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Title: Obama audio — I want to ban concealed weapons permits
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Published: Nov 3, 2008
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Post Date: 2008-11-03 15:26:01 by freepatriot32
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Keywords: obomba, guns, concealed weapons
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Well I, I, I, I continue to, I continue to, uh, uh, support a ban on concealed carry laws.” I did not know that. Really, I didn’t know that Barack Obama wants to outlaw CCWs (concealed weapons permits). I thought that I’d followed this campaign closer than most, but this one got right by me. For the record, I myself hold a State of Florida Concealed Weapon or Firearm License, having subjected myself to a background check, paid the fee (and renewal fees) and demonstrated proficiency and responsibility with personal firearms. Hell, there was a time some years ago when I was berated on a radio show for having submitted myself to the scrutiny of the government for having applied for a permit as a prerequisite to carrying. Now I learn that if Obama wins I won’t even have the right to ask the government to certify me to responsibly exercise my rights (obligations?) under the second amendment. Has he been asked a direct question in the presidential campaign about why he feels that way? Hey, watch this. The setting is a WBEZ Chicago NPR radio program called “Eight Forty-Eight”, the date is September 13, 2004, as Obama runs for the US Senate. [yes, it is edited for time. You can listen to the entire interview at this link...look for September 13, audio link to "Campaign Notebook, Obama on guns and crime"] Obama flat says, with pausal prompts omitted, “I continue to support a ban on concealed carry laws.” As I mentioned, I didn’t know that until now. It turns out that it really isn’t much of a secret, (”I am consistently on record and will continue to be on record as opposing concealed carry”) but you wouldn’t know that from Obama’s campaign website, where you have to find his position on the 2nd Amendment under “additional issues — sportsmen” and not find anything about carry permits. The windows movie file of the video can be downloaded here. I apologize for the low quality of the audio in advance. The mp3 of the audio is here: http://courtzero.org/obamaccw.mp3
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#1. To: All, *libertarians*, *Ron Paul for President 2008* (#0)
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http://s5.gladiatus.us/game/c.php?uid=77290 Not only that. obama wants to ban .308 and .223 ammo
It's the second mouse that gets the cheese
LOL! He is either a dutifull Marxist puppet or he is saying that he wants all states to be like Vermont and Alaska, just carry, no permit required. What do you think?
Ahhh thank you. As under Clinton, I shall double my supply now. We're going to need it because it's about to hit the fan IMO
Law Enforcement Against Prohibition "Corporation: An entity created for the legal protection of its human parasites, whose sole purpose is profit and self-perpetuation." © IndieTx ROFLMAO. Sure that's what he meant!!! LMFAO!!! (Although I sense...I hope...you were joking)
Law Enforcement Against Prohibition "Corporation: An entity created for the legal protection of its human parasites, whose sole purpose is profit and self-perpetuation." © IndieTx I don't disagree with him on this one: Open Carry is the way to go.
Concealed carry has the advantage of keeping criminals guessing who's armed and who isn't. It acts as a deterrent and protects society at large. With open carry, it's pretty easy to see who ISN'T armed.
Open carry doesn't mean that you can't carry concealed - it puts 'them' even more off guard as to who my be prepared to defend themselves.
Agree. With open carry, the guy who wants to rob a store will first take out the by-standard who they know is armed.
It depends if concealed carry is prohibited or not. If people can use both, then hey, the more the merrier.
That too. The element of surprise is a major factor in surviving an armed confrontation. That applies to military assaults as well.
Yeah I know. In fact I think I posted that here on 4um right after it became apparent that Ron Paul wasn't going to have an icecube's chance in hell of winning the nomination, and Obama was head to head with Hillary. I would have prefered Hillary to either Obama or McCain, but she probably wouldn't have been much better. We'd have all the Clinton bullshit to come back to haunt us. We're basically screwed either way.
Show, or no - who know? It works both ways. An armed society, is a polite society.
We're basically screwed either way. Exactly.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
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#2. To: freepatriot32 (#0)
Obama — I want to ban concealed weapons permits
#3. To: freepatriot32 (#0)
Really, I didn’t know that Barack Obama wants to outlaw CCWs (concealed weapons permits).
#4. To: Flintlock (#2)
(Edited)
obama wants to ban .308 and .223 ammo
"There is no 'legitimate' Corporation by virtue of its very legal definition and purpose."
-- IndieTx
#5. To: eskimo (#3)
or he is saying that he wants all states to be like Vermont and Alaska, just carry, no permit required.
"There is no 'legitimate' Corporation by virtue of its very legal definition and purpose."
-- IndieTx
#6. To: freepatriot32 (#0)
#7. To: lodwick (#6)
Open Carry is the way to go.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#8. To: FormerLurker (#7)
Concealed carry has the advantage of keeping criminals guessing who's armed and who isn't. It acts as a deterrent and protects society at large. With open carry, it's pretty easy to see who ISN'T armed.
#9. To: FormerLurker (#7)
With open carry, it's pretty easy to see who ISN'T armed
#10. To: FormerLurker (#7)
#11. To: lodwick (#8)
Open carry doesn't mean that you can't carry concealed - it puts 'them' even more off guard as to who my be prepared to defend themselves.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#12. To: Rupert_Pupkin (#9)
With open carry, the guy who wants to rob a store will first take out the by-standard who they know is armed.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#13. To: TwentyTwelve (#10)
Obama Gun Control Quotes
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#14. To: FormerLurker (#11)
It depends if concealed carry is prohibited or not. If people can use both, then hey, the more the merrier.
#15. To: FormerLurker (#13)
Yeah I know. In fact I think I posted that here on 4um right after it became apparent that Ron Paul wasn't going to have an icecube's chance in hell of winning the nomination, and Obama was head to head with Hillary. I would have prefered Hillary to either Obama or McCain, but she probably wouldn't have been much better. We'd have all the Clinton bullshit to come back to haunt us.
Lord Acton
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