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Title: Biden Compares Obama to Lincoln, Jefferson -- Not Marx
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URL Source: http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/1 ... -obama-lincoln-jefferson-marx/
Published: Oct 27, 2008
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Post Date: 2008-10-27 16:30:06 by christine
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Joe Biden on Monday compared Barack Obama to Thomas Jefferson, John F. Kennedy, Abraham Lincoln and Franklin Roosevelt, and he said a less savory comparison to Karl Marx is completely off the mark. Biden, whose comments on Marx referenced an uncomfortable interview with a Florida anchorwoman last week, stressed that his Obama is a genuine force for change. As proof, Democratic vice presidential candidate pointed to the kind of attacks that have historically been directed at new leaders with new ideas. "The defenders of the status quo have always tried to tear down those who would change our nation for the better," Biden said. "They said Thomas Jefferson wasn't ... a real Christian. That was the essence of the campaign against him. Well, does that sound familiar?" he said. "Ladies and gentlemen, they said Abraham Lincoln ... wanted to take away individual rights. Ladies and gentlemen, they said Franklin Roosevelt would destroy the American system of life. Sound familiar? And ladies and gentlemen, they said that John F. Kennedy was, quote, 'a dangerous choice in difficult times.' ... Sound familiar?" The Delaware senator spoke to a crowd in Greenville, N.C., as the Democratic ticket begins to make its closing argument in the presidential race. Biden said the attacks are "built on lies which are the last resort of those who have nothing new to offer. And that's where we find ourselves." Biden attempted to shore up his point by mentioning the interview he gave with Orlando-based WFTV on Thursday. Anchorwoman Barbara West quoted Marx and asked Biden how Obama's claim that he wants to "spread the wealth" wasn't Marxist. Biden asked West if she was joking. Afterward, the Obama campaign cut off interviews with the station, canceling an appearance by Biden's wife, Jill. On Monday Biden took another shot at the station. "I was on a television station the other day doing a satellite feed to a major network in Florida, and the anchor quotes Karl Marx, and says in a sense, 'Isn't Barack Obama Karl Marx?'" Biden said. "You know, I mean, folks, this stuff you're hearing, this stuff you're hearing in this campaign, some of it's pretty ugly. And some of the innuendo is pretty ugly." John McCain has used the charge that Obama wants to spread wealth rather than create it as a centerpiece of his campaign in its closing days. Obama on Monday rejected those charges. The Illinois senator, however, made a few references to his brushes with socialist activists during his early days in his autobiography, "Dreams From My Father. " Describing his time at Occidental College, he wrote: "To avoid being mistaken for a sellout, I chose my friends carefully. The more politically active black students. The foreign students. The Chicanos. The Marxist professors and structural feminists." Writing about his time at Columbia University, he wrote that he went to the East Village for "the socialist conferences I sometimes attended at Cooper Union." Obama said Monday his economic philosophy today centers on protecting and empowering American workers. "John McCain calls this socialism. I call it opportunity, and there's nothing more American than that," Obama said.
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#1. To: christine (#0)
Excuse me while I ran in the bathroom to throw up.
Freepers: hearts full of hate and cowardice, and skulls full, to quote a favorite saying of one of their favorite cowards, of mush.
Good thing Biden has a big mouth as he likes to put both feet in at the same time. Jefferson is the only one that gets a pass. Lincoln had a socialist admirer in Karl Marx that wrote him letters of admiration for jailing people without cause and defying the Constitution. God, Biden is dumb. Lincoln was taken out. Roosevelt was a socialist that nearly was gunned down a month after taking office. And Kennedy was taken out. One has to wonder if Biden ever thinks before he puts his feet in his mouth???? P.S. Roosevelts gunner was a hung a month later, Lincolns was shot by the Army and Kennedys was gunned down in police custody.
On Monday Biden took another shot at the station. "I was on a television station the other day doing a satellite feed to a major network in Florida, and the anchor quotes Karl Marx, and says in a sense, 'Isn't Barack Obama Karl Marx?'" Biden said. "You know, I mean, folks, this stuff you're hearing, this stuff you're hearing in this campaign, some of it's pretty ugly. And some of the innuendo is pretty ugly." Anyone care to diagram that? :)
And they write innumerable books; being too vain and distracted for silence: seeking every one after his own elevation, and dodging his emptiness. - T. S. Eliot
Joe Biden doesn't know squat about history. Did you hear his quote last month when he said that Roosevelt got on TV in 1929 and explained the market crash to America?
