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Title: First Trial against an US Surgeon for Killing a Patient to Harvest Organs Begins
Source: lifesitenews
URL Source: http://www.lifesitenews.com/ldn/2008/nov/08110607.html
Published: Nov 6, 2008
Author: Jonquil Frankham
Post Date: 2008-11-06 21:25:48 by Jhoffa_
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Comments: 7

First Trial against an US Surgeon for Killing a Patient to Harvest Organs Begins

CALIFORNIA, November 6, 2008 (LifeSiteNews.com) – A San Francisco surgeon is undergoing trial for allegedly hastening the death of a terminally ill patient to harvest his vital organs.

The case against Hootan Roozrokh is believed to be the first of its kind brought against an American transplant surgeon.

Rosa Navarro, the patient’s mother, successfully filed suit against the hospital where the patient died and received $250,000 in compensation. Now the District Attorney’s office is pressing charges against the 34-year-old surgeon for “dependent adult abuse, administering a harmful substance and prescribing controlled substances without a legitimate medical purpose.”

Roozrokh is also being charged with giving the 25-year old Ruben Navarro an antiseptic called Betadine, normally administered to an organ donor after death, via feeding tube to the stomach. Some commentators suggest the antiseptic was ultimately responsible for the patient’s death.

Roozrokh attempted to induce what is known as “cardiac death,” a new criteria for determining “death,” by delivering abnormally high doses of painkillers in order to retrieve vital organs from Ruben Navarro. “Cardiac death” is distinct from “brain death,” an older criterion for determining death that requires a cessation of all brain function prior to harvesting vital organs.

Toronto physician and LifeSiteNews medical adviser Dr. John Shea, MD, FRCP (C), says that in order to determine if a patient meets the “cardiac death” criteria the patient’s respirator is removed while the heart is still beating.

“If the heart stopped beating within an hour, the surgeon waited two to five minutes before taking out the organs. If the heart had not stopped beating within an hour, the patient would be returned to a hospital bed to die without any further treatment,” writes Dr. Shea.

On January 29, 2006, Ruben Navarro stopped breathing on his own, and was put on a respirator. On February 3 he still had not recovered consciousness, though his mother claimed she saw “signs of recovery.”

Medical staff then removed Navarro to the operating room and withdrew his respirator, claiming that hospital policy required them to “pull the plug” after five days on life support without patient recovery. Navarro continued to live, however, and Dr. Roozrokh, is reported to have then told nurses, “Let's just give him some more candy.” The patient was given high doses of morphine and Ativan to hasten death.

Navarro’s heart continued to beat, and after one hour his organs were no longer considered useable. He was removed from the operating room and died several hours later.

Besides the ambiguity surrounding the actual moment of death, Dr. Shea writes that harvesting organs at either the point of brain death or cardiac death creates a conflict of interest on the part of the attending physician and fosters a “utilitarian” approach to life and death.

According to California state law, in order to avoid potential conflicts of interest, transplant surgeons cannot direct the care of potential donors while the patient is still in treatment. In this case, however, sources have reported to police that, contrary to that requirement, Dr. Roozrokh was directing the administration of drugs to Mr. Navarro while in the operating room.

Writing about the “utilitarian rationale” behind the invention of the “brain death” criterion, Shea says that “it was no longer the interest of the dying to avoid being declared ‘dead’ prematurely, but the community’s interest in declaring a dying person dead as soon as possible.” Shea’s criticisms would also apply to the “cardiac death” criterion.

The utilitarian approach to life and death that is increasingly pervading the organ donation industry is obvious from an article published this October by two Oxford scholars, which suggests that, rather than ensuring that brain death and cardiac death are indeed true death, “we could abandon the dead donor rule," as LifeSiteNews reported.

“We could for example, allow organs to be taken from people who are not brain dead, but who have suffered such severe injury that they would be permanently unconscious, like Terry Schiavo, who would be allowed to die anyway by removal of their medical treatment," wrote Julian Savulescu, the Uehiro Chair of Practical Ethics at the University of Oxford, and neonatologist and Oxford graduate student Dominic Wilkinson

Bioethics International writes that the Roozrokh case “is likely to raise uneasiness among potential organ donors and could prompt doctors to shy away from a somewhat controversial practice of retrieving organs before a patient is brain dead.”

