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Title: Sick to death of hearing about yo'mama and mcfruitcake
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Published: Oct 30, 2008
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Post Date: 2008-10-30 10:26:23 by PSUSA
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And it is not just here. Turn on the boob tube, and there they are. Read a newspaper, they are there too. Forums that arent even political, and who do you see? And all this is coming from people that slam wrestling as being staged. Unbelievable. At least wrestling can be entertaining.
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#26. To: Lady X (#25)
Gridlock Is Good.
It's a swell thing, but do it as an Indy, rather than from the child molester side of the aisle.
I still don't have an answer for you. Before you lose any more sleep over why he stayed in the pubbie party, I;ll pay for your call or telegram to him. I would hate to see you have a heartattack or stroke over what party he is in or remains in. You needn't tell me how disappointed you are in Pat Buchanan or Ron Paul's campaigns. I drove nearly 1000 miles putting up campaign signs for both of them and even worked the precints. I knew going in both of them had an uphill battle, but my love for this country overpowered my good senses. Feel free to critsize me of call me stupid if that will lessen your heartache for their unsuccessful campaigns. When I get called to the happy hunting ground, I won't have to tell a fibs to cover my ass when I am asked what I did to try and make a differenc. The best thing I can say and what I am most proud of is that I never compromised my principles or my support. I could never accuse either Pat or Ron for not having the fire in their belly. To be honest with you, I wished I could have done more for each of them and in turn, done more towards making my country a better place. Many do not know or understand the road blocks delibertly placed to defeat and discourage third party candidates. Dr. paul tried a different approach than Pat Buchanan knowing how poorly Pat fared in his attempt at the presidency. What happen to Pat in Iowa in 1996 would have made most men give up in politics. You should be familiar on how rigged the political process is slanted against third party candidates or the candidates who aren't hand picked by the establishment. members of the two wings of our one party only need a few thousand(token) signatures to get on the ballot. Others need tens of thousands to get on the ballot. Anyone who wants to critisize the candidates like Rion Paul and Pat Buchanan, haven't a clue how hard the battle will be. To me, they have earned my respect and I thank them for trying to restore my country through their efforts to run for public office. I'm saving my criticism for those who have brought us to the abyss of destruction.
Believe me L, I'm losing no sleep over the selection, or RPs decision to remain a Pubbie. And I won't bother to overnight RP asking him why. I already know the spiel about having influence in the party, etc. Some party...some influence. Had he remained in, he had the Perot-like opportunity to reach 8% of the vote and leave a legacy of a new party, eligible for matching federal campaign dollars, and ballot access on most, if not all, of the states. After '00 I came to the conclusion Buchanan bailed on the cause. If you feel otherwise, that's fine. Not much sense in re-raking the coals on any of these guys, frankly. Their time has come and gone as has that of the nation.
Let's not forget that the shadow govt considered Ron Paul to be such a threat to the status quo that he was virtually invisible. They would not allow us to elect him, and would likely go to war (or make him unable to serve, which would be so much easier) to prevent the people from ever getting free of their chains. The military industrial complex (which controls the media) The World Bank, The FED, Israel, the DEMs and the PUBs, The AARP, organized labor, Catholic Charities, and countless other govt and NGO orgs opposed him and the very idea of dismantling America's transfer payment system of govt. It would have been disingenuous for an honest man to continue to collect donations knowing that his delegates would never be allowed to attend the national convention, never mind submit his name. And, JT, you may dismiss the possibility of a chilling threat having been a factor, but you did so because it is an inconvenient obstacle to bashing Ron Paul, not because it wasn't a plausible reason for his ending the campaign. I dare say that Ron Paul was the greatest threat to foreign aid to Israel in modern history, and if you don't think those people play hardball then you haven't been keeping up on current events! Once Paul had achieved the highest dollar amount ever pledged/collected in a single day and had the largest rallies of any candidate and was still ignored, the writing was on the wall and it was pointless to continue. Ron Paul had the support of the entire freedom loving world which was a repudiation of every facet of our present govt, and therefore it is not only reasonable but damned likely that he was opposed by our govt, our media, our most influential corporate and banking dynasties and millions of beneficiaries of the redistribution of wealth in America and around the world. And that is a dangerous collection of enemies indeed. And even a steely-eyed Jethro Tull couldn't stare into that abyss without a chilling awareness of the threats they represented. And, once the non viability of his campaign was no longer in dispute and it was obvious and undeniable to a savvy statesman like Paul he did what he felt was the right thing to do. Rather than continue to collect donations from hopeful but naive Americans he withdrew. It's not his fault that many folks just don't understand that invisible candidates don't get elected in America.
