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#620. To: Original_Intent (#615)

A superior culture is one which enhances all of these for all people. It could even grow into a civilization. Something that would be a nice change on this insane asylum of a planet.

I'd call it an advanced civilisation.

However, would you regard the "Culture of the 'Hood" or of "The Barrio" as a superior culture?

No.

angle  posted on  2008-10-25   12:19:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#621. To: Cynicom (#572)

It would seem to a rational person that at least one black somewhere would have black guilt and support McKooK. This, however, is not the case.

OMG.........are you saying that even alan keyes has turned against whitey?

rowdee  posted on  2008-10-25   12:22:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#622. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#613)

For the record:

You are completely incapable to name three 'greater national priorities' or even one but you believe that you should bash others for not focusing on 'them'.

Then, you make some lame attempts at insulting rational people willing to be educated.

For the Record, spin baby spin.

OliviaFNewton  posted on  2008-10-25   12:23:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#623. To: rowdee (#621)

OMG.........are you saying that even alan keyes has turned against whitey?

I forgot about him. Years ago I supported him until he strayed off the reservation.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-10-25   12:37:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#624. To: angle, christine (#619)

I think it's an overreaction on your part.

Seconded. When I've time later, I'll gladly expound on this.

He as a new poster, and posted his view as an argument against racist verbiage. He should of gotten a rebuttal, not a head butting to the exit.

With all due respect, teach and discuss limits you feel have been breached first. Then if they do not work out the problem and turn into a BeaChooser grade fuckwit, then ban them.

I also question a perma ban near the emotionally charged time of an election. I suggest that if you feel this warranted an exit from forum, then go ahead and stick by that decision, but make it a time out, not a permaban.


"You only have power over people so long as you don't take everything away from them. But when you've robbed a man of everything he's no longer in your power -- he's free again. Alexander Solzhenitsyn

Ferret Mike  posted on  2008-10-25   12:37:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#625. To: Cynicom (#623)

"I forgot about him. Years ago I supported him until he strayed off the reservation."

No doubt you supported him out of your 'White Guilt,' yes? <./needle>


"You only have power over people so long as you don't take everything away from them. But when you've robbed a man of everything he's no longer in your power -- he's free again. Alexander Solzhenitsyn

Ferret Mike  posted on  2008-10-25   12:39:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#626. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#607)

I think you're correct.

angle  posted on  2008-10-25   12:39:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#627. To: Cynicom (#623)

I did as well, Cyni.

rowdee  posted on  2008-10-25   12:42:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#628. To: OliviaFNewton (#622)

Boy, have you got his shorts at twisted up in his hiney! LOLOL. Go Olivia Go.

rowdee  posted on  2008-10-25   12:43:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#629. To: Original_Intent (#616)

One of the problems I have found with people having ill manners is that they are so egocentric that it never occurs to them that their "temper tantrums" are not "Holy Writ".

That's the truth. Seems King Tut fancy's himself the 'decider'.

Not only that, he's the official 'Record Keeper', which must be very time consuming. I commend him for his spirit of volunteerism.

At least when I am ill mannered or nasty it is purely by intent.

This is good to know. =}

"A gentleman is one who is never unintentionally rude." ~ Oscar Wilde

What a perfect quote.

OliviaFNewton  posted on  2008-10-25   12:44:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#630. To: rowdee (#628)

Boy, have you got his shorts at twisted up in his hiney! LOLOL. Go Olivia Go.

He tips over easy. ;) LOL!

OliviaFNewton  posted on  2008-10-25   12:46:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#631. To: angle, Ferret Mike (#619)

I hope this is a decision of your own making

rest assured that it was. the mistake i made was not making the reason clear at the time. again, i feel that wadosy went far over the line with his incendiary comments regarding killing and exterminating blacks. i stand by my decision.

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christine  posted on  2008-10-25   12:56:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#632. To: Ferret Mike (#625)

Mike...

As a "racist", today I hired a nice young man that just turned 16. Mother white, Father black. He is a straight A student, willing to work. He will even do housework. I pay ten an hour, he is happy, his parents and grandparents have been friends for years.

I will take any person on his own, I will take no race as an entity. The kid I let go is a whitey. Pure racism Mike.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-10-25   13:08:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#633. To: christine (#631) (Edited)

wadosy went far over the line with his incendiary comments regarding killing and exterminating blacks

If you take it out of context. I notice you didn't comment as to the drawing.

angle  posted on  2008-10-25   13:48:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#634. To: Cynicom (#632)

I never said you were a racist. I merely point out where you are myopic.


