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Title: Palin calls attacks 'cruel' and 'cowardly'
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URL Source: http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/11/07/mccain.palin/index.html
Published: Nov 7, 2008
Author: CNN
Post Date: 2008-11-07 20:44:57 by christine
Keywords: None
Views: 4031
Comments: 155

Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin called former aides of Sen. John McCain "jerks" for circulating unflattering stories about her since the Republican ticket lost its bid for the White House Tuesday.

Sources close to John McCain say Sarah Palin was denied a chance to speak at McCain's concession address.

The stories, which have been attributed to unnamed sources within the McCain campaign, include claims that Palin did not know Africa was a continent instead of a country, or which countries are part of the North American Free Trade Agreement, despite touting her familiarity with neighboring Canada.

Speaking with CNN's Gary Tuchman after returning to Alaska, Palin speculated those stories may have originated with campaign staffers who helped her prepare for her debate with Democratic Vice President-elect Joe Biden.

"Those were taken out of context and that's cruel," Palin said. "It's mean-spirited. It's immature. It's unprofessional and those guys are jerks if they came away with it, taking things out of context, and then tried to spread something on national news."

One source involved in preparing Palin for interviews and the vice-presidential debate told CNN "she had not paid attention to a single policy debate that's gone on in this country for 10 years."

Palin told Tuchman she remembers having conversations about NAFTA and Africa during her preparations, but that the stories about her "are not true." She said it was "cowardly" for staffers to make claims about her anonymously.

"It's not fair and it's not right." Watch CNN's Gary Tuchman's interview with Palin »

Two McCain sources said they were furious about Palin's supposed call Saturday with French President Nicolas Sarkozy, which turned out to be a prank by two radio DJs.

A source close to Palin told CNN that she had prepared to deliver a concession speech Tuesday night, and expected to address the crowd at the Arizona Biltmore in Phoenix, Arizona.

Several sources told CNN that McCain senior adviser Steve Schmidt told Palin no, in part because of built-up anger among some McCain aides who say Palin had become more interested in her own future than in McCain's election. Palin denies that claim. Watch what's being said about Palin »

There have also been reports of a somewhat distant relationship between McCain and his running mate.

"This is so unfortunate and, quite honestly, sickening," Palin aide Meghan Stapleton said Thursday in a written statement.

"The accusations we are hearing and reading are not true, and since we deny all these anonymous allegations, there is nothing specific to which we will respond. Watch more about the infighting »

"We have the highest regards for Sen. John McCain. Gov. Palin was honored to be chosen as McCain's running mate. And as governor of Alaska, Gov. Palin looks forward to working with President-elect Obama on securing energy independence for America."

On Election Day, Palin denied there was tension. Once back in Alaska, she said she would not respond to individual accusations. Watch Palin discuss the controversy »

"I won't comment on anyone's gossip or allegations that are based on anonymous sources," she said. "That's kind of a small, evidently bitter type of person, who would anonymously charge something foolish like that -- that I perhaps didn't know an answer to a question. So until I know who was talking about it, I won't have a comment on false allegations."

In response to the allegations that she was ill-prepared for interviews and debate, Randy Scheunemann, an aide assigned to Palin, called her "brilliant" and said she has a "photographic memory."

Despite the acrimony, many McCain aides say they are sad the campaign team dissolved so quickly.


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#56. To: bush_is_a_moonie (#55)

All a person needs to do in America today is say the word terrorist and there are hundreds of thousands who go wacko at just the mention of it.

Obama is in bed w/Ayres who is a terrorist. Emanuel is the son or a terrorist. I think your anger is misplaced.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-11-08   15:37:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#57. To: bush_is_a_moonie (#51)

You might as well brace yourself, moonie..........America is not going to get better. There is no way this nation is going to go back to better days--said days being before LBJ, at the minimum.

Democrats are progressives--always moving towards their goal--their goal being total domination of your life and the national scene--they're socialists at heart, or communist.

They are more than willing to take a step, halt, take a step, half, go back l step, halt, go foward 2 steps, halt, go back l, step foward 2, halt, halt, go forward l, back l, halt, forward 2.

