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Title: Miss., Ala. counties have more voters than adults
Source: AP - google
URL Source: http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5 ... o2VlRbobowNpmkhQ8gE-wD94136482
Published: Oct 25, 2008
Author: EMILY WAGSTER PETTUS
Post Date: 2008-10-28 14:00:40 by Rotara
Keywords: WAGSTER
Views: 373
Comments: 30

JACKSON, Miss. (AP) — More than a third of Mississippi counties have more registered voters than residents old enough to cast a ballot, according to an Associated Press analysis.

In addition to providing ammunition for people who say the voting system is vulnerable to fraud, the flabby voting rolls may make it difficult to accurately determine turnout for the Nov. 4 presidential election.

"There is no reason in the world why some of these counties should have more registered voters than they have living, breathing people," Mississippi Senate Elections Committee Chairman Terry Burton said.

Despite the inflated voter rolls, "it's important not to leap to the conclusion that this means there have been many illegitimate voters," said Adam Skaggs, an attorney at the Brennan Center for Justice at New York University School of Law.

He said the bigger problem — in Mississippi and across the U.S. — is that people have not registered at all or don't know they have been purged from the rolls.

In Mississippi, AP's county-by-county analysis compared voter registration figures released Thursday by the Secretary of State's office with Census figures from 2000, which provide the latest and most detailed information for the entire state.

Twenty-nine of Mississippi's 82 counties had more registered voters than people of voting age. Alabama has a similar problem — The Birmingham News found that six of 67 counties there have more registered voters than people of voting age.

Mississippi and Alabama are heavily Republican states expected to choose John McCain over Democrat Barack Obama, though they have U.S. House and Senate races that could be close.

"The opportunity for fraud exists certainly if people are on the rolls that shouldn't be there," Burton said. "If there's one case of fraud, there's one too many."

He said people could theoretically vote, then go back and try to pass themselves off as people who have died, though he does not expect that. In Mississippi, only first-time voters who registered by mail must show identification. Without an ID requirement, election officials must rely on poll workers and voters to be honest.

In five Mississippi counties with inflated rolls, the discrepancy can be explained by rapid population growth. In the rest, the population has grown slowly or remained stagnant.

Larry Gardner, chairman of the Election Commissioners Association of Mississippi, attributed some inflated voter rolls to commissioners who "are not doing their job."

Gardner said in some counties, personality conflicts have led to power struggles between the circuit clerk and election commissioners. The circuit clerk, the county's chief elections officer, is supposed to help election commissioners purge the voter rolls. Gardner said some clerks have blocked commissioners from using county computers.

Secretary of State Delbert Hosemann's office compiled its own list of 24 counties with more registered voters than people of voting age. All are also on AP's list.

Hosemann said his staff has been working with election commissioners, showing them, for example, how to check Health Department records so they can purge dead voters' names.

But because of Mississippi's history of trying to suppress minority voting decades ago, the U.S. Justice Department must clear any changes in election laws or procedures. Some commissioners say they're reluctant to purge names because they don't want to run afoul of the department.

In the Jackson suburb of Madison County earlier this year, election commissioner Sue Sautermeister put more than 10,000 names on a list of inactive voters, a step short of purging. After complaints from other county and state officials, Hosemann's office restored them.


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#1. To: Rotara (#0)

Let me set the scene.

If McKooK wins, there will be turmoil throughout the land and the wail will be that the election was stolen, regardless if the win is by one or ten million votes.

If Obummer wins, MSM will glow with praise for the enlightenment of the American people having made a wise and judicious decision. Regardless if the win is by one or ten million votes.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-10-28   14:05:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Cynicom (#1)

Let me set the scene.

If McKooK wins, there will be turmoil throughout the land and the wail will be that the election was stolen, regardless if the win is by one or ten million votes.

If Obummer wins, MSM will glow with praise for the enlightenment of the American people having made a wise and judicious decision. Regardless if the win is by one or ten million votes.

No matter who wins, something's gonna burn. My guess would be the jungle. The burbs will put down sparks rather quickly I'd think.

