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Title: After the Election, Hide Your Stuff
Source: News With Views
URL Source: http://www.newswithviews.com/Stang/alan169.htm
Published: Oct 24, 2008
Author: Alan Stang
Post Date: 2008-10-24 00:12:02 by echo5sierra
Keywords: None
Views: 1068
Comments: 58

Here we are, a couple of weeks before the election, and I must confess I am in awe at the staggering genius of the conspiracy for world government. The conspirators strategize not just in years, but in decades. We are looking at the culmination of a scheme that obviously was planned and set in motion many years ago, a masterful demonstration of dialectical materialism. It’s no surprise that we are losing.

The Communist Party says it abolished itself. We can be sure of that because – heh, heh – the Party says so. But the Party is merely playing possum. It is about to elect a Communist President of the United States, where the government investigated, fired, fined and jailed Communists until a few years ago; and where people used to sue if you called them a Red.

Personally, I am suffering from a classic case of Yogi Berra’s déjà vu all over again. Forty years ago, I covered the Democrat National Convention in Chicago, which the Communists attacked. There was tear gas. There was the Chicago Police Department’s “Stink Squad,” assigned to investigate the incredible, lingering stench in the lobby of the Hilton. There was the court trial of the Chicago Seven.

All these many years later, I believed that 1968 was long dead medieval history, before the internet, when you had to use a “pay phone” to make a call. What? Had you told me then that forty years later the heirs and colleagues of the Communists who attacked the convention would elect one of their own President on a Communist platform, I would have thought it less likely than the possibility that Bella Abzug could have been named Miss America.

On the other ticket, we have a leader of the illegal alien invasion of this country, a man who sponsored successful legislation to inhibit freedom of speech, a former POW, who has since done everything he can to bury the POWs still abandoned in Southeast Asia, a man who takes pains to insult the POW families, actually hugged a North Vietnamese Communist torturer at a hearing in Washington and is a staunch advocate of world government, and on and on.

I believe that John McCain’s bizarre behavior is the result of prolonged and intensive Soviet interrogation and brainwashing in Vietnam, the product of which is a true Manchurian candidate. I believe that is why he made some thirty two propaganda tapes for the North Vietnamese, tapes broadcast over the loudspeakers in the prison camps, where other POWs heard them.

John Top Holland cites a report in his new book, Perfidy: The Government Cabal That Knowingly Abandoned Our Prisoners Of War and Left Them to Die (Washington, AFP, 2008), that McCain’s CIA file shows he was in a Communist country in eastern Europe for a couple of years, not in a North Vietnamese hole. Were the Soviets preparing him to go home and enter politics?

So, in effect, there is a Communist at the top of each ticket. The only “difference” is in their styles and appearance, in which kind of Communist they are. The conspirators for world government must be whooping with delight. Totally benighted, we are about to vote ourselves into Communist penury and enslavement. If the people ever wake up, it could be too late.

Notice that whatever the revelations about their candidate and however many there are, Obamatrons are not impressed, not by the present certainty that he spent considerable time as a child with a Communist Party sexual degenerate, and then, as an adult, with a violent Communist terrorist in Chicago, not by the probability that he is a Communist himself, not by the fact that he is an illegal alien and therefore ineligible to be President, and not by the fact that for years he was, and maybe still is, a Muslim, and on and on. He has been trained all his life to run for President this year.

I don’t believe I exaggerate very much when I speculate that the typical Obamatron would not be moved were Barney Frank caught in flagrante delicto behind Senator Hussein. He is “the One.” He is “the Messiah.” Why? The answer is whacking you upside the head. The present fiasco could only be possible because for a couple of generations now our population has literally been brainwashed in our Communist government schools. That national brainwashing is reinforced daily by our Communist media.

Who will win? I have built a reputation over almost half a century for brevity, clarity and honesty, and I shall not disappoint you here. I don’t know. But it makes no real difference. Again, the tops of the tickets are Reds. Both parties have collaborated to install the legal machinery that would legitimize a wall to wall Communist dictatorship. Posse comitatus has been repealed, and so on.

What should we realistically expect after the election? Because people are asking about it, I need to expand on a subject I have already raised. Many Americans are storing food, firearms, fuel and other essentials. A good idea! Go ahead and do it. But some are thinking they will “sit it out.”

