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Title: Palin calls attacks 'cruel' and 'cowardly'
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URL Source: http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/11/07/mccain.palin/index.html
Published: Nov 7, 2008
Author: CNN
Post Date: 2008-11-07 20:44:57 by christine
Keywords: None
Views: 4093
Comments: 155

Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin called former aides of Sen. John McCain "jerks" for circulating unflattering stories about her since the Republican ticket lost its bid for the White House Tuesday.

Sources close to John McCain say Sarah Palin was denied a chance to speak at McCain's concession address.

The stories, which have been attributed to unnamed sources within the McCain campaign, include claims that Palin did not know Africa was a continent instead of a country, or which countries are part of the North American Free Trade Agreement, despite touting her familiarity with neighboring Canada.

Speaking with CNN's Gary Tuchman after returning to Alaska, Palin speculated those stories may have originated with campaign staffers who helped her prepare for her debate with Democratic Vice President-elect Joe Biden.

"Those were taken out of context and that's cruel," Palin said. "It's mean-spirited. It's immature. It's unprofessional and those guys are jerks if they came away with it, taking things out of context, and then tried to spread something on national news."

One source involved in preparing Palin for interviews and the vice-presidential debate told CNN "she had not paid attention to a single policy debate that's gone on in this country for 10 years."

Palin told Tuchman she remembers having conversations about NAFTA and Africa during her preparations, but that the stories about her "are not true." She said it was "cowardly" for staffers to make claims about her anonymously.

"It's not fair and it's not right." Watch CNN's Gary Tuchman's interview with Palin »

Two McCain sources said they were furious about Palin's supposed call Saturday with French President Nicolas Sarkozy, which turned out to be a prank by two radio DJs.

A source close to Palin told CNN that she had prepared to deliver a concession speech Tuesday night, and expected to address the crowd at the Arizona Biltmore in Phoenix, Arizona.

Several sources told CNN that McCain senior adviser Steve Schmidt told Palin no, in part because of built-up anger among some McCain aides who say Palin had become more interested in her own future than in McCain's election. Palin denies that claim. Watch what's being said about Palin »

There have also been reports of a somewhat distant relationship between McCain and his running mate.

"This is so unfortunate and, quite honestly, sickening," Palin aide Meghan Stapleton said Thursday in a written statement.

"The accusations we are hearing and reading are not true, and since we deny all these anonymous allegations, there is nothing specific to which we will respond. Watch more about the infighting »

"We have the highest regards for Sen. John McCain. Gov. Palin was honored to be chosen as McCain's running mate. And as governor of Alaska, Gov. Palin looks forward to working with President-elect Obama on securing energy independence for America."

On Election Day, Palin denied there was tension. Once back in Alaska, she said she would not respond to individual accusations. Watch Palin discuss the controversy »

"I won't comment on anyone's gossip or allegations that are based on anonymous sources," she said. "That's kind of a small, evidently bitter type of person, who would anonymously charge something foolish like that -- that I perhaps didn't know an answer to a question. So until I know who was talking about it, I won't have a comment on false allegations."

In response to the allegations that she was ill-prepared for interviews and debate, Randy Scheunemann, an aide assigned to Palin, called her "brilliant" and said she has a "photographic memory."

Despite the acrimony, many McCain aides say they are sad the campaign team dissolved so quickly.


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#115. To: Jhoffa_ (#99)

Anyone who thinks she cost him the election should perhaps look at who chose her in the first place. That would be McCain.

There's no doubt mcTraitor would have lost by double digits without palin.

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2008-11-09   11:48:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#116. To: Rotara (#113)

Sarah Palin Is Pro Amnesty For Illegal Aliens - Univision Interview

That is political and fair game.

Whether or not she is a whore or worse is not political.

Example...If one delves into McKooKs closet, we would be able to label him a...whore master...But that did not happen as he is finished on the national scene.

We either have a lot of homosexuals here that hate women, or people that are shoveling manure for the system. Maybe both.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-11-09   11:52:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#117. To: Cynicom (#116)

That is political and fair game.

Whether or not she is a whore or worse is not political.

There's no doubt she's (now at least) a political whore.

