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Title: ABC News: The U.F.O. Disclosure Process Has Begun
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URL Source: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F2RIbaHD3bE
Published: Oct 23, 2008
Author: ABC News
Post Date: 2008-10-23 23:45:59 by FormerLurker
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#4. To: bluegrass, Pinguinite (#2)
Fixed. I think that's what they WANT you to think... Even when they come out with the truth, it isn't going to be believed due to the excellent job they've done of hiding state secrets in plain sight for the last fifty years if not longer.
Here's another interesting video I've found... Aliens are an even better foil than terrorists. They can make them in Hollywood. Terrorists take years to build.
Ahmadinejad in 2008! No, they want people to think that there UFOs. If the media pushes it enough, there's a sizable chunk of the population that will buy it. What has the media told the truth about in your living memory?
Ahmadinejad in 2008! "Higher beings from outer space may not want to tell us the secrets of life, because we're not ready. But maybe they'll change their tune after a little torture." ~ Jack Handey
The new enemy.
Many things they say ARE true of course. It's what they DON'T tell you that is a lie by omission.
And you don't think there are?
BTW, this clip wasn't made in Hollywood, this was filmed in Washington DC back in 1952. It made headlines. Of course there are objects flying that are unidentified. Unless I meet and am convinced by a sentient, alien being through proof, I'm unconvinced that the flying objects are piloted. Aviation technology has advanced incredibly in the past 30 years, much of it in secret.
Ahmadinejad in 2008! I don't doubt there are aliens. In fact I'd be surprised if there weren't. However, in my opinion, the mainstream media reporting about them takes away from the argument for their existence here. Because they're just so full of shit most of the rest of the time.
Do you think we had ships back in the 50's that could execute instant 90 turns at over 2000 mph? Do you think we have that technology today?
There's a reason they're coming out with this obviously, but more than likely it's not because they want to.
Even better - people have been trained to turn off their thought processes and not look. All they have to do is utter the control words: "Conspiracy Theory". People have been so trained and programmed all the media has to do is utter those words and the Sheeple go blank, turn away, and walk off. After all the government wouldn't like would they? Well?
"The difference between an honorable man and a moral man is that an honorable man regrets a discreditable act even when it has worked and he is in no danger of being caught." ~ H. L. Mencken
Do you believe that there are people in Africa? Have you ever gone there and met any yourself?
There's a reason they're coming out with this obviously, but more than likely it's not because they want to. So, the question is what is motivating them? That's a rhetorical question and I don't expect any of us to know, but it is something to think about.
"The difference between an honorable man and a moral man is that an honorable man regrets a discreditable act even when it has worked and he is in no danger of being caught." ~ H. L. Mencken
They don't even have to do that anymore, all they need to do is have the media mention it. That's the same thing with global warming, many people think it can't be true because the media talks about it and certain politicians who are seen as less than trustworthy are outspoken advocates for it.
I suspect something is coming towards us. That could be why they have the Army standing by in the US for possible martial law, who knows. Something is "up", that's for sure.
I've met Africans that came here. I know they were from Africa because they talked funny and introduced me to their families. I know a lot of people that know Africans. I don't know what I know about Africa because of what the military, the government or the media has told me. See my point?
Ahmadinejad in 2008! Something is "up", that's for sure. Or it could simply be that the general awareness has reached, or is near reaching, a critical threshold and it is no longer plausible to maintain denial. However, since they are pathologically secretive I suspect you're right that there is some thing which is motivating this. I still remember when Stars and Stripes published the article on the Mars Structures and had Military Photo Intelligence interpreters saying in the article that they were clearly artificial. I still wonder if that was a test to see how people in my area would react to the information. I suspect, but cannot prove, that it was a test of some kind.
"The difference between an honorable man and a moral man is that an honorable man regrets a discreditable act even when it has worked and he is in no danger of being caught." ~ H. L. Mencken
It's called a desperate attempt on the part of the Feds to clamp down.
Ahmadinejad in 2008! Here's something interesting... How do you know they weren't lying to you and were really from Brooklyn?
I've researched this for enough years to know that there is more to this than fantasy. I've seen a few odd things myself, and know people whom I trust that have told me about some things that THEY have seen that can't be explained away.
Well, HERE'S a REALLY interesting video. You need to watch it past the intro, it get's good. I might ask the same about your UFO videos.
