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Title: Obama's New Attack on Those Who Don't Want Higher Taxes: ‘Selfishness’
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ABC News Blog.com
URL Source: http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2008/10/obamas-new-atta.html
Published: Oct 31, 2008
Author: Jake Tapper, ABC's Senior News Correspon
Post Date: 2008-10-31 19:20:09 by scrapper2
Keywords: Obama & redistribution of weal, Marxism, keeping the fruits of your lab
Views: 367
Comments: 48
On the stump this week, Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., has pushed back against Sen. John McCain's description of his tax policies. "The reason that we want to do this, change our tax code, is not because I have anything against the rich," Obama said in Sarasota, Fla., yesterday. "I love rich people! I want all of you to be rich. Go for it. That’s the American dream, that’s the American way, that’s terrific. "The point is, though, that -- and it’s not just charity, it’s not just that I want to help the middle class and working people who are trying to get in the middle class -- it’s that when we actually make sure that everybody’s got a shot – when young people can all go to college, when everybody’s got decent health care, when everybody’s got a little more money at the end of the month – then guess what? Everybody starts spending that money, they decide maybe I can afford a new car, maybe I can afford a computer for my child. They can buy the products and services that businesses are selling and everybody is better off. All boats rise. That’s what happened in the 1990s, that’s what we need to restore. And that’s what I’m gonna do as president of the United States of America. "John McCain and Sarah Palin they call this socialistic," Obama continued. "You know I don’t know when, when they decided they wanted to make a virtue out of selfishness." It's unclear if this was a nod to the Ayn Rand book "The Virtue of Selfishness," with all that the invocation of Rand implies. It would seem to be, given the themes of Rand's work, what happens when independent achievers are demonized. Which would fit with this description of those who want to keep their hard-earned tax dollars as "selfish." Atlas may not be shrugging, but Obama is.
Poster Comment: Obama and Biden make quite a pair - soul mates - Joe says successful hard working people should want to pay higher taxes out of patriotism. Obama says it's selfish for successful Americans not to want to pay higher taxes because higher taxes allows the under class and illegal aliens to realize their dreams of getting other people's $ by doing nuthin.'
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#1. To: James Deffenbach, LACUMO (#0)
FYI... There's over 1000 reader feedback comments at the url.
I never thought there would be anyone worse than GWB but I am so wrong and I am stunned...
I never thought there would be anyone worse than GWB but I am so wrong and I am stunned... And if there are any of you here who still believe that Obama's definition of "the rich" does not include you, wake up. Governor Richardson confirmed that Obama considers any family earning more than $120,000 a year to be "rich" under his new "patriotic and selfless" increased income taxes scheme. And the $120,000 is the figure that he is "admitting to" publicly before Nov. 04. Wait until after the election, and Obama wants to deliver universal health care and give every American resident - legal and illegal - a house, and every American a free college education, that definition of "rich" will slide downwards considerably to cover the costs of Obama's give-aways from your pocket to "those less fortunate."
Socialist sob is about the nicest thing I can think of to say about him. Where is the authority to be found in the Constitution for the government to make sure that "all young people can go to college" or that "everybody has decent health care" or any of the other hundreds of things they involve themselves in? It isn't there and his supporters claim this nut was some kind of professor teaching the Constitution!
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. I thought Barakula was gonna pick him instead of Biden..
There's over 1000 reader feedback comments at the url. Thanks scrapper. This phony election about has me so pi$$ed off I can't stand it. A "choice" between a fascist who has never seen a military budget or a police state measure he didn't like and a socialist/communist who is a legend in his own mind and thinks that he is who we have been waiting for. It would be hard to imagine two more worthless pieces of $#it to have foisted off on us. If you get the idea that I don't particularly care for either of the establishment's goons you would be correct.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. LOL! I never thought we would get anything worse than Clinton but other than his unconstitutional forays into undeclared wars and Waco--either of which should have gotten him impeached--he was a better president than Bush. And I believe that no matter which one of the hand picked establishment puppets wins this election America will lose. It ALWAYS gets worse with every election and I see no reason to believe that this one is going to be any different and a lot of reasons to believe things will get worse.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. Obama is definitely "special." He embodies a Marxist madness and anti-Constitution destructive force.
Let Nutjob Obama tell me I'm selfish. I'll belt him one right in the face. Screw that prick.
I never thought there would be anyone worse than GWB but I am so wrong and I am stunned... Yeah, Jr. has been a jawdropping disaster, but he's old newz. Barry is a bonafide red diaper monster. In the spirit of the eve: "Die, Monster, Die."
Barry Obama -- In your heart, you know he's wrong.
