot a hit!”
-Schweizerische Schuetzenzeitung (Swiss Shooting Federation) April, 1941

X-15  posted on  2008-10-23   11:35:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: X-15 (#13)

MSM JACKASSES who keep clinging to that "12 or 13 million" number!!

MSM even quotes the number of Illegals having sub-prime mortgages at 5 million !!!

There has to be 25-30 million illegals here.

There is no honor in bending one's knee to the banking elites that are robbing the children you claim to love of their future. Soon they'll convince those very same children that you deserve to be eliminated ... and they may be right.

Doug Scheidt 10-21-08

noone222  posted on  2008-10-23   11:42:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Tauzero (#11)

Neocons began to support immigration restriction

...in rhetoric only.

Rupert_Pupkin  posted on  2008-10-23   11:54:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: noone222 (#14)

More like 40 million, at least. Figure Kalifornia getting 1 million a year, extend that to at least another 5 million over the rest of the U.S. and multiply that by 8+ years for a number nobody will face. The biggest lie of all is the stable "12 or 13 million" that has been thrown in our face for the last 8 years.

“The best and first guarantor of our neutrality and our independent existence is the defensive will of the people…and the proverbial marksmanship of the Swiss shooter. Each soldier a good marksman! Each shot a hit!”
-Schweizerische Schuetzenzeitung (Swiss Shooting Federation) April, 1941

X-15  posted on  2008-10-23   11:55:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: X-15 (#16)

Between the Political Jackals, the Banking Cabal, the multi-national fascists and the media whores ... there ain't no bad targets ... you hardly need to aim !

There is no honor in bending one's knee to the banking elites that are robbing the children you claim to love of their future. Soon they'll convince those very same children that you deserve to be eliminated ... and they may be right.

Doug Scheidt 10-21-08

noone222  posted on  2008-10-23   11:56:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Jethro Tull (#12) (Edited)

I knew she was a fraud, and said so from the get go.

McCain needed a fraud as a prop. Palin was a very wise pick as a prop for the neocons. She may have won over a few Hillary supporters who just wanted ANY woman in or near the White House. She says a few things that sound nebulously "libertarian," and her folksy style (keeping policy talk at an elementary school level) appeals to as many or more people as it turns off.

But when Palin's pressed on policy, she's just another tool of the neoconservatives. I knew that Palin was a lost cause when she started talking about Iraq's role in 9/11 (something even Bush isn't stupid enough to say anymore) and other neocon talking points from 5 years ago.

What amazes me is that there are people here who want McCain to be elected and to die shortly after taking office so that she could be President. As ignorant as she is, she'll be an even easier mark for the neoconservatives. Plus her general ditziness makes her more of an embarassment to this country than McCain is. I never thought I'd say this, but if Mad Mac is elected, I wish him perfect health for the next 4 years.

Rupert_Pupkin  posted on  2008-10-23   11:59:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: X-15 (#16) (Edited)

More like 40 million

Add to that another 20 million Mexican indigents who became citizens but never should have.

Rupert_Pupkin  posted on  2008-10-23   12:00:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: X-15 (#13)

Nothing pisses me off more than both politicians AND MSM JACKASSES who keep clinging to that "12 or 13 million" number!!

Roundoff error, base six million number system.

He pecks a few holes in a tree to see
If a redwood's really red

Tauzero  posted on  2008-10-23   12:03:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: X-15 (#13)

DAMMIT!!! Nothing pisses me off more than both politicians AND MSM JACKASSES who keep clinging to that "12 or 13 million" number!! DAMMIT!! DAMMIT!!! DAMMIT!!!! @#*$!*#@$!!!#*%&!@*#%!!

There are 30-40+++ million illegal immigrants in the U.S.

This number is growing each and every day.

TwentyTwelve  posted on  2008-10-23   12:11:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: All (#0)

Sarah, what the hell happened between us? I thought we had a good thing going: I vote for you and you remain hot without stepping in it. But, now, you have delivered the most unkindest cut of all. You stabbed me in the back after all we've been through, after I stuck up for you when my friends said we weren't right for each other. This is a deal-breaker for me, there is no way we can have a future together. I'm saying goodbye and I hope you find the voter that will make you happy.