Ahmadinejad in 2008! What I've seen wasn't a video, it was with my own eyes. Of course, when there are literally tens of thousands of witnesses or more going back to the early part of the last century who have reported such events, and there is video from the 50's showing UFOs flying by the US Capitol, along with various radar confirmations and military intercepts, then it makes it hard not to understand what's going on. Why are you so adament that this can't be true?
In fact bluegrass, this has been going on since the earliest days of man on this planet. There are cave paintings illustrating beings with helmets riding flying ships. Did the US government fake that too?
As I said earlier, unless I meet and am convinced by a sentient, alien being through proof, I'm unconvinced that the flying objects are piloted by these beings. Let it rest. This is an issue of faith.
Ahmadinejad in 2008! Not really, this is a matter of using logic and reason. Religion is based on faith, physical objects are not. I don't know how real this image is, but this is what MANY people who claim to have seen them say some of them look like... Same here. Clue: Fort Hood, Texas, as unlikely as that location seems.
I think there are a LOT more people that have seen them and not reported them than there are who have actually reported them publically. It's due to the ridicule and trouble that it brings.
I imagine the true mission of the international space station will be revealed then.
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
I believe that there's enough archaeological and historical evidence to support the existence of extraterrestrial life finding their way here. I haven't ever witnessed them myself but don't consider their existence or others sightings to be pranks or the words of fakers but entirely possible. I believe much of our advancement in technology is reverse engineered from sources other worldly. I think "fiber optics" is one example because in researching its development no one was ever individually credited with inventing it, no nobel prizes etc., and it's responsible for this immediate transmission of my thoughts. When I looked into it I discovered it was claimed to have come from "Hughes Aircraft" a CIA operation run through Howard Hughes company. Considering all of the weird shit that happened to poor old Howard ... someone was concealing something. Thinking about that video of Kilgallen and Monroe ... they were both associated with JFK. Kilgallen, a brave and curious genius, maybe even a true hero (alone) interviewed Ruby after Kennedy and Oswald were murdered and she soon followed. JFK was the first President to launch a space program (and knew it was a real possibility) ... they all were murdered ... the question is why. One thing that has always bothered me is the fact that we mere mortals are always treated as children by the assholes in charge.
There is no honor in bending one's knee to the banking elites that are robbing the children you claim to love of their future. Soon they'll convince those very same children that you deserve to be eliminated ... and they may be right. Doug Scheidt 10-21-08
Galactic Federation of light - Message from the Pleiadians God is infinite, so His universe must be too. Thus is the excellence of God magnified and the greatness of His kingdom made manifest; He is glorified not in one, but in countless suns; not in a single earth, a single world, but in a thousand thousand, I say in an infinity of worlds. - Giordana Bruno, 1584, "On the Infinite Universe and Worlds" [Executed by the Inquisition] p.s. much love.....my wud......xoxoxoxoxoxo
'Out there' ping.
I've heard it said that fiber optics were definitely reverse engineered from alien technology from a recovered craft. It was part of what was mentioned in the disclosure video that gengis gandhi posted the other day. Here's the link; Jose Escamilla's Film "Ufos: The Greatest Story Ever Denied" It's really a must watch video...
I'm not sure about how much credence I place with those who claim to channel messages from Pleiadians, but part of what is mentioned in that video appears to be correct. However, from what I've read concerning the Annanuki, which are the gods mentioned by the Sumerians, and who are also the Nephilim mentioned in the Bible, they rearranged our DNA in order to use us as slaves mining their gold, which they needed for whatever purpose. Conversely, they also gave us our knowledge of math, science, argriculture, and government. I just tread with caution upon placing any trust in how benevolent they are.
Thanks, I'm downloading it right now.
There is no honor in bending one's knee to the banking elites that are robbing the children you claim to love of their future. Soon they'll convince those very same children that you deserve to be eliminated ... and they may be right.
ABC News: The U.F.O. Diversion Process Has Begun
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#5. To: All (#0)
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#6. To: Pinguinite (#3)
Everyone agrees that unanimity is hard to find.
#7. To: FormerLurker (#4)
I think that's what they WANT you to think...
Everyone agrees that unanimity is hard to find.
#8. To: FormerLurker, gengis gandhi, Jethro Tull, HOUNDDAWG, christine, TwentyTwelve, Original_Intent (#1)
"It is like a trance. So what can break a trance? The only thing that can break the trance is the light of truth."