When supermarket shelves go bare, when the ammo is gone, when the lights go out and there is no more gas, etc., they will reload at home, fire up the propane lanterns, barbecue those sides of beef, enjoy feasting and congratulate themselves on their foresight. A silly idea! What did you imagine the government will be doing while you “sit it out?”

Large, ugly men with no senses of humor, heavily armed federal agents, will come to your house, break down the door if they have to, and confiscate what you have stored. They will carry it out, load it on trucks and take it away. You will never see all that toilet paper, those medicines, those MREs, etc., again. What? They can’t do that!

They can’t? What about the Executive Orders? Remember? They must be important because every President has tinkered with them. They have the force of law. When the President declares a national emergency, the Executive Orders give him legal authority to seize every thimble and lug nut, every seed and female hygiene product, in fact every female in the country. And the fact that you are hoarding all those things is an obvious emergency.

Look them up. Neither Hitler, nor Stalin, nor even Mao Tse-tung was able to seize that much power. They didn’t have the technology. The next President, a Communist, will. No problem, though. Der Plan calls for them to load you on another truck and take you to a camp, where you will recline in taxpayer comfort while Der Heimat Security decides what to do.

Remember that those camps are financed, finished, equipped and staffed – and empty. Needless to say, for reasons of safety and to protect The Children, you will be forbidden to bring your firearms to the camps. We must do what it takes to protect The Children. And a member of the Clergy Response Team – who believes Romans 13 says you must obey government whatever it does – will be there to reassure you.

Indeed, when you arrive you will find many friends and neighbors, because people from miles around will be concentrated there. What would you call those camps? Let’s see. People will be relocated there. Why not “relocation centers?” Good. Again, people will be concentrated there. Hmm! Any thoughts?

This part of our analysis is not speculation. We know this will happen. We know it because both of the candidates are Communists. Just this morning, my guest on the Sting of Stang, Vietnam POW wife Diane van Renselaar, confirmed and amplified for me on the air what Army Colonel William Atkins told her (cited in the Holland book). According to his CIA file, John Sidney McCain spent a couple of years after capture not in a North Vietnam prison being tortured, but in Communist Czechoslovakia being “wined and dined.”

So we shall get one kind of Communism or another. And somewhere in the process you will make a choice. You do not have the choice not to make a choice. You will make it. Doing nothing is also a choice. What choice will you have? I am a total amateur on the subject. Alexander Solzhenitsyn is an expert.

In his Gulag Archipelago, he explains that even while they are dragging you away, you will tell yourself it is a mistake. I am innocent. They will let me go. “At what exact point, then, should one resist? When one’s belt is taken away? When one is ordered to face into a corner? When one crosses the threshold of one’s home? . . .”

In a famous footnote on page 13 of my edition, he writes: “And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if every Security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive . . . . Or if, during periods of mass arrests . . . people had not simply sat there in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door . . . and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand? . . .

“If . . . if . . . We didn’t love freedom enough. . . . We submitted with pleasure! . . . We purely and simply deserved everything that happened afterward.” Solzhenitsyn says “resistance should have begun right there, at the moment of the arrest itself. But it did not begin.” Of course, he is talking about Russia. Here the same thing would have a different style. For instance, in the Soviet Union you were simply arrested. Here, if you ask one of the super patriot zombies whether you are being arrested, he will say you are not, but you must go along to the camp.

So what will you do? Will you simply give up your stash and get on the bus? Right now you probably don’t know yourself. You may not know until it happens. But we do know they are coming. We do know who the enemy is. The enemy – and I mean this literally, not metaphorically – are for instance the national Communist media.

People like Katie Kook and Chris Matthews and Bill Maher, outfits like the Communist News Network (CNN) and the Communist Broadcasting System (CBS) are just as much enemies as Wehrmacht Panzer units invading our country in uniform would have been in 1943. They are not confused. They know what they are doing. They will not stop until they destroy you. And they are accessible. You don’t need me to tell you what to do with such an enemy.

The enemy is Helicopter Ben Bernanke, Ponzi Paulson, Madam Peelousy, Butt jumper Barney Frank and Chris Dodd, the bottom slice of Ted Kennedy’s “waitress sandwich.” And on and on. The Red professors. All the people who routinely spit in your face; the people who don’t care how you vote, for whom the vote is a mere charade; the people who have destroyed your job and intend to dissolve your country.