While that sentiment is true enough, the question I have in my mind is this: Are McCain and Obama equally awful candidates in terms of wreaking destruction to the Founding Father's vision for America? And are both candidates going to have immediate negative consequences on my life, on my assets, on my dreams for leaving a legacy to future scrapper generations? I know alot about McCain based on his voting record and questions about his military service earning hero status and his dumping of wife #1 for the trophy wife and his IsraelFirst pronouncements etc, etc. But only recently - the past couple of months - have revelations surfaced about Obama's tax policies, his status about being "natural born", his close friendships with Ayers and his Marxist leanings in his college years and trips abroad to Pakistan and his policy advisors (all neoconlib), his courting the Jewish vote by genuflecting to Israel, his shrill calls for "volunteerism", his denigration of material success as selfishness unless it's given to government to re-distribute to others, etc etc. It's not that McCain is a less self-serving candidate than Obama. It's that I am beginning to have a palatable fear in my heart that Obama is more dangerous to my nation's cultural and historic heritage and to my personal life. I think Obama's vision of change will set our nation on its ear.
Crazy m'effer.
Amen. The half-breed won't do. Go for the half-wit, and pray.
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"Die, Monster, Die." Happy Gallows Eve from my cave !! ;-)
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
Well done! Dasvidanya Comrade
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
Short sweet and to the point, lodi, and good advice perhaps. With McCain, what we see is what we'll get ie. a half-wit. But America has survived a succession of half-wits in the Oval Office, most notably - tahdah - W. But with Obama we'll get everything we see (which are only bits and pieces of revelations which are scary in themselves) and more - as in more than we bargained for or want. I think Obama is to the waaaay left of FDR and LBJ. Obama wants to remake America to conform to his Marxist vision of Utopia. I think Obama arrogantly views himself as the second coming of a Founding Father, to help birth "the New America."
That's it. McAnus is a damned serious wound from which we might recover. Barry is fatal. Period.
Barry Obama -- In your heart, you know he's wrong.
What I know about them is that they are both self-serving pieces of $#it and neither deserve the vote of any American. I will not be voting for either of them but of course I don't tell other people who to vote for. I would (gladly) vote for Chuck Baldwin if he had made it on the ballot where I live but he didn't and they don't count write in votes. They have admitted that. I guess I will hold my nose and vote for Bob Barr even though I wanted Ron Paul before he dropped out (and would write him in if they counted it).
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. To me, it's which is the less un-kown, and which is the potentially scarier prospect: and it's the Yobama here. As you, correctly note, we've survived morons before, but I truly tire of it. The magic machines will tell us who is the rulers choice for us...I'll go with Lindsey Williams' message, McKook. I just want it to end.
I've thought about what it would be like to be in the same predicament, with you in mind. You know I'd never PRESUME to tell you how to vote, but has it crossed your mind, as it has mine strongly, that Barr is a NEOCON stalking horse much as we saw employed in spades against Ron Paul ? Were I in your shoes, it's just me and not you at all, but I'd have to consider the least destructive socialist POS that was available or just not freakin' vote. Don't mean to step on you and certainly don't give a shit about this charade, but just my .02.
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
Did I see you say you're voting for Cynthia M. ?
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
I think Congress should set the example -- by eliminating their distinctive pension and health care system. They can participate in the general federal government program (a very nice program) and live on Social Security. Also, Congressional and staff salaries should be reduced to reflect a more humble, middle-class existence. Say, a cap of $60,000 a year.
The U.S. Constitution is no impediment to our form of government.--PJ O'Rourke
Yeah, I have thought about that. I may not vote at all, haven't decided yet. I know I can't vote for Obama--if it were a question of being forced to pick one or the other of them I would pick McNutz over him. But I don't think either of them are worthy of the vote of any American and homey don't play dat tryin' to pick the lesser of two evils. I would rather not vote for any amount of it.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. I would have, but the only choices on our ballots here are R, D, and L. Going for McKook, gridlock, insanity, perhaps a state funeral, and generally nothing getting done in deecee. A chaos vote.
Also, Congressional and staff salaries should be reduced to reflect a more humble, middle-class existence. Say, a cap of $60,000 a year. While we're at it, why not go back to gentlemen-politicians and 'kill' the profession as it were ? Term limits, short and sweet.
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
If forced at gun point to the head, I'd rather meet my Maker than vote for a Globalist Traitor. That's just me. You know I love you Brother.
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! Really !?
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
Also, Congressional and staff salaries should be reduced to reflect a more humble, middle-class existence. Say, a cap of $60,000 a year. Excellent suggestion! Our federal elected officials and their sycophantic staff need to lead by example. Such humility and frugal life style will definitely speak well of their "patriotism" and their "selflessness."
If we didn't have an honest man, raymondfrank.com running for sheriff here, I wouldn't even go to the poll. Yeah, I'll go R, and hope for the worst.
I'd rather "If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
how about an abstain vote--an 'i refuse to participate in the wicked system' vote.
Understand completely.
Wow, I guess that's pretty graphic. I apologize, but. I guess it fits well. Your call.
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
My apologies if the graphic nature of my response put you off.
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
The best thing would be the 'None of the Above' choice and keep on voting forever. The flaw here, is the magic voting boxes...the HAVA has screwed us all. Forever, until we overturn it locally.
Remember, my filters only allow me to go to linked images, or embedded sites - nothing else shows up here - sometimes unfortunately for me. img src don't work here.