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#1. To: Jhoffa_ (#0)

Bioethics International writes that the Roozrokh case “is likely to raise uneasiness among potential organ donors and could prompt doctors to shy away from a somewhat controversial practice of retrieving organs before a patient is brain dead.”

And to think the Nazis were called barbaric??

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IndieTX  posted on  2008-11-06   21:43:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: IndieTX (#1)

Bioethics International writes that the Roozrokh case “is likely to raise uneasiness among potential organ donors..

Bit of an understatement, eh?

Jhoffa_  posted on  2008-11-06   21:45:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Jhoffa_ (#0)

Why the source dosent' mention that Hootan Roozrokh is a jewish doctor, It is an israeli act: Israel Kills Palestinian Boys, Steals Organs For Transplants .... and Gastarbeiter family permission to harvest organs is so dependable, that Gastarbeiter ... www.voicesofpalestine.org/outrageous/organtraffic.asp http://www.voicesofpalestine.org/outrageous/organtraffic.asp

Israeli tanks kill seven Palestinians, including mother and four young ... Iranian TV: “Israelis Harvest Organs from Palestinian Children” by MEMRIs ... uprootedpalestinians.blogspot.com/2008/10/born-to-kill-israel-deliberately.html

I cannot imagine how hard it would have to be to try to explain that the Israelis are not in fact killing Palestinian children to harvest their organs to ... www.inthebullpen.com/?p=1712

KILLING PALESTINIANS AT A RATIO OF "8 to 1" YEAR AFTER YEAR AND THEN CLAIMING ... of organ harvest right there.... she is comedy on calipers isnt she? ... www.youtube.com/watch?v=6A-PtP_-Vrc

"Hootan Roozrokh is the name of the doctor who is charged with a heinous ...... Her mother had a Jewish origin. Sarah’s stage career began in 1862 while she ... www.xyhd.tv/category/random-news/page/2/"

Max  posted on  2008-11-06   23:16:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Max, Jhoffa_ (#3) (Edited)

The utilitarian approach to life and death that is increasingly pervading the organ donation industry is obvious from an article published this October by two Oxford scholars, which suggests that, rather than ensuring that brain death and cardiac death are indeed true death, “we could abandon the dead donor rule," as LifeSiteNews reported.

“We could for example, allow organs to be taken from people who are not brain dead, but who have suffered such severe injury that they would be permanently unconscious, like Terry Schiavo, who would be allowed to die anyway by removal of their medical treatment,"

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Why the source dosent' mention that Hootan Roozrokh is a jewish doctor, It is an israeli act: Israel Kills Palestinian Boys, Steals Organs For Transplants ..

That was my first thought, too, and the fact that this is the desired outcome of the Terri Schiavo murder-for-precedent.

Never forget we are just cattle, and our purpose is to serve the self-chosen in WHATEVER capacity:

Noachide Judges and Courts will Replace the Existing Court System ... .... Rabbi Yitzhak Ginsburgh, a leading member of the Habad Hasids, proposed that if a Jew needs a liver, it is permissible to take the life of an innocent non-Jew to obtain that liver. ...... http://www.cephas-library.com/nw...ts_will_replace_ours.html

Organ transplants are big business for the Rockefellers and others. I was going to just post a link to the following, but coincidentally, it appears to have been exchanged with a different website:

www.cloakanddagger.de/skolnick/chinesesp3.html

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THE RED CHINESE SECRET POLICE IN THE UNITED STATES,

Part Three of a Series

by Sherman H. Skolnick

The Human Body Parts Business and the Rockefeller Hospitals

Eating lunch one day in a well-known south-east side restaurant in Chicago was the State Senator representing the Hyde Park district. After he finished eating, since he knew of me, and I was at the next table, he allowed me to interview him with my tiny tape recorder.

I asked him a few routine question. And then I asked, "How did you come to represent Rockefeller's University of Chicago?" (which is the dominant force in Hyde Park). "Rockefeller's University of Chicago?" he asked, puzzled, like I was just bringing up an unfounded rumor. To try to undercut my question, he added "I own six acres of land in Texas. So far as I know, oil has not been discovered there."

