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Title: Ruling Set For Obama “Natural Born” Ohio Suit
Source: therightperspective.com
URL Source: http://therightperspective.com/wordpress/?p=267
Published: Oct 31, 2008
Author: therightperspective.com
Post Date: 2008-10-31 02:20:48 by TwentyTwelve
Keywords: Obama, Ohio, Natural born citizen lawsuit
Views: 212
Comments: 17

Ruling Set For Obama “Natural Born” Ohio Suit

October 30th, 2008

An Ohio judge is set to rule Friday if a lawsuit disputing the “natural born” status of US Presidential candidate Barack Obama is valid.

The suit, filed by political blogger David M. Neal, is one of eight lawsuits similar to one filed by Philadelphia attorney Philip J. Berg last August. That suit was dissmissed after some questionable legal procedures regarding time frames. Berg is preparing for an appeal to the Supreme Court.

Barack Obama’s “Fight The Smears” website has confirmed that Obama was a Kenyan citizen until 1982. Hawaii governor Linda Lingle sealed access to Obama’s birth certificate Monday. Obama has not yet requested access to it.

Filed under: Defeat Obama Central Article tags: David Neal, lawsuit, Natural born citizen, Obama, Ohio

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#1. To: TwentyTwelve (#0)

I think ObamaRahma has this one sewed up. Nothing like a professional dual citizen to know to how to beat the system.

Ahmadinejad in 2008!
Everyone agrees that unanimity is hard to find.

bluegrass  posted on  2008-10-31   3:07:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: TwentyTwelve (#0)

I think I'm able to be objective about this birth certificate issue since I don't vote and I don't like either candidate. I think both of the parties are worse than self-centered monopolists that want to own everything including your ass, want to control everything including your thoughts, and ultimately want you to bow to their authority and possess your very soul.

That being said, all Presidents of the U.S. are required to be natural born U.S. citizens. If the requirement exists under a CONstitutional government and if we still have a CONstitutional government (which we don't) then Obama would have to produce proof that he qualifies for the office.

His immediate resort to litigation demonstrates his arrogance and disrespect for the people of the U.S. Any person that would expect the support of a nation while at the same time sneaking into that position by circumventing the longstanding qualifications for the office isn't worthy of the necessary support or the office itself.

I have viewed the U.S. Government as an enemy to myself and my family for a very long time because both parties have trampled the basic rights of Americans, used the population to foment wars that benefit the elites, serve no one but themselves and special interests and act in ways that would violate my concscience should I participate or comply with their deeds.

I may be one of those people that sees things in black and white. Things are either good or bad. Killing children seems to me the most evil thing that mankind can accomplish unless you consider manipulating an entire nation to finance wars and volunteer their offspring to kill and be killed. I will not be a part of it, ever, period.

Where's your birth certificate Barack ?

noone222  posted on  2008-10-31   3:20:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: TwentyTwelve (#0)

while Americans debate bogus issues like McCain and Obama's birth certificates the government/politicians are destroying our country - immoral, unnecessary wars, spending wealth/money that doesn't exist, gutting our Constitutional and civil rights. ---- Hegelian Dialectic ----

Americans had better wake up and see the BS propaganda for what it is, a distraction and another tool used to divide Americans, and focus on the important issues that are destroying the future of our country and those who live/will live here before it is too late. Remember when Kerry emphasized his military background/experience and yet wouldn't release all his military records/history? It is because Kerry is one of them. This is all a plan.

Born in the U.S.A. August 21, 2008 Updated: August 26, 2008 The truth about Obama's birth certificate. Summary In June, the Obama campaign released a digitally scanned image of his birth certificate to quell speculative charges that he might not be a natural-born citizen. But the image prompted more blog-based skepticism about the document's authenticity. And recently, author Jerome Corsi, whose book attacks Obama, said in a TV interview that the birth certificate the campaign has is "fake."

We beg to differ. FactCheck.org staffers have now seen, touched, examined and photographed the original birth certificate. We conclude that it meets all of the requirements from the State Department for proving U.S. citizenship. Claims that the document lacks a raised seal or a signature are false. We have posted high-resolution photographs of the document as "supporting documents" to this article. Our conclusion: Obama was born in the U.S.A. just as he has always said. Analysis Since we first wrote about Obama's birth certificate on June 16, speculation on his citizenship has continued apace. Some claim that Obama posted a fake birth certificate to his Web page. That charge leaped from the blogosphere to the mainstream media earlier this week when Jerome Corsi, author of a book attacking Obama, repeated the claim in an Aug. 15 interview with Steve Doocy on Fox News.

