So basically the kids story doesn't fit your racial template, so you blow it off. Same with raw crime statistics, they don't fit your racial profile, so you disregard them. Very, very open minded of you.....
I'm glad you're on the other side of the fight, Mr. Angle.
our heroic white culture has been so good at demonstrating their belief in the golden rule, especially in places like vietnam, afghanistan and iraq.
You falsely associate the actions of an out of control criminal government with the culture. The two are not an identity - something which you likely know and hence your argument is knowingly false.
"The difference between an honorable man and a moral man is that an honorable man regrets a discreditable act even when it has worked and he is in no danger of being caught." ~ H. L. Mencken
We need to do one study on the effects of forced bussing on whites for instance.
Bussing (to achieve artificial racial balances) has devastated public education in America and blacks are still underachieving losers, and here you are asking for more breast beating sorrow about the conditions under which poor downtrodden blacks labor?
And, BTW, it's only American born blacks who "suffer" these crushing effects of "racism". Caribbean blacks have incomes roughly equal to whites while American blacks just can't seem to find that ladder of opportunity.
It seems that too many blacks have embraced the status of social cripples and intended to milk it for all its worth.
And you seem all too happy to assist in that white guilt campaign.
"Defensive racism" is defined as "the desire to secure a future for our children" and in our own country the mere utterance of that phrase is some kind of "crime" to those who absolutely demand that whites be held down and carefully watched.
Well, fuck them.
we ain't cringing at the charge of "racist" anymore.
I'm not going to apologize for being white or having white children, and, if they mean to have a war then let it begin here.
In the mean time why don't you do a little research and try to find a black/colored abolitionist movement anywhere in the world before whites started it.
And then explain why slavery still exists in dark countries just as it did when slaves were brought here.
And, why aren't you shaming some darkies for that obscene state of affairs?
Why do you seem to prefer browbeating the hard working whites who have elevated (with our tax dollars) American blacks to the healthiest, best educated and wealthiest in the world?
JT is the red queen, able to believe six impossible things before breakfast...
It was the "Queen of Hearts" and it was "EIGHT impossible things" before breakfast.
"The difference between an honorable man and a moral man is that an honorable man regrets a discreditable act even when it has worked and he is in no danger of being caught." ~ H. L. Mencken
Why do you seem to prefer browbeating the hard working whites who have elevated (with our tax dollars) American blacks to the healthiest, best educated and wealthiest in the world?
i spose somebody could make the argument, now that our glorious white civilization is threatened by oil shortages and climate change, that the so- called primitive people were right all along.
i spose the argument could be made that the most rapacious and aggressive of us were driven, by our neighbors, out of africa so long ago that we no longer have the need for dark skin.
i spose the argument can be made that, thanks to the white man's cleverness, billions of people will have to die before the human population approaches sustainable levels.
but i spose we can kill off the colored people of the world to make room for ourselves.
Bingo! These spineless white wimps have enabled the culture of poverty by making excuses for crime, laziness and drug addiction. I bet Angle has never been forced out of his neighborhood because it 'changed' and whites became unsafe. He, and his band of useful idiots, should go on a road trip to West Philly, Bushwick Brooklyn and finish up in Mayor Ray Nagin Chocolate City. Maybe they can stretch their legs and get to meet the locals and report back to us on the needs and wants of the under class. I won't hold my breath. The gutless ones like the safety of their white enclaves, where they can preach ethics to we, the uninformed.
would you like to explain the popularity of video games based on killing things wholesale?
They were seeded into the culture. Most of the "kill, kill, kill" games were originally developed by the military because it is unnatural for most people to kill another human. The military set out to solve the problem of soldiers who would not "kill the enemy". My father was a Marine in WWII and saw some of the worst fighting and killing and I guarantee you the internal scars were much worse than the ones that earned him 3 Purple Hearts.
The computer games were developed and released into the culture to make American youth more willing to kill as cannon fodder.
