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Title: Obama Must Stand Up Now or Step Down
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URL Source: http://www.newswithviews.com/Vieira/edwin84.htm
Published: Oct 29, 2008
Author: Edwin Vieira
Post Date: 2008-10-29 13:46:02 by christine
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America is facing potentially the gravest constitutional crisis in her history. Barack Obama must either stand up in a public forum and prove, with conclusive documentary evidence, that he is “a natural born Citizen” of the United States who has not renounced his American citizenship—or he must step down as the Democratic Party’s candidate for President of the United States—preferably before the election is held, and in any event before the Electoral College meets. Because, pursuant to the Constitution, only “a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States at the time of the Adoption of th[e] Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President” (Article II, Section 1, Clause 4). And Obama clearly was not “a Citizen of the United States at the time of the Adoption of th[e] Constitution.” Whether the evidence will show that Obama is, or is not, “a natural born Citizen” who has never renounced his American citizenship is an open question. The arguments on both sides are as yet speculative. But Obama’s stubborn refusal to provide what he claims is “his own” country with conclusive proof on that score compels the presumption that he knows, or at least strongly suspects, that no sufficient evidence in his favor exists. After all, he is not being pressed to solve a problem in quantum physics that is “above his pay grade,” but only asked to provide the public with the original copy of some official record that establishes his citizenship. The vast majority of Americans could easily do so. Why will Obama not dispel the doubts about his eligibility—unless he can not? Now that Obama’s citizenship has been seriously questioned, the burden of proof rests squarely on his shoulders. The “burden of establishing a delegation of power to the United States * * * is upon those making the claim.” Bute v. Illinois, 333 U.S. 640, 653 (1948). And if each of the General Government’s powers must be proven (not simply presumed) to exist, then every requirement that the Constitution sets for any individual’s exercise of those powers must also be proven (not simply presumed) to be fully satisfied before that individual may exercise any of those powers. The Constitution’s command that “[n]o Person except a natural born Citizen * * * shall be eligible to the Office of President” is an absolute prohibition against the exercise of each and every Presidential power by certain unqualified individuals. Actually (not simply presumptively or speculatively) being “a natural born Citizen” is the condition precedent sine qua non for avoiding this prohibition. Therefore, anyone who claims eligibility for “the Office of President” must, when credibly challenged, establish his qualifications in this regard with sufficient evidence. In disposing of the lawsuit Berg v. Obama, which squarely presents the question of Obama’s true citizenship, the presiding judge complained that Berg “would have us derail the democratic process by invalidating a candidate for whom millions of people voted and who underwent excessive vetting during what was one of the most hotly contested presidential primary in living memory.” This is exceptionally thin hogwash. A proper judicial inquiry into Obama’s eligibility for “the Office of President” will not deny his supporters a “right” to vote for him—rather, it will determine whether they have any such “right” at all. For, just as Obama’s “right” to stand for election to “the Office of President” is contingent upon his being “a natural born Citizen,” so too are the “rights” of his partisans to vote for him contingent upon whether he is even eligible for that “Office.” If Obama is ineligible, then no one can claim any “right” to vote for him. Indeed, in that case every American who does vote has a constitutional duty to vote against him.
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#158. To: James Deffenbach (#145)
Glad I read your post before I said EXACTLY the same thing. ;-)
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
Schwarzenegger/Palin '12
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
Oh, he must, must he? *geez* That ain't how it works in AmericaCorp, Inc. We don't get to pick the new CEO, THEY DO!
"Now I know what Jesus was going through!"__Aileen Wuornos
I don't believe Uncle Frank played with the booby team. More like he sat little Barry el Diablo on his lap and told him Commie stories. ahaha
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
Sealed ??
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
Calm down whitey !!!
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
I'm going to smack the shit out of you.
I'm going to smack the shit out of you. "If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
Hey, don't blame me. All I'm doihg is interpreting why robnoel has a chipped shoulder and wants US voters to suffer the negative consequences of a self-serving unqualified socialist punk.