“The best and first guarantor of our neutrality and our independent existence is the defensive will of the people…and the proverbial marksmanship of the Swiss shooter. Each soldier a good marksman! Each shot a hit!”
-Schweizerische Schuetzenzeitung (Swiss Shooting Federation) April, 1941

X-15  posted on  2008-10-23   12:22:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: Rupert_Pupkin (#18)

But when Palin's pressed on policy, she's just another tool of the neoconservatives.

Exactly. I can understand the Mad Mac voters here in this respect; both the Rs and Ds will have a mirror image foreign policy. As long as Israel & oil are in the equation, our State department will dictate policy. AFA domestic policy, there is a slight difference re; guns, taxes, the fairness doctrine, and other forms of affirmative action giveaways. If you like what the various collegiate Black Unions and gay rights groups do to campus life, you'll love what's coming our way w/the Dark Overlord. That isn't to say Mad Mac won't also bring that to us, but it will just come at a slowed pace. Anyway.....that's my take and I'm sticking to it :P

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-10-23   12:25:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: X-15 (#22)

This is a deal-breaker for me, there is no way we can have a future together.

X-15, I just wanted to say thanks for being a shining example of an open minded person. Only you and Justin Raimondo (him with Obama) have manned up and dumped the damaged political cargo overboard once their flaws became obvious. Bravo!

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-10-23   12:30:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: Jethro Tull (#24)

I'll second that.

I just wish that more right-leaning libertarians and left-leading anti-war activists would recognize Palin and Obama for the vacuous frauds that they are. It seems that with most people, once they make up their minds, no amount of evidence can convince them that they're wrong.

Rupert_Pupkin  posted on  2008-10-23   12:32:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: Jethro Tull (#24)

The bitch used me, how could I be so blind??

“The best and first guarantor of our neutrality and our independent existence is the defensive will of the people…and the proverbial marksmanship of the Swiss shooter. Each soldier a good marksman! Each shot a hit!”
-Schweizerische Schuetzenzeitung (Swiss Shooting Federation) April, 1941

X-15  posted on  2008-10-23   12:37:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: Rupert_Pupkin (#25)

I just wish that more right-leaning libertarians and left-leading anti-war activists would recognize Palin and Obama for the vacuous frauds that they are

Well said, R_P. It's going to be a rocky road ahead for us folks who live by the code above, but it makes the most sense to me.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-10-23   12:37:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: X-15 (#26) (Edited)

The bitch used me, how could I be so blind??

I know what it's like. You meet what you think is the perfect girl, and while you're asleep, she goes and whores around at the local pool hall.

Sarah's got some fishnet stockings of her own, and when no conservative voters are watching, she's "servicing" Joe Lieberman.

Rupert_Pupkin  posted on  2008-10-23   12:39:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: Rupert_Pupkin (#5)

But not to worry, Palin's drooling fanboys will think she's great no matter what she says or does.

This broad is nothing short of a dizzy bitch who has sold out whatever decency she may have had to join the likes of bush,mcinsane,rove, and all their neocon asshole buddies. She's as sick to watch as bush and quite possibly more ignorant.

We are screwed-we are screwed- we are screwed!!!

LACUMO  posted on  2008-10-23   12:39:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: Jethro Tull (#27) (Edited)

One of Ronald Reagan's biggest faults was that he supported his own form of amnesty for illegal aliens. When pressed about it by conservatives, he said something like "What's all the fuss about Mexicans coming over here illegally?"

Why do so many tough-talking conservatives turn into sappy liberals on the immigration issue? It must be because their corporate masters love that undocumented two buck an hour labor. The last time a mainstream politician did anything decent on the immigration issue was Eisenhower with "Operation Wetback."