"Is that what I said? Well, what I meant was...."__Richard Nixon
My career as a police officer would have lasted a week if I bailed after a threat. If RP was threatened, and that caused him to bail, he wasn't a leader. He should have expected that at a minimum going into the mess. I'll bet both O and M have been threatened, and yet here they are at the end process. If our generals leave the battlefield over threats - not actions, but threats - they are in the wrong business.
Well you at least had a threat deterrent strapped to your hip. Probably a 9mm glock. When talking about obanger and mcnutz being threatened, those doing the threatening werent the ones necessarily supporting Israel, the Hew World Order, calling for the abolishment of the IRS and the phoney thieving federal reserve bank. Those ruthless money men will stop at nothing to eliminate anyone who threatens their ill gotten money supply. I believe the terms Arkancided and bushwhacked are more ruthless than some deranged whacko who has too much to drink, or who's football team just got beat. Read about Vince Foster and others just like him.
You make a lot of valid plausible remarks. We may never know the whole truth.
L, RPs message was peace, which meant a defunding of the MIC. We're talking $10 billion dollars a month in Iraq alone. That puts a lot of pecker woods out of work. For the life of me I don't understand how a threat, if one did come, came unexpected. I fully and completely understand your disgust w/the system. RP was the only alternative to the sludge strutting about now. I can only imagine the time, effort and money some folks put into his effort. I shot my wad in '96 w/ PB. I'd guess close to $1500, lots of time and travel for naught. When he stood on the floor of the GOP convention w/Bob Dole, I damn near lost my lunch. I knew then Pat was an insider, but nevertheless voted for him again in '00 in hopes of keeping the Reform Party alive. I had been with it since it's inception in the post '94 election. I look back now at that time spent as a total and complete waste of my time, money and effort. Its fine that you feel differently about your latest work. In the end, I'm positive we'll both be at the same place at the same time. Peace.
Serpico left the country. There's a difference between threats in the course of normal law enforcement including retaliation by mafioso and drug gangsters and having the system laying for your ass. I believe that most police officers are killed in traffic collisions. Of course these stats are skewed by highway patrol officers who get creamed on the shoulders while writing citations and inspecting vehicles during car stops. Serpico had no way of knowing how many of his "fellow officers" were on the pad and just how far they'd go to get him after he talked. But, since the cost of the average hit wouldn't buy a rusted out Volvo he wasn't about to chance it. I don't fault him for that. And I don't fault Ron Paul if he got an anonymous call from someone who complimented him on his beautiful grandchildren.... It was only about 2 or 3 years ago that Israel announced that they are sending out hit teams worldwide to eliminate their enemies. And, I have no doubt that they'd consider a popular (and worse, an incorruptible) presidential candidate who opposes foreign aid "the enemy".
"Is that what I said? Well, what I meant was...."__Richard Nixon
Serpico was a fraud. He turned 'honest' after being short changed in the narcotic division. Newbies didn't get a full monthly 'cut' right away. Frank didn't like the rules, so he bitched. And that shooting through the door in the 90th Pct? A junkie got off a lucky shot. Nothing more than that. I was assigned to the Brooklyn North Task force that night and in the area. How can I prove Frank was a fraud? At that time in the NYPD, if Frank Serpico didn't realize his narcotic assignment would lead to regular monthly kickbacks, he was the only one in the dept. unaware. As Paul Harvey would have said, "And that is the rest of the story."
Nice
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
#37. I better add IMVHO to that comment. FS is broke and wouldn't hesitate to use every legal remedy available to perpetuate his Hollywood persona.
Duly noted.
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
That makes sense. So, was my buddy Bill Alleghretti (mounted) a good guy? And, do mounted officers get a cut of the pad?
