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#493. To: christine (#395)

you know what? i've had enough of you. bye.

OMFG! OMFG! OMFFFG! OMFFFFFFFG!

You banned someone? OMFG!!!!!

:)

I shall not vote for evil, lesser or otherwise.
Body Art Cobleskill, NY

Critter  posted on  2008-10-24   21:58:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#494. To: Critter (#493)

yes, i did. ;)

Do You Know What Freedom Really Means? Freedom4um.com

christine  posted on  2008-10-24   22:05:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#495. To: christine (#494) (Edited)

yes, i did. ;)

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He didn't see it coming!

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2008-10-24   22:09:08 ET  (3 images) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#496. To: christine (#395)

He's right you know. Racism is debunked and as worthless as any other criminal behavior. So, this is a free speech forum?

Just not his speech, right? You are way wrong in allowing haters and baiters in, and banning this chap. What was the matter? was he getting uncomfortably close to the truth?

And did you think I would be too gun shy to give you my two cents worth on this? And in telling you you are being hypocritical here?


"You only have power over people so long as you don't take everything away from them. But when you've robbed a man of everything he's no longer in your power -- he's free again. Alexander Solzhenitsyn

Ferret Mike  posted on  2008-10-24   22:13:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#497. To: HOUNDDAWG, christine, Turtle (#495)

Who's next?

I think turtle should be banned.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-10-24   22:13:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#498. To: HOUNDDAWG, angle (#492)

I believe he has his reasons and that he doesn't dare share them with everyone.

I agree.

I'm sorry, angle, I shouldn't have called you a troll, it was just too easy a jab to pass up ;-)

“The best and first guarantor of our neutrality and our independent existence is the defensive will of the people…and the proverbial marksmanship of the Swiss shooter. Each soldier a good marksman! Each shot a hit!”
-Schweizerische Schuetzenzeitung (Swiss Shooting Federation) April, 1941

X-15  posted on  2008-10-24   22:15:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#499. To: Ferret Mike (#496)

Racism is debunked and as worthless as any other criminal behavior

Racism is criminal behaviour, bunky?

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-10-24   22:15:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#500. To: Cynicom (#497)

Nah, banning for tempermental reasons is what Sally does, at least that the only person outside of the Free Republic I am most familiar with as someone that does this. Turtle should not be banned.


"You only have power over people so long as you don't take everything away from them. But when you've robbed a man of everything he's no longer in your power -- he's free again. Alexander Solzhenitsyn

Ferret Mike  posted on  2008-10-24   22:16:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#501. To: Jethro Tull (#499)

"Racism is criminal behaviour, bunky?"

I am 100 percent convinced it is.


"You only have power over people so long as you don't take everything away from them. But when you've robbed a man of everything he's no longer in your power -- he's free again. Alexander Solzhenitsyn

Ferret Mike  posted on  2008-10-24   22:17:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#502. To: Ferret Mike (#501)

I am 100 percent convinced it is.

You're also convinced rocks, trees and weeds are worthy of idolization, which would make you a basic loon.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-10-24   22:20:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#503. To: X-15, angle, christine (#498)

I believe he has his reasons and that he doesn't dare share them with everyone.

I agree.

I'm sorry, angle, I shouldn't have called you a troll, it was just too easy a jab to pass up ;-)

I knew you were just joshing, BTW.

Sawwy about getting serious on you but I really am trying to avoid unnecessary roughness with angle.

We get along pretty well I regarded him as a friendly, and I'm a teenie bit disappointed at the moment.

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2008-10-24   22:21:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#504. To: Ferret Mike, Christine, all (#496)

And in telling you you are being hypocritical here?

Mike...

Free speech does not allow you or anyone else to abuse others, even with free speech of language.

I refer to the vulgar language of this departed person as well as your self. If you re read the thread, all I asked from the departed was to omit his vulgar use of his language here. Without a little personal discipline, this forum would degenerate into the gutter like many others that you and I have populated.

Vulgar language coupled with attack tactics trying to inflame a 4um has no place here nor any forum that considers itself responsible and respectful.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-10-24   22:23:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#505. To: Ferret Mike (#496)

i'll say the same to you as i said to wadosy.

the atmosphere i encourage in this forum is freedom of expression. if you can't handle it and you are advocating censorship, then Freedom4um is not the forum for you.