In its simplest form, censorship is never bringing up routine facts when they are pertinent. Or denying known facts. On land they supposedly owned, the Rockefellers founded the University of Chicago sometimes before the 20th Century. [Some claim the land was actually stolen by them. Considering their history, that would not be unusual. The Rockefeller fortune was founded on murders and bombings. To begin to understand, read the series of books from early in the 20th Century by Ida Tarbell.] With their ancient look, the gothic buildings on the University of Chicago campus include a group of hospitals. These stone fortresses seem to represent a hardened view of the world. [In more recent years, some modern looking buildings were added.] An example, is one such place with an almost unknown history. It is called the Home for Destitute Crippled Children. In the 1930s, a well-known orthopedic surgeon there took time off to visit Nazi Germany. He came back, pro-Hitler, and refused to administer the only Jewish child in the hospital.

In the 1980s, on campus was a seminar on Germany and World War Two. I asked a question about the pro-Hitler past of the University and their hospitals. A seminar participant, Milt Rosenberg, demanded I turn off my tape recorder and that my question not be answered. [A forbidden subject: Rosenberg reportedly speaks for the Jewish aristocracy, not the common people, that favored Hitler.] With an intelligence agency background, Rosenberg has for many years conducted a talk show on the Chicago Tribune-owned WGN Radio. His Tribune bosses in the past were very pro-Nazi.

Is it still a secret that after World War Two, the newly-created American CIA brought Nazi war criminals to America to the University of Chicago, to supposedly promote "science"? Documents showing this are in the on-campus Regenstein Library, Rare Books Collection. Not supposed to be copied but we did copy them. Also see: "Project Paperclip" by Clarence Lasby.

A heavily-documented book spells out the details of the Rockefellers collaborating with the Nazis: "Trading With the Enemy-The Nazi-American Money Plot 1933-1949" by Charles Higham, Barnes and Noble Books, N.Y., re-issued 1995.

The Rockefeller family did business with the Nazis all during World War Two, to the detriment of the common Americans who fought and died in the conflict. When the U.S. was sucked into the war, the Rockefellers'Standard Oil of New Jersey refused to participate in the manufacture of synthetic rubber tires for the U.S. war effort. They had a deal with the German petro-chemical octopus, I.G. Farben, to split patents and royalties. War or no war, Standard Oil was not going to counter the secretive deals. Few ordinary Americans knew of this treasonous arrangement. Some still do not know.

So, by the 21st Century, the press seldom mention the Rockefellers linked to the Unversity of Chicago and their hospitals and such. A rare example, however: "The University of Chicago wants to break the contract it made with John D. Rockefeller, Jr. to operate the International House so that it can turn the property over to its profit-making business school, students and their supporters charged in a class-action lawsuit filed Tuesday in Cook County Circuit Court....In 1930, John D. Rockefeller, Jr. agreed to donate the land on which International House is located." Chicago Sun-Times, 4/12/2000. [You will read about that newspaper and the Red Chinese Secret Police in a further part of this series.]

Over a period of years, the Rockefeller's University of Chicago hospitals became major advertisers in the local newspapers, on local radio and TV. So no paid reporters who valued their jobs would ever write negatives about the Rockefellers and submit it to their editors.

By the 1970s, the Rockefeller-owned First National Bank of Chicago began to loan billions of dollars to Red China. Nixon as President paved the way for this. [You can thus understand why, after Nixon resigned in 1974, he was given a townhouse to live in Manhattan, wall-to-wall with David Rockefeller.] Also paving the way was George Herbert Walker Bush, who aided the Red Chinese Secret Police operations in the U.S., when Bush was head of America's secret political police. And he continued, when he was Envoy to Red China in the late 1970s.

The Red Chinese promised to pay back the loans with gold supposedly from their western provinces. BUT: they never allowed westerners to inspect these "gold mines". Among the ways the Red Chinese paid back the Rockefellers was flooding dope, from Southwest China into the U.S. via Chicago. Their dope is referred to by law enforcement as "China White". The Rockefeller-dominated press seldom, if ever, discuss thus. Instead they bombard us with talk about dope from Mexico and Colombia.