They have gotten away with it, so far, because you have not yet made them sufficiently afraid when they set foot in your neighborhoods. The soles inside their Guccis don’t yet tingle nervously when they set foot on the tarmac. The ones who are elected must return to the districts once in a while to maintain the pretense that they represent you, but they don’t yet wonder whether they will return to Washington alive.

What el presidente Jorge W. Boosh would call “el momento de verdad” is coming soon. Look at the Executive Orders. Then read Solzhenitsyn.

[Announcement: Alan Stang's new radio show, The Sting of Stang, will debut on Monday, July 14th, 7 to 8 a.m., Central, M-F, via Republic Broadcasting Network. To listen, go to republicbroadcasting.org and click on Listen Live. Call in is 800 313-9443. If you can't listen at that time, do so via the archives, which are free. I'll be talking about the various manifestations of the conspiracy for world government, its tactics, such as the illegal alien invasion, its purposes and its players, from Jorge W. Boosh on down.]

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#9. To: ferret mike, ALL World Marxist Obamatrons (#0)

Notice that whatever the revelations about their candidate and however many there are, Obamatrons are not impressed, not by the present certainty that he spent considerable time as a child with a Communist Party sexual degenerate, and then, as an adult, with a violent Communist terrorist in Chicago, not by the probability that he is a Communist himself, not by the fact that he is an illegal alien and therefore ineligible to be President, and not by the fact that for years he was, and maybe still is, a Muslim, and on and on. He has been trained all his life to run for President this year.

I don’t believe I exaggerate very much when I speculate that the typical Obamatron would not be moved were Barney Frank caught in flagrante delicto behind Senator Hussein. He is “the One.” He is “the Messiah.” Why? The answer is whacking you upside the head. The present fiasco could only be possible because for a couple of generations now our population has literally been brainwashed in our Communist government schools. That national brainwashing is reinforced daily by our Communist media.

There is no defense for the indefensible.

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2008-10-24   2:11:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: noone222, All (#0)

So we shall get one kind of Communism or another. And somewhere in the process you will make a choice. You do not have the choice not to make a choice. You will make it. Doing nothing is also a choice. What choice will you have? I am a total amateur on the subject. Alexander Solzhenitsyn is an expert.

In his Gulag Archipelago, he explains that even while they are dragging you away, you will tell yourself it is a mistake. I am innocent. They will let me go. “At what exact point, then, should one resist? When one’s belt is taken away? When one is ordered to face into a corner? When one crosses the threshold of one’s home? . . .”

In a famous footnote on page 13 of my edition, he writes: “And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if every Security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive . . . . Or if, during periods of mass arrests . . . people had not simply sat there in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door . . . and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand? . . .

“If . . . if . . . We didn’t love freedom enough. . . . We submitted with pleasure! . . . We purely and simply deserved everything that happened afterward.” Solzhenitsyn says “resistance should have begun right there, at the moment of the arrest itself. But it did not begin.” Of course, he is talking about Russia. Here the same thing would have a different style. For instance, in the Soviet Union you were simply arrested. Here, if you ask one of the super patriot zombies whether you are being arrested, he will say you are not, but you must go along to the camp.

So what will you do? Will you simply give up your stash and get on the bus? Right now you probably don’t know yourself.

Everybody had BETTER know by now !

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2008-10-24   2:18:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: ALL, *Constitution Party* (#0)

People like Katie Kook and Chris Matthews and Bill Maher, outfits like the Communist News Network (CNN) and the Communist Broadcasting System (CBS) are just as much enemies as Wehrmacht Panzer units invading our country in uniform would have been in 1943. They are not confused. They know what they are doing. They will not stop until they destroy you. And they are accessible. You don’t need me to tell you what to do with such an enemy.

North American Union (NAU) Bibliography ~ Info On The Web



By Daneen G. Peterson, Ph.D.


April 21, 2006


Latest Update September 28, 2008





A Cabal



Note:  14 of the 17 policymakers in the picture currently belong to the Council on Foreign Relations (cfr.org).  Two others, Rumsfeld (currently a member of the Trilateral Commission) and Laird, are former members of the CFR.  Of the 17, George W. Bush himself is the only one who has not belonged to the organization, but he is a member of the 'Skull and Bones', another of the One World Monopolists' elite cabal.



