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Title: Drudge Headline: SHOCK: MCCAIN VOLUNTEER ATTACKED AND MUTILATED IN PITTSBURGH
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Published: Oct 23, 2008
Author: Drudge
Post Date: 2008-10-23 16:14:45 by christine
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Views: 9570
Comments: 659
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#614. To: All (#613)
Let's do a compromise. You don't need to interact with me so try something at your level. This is my suggestion: Start a new thread titled 'The Greater National Priorities' and name yours in your first post. You can then defend or promote them as others choose to participate.
Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'
I think referring to it as "White Culture" misses the point. A culture is a living breathing thing composed of the people who make it. It is technology, art, music, science, mores, and manners. A culture is viable or it is not viable i.e., it either has the potential for survival and enhancing survival for the greatest number or it does not. A superior culture is one which enhances all of these for all people. It could even grow into a civilization. Something that would be a nice change on this insane asylum of a planet. However, would you regard the "Culture of the 'Hood" or of "The Barrio" as a superior culture? As I commented in my first post on this thread "race" is a highly charged subject. However, "culture" taken in it's broadest meaning is not a race specific thing, it can be only because some of a particular human subspecies might formulate their own, but that does approach the broader questions of mutual respect and toleration. Requirements for a true civilization. Certainly the 'Hood, "The Barrio", or the Trailer Park are not emblematic of civilization. Tolerance, and toleration, must be a two way street. Western "culture", or as it has now be redefined - misdefined, has offered the greatest amount of individual liberty to people's of all human groups. Certainly it has had its defects, but in its best moments it has transcended them. Never forget that there were an awful lot of "White" people who fought slavery, and whose descendents took up the battle of "Civil Rights". So, although it has become increasingly polarized because of the pendulum swing from oppression to oppression "White Culture" is still a misnomer. It was that "Western Culture" (with the occasional eastern influence) which raised the world from muck and mire. The ongoing attacks on that culture are intended to divide and disperse those elements of it which run counter to the totalitarianism that the Bankster Class would like to impose upon the rest of humanity. "Black Culture" as distinct from "Western Culture" does not exist. There are sub-cultures within the common culture but the attempt to subdivide and elevate one group or another to a point of supremecy misses the point and is at best myopic and at its worst destructive.
"The difference between an honorable man and a moral man is that an honorable man regrets a discreditable act even when it has worked and he is in no danger of being caught." ~ H. L. Mencken
I keep responding. Try to keep up. You can apologize to me, and we can continue a discussion, but I will not tolerate your insulting tone. If you can't help yourself, then, we can work on those skills too. One of the problems I have found with people having ill manners is that they are so egocentric that it never occurs to them that their "temper tantrums" are not "Holy Writ". At least when I am ill mannered or nasty it is purely by intent. "The difference between an honorable man and a moral man is that an honorable man regrets a discreditable act even when it has worked and he is in no danger of being caught." ~ H. L. Mencken
yes, i did. when someone makes the accusation that i'm stirring up race wars because i allow discussion of race issues and encourage freedom of expression and then follows it up with an inflammatory post about shooting and exterminating black people, i take that very seriously. i take that as a deliberate attempt to intimidate, censor, and silence me. that went far over the line and i'm not going to accept it.
Do You Know What Freedom Really Means? Freedom4um.com
It seems that some people want their free speech guaranteed, in whatever form they desire, however free speech by others is at the mercy of censorship.
I think it's an overreaction on your part. I said myself that I thought your posting of this story and your promotion of it as though it was factual was questionable judgment. "A bit suspicious of circumstances to be making racially motivated accusations." Your story resulted in this: and equally repugnant comments. Your silence condones it. I was attacked myself for questioning the story, yet you made nary a peep (here's a sample)#55: "That report is from the victim and witness, you're has been yanked our of your backside, you slimy WG'er." - JT Then you join up with Hounddawg in wanting my answers to the questions in his ridiculous raving mad post which accuses me of "feeling inferior to blacks?" and having "something to hide" because according to his logic, if I don't hate black people, I hate white people. You ignore the hateful and horrible comments under the guise of free speech, and then you ban wadsoy because you don't like what he said. I noticed you didn't refute wadosy's comments with your free speech. My god christine. I hope this is a decision of your own making, otherwise the bad advice you're taking doesn't bode well for the integrity of your mission statement.
I'd call it an advanced civilisation. However, would you regard the "Culture of the 'Hood" or of "The Barrio" as a superior culture? No.
OMG.........are you saying that even alan keyes has turned against whitey?
You are completely incapable to name three 'greater national priorities' or even one but you believe that you should bash others for not focusing on 'them'. Then, you make some lame attempts at insulting rational people willing to be educated. For the Record, spin baby spin.
I forgot about him. Years ago I supported him until he strayed off the reservation.