As I have written, the proceeds from dope and other such contraband is laundered, disguised as "soybean" and "foreign currency" deals on the Chicago markets: The Chicago Board of Trade, the Chicago Mercantile Exchange, the Chicago Board Options Exchange, and the Chicago Stock Exchange. The highly corrupt U.S. Drug Enforcement Administration is willfully blind to "China White". And as we have said, Rockefeller agent, James "Big Jim" Thompson, former Illinois governor, is reportedly instrumental in the dope traffic arrangements worldwide. Another form of business with Red China, supervised by their secret police there and in the United States, is the human organ business. Human body parts are bought and sold like parts for a car.

On January 9, 2000, a story in the South China Sunday Morning Post tried to blunt the impact of this, by implying that the Red Chinese harvest human organs from their political prisoners for USE ONLY IN CHINA. They said a Southern Chinese hospital is selling livers from executed prisoners to wealthy Asian transplant patients. Undercover reporters were urged to book a liver from a "good young" prisoner during the then current spate of mass executions that precedes the Chinese New Year.

"Our experience tells us that there are many organs before the Lunar New Year", a doctor from the Sun Yat Sen University Hospital in Guangzhou told the newspaper. "If you miss this chance, you may have to wait until Labour Day".

China has always insisted that donations are voluntary. But doctors from the hospital told the newspaper that consent was not required for criminals and most organs came from executed prisoners. The hospital, which subsequently denied the doctors' comments, charges about 20 thousand pounds for a liver transplant. [Cheap by Chicago standards.] Rockefeller's University of Chicago Hospitals are the largest so-called "transplant center" for human body parts in Illinois, if not the entire U.S.

" 'Thirty percent of liver transplant patients are from out of state, and about one-third more of kidney and pancreas transplant (patients) are from out of state,' says Dr. Michael Millis, head of the liver transplant program at University of Chicago Hospitals. 'We should have an expanded donor pool to draw from.' U. of C. performs more transplants than any other hospital in the state. In 1998, it performed 288 procedures, or more than 22% of all transplants in Illinois, including 78 liver transplants, according to the Illinois Health Care Containment Council." Crain's Chicago Business, 3/13/2000.

The newspaper pointed out that "a liver transplant averages $241,000".

Rockefellers' hospitals are reportedly a center for the human body parts from Red China, supervised by the Red Chinese Secret Police IN THE UNITED STATES. The whole procedure is highly clandestine. One cannot expect the Rockefellers and their hospitals, cozy with the pressfakers, will ever admit this. If ever forced to answer, which is doubtful, they will certainly vigorously deny this.

[An example of denial: I interviewed on tape an official of the Rockefeller's University of Chicago Hospitals Public Relations, regarding Gulf War Syndrome. He said there is no such thing and that a doctor on their staff had been a key person on a semi-government group that came to the same conclusion. I told him that sources at their hospitals contend that some doctors and nurses themselves have somehow reportedly contracted this "Gulf War Syndrome" and are severely ill if not dying. In so many words, he said it is all in their mind. And the hospitals only treat the matter as different forms of ailments, he said. So if the medical people themselves are sick with this "imaginary" syndrome and are severely ill or dying, somebody should say, "Get up out of your bed, Doctor, it is all in your imagination. And if your wife has given birth to misformed children, or your children are themselves sick with the same syndrome, or your dogs or cats---it is all in their imagination, doctor."]

How does the transplant business reportedly work? Young, healthy political dissidents in Red China are put in jail. [Funny thing, about 3 per cent of those in U.S. jails are likewise political dissidents that some believe were framed up. In some parts of the U.S., the jail population has ballooned by 700 per cent in 30 years.Note the Clinton/Arkansas scandal of selling prisoners HiV-tainted blood to Canada, resulting in a number of deaths.]

Here is how orders for human body parts are filled from the prison/warehouse in Red China. So they are informed that there is an order for a human heart, kidney, lung, liver, pancreas, and such in Chicago. The Red Chinese political prisoners are condemned to death on a human-organ-when-needed basis. The doomed prisoners are not shot but beheaded. That way, their organs are not damaged. Then the parts are packed and quickly shipped to Chicago. Those in the shipment business usually do not ask questions. [Remember the stories of airplanes bringing into the U.S. containers marked "medical items" from Central America, which actually contained cocaine. A favorite trick of the secret police, such as the American CIA.]