Starting on the left:  Former Secretary of Defense Harold Brown, former Secretary of State Lawrence Eagleburger, former Secretary of State James Baker, former Secretary of State Colin Powell, former Secretary of Defense James Schlesinger, Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld, Vice President Dick Cheney, President George W. Bush, Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice, former Secretary of State George Shultz, former Secretary of Defense Melvin Laird, former Secretary of Defense Robert McNamara, former Secretary of State Madeleine Albright , former Secretary of State Alexander Haig, former Secretary of Defense Frank Carlucci, former Secretary of Defense William Perry, and former Secretary of Defense William Cohen.



Photograph:  John F. McManus, A Snapshot of CFR Dominance, February 6, 2006, The New American.



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"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2008-10-24   2:24:44 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Critter (#2)

Large, ugly men with no senses of humor, heavily armed federal agents, will come to your house, break down the door if they have to, and confiscate what you have stored.

Bring lots of body bags.

That's right.

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2008-10-24   2:28:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Elliott Jackalope, ALL (#3)

I know enough of my history to know that when they start knocking on doors and hauling people away, the game is basically over. Better a quick death than a long, drawn out miserable slow death from abuse, neglect and starvation. We need to pay very close attention to this forum and others like it. When people start getting hauled away, we need to put the alarm out BIG TIME to everyone else who understands what's going on. Personally, I'll never go to a camp. I'd much much much rather die in my home, ideally while in the process of taking some of those evil bastards out with me. They're miserable cowards, every last one of them. If they have to seriously worry about getting their heads blown off while rounding up people for the camps, they'll think twice, and hesitate, and start to look sideways at their bosses. But if everyone meekly submits, then we'll all deserve what we get.

Once you get on their bus, truck, SUV or whatever, it's game over. From that moment on your life is over. It then just becomes a question of how miserable your wretched life becomes before they finally kill you, and by then death is a mercy. Don't think for one moment it can't happen here. It can, and it's really starting to look like it will. Once that flag goes up, every "official" from the highest office to the lowest cop on the beat is THE ENEMY. Don't ever forget that either.

You post lots of good stuff.

This is the best post of yours I've ever read.

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2008-10-24   2:28:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Rotara, Elliott Jackalope, ALL (#13)

I know enough of my history to know that when they start knocking on doors and hauling people away, the game is basically over. Better a quick death than a long, drawn out miserable slow death from abuse, neglect and starvation. We need to pay very close attention to this forum and others like it. When people start getting hauled away, we need to put the alarm out BIG TIME to everyone else who understands what's going on. Personally, I'll never go to a camp. I'd much much much rather die in my home, ideally while in the process of taking some of those evil bastards out with me. They're miserable cowards, every last one of them. If they have to seriously worry about getting their heads blown off while rounding up people for the camps, they'll think twice, and hesitate, and start to look sideways at their bosses. But if everyone meekly submits, then we'll all deserve what we get. Once you get on their bus, truck, SUV or whatever, it's game over. From that moment on your life is over. It then just becomes a question of how miserable your wretched life becomes before they finally kill you, and by then death is a mercy. Don't think for one moment it can't happen here. It can, and it's really starting to look like it will. Once that flag goes up, every "official" from the highest office to the lowest cop on the beat is THE ENEMY. Don't ever forget that either.

You post lots of good stuff.

This is the best post of yours I've ever read.

I could only add that we've seen it coming and know it has to be stopped by us. It's a shitty deal but we're responsible for having allowed the pencil necked psychopaths into power positions.

I hate to sound antisemetic (not really) but I have a theory that when the remedy sought is properly focused on the upper level zionazi banking thugs who are actually responsible for the disproportionate ownership of "stuff", that being when 90% of "stuff" is owned by 1% of the population, it's past time to take the 1% by the ankles, hold them upside down and shake their pockets empty.

Often times the 1% are able to resist this "fairness doctrine" by hiring a few mercenaries. Should this occur there may be a little more discomfort in restoring things but not so much as to dissuade the righteous resumption of normalcy for the current and future generations.