"Is that what I said? Well, what I meant was...."__Richard Nixon
I'm sure I wasn't the first to question why he'd upset a very stable system and turn his department against him. It just didn't make sense when I watched the movie the first time.... Without an insider the FEDs were flatulating in the wind....
"Is that what I said? Well, what I meant was...."__Richard Nixon
Don't know Bill, but mounted worked the theater district and got lots of great meals and choice seating at all the midtown plays and events. That was called "soft" corruption back in the day, and perfectly acceptable :) Ask Bill if he ever had a dart thrown at his horse. That was fun for the SDS, etc. back in the late 60s.
And then again, he may have seen the polls, and also saw what happened in the primaries. Factor that in with the treatment he received during the 'debate' debacles and the short shrift from the media....... How could anyone, and I mean anyone, think it would be worth it to take shots--literally and/or figuratively--to stay in a race for a position that has been 'stolen' at least thw last two go rounds? All the "I won the popular vote" doesn't mean diddly, as you know, JT--it is the electorals, and when hanky panky is done so that those numbers come out in your favor........ Or how about, even, perhaps, the offchance that it was suggested to Mr. P that something might just happen to his beloved Carol---and then, zap, she was hospitalized. As I recall, what ailed her was being kept close to the chest--no hospital releases, or family commentary. I'm not talking about the latest hospitilization, but the prior one--it seems like when the action was going on in Iowa, or another of the rather early primaries.
Ask Bill if he ever had a dart thrown at his horse. That was fun for the SDS, etc. back in the lats 60s. Funny! He told me that he worked that district and he loved it! And, if someone darted a horse that could cause chaos and real danger to bystanders and the officer. I think I'd be apt to respond poorly to that.... SDS? Commie bastards.
"Is that what I said? Well, what I meant was...."__Richard Nixon
That was a total disgrace. My temperament would have
caused me to interrupt Wolf Blitzer and demand equal time. That's at least one
reason I'm here and he's there, I suppose. RP is a gentleman and chose to
accept what they gave him and that's too bad. He'll never again have access to
the national stage to the degree that he did. Dee, we've been
hammering posts back and forth for at least 10 years now. During that time
things have gone from bad to worse. I'm guessing Obama is in, and I believe
full blown socialism will follow. The time for politics is gone. When these
rats seize power, they'll never give it back. It would now be racist to even
try. I think every freedom we hold will be challenged shortly and we'll each
have to resist or succumb. I pray to god I have the time and ability to
resist.
It was a plum assignment. Students for a Democratic Society; a band of suburban, wealthy, ivy league 'radicals', some of whom couldn't touch their toes. They made a costly mistake on Wall street early on when they tried to close it down for a day. A union construction site happened to be working a few blocks away, and when they got wind of the demonstration, they did in public what we couldn't.
Whenever I run crost' one of the local Peace Officers, I go out of my way to pick up the tab. That's the least I can do. ;-)
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
That's about the only 'excuse' I could reconcile with.
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
That was a total disgrace. My temperament would have caused me to interrupt Wolf Blitzer and demand equal time. That's at least one reason I'm here and he's there, I suppose. RP is a gentleman and chose to accept what they gave him and that's too bad. He'll never again have access to the national stage to the degree that he did. It was fucking criminal what they did to Dr. Ron Paul. Totally criminal. THEY shall not walk through their crisis unscathed, I can assure all of that.
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
If Ron Paul left the GOP and ran third party, he wouldn't have won his House Seat. The GOP establishment ran a neocon candidate named Peden against him in the primaries. Paul beat him handily, but if he left the GOP, people are so stuck on the two party system that he'd probably lose his seat to the neocon tool. A lot of voters ignore what candidates are saying and just vote "R" or "D" in every election. I also haven't see anything to suggest that Ron Paul worried about being a "spoiler" for McCain. He's probably smart enough to realize that all this talk about "spoilers" is nonsense: third party candidates don't take votes away from Dems or GOP, they provide an outlet for people who can't stomach the Dem or GOP candidates. RP probably just learned his lesson from his Libertarian Party run in 1988 and realized that it was a lost cause, and that he's better off staying Dr. No than becoming a marginal third party candidate.