Ahmadinejad in 2008! That's open to dispute. ; )
Ahmadinejad in 2008! blue... When I read this I could not believe that Biden is totally lost, that he is running a mouth with no brain attached.
History tells us that Marx was a great admirer of Lincoln because of the way he ran roughshod over the citizens. He wrote letters to Lincoln, Lincoln in 1848 advocated revolution at the same time as Marx. Biden is sure trying to set the stage for something.
You say it, Joe, so it must be true. /roflmfao / And your comparisons of Obama and Lincoln, ominously, may be spot on, since Lincoln was the first to suspend human rights. We all know the messiah is pro-war, pro-zion and pro-policestate (sic).
Law Enforcement Against Prohibition "Corporation: An entity created for the legal protection of its human parasites, whose sole purpose is profit and self-perpetuation." © IndieTx This same dumb@$$ (Biden) said that Roosevelt went on TV when the stock market crashed back in the Depression. Stupid cs. Is it a requirement to "serve" in the Senate to be so stupid that normal people wonder how you find your way to "work"?
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. James... Are you inferring Bidet may not be qualified to be President????
Well yeah, he MAY not be--and it is pretty certain that Obummer isn't because if there was no problem with his birth certificate he would have produced it a month ago (or longer). So, on the D side you have a guy who is most likely a citizen of Kenya, a moron who thinks that Federal Deficit Russianvelt got on a non existent TV to explain the stock market crash to people. On the R side you have a Manchurian candidate in McCain and a nice looking woman who MIGHT be a good candidate for VP IF she was on the ticket with a real American, someone like Ron Paul. I am afraid her association with McCain and his ilk will ruin her if she wasn't already ruined when he picked her. But have you ever seen it look any worse? An election where the best person running (Chuck Baldwin) has as much chance of winning as I do--and of the ones who the establishment has chosen, not even one of them would make a good President, or so it seems. Makes me sick to think about it.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. "I was on a television station the other day doing a satellite feed to a major network in Florida, and the anchor quotes Karl Marx, and says in a sense, 'Isn't Barack Obama Karl Marx?'" Biden said THE GUILTY DOG HOWLS FIRST!!! Ha ha he said it..
or is it Indonesia (Barry Soetoro)
Well, the reason I said that he was likely a citizen of Kenya is because that is probably where he was born. His grandmother, the one that he apparently liked and didn't throw under the bus like he did ol' whitey out in Hawaii, said he was born there. And iirc a half brother and sister also said he was born there in Kenya. Whether he is a Kenyan or Indonesian, assuming that he actually is one or the other, he is still ineligible to be President of this country.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
#2. To: christine, all (#0)
Joe Biden on Monday compared Barack Obama to Thomas Jefferson, John F. Kennedy, Abraham Lincoln and Franklin Roosevelt, and he said a less savory comparison to Karl Marx is completely off the mark.
#3. To: christine (#0)
#4. To: christine (#0)
Everyone agrees that unanimity is hard to find.
#5. To: Cynicom (#2)
Kennedys was gunned down in police custody.
Everyone agrees that unanimity is hard to find.
#6. To: bluegrass (#4)
#7. To: Dakmar, bluegrass, christine, all (#3)
#8. To: christine (#0)
(Edited)
Joe Biden on Monday compared Barack Obama to Thomas Jefferson, John F. Kennedy, Abraham Lincoln and Franklin Roosevelt, and he said a less savory comparison to Karl Marx is completely off the mark.
"There is no 'legitimate' Corporation by virtue of its very legal definition and purpose."
-- IndieTx
#9. To: christine (#0)
Biden said the attacks are "built on lies which are the last resort of those who have nothing new to offer. And that's where we find ourselves."
Lord Acton
#10. To: James Deffenbach (#9)
#11. To: Cynicom (#10)
Lord Acton
#12. To: christine, bluegrass (#0)
On Monday Biden took another shot at the station.
#13. To: James Deffenbach (#11)
likely a citizen of Kenya
#14. To: christine (#13)
Lord Acton
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