The 1% and their current toadies (media / govt. etc) have convinced most of the world to give up their guns. This is a shame because they will have to resort to burning tires, molotov cocktails, and whatever artillery they can steal from the mercenaries. We Americans have lots of weapons at our immediate disposal, and if we've done our jobs as parents, our kids even have access to tanks, and B-2 Bombers ... let's roll.

It shouldn't take too long to convince a bunch of Jew Bankers to "get thee hence, satan" ! I know it's not a pleasant thought and things shouldn't get this out of control, but history provides countless examples of the same or similar conditions provoking the outrage of the justified masses in expelling the shysters by whatever means necessary.

Let us always remain optimistic, and get together with your kids. Let them know you love them and that they have a duty to their children and grand-children who will never forget who really loved them, and it wasn't ever a fucking banker.

There is no honor in bending one's knee to the banking elites that are robbing the children you claim to love of their future. Soon they'll convince those very same children that you deserve to be eliminated ... and they may be right.

Doug Scheidt 10-21-08

noone222  posted on  2008-10-24   2:57:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: noone222 (#14)

The 1% and their current toadies (media / govt. etc) have convinced most of the world to give up their guns.

"The voluntary slave is more despicable than the tyrant" -Samuel Adams

“The best and first guarantor of our neutrality and our independent existence is the defensive will of the people…and the proverbial marksmanship of the Swiss shooter. Each soldier a good marksman! Each shot a hit!”
-Schweizerische Schuetzenzeitung (Swiss Shooting Federation) April, 1941

X-15  posted on  2008-10-24   3:08:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: noone222 (#14)

Spot on post, that resonated. Appreciate it.

I just don't see them as "10 Commandment Jews" and I don't see only "Jew Bankers" but rather all sorts of luciferians. Figures satan uses such as his world government - antiChrist delivery system.

and

Let us always remain optimistic, and get together with your kids. Let them know you love them and that they have a duty to their children and grand-children who will never forget who really loved them, and it wasn't ever a fucking banker.

Amen

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2008-10-24   3:17:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: X-15, noone222 (#15)

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

The PTB must know that we're willing to die and kill our enemies at least as much as they're eager to enslave/murder us.

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2008-10-24   3:19:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: echo5sierra (#0)

One of the most comprehensive posts on this topic. Thank you. Lock and load my friends.

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#19. To: Rotara (#16)

Thank you kind sir, ... let me say just one more thing:

Knowing I have already fucked the assholes out of the best 58 years, and viewing the next 58 with total disdain, I have concluded that I represent the most eligible threat to those sons of bitches that exists on earth. This gives me a certain satisfaction that I have difficulty in explaining.

There is no honor in bending one's knee to the banking elites that are robbing the children you claim to love of their future. Soon they'll convince those very same children that you deserve to be eliminated ... and they may be right.

Doug Scheidt 10-21-08

noone222  posted on  2008-10-24   4:01:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: noone222 (#19)

Knowing I have already fucked the assholes out of the best 58 years, and viewing the next 58 with total disdain, I have concluded that I represent the most eligible threat to those sons of bitches that exists on earth. This gives me a certain satisfaction that I have difficulty in explaining

Indeed

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2008-10-24   4:11:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: Rotara (#10)

“If . . . if . . . We didn’t love freedom enough. . . . We submitted with pleasure! . . . We purely and simply deserved everything that happened afterward.” Solzhenitsyn says “resistance should have begun right there, at the moment of the arrest itself. But it did not begin.”

Amen ! I live in a small Texas town with neighbors that love freedom but not necessarily to the extent required to remain free. The positives are actually in local law enforcement. They remain loyal to liberty, know the price and will pay it.

There is no honor in bending one's knee to the banking elites that are robbing the children you claim to love of their future. Soon they'll convince those very same children that you deserve to be eliminated ... and they may be right.

Doug Scheidt 10-21-08

noone222  posted on  2008-10-24   4:14:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: noone222 (#21)

The positives are actually in local law enforcement. They remain loyal to liberty, know the price and will pay it.

Your County got an American for Sheriff huh?

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2008-10-24   4:22:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: noone222 (#19)

I'm in my late 40's myself, and pretty much feel exactly the same way.

Gold and silver are REAL money, paper is but a promise.

Elliott Jackalope  posted on  2008-10-24   4:26:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: Rotara (#22)

Your County got an American for Sheriff huh?