Corsi: Well, what would be really helpful is if Senator Obama would release primary documents like his birth certificate. The campaign has a false, fake birth certificate posted on their website. How is anybody supposed to really piece together his life?

Doocy: What do you mean they have a "false birth certificate" on their Web site?

Corsi: The original birth certificate of Obama has never been released, and the campaign refuses to release it.

Doocy: Well, couldn't it just be a State of Hawaii-produced duplicate?

Corsi: No, it's a -- there's been good analysis of it on the Internet, and it's been shown to have watermarks from Photoshop. It's a fake document that's on the Web site right now, and the original birth certificate the campaign refuses to produce.

Corsi isn't the only skeptic claiming that the document is a forgery. Among the most frequent objections we saw on forums, blogs and e-mails are:

* The birth certificate doesn't have a raised seal. * It isn't signed. * No creases from folding are evident in the scanned version. * In the zoomed-in view, there's a strange halo around the letters. * The certificate number is blacked out. * The date bleeding through from the back seems to say "2007," but the document wasn't released until 2008. * The document is a "certification of birth," not a "certificate of birth."

Recently FactCheck representatives got a chance to spend some time with the birth certificate, and we can attest to the fact that it is real and three-dimensional and resides at the Obama headquarters in Chicago. We can assure readers that the certificate does bear a raised seal, and that it's stamped on the back by Hawaii state registrar Alvin T. Onaka (who uses a signature stamp rather than signing individual birth certificates). We even brought home a few photographs.

www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/born_in_the_usa.html

www.politifact.com/truth-...irth-certificate-part-ii/

bush_is_a_moonie  posted on  2008-10-31   9:00:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: bush_is_a_moonie, _is_a_loonie (#3)

factcheck.org

factcheck.org is registered to the Annenberg Public Policy Center where Bill Ayers served on the board.

Factcheck is partisan and not to be trusted, so:

Why doesn't obama produce his Birth Certificate and end this once and for all?

It's the second mouse that gets the cheese

Flintlock  posted on  2008-10-31   9:12:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Flintlock (#4)

Why doesn't obama produce his Birth Certificate and end this once and for all?

Because any press is good press.

It also allows his minions to run around screaming "RAAAACISM" which stifles criticism and chills speech.

"A leader, for a change." - Jimmy Carter, 1976 campaign slogan. Sound familiar? Here it comes again!

mirage  posted on  2008-10-31   10:04:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: noone222 (#2)

I think both of the parties are worse than self-centered monopolists that want to own everything including your ass, want to control everything including your thoughts, and ultimately want you to bow to their authority and possess your very soul.

Interesting way of putting it. Accurate as well.


I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies. If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around [the banks] will deprive the people of all property until their children wake-up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered. The issuing power should be taken from the banks and restored to the people, to whom it properly belongs. —Thomas Jefferson, 1802

farmfriend  posted on  2008-10-31   10:08:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: noone222 (#2)

I think I'm able to be objective about this birth certificate issue since I don't vote and I don't like either candidate. I think both of the parties are worse than self-centered monopolists that want to own everything including your ass, want to control everything including your thoughts, and ultimately want you to bow to their authority and possess your very soul.

That being said, all Presidents of the U.S. are required to be natural born U.S. citizens. If the requirement exists under a CONstitutional government and if we still have a CONstitutional government (which we don't) then Obama would have to produce proof that he qualifies for the office.

His immediate resort to litigation demonstrates his arrogance and disrespect for the people of the U.S. Any person that would expect the support of a nation while at the same time sneaking into that position by circumventing the longstanding qualifications for the office isn't worthy of the necessary support or the office itself.

That is great.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2008-10-31   10:16:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: noone222 (#2)

That being said, all Presidents of the U.S. are required to be natural born U.S. citizens. If the requirement exists under a CONstitutional government and if we still have a CONstitutional government (which we don't) then Obama would have to produce proof that he qualifies for the office.

-1 Cor. 3:18, 19; Let no one be seducing himself: If anyone among YOU thinks he is wise in this system of things, let him become a fool, that he may become wise. 19 For the wisdom of this world is foolishness with God;

When a man who is honestly mistaken hears the truth, he will either quit being mistaken or cease to be honest.

richard9151  posted on  2008-10-31   10:37:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Flintlock (#4)

Whats the problem with Annenberg? Walter was Jewish and very Republican his foundation follows his philosophy one could never accuse him of being left of center Reagan was his best buddy

robnoel  posted on  2008-10-31   10:50:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: robnoel (#9)

Whats the problem with Annenberg?