If you think RP was blacked out then (which he was) imagine how he'd be sidelined as a third party candidate. How much do we hear about Bob Barr, Chuck Baldwin, or even Ralph Nader in the MSM these days? I agree that most of the GOP today is garbage just like the Democrats, but strategically third parties are nothing more than a 1% protest vote (which I intend to use, because it's still the best way of saying that the establishment candidates both stink). What exactly would Paul have accomplished with a Libertarian or Constitution Party run? Not much more than Bob Barr will accomplish, or than Buchanan accomplished with the Reform Party.
At that time in the NYPD, if Frank Serpico didn't realize his narcotic assignment would lead to regular monthly kickbacks, he was the only one in the dept. unaware. You just told on yourself. So how much did you receive in kickbacks?
I was just talking with a cousin from Ohio a few minutes ago, and we discussed the upcoming disaster. Frankly, JT, I believe we're done as a nation; that we're on a downward spiral with no turning back. There has been such a moral decay in the nation that no one wants to fix or seem really interested in fixing.....and thats just one thing, though a super major thing because so much stems off from it, including dumbing the people down. I don't recall in any of the little reading I've done on the subject that during or prior to the Great Depression that there was such moral decay. Maybe there was. Anyways, I think I'd like the collapse to be quick, rather than drawn out to where we're killed by a thousand cuts. The cousin who liked what RP was saying also said that there was no way in hell that the special interests, i.e., banking and finance, would have 'allowed' for the sweeping changes that are needed to be enacted. And yeah, I think it has been about 10 years. I joined up at tos1 in Sept 98.
Many here weren't around when Khrushchev was banging his shoe in the UN, but that incident has stayed with me all these years. It was the 5th column that got us, just as he alluded to. With the illegal invasion sanctioned by both parties, the Constitution reduced to a museum piece and friends and family at each others throats, it's time to look back at this Grand Experiment called America and realize it will take a flat out miracle to pull out of this nose dive.
Can't fault your comments, RP
I guess the 'dream' of a constitutional republic is worth having, but at this point with this republic, it is most unlikely that we will ever have such a thing again. This country's citizens are too stupid to look at the world around them and see what has transpired, or to look back at history (what a dumb class to take in school, doncha know) to even begin to consider in any serious manner recapturing past glory. Just aint' gonna happen. Just look at this little micro world of 4um.........how many members have you, I, or others considered 'patriots' or 'knowledgable' have announced they're voting for the o or the m! And we're not much more than a small daub of spit in a bucket. So how many 'real' patriots are there out in the nation? Ones that would go to their grave really fighting for the nation's soul? IMVHO, not near enough, not near enough.
The formation of the U.S.A. was a miracle in and of itself, I still hold out that it can happen again. "No country upon earth ever had it more in its power to attain these blessings than United America. Wondrously strange, then, and much to be regretted indeed would it be, were we to neglect the means and to depart from the road which Providence has pointed us to so plainly; I cannot believe it will ever come to pass." George Washington, letter to Benjamin Lincoln, June 29, 1788
At that time in the NYPD, if Frank Serpico didn't realize his narcotic assignment would lead to regular monthly kickbacks, he was the only one in the dept. unaware. You just told on yourself. So how much did you receive in kickbacks? Why do you assume that JT was a narc? I believe that The Brooklyn North Task Force (to which he was assigned) was a crime suppression detail and was separate from narcotics dicks.
I didn't assume anything. I just figured that he said everybody knew about the kickbacks. If they ALL knew and did nothing to stop them, then they were just as guilty as those taking the kickbacks. ...and you can bet it is still going on today in spite of what they want us to believe.
I worked in two versions of the NYPD, one pre Knapp commission and one post Knapp commission. Serpico was in the pre Knapp commission version and cops simply didn't rat on cops. If you didn't like what people were doing, you stayed away from them. And I never said all cops. The narcotic unit was the given I was referring to. That was the culture; that's how I broke in. But feel free to moralize as you will..... And to take your point to the logical conclusion, since we know politicians are lying, thieving, quitting bags of shit, why do you participate in the system? Isn't that to empower them?