Seconded. When I've time later, I'll gladly expound on this. He as a new poster, and posted his view as an argument against racist verbiage. He should of gotten a rebuttal, not a head butting to the exit. With all due respect, teach and discuss limits you feel have been breached first. Then if they do not work out the problem and turn into a BeaChooser grade fuckwit, then ban them. I also question a perma ban near the emotionally charged time of an election. I suggest that if you feel this warranted an exit from forum, then go ahead and stick by that decision, but make it a time out, not a permaban.
No doubt you supported him out of your 'White Guilt,' yes? <./needle>
I think you're correct.
I did as well, Cyni.
Boy, have you got his shorts at twisted up in his hiney! LOLOL. Go Olivia Go.
That's the truth. Seems King Tut fancy's himself the 'decider'. Not only that, he's the official 'Record Keeper', which must be very time consuming. I commend him for his spirit of volunteerism. At least when I am ill mannered or nasty it is purely by intent. This is good to know. =} "A gentleman is one who is never unintentionally rude." ~ Oscar Wilde What a perfect quote.
He tips over easy. ;) LOL!
rest assured that it was. the mistake i made was not making the reason clear at the time. again, i feel that wadosy went far over the line with his incendiary comments regarding killing and exterminating blacks. i stand by my decision.
Do You Know What Freedom Really Means? Freedom4um.com
Mike... As a "racist", today I hired a nice young man that just turned 16. Mother white, Father black. He is a straight A student, willing to work. He will even do housework. I pay ten an hour, he is happy, his parents and grandparents have been friends for years. I will take any person on his own, I will take no race as an entity. The kid I let go is a whitey. Pure racism Mike.
If you take it out of context. I notice you didn't comment as to the drawing.
I never said you were a racist. I merely point out where you are myopic.
1 - Kick out anything that W or W-related from the State machinery. 2 - Forget about free-trades and globalism. 3 - Get the hell out of 'the world', militarily speaking. 4 - Focus on establishing permanent colonies on the Moon, Mars and toward interstellar expeditions. 5 - Give Bush and his co-conspirators a fair trial on counts of mostly treason. angle's national priorities: I'd substitute #4 with improving the infrastructure in our country. Oh my, are you so blind that you cannot see your single minded hatred for W? Do you honestly believe that it was only evil W and his co-conspirators [ and from your POV these c-conspirators are all GOP no doubt ] who caused our nation to engage in deadly and costly foreign wars and foreign occupations? Do you think it was only W and the GOP who raised domestic spending to heights never seen before even in the most liberal administrations like FDR's? Do you believe it was W who foisted anti-civil rights government departments like Fatherland Security on Americans? Do you see only W pushing through by imperial fiat the ghastly Military Commissions Act that protects government officials from prosecution as of Sept. 12, 2001 onwards and allows the President and the Defense Secty to pluck civilians off the street on their whim? You honestly believe that once W and his GOP conspirators are vanquished and put on trial ( dream on), the Good Ship Lollipop America will be set on course again with Captain Obama at the helm and aided by his crew of Nancy and Harry and Rahm and Janie "Violent Radicalization and Homegrown Terrorism Prevention Act" Harman and Chuckie "the banks need a bailout asap" CheeseCake? You two are quite the pair.
I already stated that America has lost the opportunity of becoming a nation and I can't see how it will ever be one. As for the future of the American state, it's not bright either. A Soviet Union-style breakup is likely within the next 50 years. To answer your other questions: yes, it was mostly W and his handlers who are behind those evil things. Did many others collaborate and played along? You betcha. Many politicians have been scared and cowed into going along with the main perpetrators and they are guilty of cowardice but, do NOT try to leave the impression that 'everybody did it' and, therefore, it does not matter. The script, this time, was written by Dick Cheney, the Neocons, Israeli agents of influence, not by Teddy Kennedy.
Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'
The script was written by the neoconlibs. W, cheney are controlled by neos as much as are nancy, harry, and the rest. Fyi, in November there will be a change of seats on the Titanic but at the helm will be the neos. I think you need to read The Israel Lobby and the blog by philip weiss [ he names names of neolibs in Obama's campaign] to get a better understanding of our national priorities. If it were me the first 3 national priorities would be: 1. forbid all US citizens, holding dual citizenship, from holding elected office or policy level positions within federal and state government 2. force AIPAC to register as a foreign agent 3. hold a national referendum re: term limits for federal elected officials. After those 3 priorities were put in place, all other necessary changes would follow because elected officials would be reminded whom they serve and that they serve at the little people's behest..
What are you doing, going Palin on us? What suggests that these collaborators won't be there directing Obingo?
hate is hate, and no matter what color the hater is, it's destuctive. and that's just how it is. I notice you use the word "destructive" when Black racism comes into the discussion. It was "racism" when we were discussing whites. I think I see your true colors pal..pun intended.. You're one of those hypocritical daily Kook libs or a black racist yourself.