~ Canadian Philosopher John McMurtry as he comments on the psychological warfare that has afflicted us all
#9. To: Pinguinite, bluegrass (#3)
Terrorists out, aliens in?
"It is like a trance. So what can break a trance? The only thing that can break the trance is the light of truth."
~ Canadian Philosopher John McMurtry as he comments on the psychological warfare that has afflicted us all
#10. To: bluegrass (#7)
(Edited)
What has the media told the truth about in your living memory
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#11. To: bluegrass (#7)
No, they want people to think that there UFOs
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#12. To: bluegrass (#7)
What exactly do you think THIS is?
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#13. To: bluegrass, Pinguinite, wudidiz (#6)
Aliens are an even better foil than terrorists. They can make them in Hollywood. Terrorists take years to build.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#14. To: FormerLurker (#11)
Everyone agrees that unanimity is hard to find.
#15. To: FormerLurker, Pinguinite, bluegrass (#13)
"It is like a trance. So what can break a trance? The only thing that can break the trance is the light of truth."
~ Canadian Philosopher John McMurtry as he comments on the psychological warfare that has afflicted us all
#16. To: bluegrass (#14)
Aviation technology has advanced incredibly in the past 30 years, much of it in secret.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#17. To: wudidiz (#15)
Because they're just so full of shit most of the rest of the time.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#18. To: FormerLurker, bluegrass, Pinguinite (#4)
Even when they come out with the truth, it isn't going to be believed due to the excellent job they've done of hiding state secrets in plain sight for the last fifty years if not longer.
#19. To: bluegrass (#14)
Unless I meet and am convinced by a sentient, alien being through proof, I'm unconvinced that the flying objects are piloted.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#20. To: FormerLurker, Wudidiz (#17)
Because they're just so full of shit most of the rest of the time.
#21. To: Original_Intent (#18)
All they have to do is utter the control words: "Conspiracy Theory".
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#22. To: Original_Intent (#20)
So, the question is what is motivating them?
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#23. To: FormerLurker (#19)
Do you believe that there are people in Africa? Have you ever gone there and met any yourself?
Everyone agrees that unanimity is hard to find.
#24. To: FormerLurker (#22)
(Edited)
I suspect something is coming towards us. That could be why they have the Army standing by in the US for possible martial law, who knows.
#25. To: FormerLurker (#22)
Something is "up", that's for sure.
Everyone agrees that unanimity is hard to find.
#26. To: Original_Intent (#20)
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#27. To: bluegrass (#23)
I know they were from Africa because they talked funny and introduced me to their families.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#28. To: bluegrass (#25)
It's called a desperate attempt on the part of the Feds to clamp down.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#29. To: Original_Intent (#20)
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#30. To: FormerLurker (#27)
How do you know they weren't lying to you and were really from Brooklyn?
Everyone agrees that unanimity is hard to find.
#31. To: bluegrass (#30)
(Edited)
I might ask the same about your UFO videos.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#32. To: bluegrass (#30)
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#33. To: FormerLurker (#31)
Everyone agrees that unanimity is hard to find.
#34. To: bluegrass (#33)
(Edited)
This is an issue of faith.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#35. To: FormerLurker (#28)
and know people whom I trust that have told me about some things that THEY have seen that can't be explained away.
-Schweizerische Schuetzenzeitung (Swiss Shooting Federation) April, 1941
#36. To: X-15 (#35)
Same here. Clue: Fort Hood, Texas, as unlikely as that location seems.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#37. To: All (#0)
This could well explain the rush to disclose a few things...
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#38. To: FormerLurker (#37)
#39. To: FormerLurker (#28)
(Edited)
I've researched this for enough years to know that there is more to this than fantasy. I've seen a few odd things myself, and know people whom I trust that have told me about some things that THEY have seen that can't be explained away.
#40. To: FormerLurker, wudidiz, Original_Intent (#37)
#41. To: mysticmessages, Original_Intent, FormerLurker (#40)
"It is like a trance. So what can break a trance? The only thing that can break the trance is the light of truth."
~ Canadian Philosopher John McMurtry as he comments on the psychological warfare that has afflicted us all
#42. To: noone222, gengis gandhi (#39)
I think "fiber optics" is one example because in researching its development no one was ever individually credited with inventing it, no nobel prizes etc., and it's responsible for this immediate transmission of my thoughts.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#43. To: mysticmessages (#40)
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#44. To: FormerLurker (#42)
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