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Title: First thoughts on the election
Source: The Occidental Observer
URL Source: http://www.theoccidentalobserver.co ... al-FirstThoughts.html#thoughts
Published: Nov 5, 2008
Author: editorial staff
Post Date: 2008-11-05 12:39:12 by X-15
Keywords: None
Views: 290
Comments: 27

It would seem to be the worst of all possible results—an Obama presidency and much larger Democratic majorities in Congress. What can't be erased is the picture of adoring white faces in the crowd at Grant Park in Chicago during Obama's victory speech. They were the faces of people who had just been granted racial deliverance. Hanging on his every word, on the verge of tears of joy.

Granted, these pathetic white people do not represent the majority of white people. The CNN exit poll data indicate that 55% of whites voted for McCain, including 57% of white males and 53% of white females. In the 2004 election, 58% of whites voted for Bush.

The only white age group to vote for Obama was the 18–29 year old category—a category still under the sway of the educational system and filled with youthful idealism. 54% of them voted for Obama. Quite a few of them will grow out of it by the time they are 30—much sooner if they begin to see that the job market is stacked against them and that the Obama administration is pushing quotas.

But the bottom line is that McCain could not hold Bush's advantage among whites. This is doubtless due to the extreme unpopularity of the Bush administration—an administration that not only gave us the disastrous neocon war in Iraq but also did absolutely nothing to win the affection of its base by standing up on issues like immigration.

And McCain campaign labored under the economic crisis that, in the public's mind at least, was linked to the Bush administration. There is no question that a lot of white people put their economic fears ahead of anything else. In an economy where good jobs with good benefits are increasingly difficult to find for working people, one has to sympathize. This is another area where the Bush administration did nothing to help its natural constituency.

Nevertheless, the Republican Party remains a white party. Whites represented almost 90% of Republican votes cast in this election. Minorities voted overwhelmingly for Obama (95% of blacks, 66% of Latinos, 61% of Asians) (The LA Times says only 30% of Latinos voted for McCain — this despite McCain being the Republican poster boy for amnesty for illegals.) So much for Karl Rove's idea of expanding the Republican vote by favoring mass immigration of non-whites.

In fact, the big change between 2004 and 2008 is that much higher percentages of minorities voted for Obama than voted for Kerry (88% blacks, 53% Latino, 56% Asian). This shift in the direction of the Democrats is quite a bit greater than the shift among white people. Even though whites were less racially polarized in this election, there is little question that the Democrats have become the party of the minorities.

And the electorate itself was less white (77% in 2004, 74% in 2008). The clock keeps ticking.

In a previous editorial, we suggested that if Obama were to achieve a landslide victory, it would lead to immediate and drastic change desired by the far left. The landslide did not materialize, and no one is suggesting a mandate for drastic change. We suspect that the new administration will tread lightly and attempt to retain its white constituency by not openly advocating quotas or other issues that needlessly alienate whites. That is perhaps their best strategy for retaining power for two terms.

But such a strategy must go up against increased expectations among blacks and other minorities that their time has come. The problem for Obama and the Democrats is that white discrimination against blacks and Latinos is pretty much irrelevant to their achievement patterns. Group differences in IQ and impulse control are far larger contributors, and Obama's election is not going to change these traits.

So in the end, the only way that Obama can satisfy his black and Latino constituents is to get results by implementing programs like quota-style affirmative action and transfer payments that will alienate whites in droves.

A true post-racial leader would fight discrimination while working to convince blacks and Latinos to accept their lower socio-economic positions as an inevitable outcome of a free market. But quite obviously, the probability of that happening is right up there with pigs flying and hell freezing over.

In the end, we think that in the long run Obama's election will indeed contribute to the racial polarization of the country. Our day will come.

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#4. To: X-15 (#0)

A true post-racial leader would fight discrimination while working to convince blacks and Latinos to accept their lower socio-economic positions as an inevitable outcome of a free market. But quite obviously, the probability of that happening is right up there with pigs flying and hell freezing over

For sure, it would take hell freezing over as it is not in the minorities' best interests to become independent and responsible for themselves IF you're a liberal in power! It would take away the liberal's power!! Ain't gonna happen.

I'm interested to see how, in light of his becoming the future president, that ANYONE can maintain the need for any of these 'special' programs....after all, if a guy with questionable familial credentials, raised by grandparents for the most part can rise to the presidency, they all can!

Of course, I shall not hold my breath waiting for the fine day that any of these gubmint-enacted programs are terminated.