Law Enforcement Against Prohibition "Corporation: An entity created for the legal protection of its human parasites, whose sole purpose is profit and self-perpetuation." © IndieTx I don't know. What suggests that the Martians won't be there directing Obingo? Obama is less likely to purposely harm the US Americans because, after all, you can't have a strong State if your subjects get too sick, too demoralized or too stupid. What is apparent from observing these 2 is that Obama is not senile or insane. He also appears to be a decent person. McCain, of course, is indecent, insane and senile so... it's easy to pick Obama over McCain.
Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'
And you did fine......that person was trying to instigate a reason for having feeble gubmint step in.
Such political insight. Your children will thrive under Obongo's guiding hand.
And further to your fine commentary, scrapper...they wouldn't see that the gop majority congress from '94 onward to their demise in the early 2000s were bragging about even spending more than their apparently beloved perverted president was asking for! But, hey....who lets facts get in the way....I need to order a new pair of 'rose colored' ones, I reckon.
You got it, dee! wadosy was a purposeful fomenter.
I don't see that drawing as equivalent to wadosy's postings to me. As I said before, his accusing me of contributing to and/or fomenting race wars in this country because of the allowance of the discussion here struck me as an intimidation tactic, one intended to silence and censor me and others. As the thread progressed, he stopped debating the issue and, instead, began attacking my motives and hurling ad hominem accusations. Then these two comments from him (1)"...short of going out and shooting a bunch of black people" " (2)seeing as how we're gonna have to exterminate colored people to make room for whites, i guess you're performing a public service, here," I determined were purposefully inflammatory. No one else wrote or suggested anything of the sort. Those words and ideas came from him alone. I believe this was an attempt to attribute those ideas, by insinuation, to me and/or others. Those comments caused me to conclude that wadosy's intent was to incite, intimidate, and to disrupt the debate, therefore, my decision to retire his account.
Do You Know What Freedom Really Means? Freedom4um.com
Drop the "0" from that prediction and you'll probably be closer to accurate. In fact, the U.S. government in its present form probably only lasts until next summer. What happens after the debt default is not very predictable, except for the oppression part of it.
“I would give no thought of what the world might say of me, if I could only transmit to posterity the reputation of an honest man.” - Sam Houston
Myopic??????? How dare you deride my religion?????
I didn't pay much attention to this thread until the matter had been somewhat settled, so this response isn't directed at the content of this particular topic. But, wadosy was a trouble maker looking for an argument with every response and never added anything to the conversation.
There is no honor in bending one's knee to the banking elites that are robbing the children you claim to love of their future. Soon they'll convince those very same children that you deserve to be eliminated ... and they may be right.
This was Brother Wadosy near the beginning, giving 4um members a preview of what was to come. "#78. To: Turtle (#76) none of it makes sense. that's why you should wait before you start spewing hatred all over this motherfucking forum. wadosy posted on 2008-10-23 17:56:55 ET Reply Trace Private Reply Such a fine upstanding gentleman?????
Its been eight long years since the boys said wassup to each other. Even with the effects of a down economy and imminent change in the White House, the boys are still able to come together and stay true to what really matters. Heh, sometimes it's mine too,(Just don't tell anyone now, you here?) Here is my favorite commercial of the season.
"#78. To: Turtle (#76) none of it makes sense. that's why you should wait before you start spewing hatred all over this motherfucking forum. wadosy posted on 2008-10-23 17:56:55 ET Reply Trace Private Reply Such a fine upstanding gentleman????? This was my last post to the idiot ! #5. To: wadosy (#4) I've determined you're too stupid for me to waste time communicating with ... try Richard, he's more inclined to jack with the mentally challenged than I am. There is no honor in bending one's knee to the banking elites that are robbing the children you claim to love of their future. Soon they'll convince those very same children that you deserve to be eliminated ... and they may be right. noone222 posted on 2008-10-22 5:21:20 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
There is no honor in bending one's knee to the banking elites that are robbing the children you claim to love of their future. Soon they'll convince those very same children that you deserve to be eliminated ... and they may be right.
Because she's a McCain supporter?
How dare you deride my religion????? Ahh... you're a member of the Myopic Denial Mongers? Yes, I do believe that is, in fact, the single biggest religion on the face of the planet nowadays. How are the weekly sermons? Entertaining? Informative? Do you have things like socials and picnics on holidays?
#615. To: angle, christine, duckhunter, TwentyTwelve, Wudidiz, Cynicom, Jethro Tull, all (#578)
I wouldn't be sure. Please first describe "white culture". Then perhaps we can discuss the same idea.
#616. To: OliviaFNewton (#612)
My dear, you will never 'start' because you have no idea what you are talking about but you keep 'talking'.