Nothing. You're confusing the Annenberg Foundation with the Annenberg Public Policy Center

Bill Ayers was on the board of the Public Policy Center

It's the second mouse that gets the cheese

Flintlock  posted on  2008-10-31   12:44:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: TwentyTwelve (#0)

Berg is preparing for an appeal to the Supreme Court.

And, he'll learn by their denial of certiorari that the high court has even less tolerance for lawsuits without proper foundation.

Berg didn't even have a sworn deposition from Obama's grandmother to enter as part of his prima facie case against Obama.

And, it's not enough to say, "She told me on the phone that Obama was foreign born!" SHE may be calling from the day room of a hospital for the demon possessed and believe that she hears voices....

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2008-10-31   13:06:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: James Deffenbach (#7)

Thank you.

Where's your birth certificate Barack ?

noone222  posted on  2008-10-31   15:30:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: farmfriend (#6)

Thanks !

Where's your birth certificate Barack ?

noone222  posted on  2008-10-31   15:31:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: HOUNDDAWG (#11)

Barack Obama’s “Fight The Smears” website has confirmed that Obama was a Kenyan citizen until 1982. Hawaii governor Linda Lingle sealed access to Obama’s birth certificate Monday.

Berg is disputing Obama's eligibility to run for President under "natural born" requirements. Berg does not need to bring in hearsay from Obama's Kenyan aunt. Berg has to prove his legal standing to the Court and the injury he sustains if Obama is not forth coming with evidence of his eligibility.

Berg wants the Courts to recognize him and his request to force Obama to produce evidence of his eligibility as "natural born" to run for the Oval Office - ie. Obama's original live birth record - which the Governor of Hawaii has now sealed.

Horse posted a good article yesterday that outlined/summarized Berg's case.

freedom4um.com/cgi-bin/re...cgi?ArtNum=89836&Disp=All

"Berg to U.S. Supreme Court this Afternoon"

scrapper2  posted on  2008-10-31   15:47:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: scrapper2, HOUNDDAWG. Horse (#14)

Phil Berg Files Anti-Obama Case in Both the 3rd Circuit and the U.S. Supreme Court October 31st, 2008

Phil Berg Files Anti-Obama Case in Both the 3rd Circuit and the U.S. Supreme Court October 31st, 2008

On October 30, Philadelphia attorney Phil Berg filed his appeal in Berg v Obama in the 3rd circuit, case number 08-4340. That Court has not acted. Berg then filed with the U.S. Supreme Court, case number 08-570.

The U.S. Court of Appeals Clerk’s office is treating this case in an unusual manner. Normally, when one telephones the Clerk’s office and asks about the status of a case, someone in the clerical staff answers the question. In this particular case, the employees have been told not to release any information, without having the caller speak to one of the attorneys who works in the Clerk’s office.

The case concerns Berg’s assertions that Obama does not meet the constitutional qualifications to be president. The U.S. District Court had ruled earlier this month that Berg lacks standing.

TwentyTwelve  posted on  2008-10-31   15:52:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: TwentyTwelve (#15)

The U.S. Court of Appeals Clerk’s office is treating this case in an unusual manner. Normally, when one telephones the Clerk’s office and asks about the status of a case, someone in the clerical staff answers the question. In this particular case, the employees have been told not to release any information, without having the caller speak to one of the attorneys who works in the Clerk’s office.

Say what? The Court of Appeals Clerk's Office are all government "employees", whose salaries are paid by US taxpayers. And these gov't employees are being "ordered" to act as obstacles re: providing information on the case and also to not refer taxpayers to one of the attorney's who works in the Clerk's Office? What's wrong with this picture?

Why doesn't the US Attorney General together with the help of the Governor of Pennsylvania immediately suspend the Clerk who gave such orders and send in the PA. National Guard to physically remove the Clerk pending the investigation of the Clerk's unprofessional and unbecoming conduct which would send a pointed message to the government employees working in the Clerk's Office. This is ridiculous. The Clerk's Office exists to serve the taxpayers of the state not to serve the Clerk's whim and political bias.

scrapper2  posted on  2008-10-31   16:08:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Flintlock (#10)

Thanks ....I thought that was a little strange

robnoel  posted on  2008-10-31   17:33:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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