In this particular case, I can only imagine the angst that the likes of al and jesse would express against their 'half' brother! LOL..........they don't wanna lose their power either.

rowdee  posted on  2008-11-05   12:50:38 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: rowdee (#4)

I'm interested to see how, in light of his becoming the future president, that ANYONE can maintain the need for any of these 'special' programs....after all, if a guy with questionable familial credentials, raised by grandparents for the most part can rise to the presidency, they all can!

point..although isn't it true that obama himself was a beneficiary of affirmative action?

christine  posted on  2008-11-05   13:13:01 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: christine, rowdee (#10)

rowdee: I'm interested to see how, in light of his becoming the future president, that ANYONE can maintain the need for any of these 'special' programs....after all, if a guy with questionable familial credentials, raised by grandparents for the most part can rise to the presidency, they all can!

christine: point..although isn't it true that obama himself was a beneficiary of affirmative action?

There's no doubt whatsoever that Obama used race based Affirmative Action to his advantage for college acceptance at Columbia and Harvard Law School.

Obama got accepted into Occidental College - also an Affirmative Action believing college - even though his high school grades were mediocre as he mentions in his autobiography. Occidental is a prestigious small liberal arts college in Southern California. Obama's grades at Occidental were mediocre to average at best. But unbeknowns to most people, Occidental has a long-standing nifty policy with Columbia University, an elite Ivy, for guaranteed transfer/acceptance of Occidental students after the 2nd year based on professorial recommendations. So that's how Obama ended up with an under-graduate degree from Columbia not Occidental -Obama got the transfer to Columbia but did not graduate in the top 10 % of his class at Columbia. ( no surprise). However, although Obama was not an A student at Columbia, "remarkably" enough Obama got accepted at Harvard Law School, arguably the most competitive law school in the USA. Then while at Harvard Law School Obama got "lucky" again - Harvard had just started a minority quota requirement for editor positions on the Harvard Law Review. Obama got one of the minority editor positions. And so it goes. Obama claims he graduated summa cum laude from Harvard BUT Obama refuses to release his transcripts.

Obama is not stupid by any means, but he's not brilliant as MSM pretends he is. Obama is of average intelligence who used Affirmative Action to great advantage. Without Affirmative Action at his disposal, there's no way Obama would have risen to here he is today, imo.

Anyways here's Obama's current [ ie. interview that took place on April 29, 2008] "fuzzy" stance on whether or not Affirmative Action has a place in society today:

www.boston.com/news/natio...ama_intriguing_but_vague/

"On affirmative action, Obama intriguing but vague" Boston Globe

...So when ABC's George Stephanopoulos, in the waning minutes of the Pennsylvania debate, asked Obama for his views about affirmative action, Obama's answer was a microcosm of the strengths - and some of the recently apparent weaknesses - of his campaign: The Illinois senator's reply was intriguing but fuzzy, responsive to voters' underlying concerns but not really specific in policy terms.

Obama began, "Well, I think that the basic principle that should guide discussions not just of affirmative action, but how we are admitting young people to college generally, is how do we make sure that we're providing ladders of opportunity for people? How do we make sure that every child in America has a decent shot in pursuing their dreams?"

Acknowledging that "race is still a factor in society," Obama nonetheless suggested that his own daughters, who've had "a pretty good deal," might not be deserving of special treatment.

But he added: "I still believe in affirmative action as a means of overcoming both historic and potentially current discrimination, but I think that it can't be a quota system and it can't be something that is simply applied without looking at the whole person, whether that person is black, or white, or Hispanic, male or female. What we want to do is make sure that people who've been locked out of opportunity are going to be able to walk through those doors of opportunity in the future."

It was a fine answer, seemingly well received by voters and media watchdogs. But affirmative action isn't a vision, but a policy designed to give preferences to students whose opportunities have been limited by past discrimination. The Supreme Court has said that for public universities to justify an affirmative-action plan, they must show evidence of historic discrimination, such as a past refusal to consider black applicants.

It's hard to see how discrimination against some of the other groups Obama mentions, such as lower-income whites, could meet the Supreme Court's standard.

Be that as it may, Obama left unclear whether he was talking about creating actual written affirmative-action plans to favor lower-income whites, Hispanics, women, or others whose circumstances may be less fortunate.

He may have just meant to point out that a thoughtful college-admissions system would consider "the whole person" - his or her academic record, background, leadership skills, obstacles overcome, and more. If so, Obama is envisioning an admissions system quite similar to those in place at many universities, where boards look not just at test scores and grades, as in many European countries, but at intangible credentials as well...

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#15. To: scrapper2 (#12)

However, although Obama was not an A student at Columbia, "remarkably" enough Obama got accepted at Harvard Law School, arguably the most competitive law school in the USA. Then while at Harvard Law School Obama got "lucky" again - Harvard had just started a minority quota requirement for editor positions on the Harvard Law Review. Obama got one of the minority editor positions. And so it goes. Obama claims he graduated summa cum laude from Harvard BUT Obama refuses to release his transcripts.

bottom line. Obama wouldn't be where he is today were it not for affirmative action. the blowback he would get were he to consider limiting or abolishing it would be colossal.

christine  posted on  2008-11-05 17:53:42 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: scrapper2 (#12)

The pied piper spoke and everyone heard what they wanted to hear....nothing made into 'something' of their own mind's creation.

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