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Neocon Nuttery See other Neocon Nuttery Articles Title: McCain and 'whack job' Palin come out fighting Source: London Times URL Source: http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/ne ... s_elections/article5032745.ece Published: Oct 28, 2008 Author: Tim Reid in Hershey Post Date: 2008-10-28 21:59:37 by robnoel Keywords: None Views: 1092 Comments: 49 Minutes after an aide to John McCain effectively described Sarah Palin as unhinged — the latest sign of open war inside the embattled Republican campaign — the two candidates were roared on to a stage yesterday in Pennsylvania, a state that is central to their ever narrowing path to victory. In the past week, aides to the Arizona senator have briefed reporters anonymously against Mrs Palin, describing the Alaska Governor as a “diva”. Yesterday a far harsher pejorative emerged: one called her a “whack job”, a term usually reserved for people who are dangerously unbalanced. www.timesonline.co.uk/tol...ctions/article5032745.ece Post Comment   Private Reply   Ignore Thread   Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest Begin Trace Mode for Comment # 34. #1. To: robnoel (#0) (Edited) There you go again. ~~Ronald Reagan Amazing how I don't see you going after TheBlackMessiah. I may have listened to you on short wave since you first started, but your wasting time blasting Palin over the others...intriguing. Will the black messiah be better for the value of your metal sales? This soap opera over the two-party Fraud is getting old. IndieTX  posted on  2008-10-28   22:09:52 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #2. To: IndieTX (#1) (Edited) Please give me a break with your "metal sales" BS based on what I've earned under Bush I should be rooting for the "wack-job" however if you can't see the fact that she is a full blown nut I can only conclude you don't know anything about American history ....I have a simple test for anyone seeking high office....know more about American history and the constitution than I do...I've watched her for the past month and she knows squate...as for Obama...America deserves him! robnoel  posted on  2008-10-28   22:24:31 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #3. To: robnoel (#2) as for Obama...America deserves him! A perverse sentiment that I agree with! Every American that votes for Obummer will reap what they sow!! It's high time that America get a full dose of his ideology for at least four years in order to drive them back to the words of the Founding Fathers. I welcome the wailing of the great unwashed, gullible, masses.... X-15  posted on  2008-10-28   22:31:22 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #6. To: X-15 (#3) There is a small chance if the Democrats do take control of all three branches that a renewed opposition party will form from the ruins of the GOP a long shot but the only shot my reservation is that to many generations of Americans have no problem with a "little" socialism...then we have the problem with the evangelicals who are so lost it is embaressing to call myself a christian....then the other side...Americans forced South Africans to accept a black president...so a black American president should be no problem...right! robnoel  posted on  2008-10-28   22:46:51 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #17. To: robnoel (#6) too many generations of Americans have no problem with a "little" socialism As we import more immigrants from Third World countries where they grew up with socialism, they tend to be Dem voters so little by little becomes a lot and the majority of voters look to vote in whichever political party promises them the most benefits.That's why the GOP has moved leftward and their politicians have become RINO in attitude. It's the only way they can satisfy their electorate and keep/win their seats. I see no resurrection of conservative values in the GOP. That party is now too heavily compromised. However saying that, if there is a long lasting global recession and the EU socialist inclined nations have a rough go of it and big govt entitlement programs fail, then there may be a return in the US electorate's mindset to admiring small gov't, self-sufficiency/self-reliance. scrapper2  posted on  2008-10-28   23:11:10 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #25. To: scrapper2 (#17) then there may be a return in the US electorate's mindset to admiring small gov't, self-sufficiency/self-reliance. When have the electorate ever had a mindset admiring smallgov't? Neither wing of our one party is for smaller gov't. I just laugh til my sides ache when the marxist-socialist parties fire salvos back and forth accusing each other of being tax ansd spenders. Both are! What's the difference whether one gives big entitlement programs while the other give major tax breaks to businesses and cost plus contracts to the MIC. We end up with a looted treasury either way. Of course if you are a neocon being taken care of, I can understand your supporting the pubbiebots or being a pubbiebot. And of course we have the demonwits with their hands out grubbing for any freebie that comes along. Then there are those of us who support the Ron Paul's that know the real score. Trouble is there are too many of you who still support the lesser of two evils. LACUMO  posted on  2008-10-29   0:26:41 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #30. To: LACUMO (#25) a. When have the electorate ever had a mindset admiring smallgov't? b. What's the difference whether one gives big entitlement programs while the other give major tax breaks to businesses and cost plus contracts to the MIC. c. Then there are those of us who support the Ron Paul's that know the real score. Trouble is there are too many of you who still support the lesser of two evils. a. pre-FDR b. actually Both parties give big domestic entitlement programs and BOTH parties believe in taxing businesses at a very high rate. In fact, the USA has one of the highest corporate tax rates in the Western world. Ye old corporate tax stone has been squeezed dry and that's why many US firms are re-locating their head offices to business friendly international locations. www.taxfoundation.org/publications/show/22917.html Currently, the average combined federal and state corporate tax rate in the U.S. is 39.3 percent, second among OECD countries to Japan's combined rate of 39.5 percent. When compared to other OECD countries: * 24 U.S. states have a combined corporate tax rate higher than top-ranked Japan. * 32 states have a combined corporate tax rate higher than third-ranked Germany. * 46 states have