Rupert_Pupkin  posted on  2008-10-23   12:41:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: X-15 (#26)

We all fall for their traps from time to time. The power of the MSM to package and sell "hope" in the form of the very people (politicians) who have brought us to this point in history can't be underestimated.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-10-23   12:42:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: Rupert_Pupkin (#30)

One of Reagan's nicknames when he was the gov. of CA was "Ronald Region" given to him by opponents of regional government. He was for it. Regional government replaces elected officials w/appointed bureaucrats and blurs the lines bet. counties, thus making taxes and such "more equitable." My political mentor removed my rose colored RR glasses with that fact.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-10-23   12:47:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: Jethro Tull (#31)

We all fall for their traps from time to time. The power of the MSM to package and sell "hope" in the form of the very people (politicians) who have brought us to this point in history can't be underestimated.

When Obummer first hit the scene, he sold himself as the anti-war alternative to Hillary Clinton. Since people didn't know much else about him, he seemed like a good "lesser evil" choice among the Democrats.

It wasn't until he became the nominee that he changed his song, making it clear to AIPAC and the DNC that all that anti-war talk was just rhetoric to win over disaffected voters. Now he's barely distinguishable from McCain as he promises to defend Israel from Iran and send troops into Pakistan.

And McCain was also a pretty slick package - a "maverick" fiscal conservative who fights pork and earmarks. And what does he do? He signs onto the Bush/Barney Frank/Pelosi bailout, and goes around the Senate convincing his skeptical colleagues to sign on. How does he do it? You guessed it - by promising to add on their favorite earmarks to the bill!

But the image of "Anti-War Obama" and "Maverick McCain" still sticks in a lot of dull, stubborn minds.

Rupert_Pupkin  posted on  2008-10-23   12:47:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: James Deffenbach (#0)

SurPRISE! Palin's a Traitorous Whore!! Who would've GUESSED?!

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2008-10-23   12:48:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: angle (#1)

there are about 12 million of the illegal immigrants

She's off by about 60%. Doesn't know how many are in Alaska.

A 'banker' friend of mine said the 'banking industry insiders' estimate upwards of 40,000,000 illegals in AmeriKa.

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2008-10-23   12:52:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: christine (#3)

uh..what's the difference between amnesty and a path to citizenship?

Apparently zero Latino votes for mcCain! The illegal invading hordes are going 70+% for Curious Obama the BLACK LIBERATION THEOLOGY MARXIST.

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2008-10-23   12:56:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: James Deffenbach (#7)

I don't care what color anyone is but I do care that the politicians, at least enough of them to get it done, want to see America overrun with people who care nothing about America and who know nothing about America; who never want to be Americans and whose culture is so different that many of them think raping a 12 year old is a marriage proposal. There was one (an illegal) in the county I live in who tried to kidnap a little girl out of her own yard. Fortunately the little girl screamed and her uncle went to the guys house and sorted him out a bit before the cops got there.

Thanks for posting this thread btw.

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2008-10-23   12:57:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: Rotara (#36) (Edited)

New Mexico is a swing state, with reliable polls too close to call. Mad Mac and Caribou Barbie know that conservative voters have "nowhere else to go," so they have nothing to lose and everything to gain by pandering to the Mexican vote in NM.

McCain winning the Mexican vote isn't so far-fetched. He has a good track record of favoring open borders (which he toned down to win conservative votes in the primaries - now he doesn't have to because they'll be voting "the lesser evil"), and many Mexicans detest blacks more than they dislike white gringos.

Rupert_Pupkin  posted on  2008-10-23   12:58:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: Jethro Tull (#31)

We all fall for their traps from time to time. The power of the MSM to package and sell "hope" in the form of the very people (politicians) who have brought us to this point in history can't be underestimated.

Right on Jethro. Looks like nearly 100% have fallen for their traps again. Fifty percent demonwit and 50% pubbiecraps. No doubt about it, we are a nation of voting idiots.

LACUMO  posted on  2008-10-23   13:04:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: Rotara (#36)

In a similar vein as Franklin's statement regarding the keeping of a republican form of government ... They can have their half-negroe muslim marxist in the white house, the question being can they keep him there ?

There is no honor in bending one's knee to the banking elites that are robbing the children you claim to love of their future. Soon they'll convince those very same children that you deserve to be eliminated ... and they may be right.

Doug Scheidt 10-21-08

noone222  posted on  2008-10-23   13:08:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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