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2008-11-09   11:53:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#118. To: Cynicom (#116)

Example...If one delves into McKooKs closet, we would be able to label him a...whore master...But that did not happen as he is finished on the national scene.

McTraitorwhore

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2008-11-09   11:53:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#119. To: Cynicom (#116)

We either have a lot of homosexuals here that hate women, or people that are shoveling manure for the system. Maybe both.

Certainly both. Comes with their depraved territory.

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2008-11-09   11:54:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#120. To: Rotara (#113)

I hope we never hear from her again. Sarah Palin Is Pro Amnesty For Illegal Aliens - Univision Interview

i'm with you. it's her politics. now if she begins talking like a Ron Paul republican, i'll listen.

christine  posted on  2008-11-09   12:04:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#121. To: christine (#120)

now if she begins talking like a Ron Paul republican, i'll listen.

The fear to the system is that Palin just MIGHT strike out on her own.

The Huckabees, Romneys etc etc are not about to share party control with Palin nor any other outsider.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-11-09   12:07:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#122. To: Christine (#120)

i'm with you. it's her politics. now if she begins talking like a Ron Paul republican, i'll listen.

I'll wonder. ;-)

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2008-11-09   12:08:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#123. To: Cynicom, Christine (#121)

The Huckabees, Romneys etc etc are not about to share party control with Palin nor any other outsider.

I'm still not sure her outsider image is true. Israel vetted her a long time ago and found her well suited to boost the last charade.

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2008-11-09   12:10:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#124. To: Rotara (#123)

I'm still not sure her outsider image is true. Israel vetted her a long time ago and found her well suited to boost the last charade.

Had you ever heard of her before????

I had'nt nor neither had most Americans.

Zionists certainly would have never promoted someone so stupid, ignorant and a whore, would they?

Cynicom  posted on  2008-11-09   12:13:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#125. To: Cynicom (#124)

If she's serious, she'll get back to the business of AK seceding. Of course I'd be glad to help THAT cause. ;-)

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2008-11-09   12:18:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#126. To: Rotara (#115)

There's no doubt mcTraitor would have lost by double digits without palin.

That's the way I see it..

With 8 years of Dubya's "legacy" then the bailout, topped off by McCain's own neo-tarded message around their ankle's like a ball & chain, what did anyone expect?

She didn't lose it for them.. If anyone is to blame here it's McCain and Dubya.

~ Your failure to be informed, does not make me a wacko.

Jhoffa_  posted on  2008-11-09   12:41:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#127. To: Jhoffa_ (#126)

I can't believe mcCain was anything but the fall guy, an acceptable 2nd if all measures to ensure the outcome were blown open.

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2008-11-09   12:44:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#128. To: Jhoffa_ (#126)

If anyone is to blame here it's McCain and Dubya.

Those two attacked "Conservatives" and will be the last memory of the GOP that Constitutionalists will have. Dr. Ron (R) is an aberration at this point. The National Party locked up the whole thing and eliminated opposition (the remnant of the GOP).

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2008-11-09   12:46:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#129. To: Rotara (#128)

The narrative says there will now be a "war" for the "heart" of the party.

In reality, they'll just repackage the same message and peddle it again in 2010.

We need a divorce.

~ Your failure to be informed, does not make me a wacko.

Jhoffa_  posted on  2008-11-09   12:50:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#130. To: Jhoffa_ (#129)

The narrative says there will now be a "war" for the "heart" of the party.

In reality, they'll just repackage the same message and peddle it again in 2010.

We need a divorce.

It became clear to me, once and for all, that politics are a waste of time now and it's over save for the 'what comes next'; fight, flee or capitulate.

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2008-11-09   12:52:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#131. To: Jethro Tull, Cynicom, All (#95)

Ya know, JT, I woke up this morning thinking about this, with all the brouhaha trying to make her out to be some DIVA.

Well, I've got a big old question........how many women in the world do you or any other man, or woman, for that matter, know that would be considered a DIVA by anyones' standards that is as outdoorsy, shoot, gut, and skin out a moose, or cut and clean fish type? How many divas does anyone know that can pick up a gun, let alone shoot it as well as a man? How many women does anyone know that has 5 kids who have all had puke and shitty diapers that think they're a diva?