Posted: October 26, 2008 9:54 pm Eastern By Jerome R. Corsi © 2008 WorldNetDaily Gov. Linda Lingle, R-Hawaii HONOLULU, Hawaii – Although the legitimacy of Sen. Barack Obama's birth certificate has become a focus of intense speculation – and even several lawsuits – WND has learned that Hawaii's Gov. Linda Lingle has placed the candidate's birth certificate under seal, and instructed the state's Department of Health to make sure no one in the press obtains access to the original document under any circumstances. The governor's office officially declined a request made in writing by WND in Hawaii to obtain a copy of the hospital-generated original birth certificate of Barack Obama. "It does not appear that Dr. Corsi is within any of these categories of persons with a direct and tangible interest in the birth certificate he seeks," wrote Roz Makuala, manager of constituent services in the governor's office, in an e- mailed response to a WND request seeking the information. Those listed as entitled to obtain a copy of an original birth certificate include the person born, or "registrant" according to the legal description from the governor's office, the spouse or parent of the registrant, a descendant of the registrant, a person having a common ancestor with the registrant, a legal guardian of the registrant, or a person or agency acting on behalf of the registrant. WND was told the official reason for denial of access to Obama's birth certificate would be authority granted pursuant to Section 338-18 of the Hawaii Revised Statutes, a provision the anonymous source claimed was designed to prevent identity theft. Still, the source told WND confidentially the motivation for withholding the original birth certificate was political, although the source refused to disclose whether there was any information on the original birth certificate that would prove politically embarrassing to Obama. The source also refused to answer WND's question whether the original document on file with the Department of Health was a hospital-generated birth certificate or a registration of birth that may have been filed subsequent to the birth. The anonymous source made clear the Hawaii Department of Health would immediately release Obama's original birth certificate, provided Obama requested the document be released, but the Department of Heath has received no such request from the senator or from anyone acting officially on his behalf. WND also found on microfilm in the Honolulu downtown public library a notice published under the "Births, Marriages, Deaths" section of the Honolulu Sunday Advertiser for August 13, 1961, on page B-6, noting: "Mr. and Mrs. Barack II Obama. 6085 Kalanianaole-Hwy, son, Aug. 4." In searching through the birth notices of the Honolulu Advertiser for 1961, WND found many birth notices were published between one and two weeks after the date of birth listed. The notice in the Honolulu Advertiser does not list the hospital where the Obama son was born or the doctor who delivered the baby. In a startling development, Obama's Kenyan grandmother has reportedly alleged she witnessed Obama's birth at the Coast Provincial Hospital in Mombasa, Kenya. Friday, U.S. Federal judge Richard Barclay Surrick, a Clinton appointee, dismissed a lawsuit brought by Pennsylvania attorney Phillip J. Berg who alleged Obama was not a U.S. "natural born" citizen and therefore ineligible for the presidency under the specifications of the U.S. Constitution, under Article II, Section 1. Berg told WND last week he does not have a copy of a Kenyan birth certificate for Obama that he alleges exists. In Kenya, WND was told by government authorities that all documents concerning Obama were under seal until after the U.S. presidential election on November 4. The Obama campaign website entitled "Fight the Smears" posts a State of Hawaii "Certificate of Live Birth" which is obviously not the original birth certificate generate by the hospital where Obama was born. "Fight the Smears" declares, "The truth is, Barack Obama was born in the state of Hawaii in 1961, a native citizen of the United States of America." Although the Obama campaign could immediately put an end to all the challenges by simply producing the candidate's original birth certificate, it has not done so. And the "Fight the Smears" website offers no explanation as to why Obama has refused to request, and make public, an original hospital-generated birth certificate which the Hawaii Department of Health may possess. SOURCE: http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=79174
Was Barry's typically white grandmother living on the island at the time of his birth and perhaps made the newspaper notification?
I don't know where you got that I am "blaming you" out of any post I have posted to you. If you think that I should have phrased it better because that wasn't my point at all.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. Wouldn't you think the most likely reason is because no such thing exists?