Yeah, I know what you mean. When I say "forced to" I mean if I was being tortured beyond human endurance. If all it meant was getting shot before voting for one worlders I would rather be shot. Homey don't play dat. And yeah, I know you love me bro and I love you too.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. Sure it is. It's the second mouse that gets the cheese
Great cartoon Flintlock. I'll have to spread that around.
That would be funny if McCain wasn't also a global socialist.
And they write innumerable books; being too vain and distracted for silence: seeking every one after his own elevation, and dodging his emptiness. - T. S. Eliot
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#2. To: scrapper2 (#1)
#3. To: Lady X, All (#2)
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#4. To: scrapper2 (#0)
"The point is, though, that -- and it’s not just charity, it’s not just that I want to help the middle class and working people who are trying to get in the middle class -- it’s that when we actually make sure that everybody’s got a shot – when young people can all go to college, when everybody’s got decent health care, when everybody’s got a little more money at the end of the month – then guess what? Everybody starts spending that money, they decide maybe I can afford a new car, maybe I can afford a computer for my child. They can buy the products and services that businesses are selling and everybody is better off. All boats rise. That’s what happened in the 1990s, that’s what we need to restore. And that’s what I’m gonna do as president of the United States of America.
Lord Acton
#5. To: scrapper2 (#3)
Governor Richardson
#6. To: scrapper2 (#1)
FYI...
Lord Acton
#7. To: Lady X (#2)
I never thought there would be anyone worse than GWB but I am so wrong and I am stunned...
Lord Acton
#8. To: Lady X (#2)
I never thought there would be anyone worse than GWB
#9. To: scrapper2 (#8)
#10. To: Lady X (#2)
#11. To: James Deffenbach (#7)
And I believe that no matter which one of the hand picked establishment puppets wins this election America will lose.
#12. To: scrapper2 (#0)
#13. To: scrapper2 (#11)
It's not that McCain is a less self-serving candidate than Obama. It's that I am beginning to have a palatable fear in my heart that Obama is more dangerous to my nation's cultural and historic heritage and to my personal life. I think Obama's vision of change will set our nation on its ear.
#14. To: scrapper2 (#0)
(Edited)
when young people can all go to college, when everybody’s got decent health care, when everybody’s got a little more money at the end of the month
-Schweizerische Schuetzenzeitung (Swiss Shooting Federation) April, 1941
#15. To: Old Fud (#10)
Barry is a bonafide red diaper monster. In the spirit of the eve:
#16. To: X-15 (#14)
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#17. To: lodwick (#13)
(Edited)
Go for the half-wit, and pray.
#18. To: scrapper2 (#11)
It's not that McCain is a less self-serving candidate than Obama. It's that I am beginning to have a palatable fear in my heart that Obama is more dangerous to my nation's cultural and historic heritage and to my personal life. I think Obama's vision of change will set our nation on its ear.
#19. To: scrapper2 (#11)
Lord Acton
#20. To: scrapper2 (#17)
But with Obama we'll get everything we see (which are only bits and pieces of revelations which are scary in themselves) and more - and more than we bargained for or desire. I think Obama is to the way left of FDR and LBJ. Obama wants to remake America to conform to his Marxist vision of Utopia.
#21. To: James Deffenbach (#19)
I guess I will hold my nose and vote for Bob Barr even though I wanted Ron Paul before he dropped out (and would write him in if they counted it).
#22. To: lodwick (#20)
#23. To: scrapper2 (#0)
#24. To: Rotara (#21)
Lord Acton
#25. To: Rotara (#22)
Did I see you say you're voting for Cynthia M. ?
#26. To: DeaconBenjamin (#23)
I think Congress should set the example -- by eliminating their distinctive pension and health care system. They can participate in the general federal government program (a very nice program) and live on Social Security.
#27. To: James Deffenbach (#24)
I know I can't vote for Obama--if it were a question of being forced to pick one or the other of them I would pick McNutz over him. But I don't think either of them are worthy of the vote of any American and homey don't play dat tryin' to pick the lesser of two evils.
#28. To: lodwick (#25)
Going for McKook
#29. To: DeaconBenjamin (#23)
I think Congress should set the example -- by eliminating their distinctive pension and health care system. They can participate in the general federal government program (a very nice program) and live on Social Security.
#30. To: Rotara (#28)
Really !?
#31. To: lodwick (#30)
Yeah, I'll go R, and hope for the worst.
#32. To: lodwick (#25)
#33. To: Rotara (#31)
#34. To: christine (#32)
#35. To: lodwick (#33)
Understand completely.
#36. To: christine (#32)
#37. To: Rotara, sll (#35)
#38. To: Rotara (#27)
If forced at gun point to the head, I'd rather meet my Maker than vote for a Globalist Traitor. That's just me. You know I love you Brother.
Lord Acton
#39. To: scrapper2 (#0)
Obama says it's selfish for successful Americans not to want to pay higher taxes because higher taxes allows the under class and illegal aliens to realize their dreams of getting other people's $ by doing nuthin.'
#40. To: Flintlock (#39)
#41. To: Flintlock (#39)
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