Beyond the sour grapes of jealous wimmen and queers, this is definitely an attempt to plant something in the background for history and in the minds of people........and as Cyni says, "Who".........others might say, "Why", and then others will simply march in lock step calling her a whore (with no evidence to support this smear), stupid (again without evidence), blah blah blah.

And if you consider some more of the whine--like they couldn't get her to listen to their indoctrination so she could be interviewed, and there are people eating that allegation up, why would they think she'd be a complaint anything else if in office....that gives credence to being an independent thinker/doer.

As for the clothes allegation, she has gone on the record as saying she buys at a consignment shopt, or a 2nd hand shop up in Alaska........if this weren't so, that would be plastered all over, in headlines and on talking media, that it was checked out and she lied!

Cripes, there's even bitching that she answered a hotel door for the apparent handlers as she got out of the shower and had a towel wrapped around her!!! Guess they preferred a bare-assed nekkid womana to answer the door. AND if she hadn't answered the door, the rumor mill would be that she was too busy trying to 'beautify' herself, or was so petulant about why she only had this or that to wear.

It is all such paris hilton type bullshit. Even a number on this board have bought the juice on this one.

rowdee  posted on  2008-11-09   13:05:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#132. To: Cynicom, All (#96)

Palin is 44 years old and struck a nerve that brought out the white trash, nobody Americans, that no one likes. Remember there are MILLIONS of Americans that belong to no party, no ideology, with allegiance to no one in this rotten system.

And as I recall, she spoke favorably of Ron Paul........and we know he shook some cages with the internet fund raising!

rowdee  posted on  2008-11-09   13:07:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#133. To: rowdee (#131)

Beyond the sour grapes of jealous wimmen and queers,

I would venture to say that the word was put out to destroy Palin from both sides of the aisle.

Ferraro was destroyed, lost two elections and faded away. Good ole boys hate women.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-11-09   13:12:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#134. To: rowdee (#132)

And as I recall, she spoke favorably of Ron Paul

I believe that was in interview done after she was selected and during the time the mcCain campaign asked RP for his support.

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2008-11-09   13:13:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#135. To: rowdee, Jethro Tull (#131)

Beyond the sour grapes of jealous wimmen and queers, this is definitely an attempt to plant something in the background for history and in the minds of people........and as Cyni says, "Who".........others might say, "Why"

You nailed it dee. Sarah Palin is certainly no diva, that's for sure, per the list you gave. But the word "diva" will stick in voters' minds 4 or 8 years hence. It has a nice catchy put-down ring to it does it not. It's the exact opposite of what Sarah Palin is - and for all her warts, being a diva was not one of those warts.

If anything Palin was an ordinary person who was outside the Beltway who did not shmooze at cocktail parties in DC or NYC. She was a person of the people who connected with the people.

MSM and the movers and shakers within the RNC and DNC want Sarah Palin marginalized. That's the "who", imo. The "why" is something for us to ponder.

scrapper2  posted on  2008-11-09   13:18:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#136. To: Cynicom (#109)

"80,000,000 plus Americans that belong to NO ONE pose a danger to the system, if God forbid, someone were to walk on stage and say "follow me".

Cant have that, can we?

For her, this agreeing to be on the ticket was the easiest way to get name recognition at the national level. (I daresay most of the kids graduating today or just recently probably can't even find Alaska on a map!)

Something like 54% of our population are women. Geeze, we even saw women from NOW supporting her! Now that had the scare the bejiggers out of some people.

And her positive thoughts and remarks about Ron Paul.

When you stop to think of how the environuts have used the tactics of running to court to try to run the country, it should be a lesson that it is necessary to play the system with the rules that are there available for everyone, but just aren't used.

In elections, there is a distinct advantage in name recognition--just look at how the sheeple went bonkers over a guy they'd never heard of EXCEPT the speech he had given some 3 years prior. Remember how the media just gushed and gushed and gushed, and anytime he was in the news, it was always with the mention of the keynote speech at the previous convention, so if you had sort of forgotten who he was, you were reminded!

Thus far, I don't recall, other than Perot, candidates that didn't have national name recognition.

Along with name recognition, there is the issue of gender, whether anyone wants to admit it or not. Its my opinion that most men don't cotton to having a woman boss.