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. I feel you deserve a response and I will be the first one to admit I do have a chip on my shoulder caused over the years by watching the misery of those I left behind in Africa ..none of us from Africa do not have a personal story ...both my in laws were beaten to death for no other reason than a 19 inch black and white TV set. After making America my home for the past thirty years and seeing up close and personal the reasons why I lost a country actually two if you add in the countryof my birth Rhodesia,it is my contention that those same forces that destroyed my country are doing the same thing to America and my frustration lies in most not seeing this coming tradgery. Rather than being specific I painted with a wide brush wishing that those who forced this on Africa would get to experience the reality of what they created and I apologize to those I offended by wishing you all be punished for the crimes of a few. I see Africa's past as America's future ..this is something I would not wish on anyone I truly hope Americans wake up before long and reject the ideology of politcal correctness and return to principles that America was founded on. As for the debate on Obama I promised Christine that I would have Dr. Edwin Vieira on my show to debate the issue's he raised
I don't know. It would be interesting to know if birth announcements were provided by hospitals or proactively sought by the family. 'You know how white people will do you.' Phillip Berg gave an interview to FoxNews a couple of days ago. Not sure when or if it will air. h/t watcher@rmn Presidential Oaths of Office The information below is courtesy of the Architect of the Capitol. It has been compiled by the Office of the Curator from contemporary accounts and other sources in the files of the Architect of the Capitol. Each president recites the following oath, in accordance with Article II, Section I of the U.S. Constitution: "I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States." If in fact - Candidate Barack Hussein Obama - is a naturalized citizen of the nation of Kenya, and has prevented the discovery of this fact - via either the provision of false birth certificates or the the withholding of the actual documents that would in fact verify his birth in Kenya - then he is guilty - and profoundly so - of defrauding the American Electorate. He is likewise guilty of defrauding the Democratic Party. He has illegally petitioned the citizens of the United States to financially support his pursuit of the office of the Presidency - and in so doing - they have been fraudulently duped into providing him well over 200 Million dollars from both the private sector. While representing himself as fully qualified - to the best of his ability - to "preserve, protect and defend" the Constitution of the United States - he has shown himself to be in plain fact - completely opposed to the mandates regarding the eligibility of any candidate - the are clearly set down in the very document he claims he so deeply reveres that he would take an Oath to preserve, protect and defend! If in fact - he has lied to the American People in this fashion - he has severely disrupted the nation - the Democratic party - our Democratic System - and offended each and every single honest trusting citizen of our nation. If in fact - he has knowingly withheld the truth in these matters from the American People - not only should he NEVER be allowed to set foot in the White House as The Presidential Protector of our Constitution - but he should be in fact sentenced to the maximum penalty established by that Constitution and later - deported back to the nation of Kenya where he belongs. If in fact - it can be proven that members of the Democratic Party - likewise knowingly withheld the facts pertaining to the "ineligibility" of Candidate Barack Hussein Obama - then each and every one of them - so proven - should likewise be rewarded in the strictest manner possible - in accordance with the mandates of our Constitution. And finally - if in fact - the evidence is irrefutable - and no DA in the nation will press charges against those guilty of these crimes - then charges of Misprision of Felony - should be charged against each and every official who abrogates his or her duty in this regard. Respectfully Patrick Hedemark Also interesting: [snip] Another side note - John McCain was born in Collon, Panama. No one seems to be questioning his eligibility to be president, however. And the correct birth certificate he supposedly produced supports his foreign birth, thus his ineligibility - he wasn't born on a U.S. military base and his parents were legalized residents of Panama at the time. http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?read=134630 If the Supremes hear the case by Friday, perhaps both will be found ineligible for office. I remember a post that Bush has made preparations through March '09. One can read a lot into that.
Having lived on the 'net for more than a decade, I don't get the lack of curiosity some have regarding Barry. He's every bit as slippery as Clinton, and he was as dirty as an alley cat in the rain.
Yes. Beyond ineligibility, what more might the truth of it comprimise?
rob... Most of the time you can be and are a gentleman and in this case I applaud you.
Good heavens... So early in the morning.
They were paid. That explains alot. Political mercenaries. I'm game for believing mass psyschosis / hipnotism as well. But, you notice they are all on the same talking points all the time. All Palin all the time. They're scared of her. To my way of thinking, BO is the Marxist on the ticket (a DINO). McCain is the Democrat 'running as the Republican' as Bill Kristol put it. And Palin is the actual Republican. Before Palin, McCain was an easy mark. Since Palin, all manner of voodoo has been used to take her down. Note the post I put up earlier. Not a stretch to believe it at all, considering their tactics against Ron Paul.
Good Morning.
As a confirmation of your statement, one needs travel no farther than this forum. Attack Palin by accepting the most vulgar of terms that can be attached to any female as being justified by members of this forum. That was disgusting. Hillary being female was NEVER attacked in such a manner.
Good morning to you too!
Attack Palin by accepting the most vulgar of terms that can be attached to any female as being justified by members of this forum. That was disgusting. Hillary being female was NEVER attacked in such a manner. Sad but true. Believe me, women are watching this.
Beyond members of this forum, I recall only Fox as mentioning the vulgar attacks on Palin, not political attacks that are fair game, rather gender attacks of the basest type. MSM has been quiet as a mouse, consequently those T shirts and signs follow Palin from town to town with not a whisper of dissent.
MSM has been quiet as a mouse, consequently those T shirts and signs follow Palin from town to town with not a whisper of dissent. It reveals their true character. It's now well known that these people are useful idiots serving PTB interests. They'll get little sympathy when the tables are turned on them, and the game resets for the next level of depravity. The comments here about Palin have been disgusting, but confirming these people were likely paid, makes their motivation transparent. But there's more. Some just despise women and this was their chance to pile on.
If it can be proven that Obama is in fact a citizen of Kenya by virtue of being born there he should not even be allowed to set foot in the White House as a tourist, let alone President.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. James... There are several scenarios as to how this affair will end, none of them are good.