a combined corporate tax rate higher than fourth-ranked Canada. * All 50 states have a combined corporate tax rate higher than fifth-ranked France. c. I'm not sure if you are using the rhetorical "you" in your judgment but let me put you on notice one last time, I am a Ron Paul supporter. Otherwise I vote against incumbency - I could care less what party my vote supports re: the House and Senate as long as it is anti-incumbency. scrapper2  posted on  2008-10-29   2:13:16 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #33. To: scrapper2 (#30) In fact, the USA has one of the highest corporate tax rates in the Western world. Ye old corporate tax stone has been squeezed dry and that's why many US firms are re- According to our Constitution, corporate taxes are the only taxes allowed. The individual income tax is illegal. The cop out is when good citizen voters like yourself come to the aid of the corpoations who have bought and paid for our government, lock, stock, and barrell. The corporate tax rate keeps getting lowered and we end up paying more of the illgal individual income taxes. If the corporations were paying their fair share, the criminal CEO's wouldn't be ripping off the stockholders and wouldn't be receiving all those golden parachutes when they leave the company aftyer raping and pilliaging it. American corporations became GIANTS even when they were paying their fair share of taxes. They were the envy of the world. Now that they are in total control of the pols, of us , and many foreign countries, we are screwed paying illegal taxes. They control the economy and make it possible for the crazy zaney pols to pass all that entitlement legislation to counter all the damage they(corporations) have done to individuals income. We have what we have because it is what the corporations have foisted upon us. When you are out of work and there are little hungry bellies crying out for some food, then it is easy to see how you would support entitlements like unemployment, social security, etc. We see corporations reneging on pension plans that were negotiated with the workers. Thank God there is soial security becaus the way things are going, that might be all a person has to live on. Corporatins aren't ashamed to steal and run of with private pension money and then the government has to absorb that pension liability. We need a total collapse of our economy and need to start over by taxing the hell outta the corporations and putting the asses of their criminal CEO's and board members in jail. ....and most of all we need to educate the voters who keep on buying into their chicanery and keep voting for candidates put up by the corporate masters. Then maybe we can do away with all the entitlements, including even the massive corporate entitlements. LACUMO  posted on  2008-10-29   9:43:45 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #34. To: LACUMO (#33) (Edited) According to our Constitution, corporate taxes are the only taxes allowed. The individual income tax is illegal. The cop out is when good citizen voters like yourself come to the aid of the corpoations who have bought and paid for our government, lock, stock, and barrell. The corporate tax rate keeps getting lowered and we end up paying more of the illgal individual income taxes. If the corporations were paying their fair share, the criminal CEO's wouldn't be ripping off the stockholders and wouldn't be receiving all those golden parachutes when they leave the company aftyer raping and pilliaging it. Did you not understand the statistics I provided you? It has nothing to do about my coming "to the aid" (????) of corporations. I was simply INFORMING YOU that we have one of the highest corporate tax rates in the Western developed world. And that we can't continue to raise corporate tax rates or we will chase more businesses to other more tax-friendly nations than we have already. It's businesses that employ people - got it? People need jobs - not entitlements. Your perspective is of a retired person, but our nation's economy depends on jobs not entitlements. And in fact one might say that it's the out of balance entitlements with employment productivity - goods and services - that is bringing our nation down. I would agree with you that the salaries and stock options and Golden Parachutes that are paid to corporate executives is excessive but these companies are private and they make their own rules on corporate perks. What do you want to happen - for Big Gov't to take over businesses in the USA so we can outlaw executive perks? Thanks but no thanks. scrapper2  posted on  2008-10-29   11:24:51 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   Replies to Comment # 34. #35. To: scrapper2 (#34) Did you not understand the statistics I provided you? It has nothing to do about my coming "to the aid" (????) of corporations. I was simply INFORMING YOU that we have one of the highest corporate tax rates in the Western developed world. Did you not understand that corporate taxes are the only taxes allowed by our Constitution? Apparently you didn't get it. Call it what you want but you are coming down directly in defense of corporate entitlements. We should have high corporate taxes. Since they are the only tax allowed by our Constitution. Somebody gotta pay to run the country and pay off their owned politicans. If we weren't paying such high illegal income taxes, we wouldn't need all those entitlements. When over 50% of our earnings are taken away through all the taxes at all levels, there isn't much left to get by on. I'm sorry you don't have the mental capacity to grasp that I am not only talking about retirees, but all the people. You on the other hand, make no misconceptions when you unequivably support more and more corporate welfare(entitlements). Maybe we just outta let the corporations pay no tax, corrupt whatever politicans they want to, and simply furnish us with a company store, a company house, and no pay whatsoever. No entitelements or benefits either. That would probably be more to your liking. Just think! If we get sick we can either heal ourselves or die. Then we won't be usless eaters. Tax the hell outta the corporations and they won't have money to throw around and corrupt the government. If corporations paid their fair share, we might have enough money to live within our means and not need handouts (entitlements).. No more corporate welfare (entitlements). LACUMO  posted on  2008-10-29 11:44:38 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   End Trace Mode for Comment # 34. Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest

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