Madison Avenue is only the visible influence - the same techniques and tactics are at play in conducting social control, perception management, and enslavement of all us "useless eaters".
"The difference between an honorable man and a moral man is that an honorable man regrets a discreditable act even when it has worked and he is in no danger of being caught." ~ H. L. Mencken
They were seeded into the culture. Most of the "kill, kill, kill" games were originally developed by the military because it is unnatural for most people to kill another human.
so you're agreeing that american culture is violent.
"Defensive racism" is defined as "the desire to secure a future for our children" and in our own country the mere utterance of that phrase is some kind of "crime" to those who absolutely demand that whites be held down and carefully watched.
Well, fuck them.
we ain't cringing at the charge of "racist" anymore.
I'm not going to apologize for being white or having white children, and, if they mean to have a war then let it begin here.
In the mean time why don't you do a little research and try to find a black/colored abolitionist movement anywhere in the world before whites started it.
And then explain why slavery still exists in dark countries just as it did when slaves were brought here.
And, why aren't you shaming some darkies for that obscene state of affairs?
Why do you seem to prefer browbeating the hard working whites who have elevated (with our tax dollars) American blacks to the healthiest, best educated and wealthiest in the world?
that is a heck of a display of lesser intelligence and consciousness, dawg! well done.
so you're agreeing that american culture is violent.
How incredibly tiresome - you insist on trying to put words in other people's mouths.
Human Culture is, and has been violent, through the centuries of human history and it is not limited to "American Culture" or "White Culture" or "Black Culture" etc., ...
The common element is irrationality. War is not rational and is generally inspired by a small percentage of the population.
You are engaging in false logic, and you bear all the hallmarks of a professional disinformationist/disruptor.
"The difference between an honorable man and a moral man is that an honorable man regrets a discreditable act even when it has worked and he is in no danger of being caught." ~ H. L. Mencken
You falsely associate the actions of an out of control criminal government with the culture. The two are not an identity - something which you likely know and hence your argument is knowingly false.
The computer games were developed and released into the culture to make American youth more willing to kill as cannon fodder.
seeing as how we're gonna have to exterminate colored people to make room for whites
What's this "we" shit?? Again, go back to your FBI handlers and tell them you need remedial training in infiltration.
The best and first guarantor of our neutrality and our independent existence is the defensive will of the people and the proverbial marksmanship of the Swiss shooter. Each soldier a good marksman! Each shot a hit! -Schweizerische Schuetzenzeitung (Swiss Shooting Federation) April, 1941
that is a heck of a display of lesser intelligence and consciousness, dawg! well done.
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The best and first guarantor of our neutrality and our independent existence is the defensive will of the people and the proverbial marksmanship of the Swiss shooter. Each soldier a good marksman! Each shot a hit! -Schweizerische Schuetzenzeitung (Swiss Shooting Federation) April, 1941
who said anything about shooting blacks or exterminating blacks?
i did.
the atmosphere you seem to encourage in this forum lends itself to stirring up race hate that can be exploited, turned into vigilante action that will justify a declaration of martial law.
all of this has to happen pretty soon, i'd say within a couple generations, maybe much sooner, or the govt will no longer be in control.
at which point we'll see ethnic cleansing in america like we've seen in iraq.
tom, i was being facetious. angle made the assertion that the majority of those contributing to this thread are of lesser intelligence and consciousness. i thought DAWG's post was discerning.
all of this has to happen pretty soon, i'd say within a couple generations, maybe much sooner, or I'll be retired from the FBI.
Fixed.
The best and first guarantor of our neutrality and our independent existence is the defensive will of the people and the proverbial marksmanship of the Swiss shooter. Each soldier a good marksman! Each shot a hit! -Schweizerische Schuetzenzeitung (Swiss Shooting Federation) April, 1941
There's your problem. Statistics do say something and the educated attempt to interpret their correct meaning. Hence my question. If you don't know the answer, it's okay.