Do You Know What Freedom Really Means? Freedom4um.com

christine  posted on  2008-10-24   22:25:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#506. To: Ferret Mike, Jethro Tull (#501)

Jethro Tull: "Racism is criminal behaviour, bunky?"

Ferret Mike: I am 100 percent convinced it is.

So, Mike, are you saying you are in favor of criminalizing "thought" crimes?

scrapper2  posted on  2008-10-24   22:25:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#507. To: Jethro Tull (#502) (Edited)

Racism, is the bigotry of lower standards. You can't expect them to understand, and if you try to explain it, you are racist. If a rapper tries to get the message through, he's an Uncle Tom. We just need more education to reinforce victimhood status, and their limits imposed by their advocates. They can not be taught, because they refuse to be taught. And those that make excuses for their victimhood are advocates for their continued ignorance.

Their enemies are their friends. What a scam

OliviaFNewton  posted on  2008-10-24   22:27:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#508. To: OliviaFNewton (#507)

They can not be taught, becuase they refuse to be taught. And those that make excuses for their victimhood are advocates for their continued ignorance

Well said, Olivia. Welcome to the struggle.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-10-24   22:29:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#509. To: Jethro Tull (#508)

Well said, Olivia. Welcome to the struggle.

Thank you Jethro.

There is a time to fish, and a time to cut bait.

Seems the time is coming to cut bait.

OliviaFNewton  posted on  2008-10-24   22:31:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#510. To: Ferret Mike (#496) (Edited)

What was the matter? was he getting uncomfortably close to the truth?

For starters, "this chap" lied - he mis-stated what other posters said.

Secondly, he kept haranguing various posters with the same question even though he had received his answer 50 posts before hand.

Thirdly he was a stereotypical disrupter, provocateur- he could care less about honest debate - he was baiter, something you profess to dislike.

I came in late on the thread but in the course of 50 posts those were the points I noted. Perhaps other posters could add to the list who were on the thread for a longer time.

scrapper2  posted on  2008-10-24   22:31:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#511. To: OliviaFNewton (#509)

Yes, it's time to fish and there's no room for the seaSICK.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-10-24   22:33:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#512. To: Ferret Mike (#501)

To: Jethro Tull

"Racism is criminal behaviour, bunky?"

I am 100 percent convinced it is.

It's a mighty big country. If you were King-For-A-Day and could criminalize "racism", who would you go after first and why?? By "who" I mean would you go by race, politics (leftists/fascists/libertarians/conservatives/anarchists) or ???? Would you make telling offensive jokes a Class C misdemeanor or ???? How would you square this with the First Amendment??

“The best and first guarantor of our neutrality and our independent existence is the defensive will of the people…and the proverbial marksmanship of the Swiss shooter. Each soldier a good marksman! Each shot a hit!”
-Schweizerische Schuetzenzeitung (Swiss Shooting Federation) April, 1941

X-15  posted on  2008-10-24   22:35:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#513. To: Ferret Mike, Jethro Tull (#501)

"Racism is criminal behaviour, bunky?"

I am 100 percent convinced it is.

Taking poetic license with definitions I see.

Is it time for another zinging ricochet into another pointless discussion that will inevitably end with an insult and dismissal once you're cornered by your own flawed premise?

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2008-10-24   22:40:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#514. To: Cynicom, ALL (#504)

Free speech does not allow you or anyone else to abuse others, even with free speech of language.

I refer to the vulgar language of this departed person as well as your self. If you re read the thread, all I asked from the departed was to omit his vulgar use of his language here. Without a little personal discipline, this forum would degenerate into the gutter like many others that you and I have populated.

Vulgar language coupled with attack tactics trying to inflame a 4um has no place here nor any forum that considers itself responsible and respectful.

worth repeating bump.

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2008-10-24   22:42:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#515. To: HOUNDDAWG, Mike Ferret (#513)

Last week Mike began his Obama victory lap. I knew he'd build up to to this; calling racism a crime. Shades of things to come from the Os.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-10-24   22:49:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#516. To: Jethro Tull (#511)

Yes, it's time to fish and there's no room for the seaSICK.

Exactly. Time for the unproductive to walk the plank! Whining and bitching takes away from rowing the boat. Row or have a talk with Davey Jones locker. Argh.

The world is being held hostage by self centered nuts and their evil bastard minders.

I see they are here poking sticks at free minded to keep them properly herded or mute.

OliviaFNewton  posted on  2008-10-24   22:52:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#517. To: scrapper2 (#506)

"So, Mike, are you saying you are in favor of criminalizing "thought" crimes?"