"You only have power over people so long as you don't take everything away from them. But when you've robbed a man of everything he's no longer in your power -- he's free again. Alexander Solzhenitsyn

Ferret Mike  posted on  2008-10-25   14:45:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#635. To: angle, a vast rightwing conspirator (#595)

vast's national priorities: a vast rightwing conspirator

1 - Kick out anything that W or W-related from the State machinery. 2 - Forget about free-trades and globalism. 3 - Get the hell out of 'the world', militarily speaking. 4 - Focus on establishing permanent colonies on the Moon, Mars and toward interstellar expeditions. 5 - Give Bush and his co-conspirators a fair trial on counts of mostly treason.

angle's national priorities: I'd substitute #4 with improving the infrastructure in our country.

Oh my, are you so blind that you cannot see your single minded hatred for W? Do you honestly believe that it was only evil W and his co-conspirators [ and from your POV these c-conspirators are all GOP no doubt ] who caused our nation to engage in deadly and costly foreign wars and foreign occupations? Do you think it was only W and the GOP who raised domestic spending to heights never seen before even in the most liberal administrations like FDR's? Do you believe it was W who foisted anti-civil rights government departments like Fatherland Security on Americans? Do you see only W pushing through by imperial fiat the ghastly Military Commissions Act that protects government officials from prosecution as of Sept. 12, 2001 onwards and allows the President and the Defense Secty to pluck civilians off the street on their whim?

You honestly believe that once W and his GOP conspirators are vanquished and put on trial ( dream on), the Good Ship Lollipop America will be set on course again with Captain Obama at the helm and aided by his crew of Nancy and Harry and Rahm and Janie "Violent Radicalization and Homegrown Terrorism Prevention Act" Harman and Chuckie "the banks need a bailout asap" CheeseCake?

You two are quite the pair.

scrapper2  posted on  2008-10-25   14:48:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#636. To: scrapper2 (#635) (Edited)

I already stated that America has lost the opportunity of becoming a nation and I can't see how it will ever be one. As for the future of the American state, it's not bright either. A Soviet Union-style breakup is likely within the next 50 years.

To answer your other questions: yes, it was mostly W and his handlers who are behind those evil things. Did many others collaborate and played along? You betcha. Many politicians have been scared and cowed into going along with the main perpetrators and they are guilty of cowardice but, do NOT try to leave the impression that 'everybody did it' and, therefore, it does not matter. The script, this time, was written by Dick Cheney, the Neocons, Israeli agents of influence, not by Teddy Kennedy.

Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'

a vast rightwing conspirator  posted on  2008-10-25   14:58:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#637. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#636)

Many politicians have been scared and cowed into going along with the main perpetrators and they are guilty of cowardice but, do NOT try to leave the impression that 'everybody did it' and, therefore, it does not matter. The script, this time, was written by Dick Cheney, the Neocons, Israeli agents of influence, not by Teddy Kennedy.

The script was written by the neoconlibs. W, cheney are controlled by neos as much as are nancy, harry, and the rest. Fyi, in November there will be a change of seats on the Titanic but at the helm will be the neos. I think you need to read The Israel Lobby and the blog by philip weiss [ he names names of neolibs in Obama's campaign] to get a better understanding of our national priorities.

If it were me the first 3 national priorities would be:

1. forbid all US citizens, holding dual citizenship, from holding elected office or policy level positions within federal and state government

2. force AIPAC to register as a foreign agent

3. hold a national referendum re: term limits for federal elected officials.

After those 3 priorities were put in place, all other necessary changes would follow because elected officials would be reminded whom they serve and that they serve at the little people's behest..

scrapper2  posted on  2008-10-25   15:16:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#638. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#636)

Did many others collaborate and played along? You betcha.

What are you doing, going Palin on us?

What suggests that these collaborators won't be there directing Obingo?

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-10-25   15:19:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#639. To: wadosy, jethro tull, christine (#135)

there are blacks who are just as irrational and racist as any klansman. did i say there were not?

hate is hate, and no matter what color the hater is, it's destuctive.

and that's just how it is.

I notice you use the word "destructive" when Black racism comes into the discussion. It was "racism" when we were discussing whites. I think I see your true colors pal..pun intended.. You're one of those hypocritical daily Kook libs or a black racist yourself.