I didn't assume anything. I just figured that he said everybody knew about the kickbacks. If they ALL knew and did nothing to stop them, then they were just as guilty as those taking the kickbacks. ...and you can bet it is still going on today in spite of what they want us to believe. (Nice try with a non sequitur diversion!-HD) No, what you said was "You just told on yourself. So how much did you receive in kickbacks? And, JT wrote, "At that time in the NYPD, if Frank Serpico didn't realize his narcotic assignment would lead to regular monthly kickbacks, he was the only one in the dept. unaware." JT clearly distinguished between those who knew and those who were receiving kickbacks. Therefore, the only logical way to presume he was taking kickbacks would be to presume that he was a narc. A "narcotic assignment would lead to regular monthly kickbacks". So, it would appear that you're trying to get slippery when cornered instead of admitting your error. In other words, you just told on yourself. (ooh, that smarts! Are your ears burning now?) When you erroneously stated that JT had somehow let something slip but it was your misreading of his post. And then you compounded your error by trying to bury it like a DAWG turd. and it turns out that well, you were just too clever by half, weren't you?
Yeah, I assumed wrong so shoot me and you assumed something that is head over heels ridiculous chickenshit. According to what he said it sounded like all the good little cops knew what was going on and only the good little narc cops were on the take. Now kiss off buckwheat! Go play with flintlock or somebody like him.
It's a real bitch when someone mis-characterizes you, isn't it? JT didn't deserve it either, when you pounced with your erroneous "AH HAH! GOTCHA"! He's had plenty of opportunities to hint, indicate or confess to being on the pad and he's never done so, and frankly it's insulting to him and me for you to think that he'd ever slip up and let something like that out. You could have just as easily given him the benefit of the doubt and simply asked for clarification. Remember that next time, okay?
NEW YORK (CNN) -- Frank Serpico, the former New York City cop who became a symbol for police honesty, lashed out at society's leaders Tuesday, saying "We need good role models, and they have to start at the top." Twenty-six years after testifying at hearings on police corruption in New York City, the 61-year-old Serpico told a city council hearing on police misconduct that much of the problem lay with America's leaders. In a 15-minute statement, Serpico cited examples of what he considers poor behavior by those leaders -- from President Clinton's refusal to take his suggestion that he reward an honest police officer, to an incident in which New York Police Commisioner Howard Safir ate in a restaurant that is off-limits to officers because of its alleged links to organized crime. Tanned and lean, wearing a white beard and his long gray hair tied neatly in a ponytail, Serpico said after each example, "What kind of a message does this send out to the honest cop?" http://www.cnn.com/US/9709/23/serpico.brutality/ (more at URL site)
Uh huh. They get rewarded by not being fired or thrown in prison, just like how EVERY SINGLE FUCKING ONE OF US GETS "REWARDED"!!! Congrats, asshole, you are doing what you are paid to do. Your reward is a weekly paycheck for a job well done. But cops are special, right? Special my ass.
Hey, every time a cop is convicted of a common cop crime normally not bothered with, an angels gets its wings.
#27. To: Lady X (#25)
#28. To: Jethro Tull (#21)
IMO, he bailed because he's a Republican who 1) didn't have the fire in his belly and 2) didn't want to appear to be a spoiler to the Republican nominee.
#29. To: LACUMO (#28)
(Edited)
#30. To: X-15, Jethro Tull, christine, LACUMO (#11)
Well, SOMETHING happened. He was either unable or unwilling to surround himself with the kind of successful people needed to run a kick-ass campaign. He had the right message considering what happened with the economy starting in late August.
#31. To: HOUNDDAWG (#30)
(Edited)
And, JT, you may dismiss the possibility of a chilling threat having been a factor, but you did so because it is an inconvenient obstacle to bashing Ron Paul, not because it wasn't a plausible reason for his ending the campaign.
#32. To: Jethro Tull (#31)
My career as a police officer would have lasted a week if I bailed after a threat. If RP was threatened, and that caused him to bail, he wasn't a leader. He should have expected that at a minimum going into the mess. I'll bet both O and M have been threatened,
#33. To: HOUNDDAWG (#30)
Rather than continue to collect donations from hopeful but naive Americans he withdrew. It's not his fault that many folks just don't understand that invisible candidates don't get elected in America.