Anyways, between her being one of us dissatisfied 80 million people, having a free and independent husband (and possibly those same feelings in her heart), and now national recognition, should there be a movement within the next several years to go third party, at least a large part of the problem in gaining a following is already taken care of. She's a feisty little fighter, not afraid to swing a punch, whereas someone like Ron Paul doesn't have that in his nature.

Sarah isn't dumb. She has to know that running 3rd party WITHOUT a bunch of positives going ahead of you that it would be virtually impossible to win national office. I knew it back in 86 when I ran for a state office--my heart was independent, but there was no way that would happen because there was no groundwork laid many years beforehand.

rowdee  posted on  2008-11-09   13:30:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#137. To: rowdee, scrapper2, all (#131)

Well, I've got a big old question........how many women in the world do you or any other man, or woman, for that matter, know that would be considered a DIVA by anyones' standards that is as outdoorsy, shoot, gut, and skin out a moose, or cut and clean fish type? How many divas does anyone know that can pick up a gun, let alone shoot it as well as a man? How many women does anyone know that has 5 kids who have all had puke and s**tty diapers that think they're a diva?

The answer is none (some close tho) and that's what really frightens her condescending, nasty opponents. I've discussed her politics, which aren't mine, but if she was a D, her story - from mom, to mayor to governor - would qualify her for sainthood. The character assassination is about the small town qualities she represents and, more importantly, what she might become. Rather than toss people like her over board immediately, I'd ask all those who once thought Bush was a conservative to pause before doing so. Just maybe events happen for a reason, and just maybe this disgusting political over kill will ignite a spark in her, Todd, or some other person yet to be identified. If our side decides second chances are verboten, and people never change, I'd suggest our litmus test is impossible to meet.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-11-09   13:30:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#138. To: Cynicom (#133)

Good ole boys hate women.

Yes, and you can also imagine the hatred that went forth when she didn't endorse Stevens because of the cloud he was under......and as the jury decided, she was correct not to.

rowdee  posted on  2008-11-09   13:35:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#139. To: Rotara (#134)

I believe it was before because that was one of the things the media initially whined about. And Buchanan as well.........they tried to stick that on her, when she had in fact worked with the Forbes people, though she apparently had spoken positively as it regards Buchanan as well.

These sorts of things ought to be telling us something----she doesn't seem all that mainstream gop to me. Forbes never got near the top, nor did PJB.

rowdee  posted on  2008-11-09   13:38:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#140. To: scrapper2 (#135)

She was a person of the people who connected with the people.

I believe that is a large part of the why. Only the 'anointed', i.e., GW, should 'connect' with the people. I believe that there are those who feel she is no 'gw' when it comes to being handled.

Some of her governatorial agreements in Alaska weren't exactly embraced by the gop--didn't fit in with their idea of how things should be. This is another little thing we should tuck back in our minds as to the why......at some point, there should be some connecting of the dots.

rowdee  posted on  2008-11-09   13:42:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#141. To: Jethro Tull (#137)

I'm not closing my mind to her; but for the record I didn't vote for that ticket--she wasn't at the top and I wouldn't vote for mccain for dog catcher; like Cyni, I didn't even waste my time this cycle.

One of the big problems with folks that are disenfranchised or disenchanged or disgusted is that if perfection is not seen in their eyes, they'll stab the person and/or their character with a thousand verbal knife wounds.

Bob Barr, who was at odds, via his voting record, with many things most here on the board are against, was never hammered with this viciousness being shown Palin.

And what about Howard Phillips or Chuck Baldwin.......geeze, even PJB wasn't excoriated like this.

I really do believe in keeping alert to the Why and Who of this.

rowdee  posted on  2008-11-09   15:31:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#142. To: James Deffenbach (#81)

And yet you voted for Obama

As usual, you opened your mouth and inserted foot before engaging what little brain you apparently have. Then again, I know you don't read posts or you would know who I voted for.

bush_is_a_moonie  posted on  2008-11-09   23:23:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#143. To: bush_is_a_moonie (#142)

If you didn't vote for the sob why are you always singing his praises like someone with a sub moron IQ?