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IndieTX  posted on  2008-10-25   15:32:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#640. To: Jethro Tull (#638)

I don't know. What suggests that the Martians won't be there directing Obingo?

Obama is less likely to purposely harm the US Americans because, after all, you can't have a strong State if your subjects get too sick, too demoralized or too stupid. What is apparent from observing these 2 is that Obama is not senile or insane. He also appears to be a decent person. McCain, of course, is indecent, insane and senile so... it's easy to pick Obama over McCain.

Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'

a vast rightwing conspirator  posted on  2008-10-25   15:32:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#641. To: christine (#631)

rest assured that it was. the mistake i made was not making the reason clear at the time. again, i feel that wadosy went far over the line with his incendiary comments regarding killing and exterminating blacks. i stand by my decision

And you did fine......that person was trying to instigate a reason for having feeble gubmint step in.

rowdee  posted on  2008-10-25   15:52:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#642. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#640)

What suggests that the Martians won't be there directing Obingo?

Such political insight.

Your children will thrive under Obongo's guiding hand.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-10-25   15:54:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#643. To: scrapper2 (#635)

And further to your fine commentary, scrapper...they wouldn't see that the gop majority congress from '94 onward to their demise in the early 2000s were bragging about even spending more than their apparently beloved perverted president was asking for!

But, hey....who lets facts get in the way....I need to order a new pair of 'rose colored' ones, I reckon.

rowdee  posted on  2008-10-25   15:56:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#644. To: rowdee, christine (#641)

And you did fine......that person was trying to instigate a reason for having feeble gubmint step in.

You got it, dee! wadosy was a purposeful fomenter.

scrapper2  posted on  2008-10-25   16:11:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#645. To: angle (#633)

I notice you didn't comment as to the drawing

I don't see that drawing as equivalent to wadosy's postings to me. As I said before, his accusing me of contributing to and/or fomenting race wars in this country because of the allowance of the discussion here struck me as an intimidation tactic, one intended to silence and censor me and others. As the thread progressed, he stopped debating the issue and, instead, began attacking my motives and hurling ad hominem accusations.

Then these two comments from him (1)"...short of going out and shooting a bunch of black people" " (2)seeing as how we're gonna have to exterminate colored people to make room for whites, i guess you're performing a public service, here," I determined were purposefully inflammatory. No one else wrote or suggested anything of the sort. Those words and ideas came from him alone. I believe this was an attempt to attribute those ideas, by insinuation, to me and/or others. Those comments caused me to conclude that wadosy's intent was to incite, intimidate, and to disrupt the debate, therefore, my decision to retire his account.

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christine  posted on  2008-10-25   17:20:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#646. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#636)

A Soviet Union-style breakup is likely within the next 50 years.

Drop the "0" from that prediction and you'll probably be closer to accurate.

In fact, the U.S. government in its present form probably only lasts until next summer. What happens after the debt default is not very predictable, except for the oppression part of it.

“I would give no thought of what the world might say of me, if I could only transmit to posterity the reputation of an honest man.” - Sam Houston

Sam Houston  posted on  2008-10-25   17:24:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#647. To: Ferret Mike (#634)

I never said you were a racist. I merely point out where you are myopic.

Myopic???????

How dare you deride my religion?????

Cynicom  posted on  2008-10-25   17:40:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#648. To: angle (#619) (Edited)

I didn't pay much attention to this thread until the matter had been somewhat settled, so this response isn't directed at the content of this particular topic.

But, wadosy was a trouble maker looking for an argument with every response and never added anything to the conversation.

There is no honor in bending one's knee to the banking elites that are robbing the children you claim to love of their future. Soon they'll convince those very same children that you deserve to be eliminated ... and they may be right.

noone222  posted on  2008-10-25   17:43:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#649. To: noone222 (#648)

This was Brother Wadosy near the beginning, giving 4um members a preview of what was to come.

"#78. To: Turtle (#76)

none of it makes sense.

that's why you should wait before you start spewing hatred all over this motherfucking forum.

wadosy posted on 2008-10-23 17:56:55 ET Reply Trace Private Reply

Such a fine upstanding gentleman?????

Cynicom  posted on  2008-10-25   17:52:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#650. To: all, Cynicom, angle (#647)

--

Its been eight long years since the boys said wassup to each other. Even with the effects of a down economy and imminent change in the White House, the boys are still able to come together and stay true to what really matters.