It MIGHT prove that the man his mama claims was baby daddy wasn't. Just sayin'.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. Obama should have to prove citizenship or take a hike. If it's found that neither Obama or McCain are eligible, they should be tossed from Congress and repay the taxpayers for the fraud.
Maybe mama wasn't sure.
Sounds good to me.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. Point taken. You could well be correct.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. Point taken. You could well be correct. It's likely a waste to busy ourselves with this, but it's important to note that Americans will take cheating as a virtue in elected professionals. Why all the shock over crooked bankers in the bailout anyway?
i've heard that more than 90% of americans do not believe the lone gun tale told by the government. not that it matters since they got away with it. so what's a little thing like citizenship matter? Russia has freed herself from Jewish supremacy. Some historians estimate 40- million citizens, mostly Orthodox Christians, went to early graves in the aftermath of the Bolshevik Revolution--this even before German troops invaded the former Soviet Union. I'm afraid America will learn the hard way with the Marxist Obama playing Lenin's role.
Life is a tragedy to those who feel, and a comedy to those who think.
My error. I apologize. I was tired and I mis-read your post.
After making America my home for the past thirty years and seeing up close and personal the reasons why I lost a country actually two if you add in the countryof my birth Rhodesia,it is my contention that those same forces that destroyed my country are doing the same thing to America and my frustration lies in most not seeing this coming tradgery. Rather than being specific I painted with a wide brush wishing that those who forced this on Africa would get to experience the reality of what they created and I apologize to those I offended by wishing you all be punished for the crimes of a few. I see Africa's past as America's future ..this is something I would not wish on anyone I truly hope Americans wake up before long and reject the ideology of politcal correctness and return to principles that America was founded on. As for the debate on Obama I promised Christine that I would have Dr. Edwin Vieira on my show to debate the issue's he raised Thank you for your post and for your honesty.
LOL, ah the man knows me well.
The Pope came to D.C. for a tour, and Sarah Palin was assigned to be his tour guide (don't question it, just go with it). They were going down the Potomac River in a boat when the Pope's funny hat blew off into the river. Sarah told the Secret Service to don't bother trying to grab it and told the Pope "Watch this!!" She stepped out of the boat and walked across the water on her high- heels and retrieved the hat to the astoninshment of all. The next day, the MSM reported that "Sarah Palin Can't Swim!!!".....
I'm not a lawyer, did not sleep at a HolInn last night, but can't resist such softballs. Depends on whether you have a "strict" "constructionist" view of the Constitution or whether you favor more "expansive" "penumbras". He may not be a natural, but he certainly is a functional citizen, groomed by the best schools and a short stint in a rather exclusive club in the USG. If functionality equals naturalness, then he's home free.
Hasn't that been absolutely amazing, disgusting. The sheer misogyny expressed perfectly expresses the scorn and disdain of the coasts for flyover country. The desire to have the approval of Europeans among many on the coasts is not surprising, considering that the English Monarchy is probably more popular in America than in old Blighty! And how low is it to make fun of a retarded baby. Even lower than that manly man, Rushbaugh, calling Chelsea Clinton a dog on his TV show in 1994. Sweet, a grown man demolishing a teenage girl!
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Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/LatestAnd most of us had absolutely nothing to do with it and despised the people here who caused it to happen. Sad indeed when someone wants all Americans to suffer because of what a few Americans did, or helped to do, to their country.
#159. To: James Deffenbach (#150)
If Obama is not an American citizen the people the "judge" is whining about are not losing any right to vote for him because he has no right to run!
#160. To: christine (#0)
Obama Must Stand Up Now or Step Down
#161. To: James Deffenbach (#152)
If you are interested do a Google search for "nude pics of Obama's mother in Frank Davis apartment." "Uncle Frank" may have been "baby daddy." That could be the reason Obummer refuses to show his real birth certificate.
#162. To: OliviaFNewton (#153)
Have we heard since the birth record was sealed after his visit to Hawaii?
#163. To: James Deffenbach (#154)
If I can be required to produce a vault version of my birth certificate to get a passport I don't know why he gets a pass when he is running for President.
#164. To: Rotara (#159)
Schwarzenegger/Palin '12
I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies. If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around [the banks] will deprive the people of all property until their children wake-up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered. The issuing power should be taken from the banks and restored to the people, to whom it properly belongs. —Thomas Jefferson, 1802
#165. To: farmfriend (#164)
Schwarzenegger/Palin '12
#166. To: James Deffenbach, robnoel (#145)
And most of us had absolutely nothing to do with it and despised the people here who caused it to happen. Sad indeed when someone wants all Americans to suffer because of what a few Americans did, or helped to do, to their country.
