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Title: Obama Must Stand Up Now or Step Down
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URL Source: http://www.newswithviews.com/Vieira/edwin84.htm
Published: Oct 29, 2008
Author: Edwin Vieira
Post Date: 2008-10-29 13:46:02 by christine
Keywords: None
Views: 4346
Comments: 201

America is facing potentially the gravest constitutional crisis in her history. Barack Obama must either stand up in a public forum and prove, with conclusive documentary evidence, that he is “a natural born Citizen” of the United States who has not renounced his American citizenship—or he must step down as the Democratic Party’s candidate for President of the United States—preferably before the election is held, and in any event before the Electoral College meets. Because, pursuant to the Constitution, only “a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States at the time of the Adoption of th[e] Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President” (Article II, Section 1, Clause 4). And Obama clearly was not “a Citizen of the United States at the time of the Adoption of th[e] Constitution.”

Whether the evidence will show that Obama is, or is not, “a natural born Citizen” who has never renounced his American citizenship is an open question. The arguments on both sides are as yet speculative. But Obama’s stubborn refusal to provide what he claims is “his own” country with conclusive proof on that score compels the presumption that he knows, or at least strongly suspects, that no sufficient evidence in his favor exists. After all, he is not being pressed to solve a problem in quantum physics that is “above his pay grade,” but only asked to provide the public with the original copy of some official record that establishes his citizenship. The vast majority of Americans could easily do so. Why will Obama not dispel the doubts about his eligibility—unless he can not?

Now that Obama’s citizenship has been seriously questioned, the burden of proof rests squarely on his shoulders. The “burden of establishing a delegation of power to the United States * * * is upon those making the claim.” Bute v. Illinois, 333 U.S. 640, 653 (1948). And if each of the General Government’s powers must be proven (not simply presumed) to exist, then every requirement that the Constitution sets for any individual’s exercise of those powers must also be proven (not simply presumed) to be fully satisfied before that individual may exercise any of those powers. The Constitution’s command that “[n]o Person except a natural born Citizen * * * shall be eligible to the Office of President” is an absolute prohibition against the exercise of each and every Presidential power by certain unqualified individuals. Actually (not simply presumptively or speculatively) being “a natural born Citizen” is the condition precedent sine qua non for avoiding this prohibition. Therefore, anyone who claims eligibility for “the Office of President” must, when credibly challenged, establish his qualifications in this regard with sufficient evidence.

In disposing of the lawsuit Berg v. Obama, which squarely presents the question of Obama’s true citizenship, the presiding judge complained that Berg “would have us derail the democratic process by invalidating a candidate for whom millions of people voted and who underwent excessive vetting during what was one of the most hotly contested presidential primary in living memory.” This is exceptionally thin hogwash. A proper judicial inquiry into Obama’s eligibility for “the Office of President” will not deny his supporters a “right” to vote for him—rather, it will determine whether they have any such “right” at all. For, just as Obama’s “right” to stand for election to “the Office of President” is contingent upon his being “a natural born Citizen,” so too are the “rights” of his partisans to vote for him contingent upon whether he is even eligible for that “Office.” If Obama is ineligible, then no one can claim any “right” to vote for him. Indeed, in that case every American who does vote has a constitutional duty to vote against him.

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#17. To: christine (#0)

America is facing potentially the gravest constitutional crisis in her history. Barack Obama must either stand up in a public forum and prove, with conclusive documentary evidence, that he is “a natural born Citizen” of the United States....

We have had them install the fatherless son of an Arkansan prostitute, the most intellectually deficient spawn of the Bush crime family and now they are intending an even greater insult to the American people, the installation of an African Muslim Marxist type political puppet who is, in all likelihood, not even eligible to be president under the Constitution. Do you think the owners of this government are laughing their arses off at the present response of the American people as a whole?

eskimo  posted on  2008-10-29   14:39:16 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: eskimo (#17)

Just keep in mind that 'them' us very much 'us', because it's been a majority of those of 'us' who voted that got 'their' pick elected.

Oh, yes... the elections were rigged, I forgot. And so were ALL of them polls that were showing, even before the votes were cast, that a majority or a near majority of Americans were willing to vote for and get those awful people elected and then, RE-ELECTED.

It's very interesting.

a vast rightwing conspirator  posted on  2008-10-29   14:44:53 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#21)

Oh, yes... the elections were rigged, I forgot.

How could you forget that? That was secondary however to the fact that the choice was dumb puppet or dumb puppet.

eskimo  posted on  2008-10-29   14:55:43 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: eskimo (#27)

How could you forget that? That was secondary however to the fact that the choice was dumb puppet or dumb puppet.

The idiotlogical twins, Tweedledumb and Tweedledumber. Get it right. ;^)

James Deffenbach  posted on  2008-10-29   17:53:04 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#56. To: James Deffenbach (#50)

The idiotlogical twins,...

LOL! I like that.

eskimo  posted on  2008-10-29   18:20:56 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#64. To: eskimo (#56)

LOL! I like that.

Here is a little gif I would like to show Obama, McCain and all their supporters.

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It is truly a sad day in America when what most people have to choose from is one guy who was most likely born in Africa--if he wasn't why won't he show the vault form of his birth certificate?--and another guy who is probably a Manchurian Candidate and has never seen a military expenditure he didn't approve. They are both un-American to the core.

James Deffenbach  posted on  2008-10-29   18:39:59 ET  (1 image) Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#70. To: James Deffenbach (#64)

It is truly a sad day in America when what most people have to choose from is one guy who was most likely born in Africa--if he wasn't why won't he show the vault form of his birth certificate?--and another guy who is probably a Manchurian Candidate and has never seen a military expenditure he didn't approve. They are both un-American to the core.

While it's true that both Obama and McCain's political policies are un- American, McCain is eligible to run for the Oval office. Voters can reject McCain if they don't care for his policies.

But if Obama cannot prove his natural born US citizenship, he is then ineligible to run for President. And by filling out and signing a Statement of Candidacy, FEC form 2, with incomplete false erroneous information Obama would also be subject to penalties under 2USsection437g. Obama would be violating election law. He should not be throwing his hat in the ring. He should not be violating the trust of his party or the time of the electorate or showing such blatant disrespect for the US Constitution.

scrapper2  posted on  2008-10-29   19:18:05 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#79. To: scrapper2 (#70)

And by filling out and signing a Statement of Candidacy, FEC form 2, with incomplete false erroneous information Obama would also be subject to penalties under 2USsection437g.

Something tells me this would be a violation of Obama's civil rights and his affirmative action rights.

The DNC may cover for Obama, saying ya know, lots of black "chillun" ain't never heard uh no dam birf certificate" plus what you sposed to do ifn you ain't entirely sho who does da daddy really be ???

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