Heh, sometimes it's mine too,(Just don't tell anyone now, you here?)

Here is my favorite commercial of the season.


"You only have power over people so long as you don't take everything away from them. But when you've robbed a man of everything he's no longer in your power -- he's free again. Alexander Solzhenitsyn

Ferret Mike  posted on  2008-10-25   18:50:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#651. To: Cynicom (#649)

This was Brother Wadosy near the beginning, giving 4um members a preview of what was to come.

"#78. To: Turtle (#76)

none of it makes sense.

that's why you should wait before you start spewing hatred all over this motherfucking forum.

wadosy posted on 2008-10-23 17:56:55 ET Reply Trace Private Reply

Such a fine upstanding gentleman?????

This was my last post to the idiot !

#5. To: wadosy (#4) I've determined you're too stupid for me to waste time communicating with ... try Richard, he's more inclined to jack with the mentally challenged than I am.

There is no honor in bending one's knee to the banking elites that are robbing the children you claim to love of their future. Soon they'll convince those very same children that you deserve to be eliminated ... and they may be right.

noone222 posted on 2008-10-22 5:21:20 ET Reply Trace Private Reply

There is no honor in bending one's knee to the banking elites that are robbing the children you claim to love of their future. Soon they'll convince those very same children that you deserve to be eliminated ... and they may be right.

noone222  posted on  2008-10-25   19:03:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#652. To: christine, Original_Intent, all (#0)

....somebody charged with making a false report would typically be cited and sent a summons. But because police have concerns about Todd's mental health, they are consulting with the Allegheny County District Attorney...

Because she's a McCain supporter?


"It is like a trance. So what can break a trance? The only thing that can break the trance is the light of truth."
~ Canadian Philosopher John McMurtry as he comments on the psychological warfare that has afflicted us all

wudidiz  posted on  2008-10-25   21:15:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#653. To: Cynicom (#647)

Myopic???????

How dare you deride my religion?????

Ahh... you're a member of the Myopic Denial Mongers? Yes, I do believe that is, in fact, the single biggest religion on the face of the planet nowadays. How are the weekly sermons? Entertaining? Informative? Do you have things like socials and picnics on holidays?

Gold and silver are REAL money, paper is but a promise.

Elliott Jackalope  posted on  2008-10-25   21:22:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#654. To: Elliott Jackalope (#653)

Well, I was tryin to get olde Mike to smile for a change.

We have jousted for about ten years on the internet, agree on very few things but that does not mean we cannot be friends.

You give me an idea, maybe I will start a Myopic church, I will be the Pastor.

Mike likes to use big words on me, trying to confuse me, cause he knows I only went to 8th grade.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-10-25   21:29:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#655. To: Cynicom, Ferret Mike (#654)

Ferret Mike is one of those guys I disagree with more often than not, and yet I'm glad he's here. Keeps me on my toes.

Gold and silver are REAL money, paper is but a promise.

Elliott Jackalope  posted on  2008-10-25   21:41:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#656. To: scrapper2 (#550)

Should a vote be held, I'd say that this thread has devolved into the stupidest thread ever on this forum.

Now it has.

Now that this has been shown to be a hoax, are you willing to retract your comment?

We cannot afford peace at any price. - Newt Gingrich, May 29, 1998

rack42  posted on  2008-10-27   21:15:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#657. To: rack42 (#656)

Now that this has been shown to be a hoax, are you willing to retract your comment?

Say what? What are you getting at?

I didn't get onto this thread until it is was 1/2 or 2/3 through and at that point there were several sub-threads running concurrently. Actually I don't recall I even registered an opinion on whether or not the girl's allegation was true or false because I was responding to the sub-thread subjects.

So what am I supposed to retract?

scrapper2  posted on  2008-10-27   21:24:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#658. To: scrapper2 (#657)

I don't care about a retraction. I'm just ticked that when I responded with:

Should a vote be held, I'd say that this thread has devolved into the stupidest thread ever on this forum.

You responded:

Now it has.

I understood this as a denigration of my opinion. Perhaps I misunderstood your reply.

If so, I offer apologies. Otherwise, I'm dropping this thread.

We cannot afford peace at any price. - Newt Gingrich, May 29, 1998

rack42  posted on  2008-10-28   21:31:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#659. To: rack42 (#658)

I agreed with you. What first started as a news story devolved into that nutty provacateur, wadofhotair, acting out.

scrapper2  posted on  2008-10-28   22:02:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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