And the authorities at the airports and other shipping points are willfully blind. Like the corrupt DEA top officials, they do not know about or see "China White" flooding into the U.S. via Chicago. Or human body parts reportedly headed for the Rockefeller Hospitals.

And where does some of the money from the "transplant business" go, supervised by the Red Chinese Secret Police? Some is washed through the Chicago markets, like dope proceeds, disguised as something else, such as "soybean" or "foreign exchange" trading. Some ends up in Rockefeller's University of Chicago billion dollar stock portfolio, which includes huge investments in Red China. And who reportedly supervises that? Why, two Rockefeller cronies, formerly law professors at the University of Chicago Law School: 7th Circuit U.S. Court of Appeals Chief Judge Richard A. Posner [(312)435-5806] and his court shadow/sidekick, 7th Circuit U.S. Court of Appeals Judge Frank H. Easterbrook [(312) 435-5808].

Because I and a TV assistant of mine, Joseph Andreuccetti, have pointed out these things about the two federal appeals judges, on behalf of the Rockefellers, the two Judges have ordered that we are BARRED from all the federal courts in Illinois, Wisconsin, and Indiana. [Do not waste my time explaining to us our First Amendment rights which have thus been cancelled. And the multi-multi-millionaires, owned by the Rockefellers, on the U.S. Supreme Court have refused us a remedy.]

The French secret police have a crack team in Chicago watching all this for themselves. They have their own beef with the Red Chinese secret police.

To confuse matters and divert attention from what is really going on, the Clinton White House has been picking a bone with some members of Congress. Regarding who gets first choice of human organs. That whole issue evades the secret importing of human organs from Red China. The first choice goes to the one who pays the price, not the one most in need. The ultra-rich, when they need a transplant, they ask no questions and are not interested in how the Red Chinese Secret Police arrange to have political dissidents beheaded, the body parts shipped to Chicago, and some of the proceeds laundered in Chicago.

Among the "liars and whores of the press", are key people in a position to know but are silent. Do not waste my time that I should talk to the Chicago Tribune or the New York Times, or any of the pressfakers. This has to be a public issue, without submitting it to be approved by the monopoly press.

=============

edit:

“We could for example, allow organs to be taken from people who are not brain dead, but who have suffered such severe injury that they would be permanently unconscious, like Terry Schiavo,

forgot to mention that that is another lie propagated by the Jewish-controlled mass media. Terri was NOT unconscious....she was deprived of rehabilitation by her husband and the Jewish lawyer he hired [with her rehab money] to get rid of her.

"...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2008-11-12   13:04:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: IndieTX (#1)

CALIFORNIA, November 6, 2008 (LifeSiteNews.com) – A San Francisco surgeon is undergoing trial for allegedly hastening the death of a terminally ill patient to harvest his vital organs.

==================

And to think the Nazis were called barbaric??

Eugenics and the Nazis -- the California [AND ROCKEFELLER] connection California was considered an epicenter of the American eugenics movement. .... Nazi doctors would become the unseen generals in Hitler's war against the ... www.waragainsttheweak.com...www.sfgate.com/index.html

EXCERPT:

"....Only after eugenics became entrenched in the United States was the campaign transplanted into Germany, in no small measure through the efforts of California eugenicists, who published booklets idealizing sterilization and circulated them to German officials and scientists.

Hitler studied American eugenics laws. He tried to legitimize his anti- Semitism by medicalizing it, and wrapping it in the more palatable pseudoscientific facade of eugenics. Hitler was able to recruit more followers among reasonable Germans by claiming that science was on his side. Hitler's race hatred sprung from his own mind, but the intellectual outlines of the eugenics Hitler adopted in 1924 were made in America.

During the '20s, Carnegie Institution eugenic scientists cultivated deep personal and professional relationships with Germany's fascist eugenicists. In "Mein Kampf," published in 1924, Hitler quoted American eugenic ideology and openly displayed a thorough knowledge of American eugenics. "There is today one state," wrote Hitler, "in which at least weak beginnings toward a better conception (of immigration) are noticeable. Of course, it is not our model German Republic, but the United States."

