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Title: The silliness of "free will" in scripture
Source: me
URL Source: [None]
Published: Nov 6, 2008
Author: Moi
Post Date: 2008-11-06 11:10:13 by PSUSA
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Views: 42

Instead of continuing another thread hijack...

First of all, the only copying/pasting I will do is with scripture, and anothers posts.

Richard said: "And I also understand that as long as you adhere to such beliefs, that god is evil (to create evil he has to be at least a part evil), then you will not change. "

Excuse me, but I never once said that God was evil. I said, and more importantly SCRIPTURE says, that God creates evil along with peace, and God KNOWS evil. But you ignore scripture that does not fit your sects doctrines. That is fine by me, just so you know what you are doing.

Richard says: "Amazing. Almighty God can not lie, and, He can not violate your free will, which He created. Of course, if He were to be evil as well as good, He could lie, just as He could torment 'souls' forever, and, He could violate your free will. Amazing what the world believes, contrary to what the Bible teaches."

God does not lie. But God does send lying spirits. Call it "lying by proxy". God does also send "strong delusion". Here is some more scripture I am sure you will ignore.

1 Kings 22 And the LORD said unto him, Wherewith? And he said, I will go forth, and I will be a lying spirit in the mouth of all his prophets. And he said, Thou shalt persuade him, and prevail also: go forth, and do so. 23 Now therefore, behold, the LORD hath put a lying spirit in the mouth of all these thy prophets, and the LORD hath spoken evil concerning thee.

Exodus 12 23 For the LORD will pass through to smite the Egyptians; and when he seeth the blood upon the lintel, and on the two side posts, the LORD will pass over the door, and will not suffer the destroyer to come in unto your houses to smite you.

Imagine that. God Himself kills these Egyptians, after HE hardens Pharoahs' heart. So much for his "god given free will".

Exodus 4 21 And the LORD said unto Moses, When thou goest to return into Egypt, see that thou do all those wonders before Pharaoh, which I have put in thine hand: but I will harden his heart, that he shall not let the people go.

Now how many other times in scripture does God "violate" anothers "free will"? Does anyone believe that this is the only example?

Conversations like this tend to just go in circles, I realize that. I can, and do, address every point made, but for some reason ;) that is never reciprocated.

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