"A gentleman is one who is never unintentionally rude." ~ Oscar Wilde
#617. To: angle (#598)
(Edited)
#618. To: christine (#617)
i take that as a deliberate attempt to intimidate, censor, and silence me.
#619. To: christine (#617)
when someone makes the accusation that i'm stirring up race wars
#620. To: Original_Intent (#615)
A superior culture is one which enhances all of these for all people. It could even grow into a civilization. Something that would be a nice change on this insane asylum of a planet.
#621. To: Cynicom (#572)
It would seem to a rational person that at least one black somewhere would have black guilt and support McKooK. This, however, is not the case.
#622. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#613)
For the record:
#623. To: rowdee (#621)
OMG.........are you saying that even alan keyes has turned against whitey?
#624. To: angle, christine (#619)
I think it's an overreaction on your part.
"You only have power over people so long as you don't take everything away from them. But when you've robbed a man of everything he's no longer in your power -- he's free again. Alexander Solzhenitsyn
#625. To: Cynicom (#623)
"I forgot about him. Years ago I supported him until he strayed off the reservation."
"You only have power over people so long as you don't take everything away from them. But when you've robbed a man of everything he's no longer in your power -- he's free again. Alexander Solzhenitsyn
#626. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#607)
#627. To: Cynicom (#623)
#628. To: OliviaFNewton (#622)
#629. To: Original_Intent (#616)
One of the problems I have found with people having ill manners is that they are so egocentric that it never occurs to them that their "temper tantrums" are not "Holy Writ".
#630. To: rowdee (#628)
Boy, have you got his shorts at twisted up in his hiney! LOLOL. Go Olivia Go.
#631. To: angle, Ferret Mike (#619)
I hope this is a decision of your own making
#632. To: Ferret Mike (#625)
#633. To: christine (#631)
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wadosy went far over the line with his incendiary comments regarding killing and exterminating blacks
#634. To: Cynicom (#632)
"You only have power over people so long as you don't take everything away from them. But when you've robbed a man of everything he's no longer in your power -- he's free again. Alexander Solzhenitsyn
#635. To: angle, a vast rightwing conspirator (#595)
vast's national priorities: a vast rightwing conspirator
#636. To: scrapper2 (#635)
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#637. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#636)
Many politicians have been scared and cowed into going along with the main perpetrators and they are guilty of cowardice but, do NOT try to leave the impression that 'everybody did it' and, therefore, it does not matter. The script, this time, was written by Dick Cheney, the Neocons, Israeli agents of influence, not by Teddy Kennedy.
#638. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#636)
Did many others collaborate and played along? You betcha.
#639. To: wadosy, jethro tull, christine (#135)
there are blacks who are just as irrational and racist as any klansman. did i say there were not?
"There is no 'legitimate' Corporation by virtue of its very legal definition and purpose."
-- IndieTx
#640. To: Jethro Tull (#638)
#641. To: christine (#631)
rest assured that it was. the mistake i made was not making the reason clear at the time. again, i feel that wadosy went far over the line with his incendiary comments regarding killing and exterminating blacks. i stand by my decision
#642. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#640)
What suggests that the Martians won't be there directing Obingo?
#643. To: scrapper2 (#635)
#644. To: rowdee, christine (#641)
And you did fine......that person was trying to instigate a reason for having feeble gubmint step in.
#645. To: angle (#633)
I notice you didn't comment as to the drawing
#646. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#636)
A Soviet Union-style breakup is likely within the next 50 years.
#647. To: Ferret Mike (#634)
I never said you were a racist. I merely point out where you are myopic.
#648. To: angle (#619)
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#649. To: noone222 (#648)
#650. To: all, Cynicom, angle (#647)
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"You only have power over people so long as you don't take everything away from them. But when you've robbed a man of everything he's no longer in your power -- he's free again. Alexander Solzhenitsyn
#651. To: Cynicom (#649)
This was Brother Wadosy near the beginning, giving 4um members a preview of what was to come.
#652. To: christine, Original_Intent, all (#0)
....somebody charged with making a false report would typically be cited and sent a summons. But because police have concerns about Todd's mental health, they are consulting with the Allegheny County District Attorney...
"It is like a trance. So what can break a trance? The only thing that can break the trance is the light of truth."
~ Canadian Philosopher John McMurtry as he comments on the psychological warfare that has afflicted us all
#653. To: Cynicom (#647)
Myopic???????
 | Gold and silver are REAL money, paper is but a promise. |
#654. To: Elliott Jackalope (#653)
Well, I was tryin to get olde Mike to smile for a change. We have jousted for about ten years on the internet, agree on very few things but that does not mean we cannot be friends. You give me an idea, maybe I will start a Myopic church, I will be the Pastor. Mike likes to use big words on me, trying to confuse me, cause he knows I only went to 8th grade.
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