Yes, and he was also named Sheriff of the year by his peers. I've been here for almost 13 years. I have no licenses, permits or any associations with what are considered necessary by most people.

I have not hidden anything about myself from my neighbors regardless of their positions in the local caste system, but more importantly, I think, is I have always demonstrated an interest in getting along, being helpful and not interrupting their way of doing things while at the same time expressing a certain dissatisfaction with the way things have been shifted in the wrong direction.

I feel very fortunate, and have worked towards establishing relationships with everyone here wherein the opportunity to discuss issues and reach consensus isn't inhibited by me acting like they are the enemy, because really they aren't. They are just behind the info curve and usually aren't the demons "patriots" accuse them of being. [I also trust God to deliver me into whatever situation necessary for the accomplishment of "His/Her Will].

Over time my relationships here have become so freaking normal in spite of my refusal to cooperate with accepted norms ... and while some may feel I'm a nut job ... it's OK because I'm not a threat to them and they like me for the most part. I have made a concerted effort to be a hard worker, good neighbor and friendly.

I have also had opportunities to display a little ability to defend my positions in court, elsewhere but not far away. They are totally aware of these incidents and have taken measures to keep similar actions from happening here. I made sure to demonstrate a willingness to get along as a good neighbor while at the same time making it clear that if forced to defend myself I would do so with vigor. No one seems to find it necessary, and this is a relief because I hate litigation.

All I'm really trying to say is that "patriots" should try to see other people's situations and try to adjust their conversations so that it doesn't become adversarial but rather a joint effort to correct the system that everyone knows is screwed up.

I've had numerous opportunities to confront issues in court and haven't always won. Sometimes, even though I'm losing, I drag their asses all the way to the finish line simply to establish the fact that I'm serious. The benefit to this method is that I have made friends with judges and prosecutors along the way and they tend to appreciate a good argument and a pleasant demeanor. They also shy away from being embarrassed by a pro se ... human nature (pride) causes them to avoid embarrassing situations.

It seems to me that almost any situation can be diffused and negotiated without evryone feeling like they had to lose ... win/win is the object/goal.

I'm rambling so I'll shut up.

There is no honor in bending one's knee to the banking elites that are robbing the children you claim to love of their future. Soon they'll convince those very same children that you deserve to be eliminated ... and they may be right.

Doug Scheidt 10-21-08

noone222  posted on  2008-10-24   5:19:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: Rotara (#10) (Edited)

In his Gulag Archipelago, he explains that even while they are dragging you away, you will tell yourself it is a mistake. I am innocent. They will let me go. “At what exact point, then, should one resist? When one’s belt is taken away? When one is ordered to face into a corner? When one crosses the threshold of one’s home? . . .”

When they come to your door, be sure you take 10 of them before they get you. THAT is when you should reist. Once you're cuffed, it is over. And this is coming from one who once wore the badge.

Law Enforcement Against Prohibition

"There is no 'legitimate' Corporation by virtue of its very legal definition and purpose."
-- IndieTx

"Corporation: An entity created for the legal protection of its human parasites, whose sole purpose is profit and self-perpetuation." © IndieTx

IndieTX  posted on  2008-10-24   5:39:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: Elliott Jackalope (#23)

I'm in my late 40's myself, and pretty much feel exactly the same way.

I had the opportunity to care for my dad for about a year after he suffered a stroke. He was paralyzed and his quality of life reduced to smoking a carton of cigarettes a day and watching foreign films from a wheel-chair.

I left after a year when he was able to do things for himself again and my services weren't necessary any longer. That year was one of the best I ever had because I patched up my somewhat strained (from teen years)relationship with my dad, recognized the greatness of the average guy that makes the sacrifices to raise a family when he'd rather be out whoring around, and most importantly made a conscious decision that old age wasn't agreeable to me. My dad often made statements to that effect such as life is about quality not about quantity.

I believe him !

There is no honor in bending one's knee to the banking elites that are robbing the children you claim to love of their future. Soon they'll convince those very same children that you deserve to be eliminated ... and they may be right.

Doug Scheidt 10-21-08

noone222  posted on  2008-10-24   5:39:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: echo5sierra (#0)

In a famous footnote on page 13 of my edition, he writes: “And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if every Security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive . . . . Or if, during periods of mass arrests . . . people had not simply sat there in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door . . . and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand? . . .