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2008-10-28   14:08:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Cynicom (#1)

If McKooK wins, there will be turmoil throughout the land and the wail will be that the election was stolen, regardless if the win is by one or ten million votes.

If Obummer wins, MSM will glow with praise for the enlightenment of the American people having made a wise and judicious decision. Regardless if the win is by one or ten million votes.

Most people are desperately hoping for change. For better or for worse, they equate McCain with Bush and the status quo. They see Obama as a change agent. The fervor with which they dedicate themselves to the candidate is simply a reflection of the strength of the desire for change. Brings to mind the old axiom; "Be careful what you wish for".

duckhunter  posted on  2008-10-28   14:10:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Rotara, all (#2)

If Obummer loses by ten votes, I would not want to be living in any major city.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-10-28   14:11:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Cynicom (#4)

If Obummer loses by ten votes, I would not want to be living in any major city.

The view from a high vantage point overlooking the city might be interesting though.

duckhunter  posted on  2008-10-28   14:12:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: duckhunter (#3)

"Be careful what you wish for".

Mass hysteria is a potent weapon in politics.

Johnson did it against Goldwater.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-10-28   14:13:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Cynicom (#1)

If Obummer wins, MSM will glow with praise for the enlightenment of the American people having made a wise and judicious decision.

I have never figured out why media types are left wing loons. Most of them especially in talk radio or TV are extremely well paid and are accustomed to enjoying the best of everything. What's in it for them if Obama wins and redistributes their wealth to the hood and has them get into universal health care queues with the masses? Are MSM lefties self-destructive in nature?

scrapper2  posted on  2008-10-28   14:13:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: duckhunter (#5)

The view from a high vantage point overlooking the city might be interesting though.

With a 30.06 in hand.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-10-28   14:14:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: duckhunter (#3)

Just like we desperately wanted a change from the bentmember...man, do I ever miss him.

Iran Truth Now!

Lod  posted on  2008-10-28   14:15:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: scrapper2 (#7)

I have never figured out why media types are left wing loons. Most of them especially in talk radio or TV are extremely well paid and are accustomed to enjoying the best of everything. What's in it for them if Obama wins and redistributes their wealth to the hood and has them get into universal health care queues with the masses? Are MSM lefties self-destructive in nature?

They like hanging out w/CFR-Trilateralist-Bilderberg-Bankster-Feral Reserve Globalist elite scum and talking utopia, where they lead the sheeple and live high on the lamb. ;-)

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2008-10-28   14:17:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: scrapper2 (#7)

Are MSM lefties self-destructive in nature?

No...Power is the ultimate lust.

Daughter worked for Gannett/USA Today for few years, finally changed professions.

Regardless of copy presented to the editor, ALL had to be changed to satisfy PC. The slightest hint of truth and fact that could be considered "offensive" had to be deleted or rewritten.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-10-28   14:18:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Rotara (#0)

Gardner said in some counties, personality conflicts have led to power struggles between the circuit clerk and election commissioners. The circuit clerk, the county's chief elections officer, is supposed to help election commissioners purge the voter rolls. Gardner said some clerks have blocked commissioners from using county computers.

That doesn't surprise me.

But because of Mississippi's history of trying to suppress minority voting decades ago, the U.S. Justice Department must clear any changes in election laws or procedures. Some commissioners say they're reluctant to purge names because they don't want to run afoul of the department.

In the Jackson suburb of Madison County earlier this year, election commissioner Sue Sautermeister put more than 10,000 names on a list of inactive voters, a step short of purging. After complaints from other county and state officials, Hosemann's office restored them.

Nor that. It also doesn't surprise me that AP is looking at heavily Republican areas. Were are the reports of Dem areas?


I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies. If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around [the banks] will deprive the people of all property until their children wake-up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered. The issuing power should be taken from the banks and restored to the people, to whom it properly belongs. —Thomas Jefferson, 1802

farmfriend  posted on  2008-10-28   14:19:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Cynicom (#8)

With a 30.06 in hand.

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2008-10-28   14:19:23 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: lodwick (#9)

.man, do I ever miss him.

Our only interest was deviant in that we wondered each day if Slick got a half Monica or a full Monica.

