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Resistance See other Resistance Articles Title: One Catholic's Opposition to Prop 8: Marriage Is None Of The State's Business. California's Prop 8 is another example of divide and conquer, an issue of little significe other than to distract and divide the public, keeping the left and right fighting amongst each other. McBama and O'Cain are both criminal puppets who don't give one lick about you, your family, abortion, gay marriage, or America. Behind closed doors they are laughing at you, along with the global elite who pulls their strings. Stop being a statist. Marriage is none of the state's business. :::::::: One Catholic's Opposition to Prop 8 With all this hubub going on about Proposition 8 in California, thought I'd add my two cents worth. This Prop 8 is another example of divide and conquer, an issue of little significe other than to distract and divide the public, keeping the left and right fighting amongst each other. For those well meaning traditionalists and Christians who are worried about what the state schools teach your kids regarding marriage, if you don't know by now that your kids are not best served by keeping them far away from "public" government run schools, you're not doing your job. For those advocating homsexuality and so-called 'gay marriage', begging the state to meddle in your affairs is a sad and tragic act of ignorance. Both sides of this debate are fighting for more state intrusion into an arena where the stae should have no valid business. Let's take a look at what courts have ruled regarding marriage contracts. Do you believe, like the state does, that the state is 'guardian of your morals'? Good grief.: [8]This state is a party to every marriage contract of its own residents as well as the guardian of their morals. Roberts v. Roberts, 81 Cal App.2d 871 [Civ. no. 15818. Second Dist., Div. two. Oct 17, 1947] ------------ West V. West In fact, the entire familial relationship involves the State. When two people decide to get married, they are required to first procure a license from the State. if they have children of this marriage, they are required by the State to submit their children to certain things, such as school attendance and vaccinations. Furthermore, if at some time in the future the couple decides the marriage is not working, they must petition the State for a divorce. Marriage is a three party contrct between the man, the woman, and the State. Linneman v. Linneman 1 Ill. App 2d 48, 50, 116, N.E. 2d 182, 183 (1953), -------------- Citing Van Koten v. Van Koten... The state represents the public interest in the institution of marriage. Linneman...... This public interest is what allows the State to intervene in certain situations to protect the interests of members of the family. The State is like a silent partner in the family who is not active in the everyday running of the family but becomes active and exercises its powers and authority only when necessary to protect some important interests of family life. Taking all this into consideration, the question no longer is whether the State has an interest or place in disputes such as the one at bar, but it becomes a question of timing and necessity.... [West v. West, 689 N.E. 2d 1215 (1998)] --------------- For skeptical statist Catholics, let's look at what Pope Leo XIII wrote about state involvement in marriage in his encyclical HUMANUM GENUS (On Freemasonry) 21. What refers to domestic life in the teaching of the naturalists is almost all contained in the following declarations: that marriage belongs to the genus of commercial contracts, which can rightly be revoked by the will of those who made them, and that the civil rulers of the State have power over the matrimonial bond; that in the education of youth nothing is to be taught in the matter of religion as of certain and fixed opinion; and each one must be left at liberty to follow, when he comes of age, whatever he may prefer. To these things the Freemasons fully assent; and not only assent, but have long endeavored to make them into a law and institution. For in many countries, and those nominally Catholic, it is enacted that no marriages shall be considered lawful except those contracted by the civil rite; in other places the law permits divorce; and in others every effort is used to make it lawful as soon as may be. Thus, the time is quickly coming when marriages will be turned into another kind of contract—that is into changeable and uncertain unions which fancy may join together, and which the same when changed may disunite. With the greatest unanimity the sect of the Freemasons also endeavors to take to itself the education of youth. They think that they can easily mold to their opinions that soft and pliant age, and bend it whither they will; and that nothing can be more fitted than this to enable them to bring up the youth of the State after their own plan. Therefore, in the education and instruction of children they allow no share, either of teaching or of discipline, to the ministers of the Church; and in many places they have procured that the education of youth shall be exclusively in the hands of laymen, and that nothing which treats of the most important and most holy duties of men to God shall be introduced into the instructions on morals. I also couldn't help but notice that the plethora of "Yes on 8" signs are often accompanied by MCCAIN/PALIN signs. Obama supporters are more likely to vote no on 8. For those caught up in this nonsense, let me remind you that McBama and O'Cain are both criminal puppets who don't give one lick about you, your family, abortion, gay marriage, or America. Behind closed doors they are laughing at you, along with the global elite who pulls their strings. if you feel compelled to participate ion the fraud circus we call elections, where the possibility of your vote actually being counted is dubious at best, vote NO to more state control over our lives. The state doesn't care about you. The government doesn't care about you. The politicians don't care about you. They don't care about you. Galations 5:1 For freedom Christ set us free; so stand firm and do not submit again to the yoke of slavery. http://www.usccb.org/nab/bible/galatians/galatians5.htm "WOE TO YOU LAWYERS": Excerpt from the Gospel According to Saint Luke: 46 But he said: Woe to you lawyers also, because you load men with burdens which they cannot bear, and you yourselves touch not the packs with one of your fingers. 47 Woe to you who build the monuments of the prophets: and your fathers killed them. 48 Truly you bear witness that you consent to the doings of your fathers: for they indeed killed them, and you build their sepulchres. 49 For this cause also the wisdom of God said: I will send to them prophets and apostles; and some of them they will kill and persecute. 50 That the blood of all the prophets which was shed from the foundation of the world, may be required of this generation, While we're at it, the following is from the government's own 'social security' website: www.ssa.gov If you wait to apply at a Social Security office, you must show us proof of your child’s U.S. citizenship, age and identity, as well as proof of your own identity. We must verify your child’s birth record, which can add up to 12 weeks to the time it takes to issue a card. To verify a birth certificate, Social Security will contact the office that issued it. We do this verification to prevent people from using fraudulent birth records to obtain Social Security numbers to establish false identities. --------------- MORE INFO on state intrusion into marriage: http://sedm.org/ItemInfo/Ebooks/SovChristianMarriage/SovChristianMarriage-061121tocs.pdf Catholic paleo-libertarian from California
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