Hitler proudly told his comrades just how closely he followed the progress of the American eugenics movement. "I have studied with great interest," he told a fellow Nazi, "the laws of several American states concerning prevention of reproduction by people whose progeny would, in all probability, be of no value or be injurious to the racial stock."

Hitler even wrote a fan letter to American eugenics leader Madison Grant, calling his race-based eugenics book, "The Passing of the Great Race," his "bible."

Now, the American term "Nordic" was freely exchanged with "Germanic" or "Aryan." Race science, racial purity and racial dominance became the driving force behind Hitler's Nazism. Nazi eugenics would ultimately dictate who would be persecuted in a Reich-dominated Europe, how people would live, and how they would die. Nazi doctors would become the unseen generals in Hitler's war against the Jews and other Europeans deemed inferior. Doctors would create the science, devise the eugenic formulas, and hand-select the victims for sterilization, euthanasia and mass extermination.

During the Reich's early years, eugenicists across America welcomed Hitler's plans as the logical fulfillment of their own decades of research and effort. California eugenicists republished Nazi propaganda for American consumption. They also arranged for Nazi scientific exhibits, such as an August 1934 display at the L.A. County Museum, for the annual meeting of the American Public Health Association.

In 1934, as Germany's sterilizations were accelerating beyond 5,000 per month, the California eugenics leader C. M. Goethe, upon returning from Germany, ebulliently bragged to a colleague, "You will be interested to know that your work has played a powerful part in shaping the opinions of the group of intellectuals who are behind Hitler in this epoch-making program. Everywhere I sensed that their opinions have been tremendously stimulated by American thought . . . I want you, my dear friend, to carry this thought with you for the rest of your life, that you have really jolted into action a great government of 60 million people."

That same year, 10 years after Virginia passed its sterilization act, Joseph DeJarnette, superintendent of Virginia's Western State Hospital, observed in the Richmond Times-Dispatch, "The Germans are beating us at our own game."

More than just providing the scientific roadmap, America funded Germany's eugenic institutions.

By 1926, Rockefeller had donated some $410,000 -- almost $4 million in today's money -- to hundreds of German researchers. In May 1926, Rockefeller awarded $250,000 toward creation of the Kaiser Wilhelm Institute for Psychiatry. Among the leading psychiatrists at the German Psychiatric Institute was Ernst Rüdin, who became director and eventually an architect of Hitler's systematic medical repression.

Another in the Kaiser Wilhelm Institute's complex of eugenics institutions was the Institute for Brain Research. Since 1915, it had operated out of a single room. Everything changed when Rockefeller money arrived in 1929. A grant of $317,000 allowed the institute to construct a major building and take center stage in German race biology. The institute received additional grants from the Rockefeller Foundation during the next several years. Leading the institute, once again, was Hitler's medical henchman Ernst Rüdin. Rüdin's organization became a prime director and recipient of the murderous experimentation and research conducted on Jews, Gypsies and others.

Beginning in 1940, thousands of Germans taken from old age homes, mental institutions and other custodial facilities were systematically gassed. Between 50,000 and 100,000 were eventually killed.

Leon Whitney, executive secretary of the American Eugenics Society, declared of Nazism, "While we were pussy-footing around ... the Germans were calling a spade a spade." ....."

www.waragainsttheweak.com...www.sfgate.com/index.html

"...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2008-11-12   14:14:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Jhoffa_ (#0)

Rosa Navarro

What's the problem? The reason wetbacks are being allowed in is so they'll be indentured servants. If their organs are harvested before they're dead, isn't that just an added bonus?

I'm sure the weathy aren't complaining about this.

Turtle's secret Indian name is Two Stuck Dogs.

Turtle  posted on  2008-11-12   15:39:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#5) (Edited)

Rockefeller money arrived in 1929

Wow. The theory that elite jews were complicit in all that has happened, both in Nazi Germany and AmeriKa and are, in fact, the hidden hand behind the New Verld Order...is it just a "theory?"

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