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Title: vitamin C therapy might turn out to be a very effective way to fight cancer
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URL Source: http://www.healthiertalk.com
Published: Oct 27, 2008
Author: Jenny Thompson
Post Date: 2008-10-27 14:33:47 by richard9151
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You know what the good folks of the mainstream medical community really hate? They hate the idea that vitamin C therapy might turn out to be a very effective way to fight cancer.

Can you blame them? When you've devoted your career to the idea that expensive chemicals are the only valid treatment for disease, you sure don't want to see some "natural" therapy come along and eek out a thin sliver of the cancer business.

That's why we'll continue to see research devoted to throwing a wet blanket on all this talk about cancer-fighting benefits of vitamin C. But let's not ignore this research, because it only helps illustrate how weak the negative arguments really are.


Fear factor

"Vitamin C Reduces Benefits of Cancer Drugs"

That was a typical headline you might have seen in the wide reporting of a recent study from the Memorial Sloan-Kettering Cancer Center.

Now, Sloan-Kettering is a "world-renowned organization dedicated to the progressive control and cure of cancer." So when Sloan-Kettering researchers offer up findings they say "support the hypothesis" that vitamin C supplementation may have a detrimental affect on cancer treatment, people are going to sit up and listen.

And I hope they listen very closely – close enough to hear the hogwash.

First of all, this old argument that antioxidants disrupt chemotherapy has one major flaw: diet. Chemotherapy creates free radicals that attack cancer cells. Antioxidants (the argument goes) subvert chemotherapy by subverting free radicals. So let's say your diet consists of a large variety of whole, fresh fruits and vegetables. A diet like that will be abundant in antioxidants. So during chemotherapy, should you change your diet and eat all your meals at McDonald's to avoid antioxidant intake?

It's preposterous.


Mighty thin stuff

The Sloan Kettering study is actually a two-parter. In part one, a lab study, researchers exposed cancer cells to DHA (which they say is the form of vitamin C that reaches cells) while other cancer cells were unexposed. When several types of cancer drugs were applied to the cells, the drugs were less effective in killing DHA-treated cells. In part two, mice induced with cancer were given vitamin C, then chemotherapy, which was less effective compared to mice that were not given vitamin C.

Okay, let's start with the mouse, which is one of many animals whose bodies naturally produce vitamin C. You and I, our bodies don't produce vitamin C. But mice do, so any vitamin C study involving mice really has no bearing at all on what vitamin C does in a human body.

In an editorial in The Gazette (a Montreal newspaper), McGill University cancer researcher L. John Hoffer, M.D., shot down part one of the SK research, noting that DHA was mixed with cells "in a concentration that never exists in nature."

Dr. Hoffer goes on to note the 23 studies in which vitamin C has inhibited or killed cancer cells. In 13 of those studies, vitamin C (sometimes coupled with other antioxidants) actually INCREASED the efficacy of chemotherapy. Some of those studies also showed that noncancerous cells were protected.

In addition, Dr. Hoffer cites nearly 20 clinical trials in which antioxidant supplementation didn't compromise chemotherapy, while several trials showed a clear benefit.

And the slammer: In one study where vitamin C improved chemo efficacy, added DHA decreased the benefit.

Dr. Hoffer closes his editorial with a comment that I hope reaches every editor who OK'd a headline about vitamin C reducing chemo benefits: "Flawed reports…alarm and mislead patients and can undermine the credibility of the serious and valid clinical research that is so necessary to improve cancer therapy."

www.healthiertalk.com

Sources:

"Vitamin C Antagonizes the Cytotoxic Effects of Antineoplastic Drugs" Cancer Research, Vol. 68, No. 19, 10/1/08, cancerres.aacrjournals.org "Jury Still Out on the Effect of Vitamin C on Chemotherapy" L. John Hoffer, The Gazette, 10/7/08, canada.com

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#1. To: richard9151 (#0)

In one study where vitamin C improved chemo efficacy, added DHA decreased the benefit.

Curious about the DHA...

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Lod  posted on  2008-10-27   15:19:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: richard9151 (#0)

You know what the good folks of the mainstream medical community really hate? They hate the idea that vitamin C therapy might turn out to be a very effective way to fight cancer.

These ideas have been out there since the 60's and we have still done little research on these homeopathic cures. Instead, the DEA FDA etc has taken vitamins and herbs away, calling them DRUGS, while simultaneously failing to stop the importation of polluted ingredients (all should stop) from China. Hypocrisy in action...kinda like making ganga illegal while allowing ourselves to kill ourselves with alcohol instead.

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IndieTX  posted on  2008-10-27   15:34:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: IndieTX (#2)

It's all about money and profits. That's all that matters. Good for the bottom line, bad for pretty much everything else.

Gold and silver are REAL money, paper is but a promise.

Elliott Jackalope  posted on  2008-10-27   18:49:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: richard9151 (#0)

Thank you for this article. I used to do cancer research (as a grad student @ MD Anderson's facility in Smithville, TX.) What you have presented here underscores one of the main reasons I left grad school; I wanted to ACTUALLY make a difference, not just play with molecular biology. (My major professor often lamented that we couldn't get funding to study the benefits of (for example) taking vitamin C to PREVENT cancer--something that would have been far more important to the general population of his native Poland than some new and expensive drug which they would probably not be able to afford anyway. (and by extension, people of moderate means everywhere.) Kudos to Dr. Hoffer from McGill. What utter nonsense to try to make vitamin C a villain here!

I now work as an acupuncturist/herbalist and we STILL have to contend with Big Pharma/FDA trying to block our access to herbs, some of which have already shown promise in treating cancer (in Japan and China.) I'm still mad about Ma Huang (ephedra)...

mangomuffin2  posted on  2008-10-27   20:53:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: mangomuffin2 (#4)

hi mango, welcome, and thanks for your contribution to this!

christine  posted on  2008-10-27   21:09:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: mangomuffin2 (#4)

Thank you for this article.

You are entirely welcome, and I understand your feelings exactly. I have been writing and reading about this type of material for more than 25 years, and the only problem is the government and the rules made to benefit the pharma industry. Glad to see you woke up also!

When a man who is honestly mistaken hears the truth, he will either quit being mistaken or cease to be honest.

richard9151  posted on  2008-10-27   21:44:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: christine (#5)

hi mango, welcome, and thanks for your contribution to this!

Sorry...I am new to this...I never realized that there was a way to reply back, not originally getting the concept of the "ping" list. Thanks (belatedly) for the welcome!

mangomuffin2  posted on  2008-11-16   15:33:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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