Not at all. Racists have the right to free speech, and they are accountable for their words. What I consider criminal is the manifestation of action done to express or promote racism.

I do not accept racism as normative human behavior. People who believe in racism suffer from a deep cancer of the soul.

I did not see any foul language, and I did not see any ad hominem behavior, so I assume I missed seeing the posts Christine reacted to.

None the less, he is new, and not a proved fuckwit like BeaChooser, so I don't support a banning.

Christine can sure do as she wishes as this is her forum, but that is my opinion. And it sure is not going to change anymore then anything on racism I've read here has done so at all.

I am giving my opinion and I am not going to belabor the issue. But I will say I don't agree with this.


"You only have power over people so long as you don't take everything away from them. But when you've robbed a man of everything he's no longer in your power -- he's free again. Alexander Solzhenitsyn

Ferret Mike  posted on  2008-10-24   22:52:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#518. To: Jethro Tull (#515)

Last week Mike began his Obama victory lap. I knew he'd build up to to this; calling racism a crime. Shades of things to come from the Os.

Actually, there are rumblings from the election watchers and the old boy network may be setting up to steal this one too.

If I was Barack I wouldn't order dinner and drinks for three thousand of my closest friends just yet....

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2008-10-24   22:54:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#519. To: OliviaFNewton (#507)

hi Olivia, welcome!

Do You Know What Freedom Really Means? Freedom4um.com

christine  posted on  2008-10-24   22:58:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#520. To: Jethro Tull (#515)

If the election goes well, it is at best a start. I will be at Lane County Election Central at the fair grounds like I always am, and then I will go home and get to bed and then go to work the next day.

I take this one day at a time, and the day after the election is when I know who it is to target to promote my particular political efficacies. I don't like Obama's pro death penalty stand, and I don't agree with off shore oil drilling and he is going to need to be pressured to do the right thing with environmental issues.

I support Barack Obama because he is going to be easier to badger around to promote the things people like me promote.

I have no rose colored sunglasses on. He will be POTUS, but like anyone else, whether I like him as a man or not, he has to earn his keep and show he can do the job.

Just like anyone else in the position would have to.


"You only have power over people so long as you don't take everything away from them. But when you've robbed a man of everything he's no longer in your power -- he's free again. Alexander Solzhenitsyn

Ferret Mike  posted on  2008-10-24   22:59:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#521. To: HOUNDDAWG (#518)

There are also rumblings about his manchurian status as a boy broken by sexual abuse, that his father is Frank Marshall, that his reasons for being in Hawaii isn't just to tend to his dear grandmother, that he was forced to appear regarding his birth certificate, that all of this is coming out in the week ahead, and that none of that will change the selection.

Rumors rumors and facts. One of which the brainwashed refuse to dare question or explore. Driven by extreme self gratification rather than concern for the greater national concerns.

OliviaFNewton  posted on  2008-10-24   23:00:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#522. To: Ferret Mike (#520)

I have no rose colored sunglasses on. He will be POTUS, but like anyone else, whether I like him as a man or not, he has to earn his keep and show he can do the job.

Just like anyone else in the position would have to.

Sounds like the Mike of yore.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-10-24   23:01:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#523. To: HOUNDDAWG (#518)

"Actually, there are rumblings from the election watchers and the old boy network may be setting up to steal this one too."

You are correct, and I wonder if they won't try to claim the Bradley Effect is what made the thing go south if it does. At DU there have been threads about machine malfunctions in several places.

Though here in Lane County the city and county government are going to spring for the extra postage if people don't put the right amount on the ballots that weigh more then normal and are in a larger envelope then usual.


"You only have power over people so long as you don't take everything away from them. But when you've robbed a man of everything he's no longer in your power -- he's free again. Alexander Solzhenitsyn

Ferret Mike  posted on  2008-10-24   23:02:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#524. To: christine (#519)

hi Olivia, welcome!

Hi Christine, thank you! Nice to be here.

OliviaFNewton  posted on  2008-10-24   23:04:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#525. To: OliviaFNewton (#524)

Newt...

Welcome...I am in charge of nothing here, so if you ever have nothing to say, ping me and I will come up with something.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-10-24   23:07:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#526. To: Ferret Mike (#517)

scrapper: "So, Mike, are you saying you are in favor of criminalizing "thought" crimes?"