Here's your problem, angle. You can't accept facts being facts, reality being reality when those facts and their reality challenge your world of left wing pseudo-intelligentsia who pretend they are breathing rarefied air because they alone are so special and so insightful.
The answer to your question is NO, NOOOO, NOOOOOOO - got it? - class has nothing to do with the stats Jethro presented or otherwise low class whites would also have similar high crime rates. You do know that there are poor whites don't you??... well, perhaps not, there are not too many poor whites hanging out at coffee houses and poetry readings where super duper intellectual leftie whites hang out.
You'd need to visit places like Oklahoma, Kentucky, South Dakota, Missippi, Idaho and the front lines of the Iraq and Afghanistan wars to bump into poor whites.
And furthermore, fyi, Dr. Walter Williams PhD, who certainly meets your criterion of being smart ( and he's black to boot), happens to agree with Jethro's stats being reflective of race not class.
looks to me like a lot of you cowboys just cant wait for the race wars to start in america.
What an ignorant mean-spirited hateful comment to make. Just because posters disagree with your pro-Obama, pro-leftie views, you resort to mud-slinging? Grow up.
looks to me like a lot of you cowboys just cant wait for the race wars to start in america.
You remember this movie? You know, the one where one intelligent Western white man fucked up the Planet of the Apes?? Hahahahahahaha!!!!!
The best and first guarantor of our neutrality and our independent existence is the defensive will of the people and the proverbial marksmanship of the Swiss shooter. Each soldier a good marksman! Each shot a hit! -Schweizerische Schuetzenzeitung (Swiss Shooting Federation) April, 1941
If somebody didn't throw you some red meat your FBI handlers might fire you for wasting their money. I'm giving you job security....
The best and first guarantor of our neutrality and our independent existence is the defensive will of the people and the proverbial marksmanship of the Swiss shooter. Each soldier a good marksman! Each shot a hit! -Schweizerische Schuetzenzeitung (Swiss Shooting Federation) April, 1941
is the dominant attitude about race in this forum gonna help damp down tendencies towards race wars, or encourage those tendencies?
any observer would come away with the impression that you are trying to encourage race wars.
that's just how it is.
if you dont want race wars, anybody'd think you'd have sense enough to work against overt racism, instead of egging each other on.
sorry
What are you on? You are seeing a reality I don't recognize.
For one thing, in case you were not aware of this fact, 4um is a free speech site, not a politically correct high school debate league.
For another thing, this is a long thread and I've not read every single post but one post by Jethro Tull that quoted statistics about black crime - statistics which were verified by a black professor, Dr. Walter Williams - seemed to attract the ire of you and angle. Statistics are not hate speech.
If statistics or free speech trouble your sensibilities, then move on. Don't use a broad brush to paint posters with baseless insults.
the atmosphere you seem to encourage in this forum
the atmosphere i encourage in this forum is freedom of expression. if you can't handle it and you are advocating censorship, then Freedom4um is not the forum for you.
now all we have to do is figure out why you are unable to acknowledge the illogic
Watch it Dak, baby........I think this wadi gal must be pregnant--notice the 'we'............yep.........and I'll bet a dollar to a donut that she's gonna try to claim you're the daddy!
I'm an equal opportunity hater. I can hate you if you're white, black, brown, red, yellow, if you wear a beanie, or a cross, or a towel around your head.. makes no difference to me...
the atmosphere i encourage in this forum is freedom of expression. if you can't handle it and you are advocating censorship, then Freedom4um is not the forum for you.
you encourage racism on the forum.
there (above) is an example of free speech that you've declined to refute.
you have refused to comment on cynicom's argument that anyone who doesnt hate blacks hates himself.
i have pointed out to you the dangers of overt racism... if you continue to support overt racism, about the only thing an observer can conclude is that you support racism and its inevitable consequences.