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2008-11-09   23:35:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#144. To: christine (#107)

this is more of the keep the two party fraud alive. palin's a neocon. there's nothing she has ever said to indicate otherwise.

of course she is, and i find it hard to believe that anyone here for one moment would believe otherwise,.. I was just tryin to be diplomatic about it. ;-)

MY REPLY TO ZEITGEIST: 1John Chapter 2: "21 I write to you not because you do not know the truth but because you do, and because every lie is alien to the truth. 22 Who is the liar? Whoever denies that Jesus is the Christ. Whoever denies the Father and the Son, this is the antichrist."
"I don't know where Bin Laden is. I truly am not that concerned about him"
George W, Bush, 3/13/02 http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2002/03/20020313-8.html

Artisan  posted on  2008-11-10   7:49:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#145. To: James Deffenbach (#143)

singing his praises like someone with a sub moron IQ?

You mean why have I not bought into all the propaganda and been willing to be a victim of the politicians use of the "divide and conquer" tactics? If he does half the crap the neocon propaganda says he will do then I will turn against him and his administration just like I did the previous 3 administrations. While you and those like you wander off and buy into the propaganda about what "may" happen in the future intelligent people are concentrating and speaking out against what the bush administration and commie neocons are doing now.

Divide and conquer: Bush’s new strategy to win in Iraq and at home

themoderatevoice.com/gene...-win-in-iraq-and-at-home/

Divide and Conquer: The Anglo-American Imperial Project

www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=9451

Crisis in the U.S.: 'Plan B'?

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www.richardccook.com./challenger.php

INSIDE WASHINGTON: Auditors go easy on contractors

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bush_is_a_moonie  posted on  2008-11-10   9:13:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#146. To: bush_is_a_moonie (#145)

James asked you if you voted for Obama. Did you?

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-11-10   9:18:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#147. To: bush_is_a_moonie (#145)

You mean why have I not bought into all the propaganda and been willing to be a victim of the politicians use of the "divide and conquer" tactics?

No, you are twisting my words. Something I guess I should expect from an Obamaphile. What I asked was why you are always singing his praises like someone with a sub moron IQ if you didn't vote for him? If you don't know that he is owned, lock, stock and barrel by the same establishment that owns Bush and his daddy you need to do a lot more reading. Either that or just admit you don't care that he is just another establishment clown. And if that is the case you should love Bush too.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2008-11-10   9:26:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#148. To: Jethro Tull (#146)

James asked you if you voted for Obama. Did you?

It would be hard to believe he didn't the way he is always singing his praises and posting whatever article he can find that speaks well of the Obamasiah.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2008-11-10   9:27:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#149. To: James Deffenbach, jethro tull (#148)

It would be hard to believe he didn't the way he is always singing his praises and posting whatever article he can find that speaks well of the Obamasiah.

James...

I recall after Johnson got us in a hell of a war that no admitted ever voting for him. They all sang his praises until the body bags came home on a DAILY basis.

Some people follow any Pied Piper, moonie and his ilk follow their Piper because he is black. The tune he is playing is nothing but Jewish folk Music.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-11-10   9:32:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#150. To: Cynicom (#149)

Some people follow any Pied Piper, moonie and his ilk follow their Piper because he is black.

Yep. And I would bet that the "tunes" he and that thing he calls a wife like the best are probably rap songs about how terrible whitey is and how they would like to kill all white people, at least the ones who haven't bought into the act and the scam.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2008-11-10   9:42:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#151. To: James Deffenbach (#148)

I don't care what you believe or think. I don't have to justify anything to you or anybody else. I know who I voted for and why. Unlike you, I don't let public opinion (liberal vs. conservative) influence my decisions. You want to be a conservative or a liberal then that's your business. I am neither.. I am an American.

bush_is_a_moonie  posted on  2008-11-10   9:46:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#152. To: James Deffenbach (#148)

I bet he did.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-11-10   9:51:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#153. To: bush_is_a_moonie (#151)

You want to be a conservative or a liberal then that's your business. I am neither.. I am an American.

Prove it

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-11-10   9:52:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#154. To: Jethro Tull (#153)

Prove it

Impossible...

One cannot march in lockstep with this corrupt political system and be an American.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-11-10   9:57:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#155. To: Cynicom (#154)

That's just where I was going.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-11-10   10:00:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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