#167. To: Rotara (#162)
Sealed ??
#168. To: OliviaFNewton (#167)
#169. To: scrapper2 (#166)
Hey, don't blame me. All I'm doihg is interpreting why robnoel has a chipped shoulder and wants US voters to suffer the negative consequences of a self-serving unqualified socialist punk.
Lord Acton
#170. To: OliviaFNewton (#167)
And the "Fight the Smears" website offers no explanation as to why Obama has refused to request, and make public, an original hospital-generated birth certificate which the Hawaii Department of Health may possess.
Lord Acton
#171. To: scrapper2 (#144)
#172. To: Jethro Tull (#168)
Was Barry's typically white grandmother living on the island at the time of his birth and perhaps made the newspaper notification?
#173. To: OliviaFNewton (#172)
#174. To: James Deffenbach (#170)
Wouldn't you think the most likely reason is because no such thing exists?
#175. To: robnoel (#171)
Rather than being specific I painted with a wide brush wishing that those who forced this on Africa would get to experience the reality of what they created and I apologize to those I offended by wishing you all be punished for the crimes of a few.
#176. To: Jethro Tull (#173)
He's every bit as slippery as Clinton, and he was as dirty as an alley cat in the rain.
#177. To: Jethro Tull (#173)
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Having lived on the 'net for more than a decade, I don't get the lack of curiosity some have regarding Barry.
#178. To: OliviaFNewton (#177)
"It is like a trance. So what can break a trance? The only thing that can break the trance is the light of truth."
~ Canadian Philosopher John McMurtry as he comments on the psychological warfare that has afflicted us all
#179. To: OliviaFNewton, jethro tull (#177)
Before Palin, McCain was an easy mark. Since Palin, all manner of voodoo has been used to take her down.
#180. To: wudidiz (#178)
Good Morning.
#181. To: Cynicom (#179)
As a confirmation of your statement, one needs travel no farther than this forum.
#182. To: OliviaFNewton (#181)
#183. To: Cynicom (#182)
I recall only Fox as mentioning the vulgar attacks on Palin, not political attacks that are fair game, rather gender attacks of the basest type.
#184. To: OliviaFNewton (#172)
If in fact - he has knowingly withheld the truth in these matters from the American People - not only should he NEVER be allowed to set foot in the White House as The Presidential Protector of our Constitution - but he should be in fact sentenced to the maximum penalty established by that Constitution and later - deported back to the nation of Kenya where he belongs.
Lord Acton
#185. To: James Deffenbach (#184)
#186. To: OliviaFNewton (#174)
Beyond ineligibility, what more might the truth of it comprimise?
Lord Acton
#187. To: James Deffenbach (#184)
If it can be proven that Obama is in fact a citizen of Kenya by virtue of being born there he should not even be allowed to set foot in the White House as a tourist, let alone President.
#188. To: James Deffenbach (#186)
It MIGHT prove that the man his mama claims was baby daddy wasn't. Just sayin'.
#189. To: OliviaFNewton (#187)
Obama should have to prove citizenship or take a hike. If it's found that neither Obama or McCain are eligible, they should be tossed from Congress and repay the taxpayers for the fraud.
Lord Acton
#190. To: OliviaFNewton (#188)
Maybe mama wasn't sure.
Lord Acton
#191. To: James Deffenbach (#190)
#192. To: christine (#52)
The Zionists in the Star Chamber made Ame4rica believe Oswald was the lone asswassin of JFK. Obama's citzenship is no problem.
#193. To: James Deffenbach (#169)
I don't know where you got that I am "blaming you" out of any post I have posted to you. If you think that I should have phrased it better because that wasn't my point at all.
#194. To: robnoel (#171)
I feel you deserve a response and I will be the first one to admit I do have a chip on my shoulder caused over the years by watching the misery of those I left behind in Africa ..none of us from Africa do not have a personal story ...both my in laws were beaten to death for no other reason than a 19 inch black and white TV set.
#195. To: Rotara (#165)
I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies. If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around [the banks] will deprive the people of all property until their children wake-up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered. The issuing power should be taken from the banks and restored to the people, to whom it properly belongs. —Thomas Jefferson, 1802
#196. To: Cynicom (#179)
-Schweizerische Schuetzenzeitung (Swiss Shooting Federation) April, 1941
#197. To: rack42 (#117)
if the election of a non-"natural citizen" is not an injury to the Constitutional rights of all, then what is it?
#198. To: OliviaFNewton (#110)
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the vicious attacks on Palin and her children.
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