(Hey, I dont make this stuff up.)

Cynicom  posted on  2008-10-28   14:20:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: farmfriend (#12)

Were are the reports of Dem areas?

Are you saying that the AP has an agenda ?

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2008-10-28   14:21:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Rotara (#13)

Thanks...

My eyesight is not too good anymore, so I would just spray the area. We call 'em sound shots here in the hills. Deer hunting, you hear a sound, you blast away.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-10-28   14:22:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: lodwick (#9)

Just like we desperately wanted a change from the bentmember...man, do I ever miss him.

With each succeeding election, we get a worse set of anti-America bums offered to the electorate as candidates for the highest office in the land. The elites are becoming more arrogant and shameless as time goes on. At this rate of increased levels of bravado, the elites will offer us 2 lumps of coal as Pres candidates in 2012.

scrapper2  posted on  2008-10-28   14:23:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Cynicom (#8)

With a 30.06 in hand.

At least.

duckhunter  posted on  2008-10-28   14:24:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: scrapper2 (#17)

With each succeeding election, we get a worse set of anti-America bums offered to the electorate as candidates for the highest office in the land.

Scum rises to the top on swill.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-10-28   14:25:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: scrapper2. all (#17)

Right now, lumps of coal look pretty attractive to me.

Who in their right mind would want that 'job?'

Iran Truth Now!

Lod  posted on  2008-10-28   14:26:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: Rotara (#0)

"There is no reason in the world why some of these counties should have more registered voters than they have living, breathing people," Mississippi Senate Elections Committee Chairman Terry Burton said.

Yes there is a reason, Chairman Burton, it's called election fraud. But I assume most of these counties are black so we best not touch this one, eh?

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-10-28   14:28:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: Jethro Tull (#21)

Yes there is a reason, Chairman Burton, it's called election fraud.

I'm shocked, SHOCKED !!!

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2008-10-28   14:29:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: lodwick (#20)

Who in their right mind would want that 'job?'

that question stumps any sane person.

Only the arrogant lust for power could drive a person into wanting to be President.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-10-28   14:30:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: lodwick (#20)

Who in their right mind would want that 'job?'

Me

I'd appoint Barney Frank my Veep, pardon Hinckley, Squeaky, and Charlie, then resign and take the pension.

Aloha!

It's the second mouse that gets the cheese

Flintlock  posted on  2008-10-28   14:50:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: Flintlock (#24)

At least you have a plan.

Sounds good to me, but don't forget Sirhan.

Iran Truth Now!

Lod  posted on  2008-10-28   15:03:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: lodwick (#25)

but don't forget Sirhan.

I did. I'll put him on the list. Would you like to be Chief of Staff? You seem to be a natural. I'd flip you an Ambassadorship or defense contract on my way out of Dodge for your "service to the nation" too.

It's the second mouse that gets the cheese

Flintlock  posted on  2008-10-28   15:08:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: Flintlock, everyone (#26) (Edited)

It would be fun to implement RonPaul's goals of bringing the troops home from around the globe, abolishing the Fed, HHW, HUD, BATF, Education, and all the other unconstitutional crap in deecee.

Iran Truth Now!

Lod  posted on  2008-10-28   15:14:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: lodwick (#27)

abolishing the Fed, HHW, HUD, BATF, Education, and all the other unconstitutional crap in deecee.

Stroke of the pen, law of the land....cool, huh

It's the second mouse that gets the cheese

Flintlock  posted on  2008-10-28   15:39:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: Rotara (#15)

Are you saying that the AP has an agenda ?

LOL! Uh...no...of course not. (insert eye rolling smilie here)


I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies. If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around [the banks] will deprive the people of all property until their children wake-up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered. The issuing power should be taken from the banks and restored to the people, to whom it properly belongs. —Thomas Jefferson, 1802

farmfriend  posted on  2008-10-28   17:18:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: Rotara (#0)

My vote is equal to at least 10,000 average moron voters, so what's the problem?

Freepers: hearts full of hate and cowardice, and skulls full, to quote a favorite saying of one of their favorite cowards, of mush.

Turtle  posted on  2008-10-28   17:19:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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