We haven't been disarmed like the Russians were. Instead of axes, hammers and pokers the jackboots in this country will likely be facing 12 gauges, .45's and .308's. It wouldn't take many of those encounters to take the sand right out of even the hard core thugs.

duckhunter  posted on  2008-10-24   11:27:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: duckhunter, armed people here (#27)

Instead of axes, hammers and pokers the jackboots in this country will likely be facing 12 gauges, .45's and .308's.

They might be totally amazed at what one can acquire over the years.

Iran Truth Now!

Lod  posted on  2008-10-24   12:06:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: lodwick (#28)

They might be totally amazed at what one can acquire over the years.

I'm sure many will have some most interesting toys to try out. I was thinking more of what the average JBT will face.

duckhunter  posted on  2008-10-24   12:13:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: duckhunter (#29)

I was thinking more of what the average JBT will face.

That's what I meant about the goodies that folks like us may have in our safes, closets, night-stands, and elsewhere...

Iran Truth Now!

Lod  posted on  2008-10-24   12:34:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: Rotara (#8)

"Wake up !"

Grow up. I served nine years in the military and have a college education. I have earned the right to my opinion, and know how to form a very informed one as I have here as to whom I support of these two men for president.

You seem to feel the need to try to do a high school bully routine to try to build you a little old reputation -- much as a bully does -- and to try to create discomfort on my part.

It doesn't work that way. Whether you are in my face physically, or virtually as in here, I have exactly the same message for your ugly ass, Barack Obama for president.

Enough of right wing destruction of elected leaders like Salvadore Allende to put murderous tyrants like General Augusta Pinochet in power.

A man I might mention Senator McCain had gone down and met with while in he was in power.

Enough of right wing, Nazi-like patter about how the ideological 'foe' has mental illness. This has always been part of the tactic of justifying the confinement of people for different viewpoints for centuries, and pushed to implementation, that tactic will mean the unleashing of a great deal of destructive violence.

Sarah Palin likes to talk about Ayers and Obama, but does not thing abortion clinic bombers and attackers are terrorists. She is of a religious paradigm of people favored of God and those ensconced with the curse of the devil, which interestingly enough seems to be where you live, with your chronic disease of the glorification of bullying and promotion of the planning and commission of violence.

Your sort of doctrine of fascist brinkmanship has and has had many faces, voices and means of implementation in recent decades, but your run is up.

I am one of millions who oppose the divide and conquer ways you love so dearly. You talk a big talk, but our opposition to what you stand for cannot be overcome by the puny numbers of various factions of neocons and conservatives that are your ilk. You can now keep feuding with one another as you shuffle off to the political wilderness with the exit of Bush for a spell. This should be a good chance for you and yours' to finally develop some character and people skills.

Go reinvent yourselves and see if you can finally get it right, that the U.S. Constitution is for all peoples of all religions, points of views, races, or any other element of human diversity.

Now, thanks again for your amusing input, and with deep sincerity I say, up yours. And you will reap what you sow.


"You only have power over people so long as you don't take everything away from them. But when you've robbed a man of everything he's no longer in your power -- he's free again. Alexander Solzhenitsyn

Ferret Mike  posted on  2008-10-24   14:06:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: Ferret Mike (#31)

Think Birth Certificate ...

There is no honor in bending one's knee to the banking elites that are robbing the children you claim to love of their future. Soon they'll convince those very same children that you deserve to be eliminated ... and they may be right.

noone222  posted on  2008-10-24   14:09:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: Ferret Mike (#31)

It doesn't work that way. Whether you are in my face physically, or virtually as in here, I have exactly the same message for your ugly ass, Barack Obama for president.

If he weren't black, you wouldn't give a flying fig. You're all about color, Mikey.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-10-24   14:09:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: Jethro Tull (#33)

You're all about color, Mikey.

weasel just wants to ride in the limo on his knees

It's the second mouse that gets the cheese

Flintlock  posted on  2008-10-24   14:11:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: Jethro Tull (#33)

When I heard if this, I thought, 'Morten Downey Jr' as I heard of it during the Democratic Underground discussion on how the 'B' was backward as if done in a mirror unthinkingly.