#34. To: LACUMO (#32)
#35. To: Jethro Tull (#31)
My career as a police officer would have lasted a week if I bailed after a threat. If RP was threatened, and that caused him to bail, he wasn't a leader. He should have expected that at a minimum going into the mess. I'll bet both O and M have been threatened, and yet here they are at the end process. If our generals leave the battlefield over threats - not actions, but threats - they are in the wrong business.
#36. To: HOUNDDAWG (#35)
Serpico left the country.
#37. To: Jethro Tull (#36)
#38. To: Rotara (#37)
#39. To: Jethro Tull (#38)
FS is broke
#40. To: Jethro Tull (#36)
#41. To: Jethro Tull (#38)
I better add IMVHO to that comment. FS is broke and wouldn't hesitate to use every legal remedy available to perpetuate his Hollywood persona.
#42. To: HOUNDDAWG (#40)
(Edited)
#43. To: Jethro Tull (#14)
#44. To: Jethro Tull (#42)
Don't know Bill, but mounted worked the theater district and got lots of great meals and choice seating at all the midtown plays and events. That was called "soft" corruption back in the day, and perfectly acceptable :)
#45. To: rowdee (#43)
Factor that in with the treatment he received during
the 'debate' debacles and the short shrift from the media.......
#46. To: HOUNDDAWG (#44)
#47. To: Jethro Tull (#42)
lots of great meals and choice seating at all the midtown plays and events. That was called "soft" corruption back in the day, and perfectly acceptable :
#48. To: rowdee (#43)
Or how about, even, perhaps, the offchance that it was suggested to Mr. P that something might just happen to his beloved Carol---and then, zap, she was hospitalized. As I recall, what ailed her was being kept close to the chest--no hospital releases, or family commentary. I'm not talking about the latest hospitilization, but the prior one--it seems like when the action was going on in Iowa, or another of the rather early primaries.
#49. To: Jethro Tull (#45)
Factor that in with the treatment he received during the 'debate' debacles and the short shrift from the media.......
#50. To: Jethro Tull (#21)
[Ron Paul's] House seat is safe
#51. To: Jethro Tull (#45)
(Edited)
That was a total disgrace. My temperament would have caused me to interrupt Wolf Blitzer and demand equal time. That's at least one reason I'm here and he's there, I suppose. RP is a gentleman and chose to accept what they gave him and that's too bad. He'll never again have access to the national stage to the degree that he did.
#52. To: Jethro Tull (#36)
Serpico was a fraud.
#53. To: Jethro Tull (#45)
#54. To: rowdee (#53)
#55. To: Rupert_Pupkin (#19)
#56. To: Jethro Tull (#54)
#57. To: Jethro Tull (#54)
it's time to look back at this Grand Experiment called America and realize it will take a flat out miracle to pull out of this nose dive.
-Schweizerische Schuetzenzeitung (Swiss Shooting Federation) April, 1941
#58. To: LACUMO, Jethro Tull, christine (#52)
(Edited)
Serpico was a fraud.
#59. To: HOUNDDAWG (#58)
Why do you assume that JT was a narc?
#60. To: LACUMO, HOUNDDAWG (#59)
If they ALL knew and did nothing to stop them, then they were just as guilty as those taking the kickbacks.
#61. To: LACUMO, Jethro Tull (#59)
Why do you assume that JT was a narc?
#62. To: HOUNDDAWG (#61)
So, it would appear that you're trying to get slippery when cornered instead of admitting your error.
#63. To: LACUMO, Jethro Tull, christine (#62)
Yeah, I assumed wrong so shoot me and you assumed something that is head over heels ridiculous chickenshit.
#64. To: Jethro Tull (#60)
Serpico resurrects his decades-old criticism of NYPD
"You only have power over people so long as you don't take everything away from them. But when you've robbed a man of everything he's no longer in your power -- he's free again. Alexander Solzhenitsyn
#65. To: Ferret Mike, All (#64)
In a 15-minute statement, Serpico cited examples of what he considers poor behavior by those leaders -- from President Clinton's refusal to take his suggestion that he reward an honest police officer,
#66. To: PSUSA (#65)
"You only have power over people so long as you don't take everything away from them. But when you've robbed a man of everything he's no longer in your power -- he's free again. Alexander Solzhenitsyn
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