Ferret Mike: Not at all. Racists have the right to free speech, and they are accountable for their words. What I consider criminal is the manifestation of action done to express or promote racism.

I do not accept racism as normative human behavior. People who believe in racism suffer from a deep cancer of the soul.

A rather dodgey answer, if I may say so. You say on the one hand that racists [ or people whose opinions that don't jive with yours] have "a right" to free speech but on the other hand they are "accountable" for their words????

What do you mean by this mumbo jumbo about "the manifestation of action done to express or promote racism." ???? Use plain English, please.

I would agree with you if you said that racist attitudes were unseemly or that those attitudes were troubling if expressed by community leaders. But when you use that judgmental tone of your viewing racist as a "deep cancer of the soul", you've lost me. If a bunch of old guys who have had too much to drink at a private poker party crack some jokes about wops or bohunks or hebes, you think those remarks reflect "a deep cancer of the soul" and that these old drunk geezers should be held "accountable" for their racist comments?

Sheesh - you've drunk too much Kossack kool aid, me thinks.

Let me remind you, Mike, that you started a very long thread cussing another political board moderator for her phoney attitude towards free speech... free for some but not for all or not all the time or only when I judge it to be free...

scrapper2  posted on  2008-10-24   23:10:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#527. To: Ferret Mike (#517)

What I consider criminal is the manifestation of action done to express or promote racism.

Now you sound like Prof. Irwin Corey, who was a grade A double talker.

Have I told you I don't trust you?

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-10-24   23:10:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#528. To: Ferret Mike (#520)

I support Barack Obama because he is going to be easier to badger around to promote the things people like me promote.

Well there's the definition of a World Leader if I ever saw one.

I know, let's have someone that can be bent over a fencepost by any random racist poster with a bag of chips and an attitude. That'll definitely be the sort that Putin, Chavez, Mickey Mouse, and E Coli Castro, will respect.

One thing that we must keep in mind. While we may have a gigantic military, it takes money to finance it. As a nation we are trillions in debt, to the degree probably much MUCH more than we even know. Private Armies are now being funded to take up where the US military can perhaps not go. Who is it that commands those forces, and where are their loyalties when the well goes dry?

Will there be any confidence in a complete mercenary government and military? And with what you know and pretend you don't, who will your President serve?

How funny it is that accountability is not important, as long as the tanned one takes office.

How long do you thing the charade lasts, before it is clear, the MIC is financed without loyalty to any country, people, border or law.

Pirates of the Planet, without a conscience.

Think about what you want for a future.

OliviaFNewton  posted on  2008-10-24   23:15:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#529. To: Cynicom (#525)

:laughing:

Okay then, perhaps you might look at 528.

OliviaFNewton  posted on  2008-10-24   23:16:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#530. To: Jethro Tull (#527)

Actually, I am being very clear here. If someone wishes to expound on why they irrationally feel hating others, or feeling inappropriately that they are superior to them, they have a right to thrash about trying to prove that which is impossible to prove as it is flat an insane belief system.

However, if they verbally harass someone and use their racism to steal someone's sense of well being and worth, and to denigrate their social standing, that person should be charged with a serious crime.

I have always felt this, and I have always strongly and passionately felt this way. And I also don't give a damn if you trust me or not. I know where I stand on this issue. And I know I am right.


"You only have power over people so long as you don't take everything away from them. But when you've robbed a man of everything he's no longer in your power -- he's free again. Alexander Solzhenitsyn

Ferret Mike  posted on  2008-10-24   23:20:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#531. To: Ferret Mike (#530)

Actually this is very clear, you left wing speech Nazi.

JT: "Racism is criminal behaviour, bunky?"

FM: I am 100 percent convinced it is.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-10-24   23:24:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#532. To: OliviaFNewton (#528)

"Will there be any confidence in a complete mercenary government and military? And with what you know and pretend you don't, who will your President serve?

How funny it is that accountability is not important, as long as the tanned one takes office."

Accountability is very important. However, I do not agree with what is generally known to many as the Jewish banker conspiracy. I am not fond of Zionism, and I want us to cut off Israel and show them who is boss, but I am not anti-Semitic.

Jews do not conspire to own everything and to control our lives. You have a right to your view, but I do not share it.


"You only have power over people so long as you don't take everything away from them. But when you've robbed a man of everything he's no longer in your power -- he's free again. Alexander Solzhenitsyn

Ferret Mike  posted on  2008-10-24   23:26:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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