I thought of this in terms of one grass roots level person doing this and being responsible for this, not the McCain campaign. That is what I thought of this.

I have a job, and have been working in the Obama campaign, so I have been away. I have not have had as much time to read on the Internet or check out forums all that much. But worry, I miss all of you too.


"You only have power over people so long as you don't take everything away from them. But when you've robbed a man of everything he's no longer in your power -- he's free again. Alexander Solzhenitsyn

Ferret Mike  posted on  2008-10-24   14:15:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: Jethro Tull (#33)

"If he weren't black..."

Actully he is human colored, just like you or I.


"You only have power over people so long as you don't take everything away from them. But when you've robbed a man of everything he's no longer in your power -- he's free again. Alexander Solzhenitsyn

Ferret Mike  posted on  2008-10-24   14:17:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: Ferret Mike (#36)

Actully he is human colored, just like you or I.

Hmmmm.....well, why on earth does he describe his grandmother as a typical white woman? And himself as black?? Human color??? You're funny :P

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-10-24   14:25:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: Jethro Tull (#37)

Human color??? You're funny :P

Hue' man ...

There is no honor in bending one's knee to the banking elites that are robbing the children you claim to love of their future. Soon they'll convince those very same children that you deserve to be eliminated ... and they may be right.

noone222  posted on  2008-10-24   14:34:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: noone222 (#38)

Hue' man ...

dye' bolicle

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-10-24   14:36:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: Jethro Tull (#39)

I hear that the tree huggers are trying to get their hero's name changed to "BRANCH" from Barach.

[He'll never be a Bush though]

There is no honor in bending one's knee to the banking elites that are robbing the children you claim to love of their future. Soon they'll convince those very same children that you deserve to be eliminated ... and they may be right.

noone222  posted on  2008-10-24   14:50:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: Rotara (#5)

Saving for later read.


I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies. If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around [the banks] will deprive the people of all property until their children wake-up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered. The issuing power should be taken from the banks and restored to the people, to whom it properly belongs. —Thomas Jefferson, 1802

farmfriend  posted on  2008-10-24   20:16:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: Elliott Jackalope (#3)

Don't think for one moment it can't happen here.

Some people actually think that we are immune to evil. They think that there is some mystical magical power that keeps evil people from gaining power and doing evil things here in the USA.

I shall not vote for evil, lesser or otherwise.
Body Art Cobleskill, NY

Critter  posted on  2008-10-24   22:12:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: Critter (#42)

Yes. A ridiculous theory, isn't it?

echo5sierra  posted on  2008-10-27   16:48:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: Ferret Mike (#31)

I served nine years in the military and have a college education. I have earned the right to my opinion, and know how to form a very informed one as I have here as to whom I support of these two men for president.

You're a Mutha Forkin L-I-A-R who lost *ALL* honor the minute you decided to suck World Socialist c*ck. Your service now means NOTHING. You've chosen a Globalist-Marxist America hater to pimp for. You deserve what you get. GFY, ferret.

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2008-10-27   22:20:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: Rotara (#44)

And your whore, bitch mom fucked a cowardly asshole into the world, fuck off.


"You only have power over people so long as you don't take everything away from them. But when you've robbed a man of everything he's no longer in your power -- he's free again. Alexander Solzhenitsyn

Ferret Mike  posted on  2008-10-30   23:19:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: Ferret Mike (#45)

Did your little girly Communist Traitor feewings get hurtsy there cs ?

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2008-10-30   23:31:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: Rotara (#46)

Did yours'? You are projecting with a projectile vomit oriented mind.


"You only have power over people so long as you don't take everything away from them. But when you've robbed a man of everything he's no longer in your power -- he's free again. Alexander Solzhenitsyn

Ferret Mike  posted on  2008-10-30   23:35:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#48. To: Ferret Mike (#45)

And your whore, bitch mom fucked a cowardly asshole into the world, fuck off.

Hey weasel

Did you marry that bitch you made a mudboy with or did the state have to pay for another mulatto bastard?

It's the second mouse that gets the cheese

Flintlock  posted on  2008-10-30   23:36:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: Ferret Mike (#47)

Did yours'? You are projecting with a projectile vomit oriented mind.

You're a L-Y-I-N-G Commie Fukktard, so I'll take it with .01/salt.

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2008-10-30   23:38:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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