I'll give you an example. Teddy the Swimmer's goal is to put most of the budget into education. Bush was elected. Against conservatives who like Reagan wanted to get rid of the Dept of Education, he plays the stupid little game of trying to get on the good side, off to a good start, make fwiends, blah blah blah, and comes up with this NCLB crap, and put up some funding--a substantial increase in education spending.

The left just pitched a fit because there was 'inadeuqate' funding. Next go round, there's more $$$$$$$$$ put in the kitty; they still yowl and howl and piss and moan and groan; so whap--more money, more money, more money. But notice, they are never satisfied with the amount, though the total spending has tripled by now? In the cloakroom, they're laughing their assses off at pulling another coup off. And they don't even have to take the blame.......the damn gop and its rinos are busting their butts to give the president whatever he wants!!!

And it worked-- viola!--even for Clinton, when he had a gop congress!!! And the stupid gop, namely Pete Domenici stands in the halls of congress and brags that they, the gop, have given more education funding than even clinton ASKED for!!!

You need to learn how this goes......cause its working the same way with these wars and other ways to take the future from your kids and grandkids---and just think- -most of us have kids and grandkids, too, that we care just as deeply for as you do yours!! What a thought........

rowdee  posted on  2008-11-08   15:44:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#58. To: All (#43)

RELATED:

Poll: 64 Percent Of Republicans Want Palin To Run In 2012

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/11/07/poll-64-percent-of-republ_n_142284.html

~Your failure to be informed, does not make me a wacko.~

Jhoffa_  posted on  2008-11-08   15:56:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#59. To: bush_is_a_moonie (#55) (Edited)

All a person needs to do in America today is say the word terrorist and there are hundreds of thousands who go wacko at just the mention of it

Buy yourself a clue---Wallace, JFK, and Reagan weren't talking about terrorists......for cryin out loud, the dimwit that took the pop at Reagan was upset cause Jodie Foster, a person on the silver screen and not even in his own frickin life, wasn't his lover!

Any thing and nothing can set dimwits and misfits off.

What about the birdbrain drug fried mansonite that tried to off Jerry Ford?

You make no sense........

rowdee  posted on  2008-11-08   16:50:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#60. To: rowdee (#57)

Today in America the left is not the threat... the neocon fake conservatives are the threat. Remember, neocons are not conservatives. They are former ultra left wingers of the Democrat party in the 50s who insisted that the U.S. confront the USSR even if it meant a nuclear war. Research the background of neocons and you will see that some are former members of the American Communist Party, the Socialist Workers Party and other anti-Stalin communist organizations. The left in the entire 200+ years of existence of the U.S. have not come close to doing the damage to America and Americans that the neocons have in less than 30 years.

This anti-left propaganda started in the 80s and is part of the plan of the neocons to create a division between conservatives and liberals that they could take advantage of to promote their imperialistic world control agenda. All a person needs to do is look at what has happened since the 60s. Today's neocons were very much in favor of the Vietnam war, the attacks on Greneda, Panama, Iraq and other countries. Remember, the PNAC said that the U.S. needs to constantly be involved in two or more wars in multiple areas of the world to show its strength and that any country who even remotely appears to be a threat to the U.S., economically or militarily needs to be crushed and then controlled by the U.S. This is communism.

bush_is_a_moonie  posted on  2008-11-08   16:51:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#61. To: bush_is_a_moonie (#55)

America has become another potential 1930s Germany and it is self-destructing at a rapid pace because of it.

Right down to obamessiahs new Sturmabteilung and Hitler Youth Service Corps he is setting up. In fact, in his acceptance speech, the propaganda techniques could clearly be seen, i.e. admiring himself and being on stage alone. It's all about him. He is an egomanical, smooth talking, and just plain scary. Hitler's reincarnation from the pages of history.

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IndieTX  posted on  2008-11-08   16:56:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#62. To: bush_is_a_moonie (#60)

This anti-left propaganda started in the 80s and is part of the plan of the neocons to create a division between conservatives and liberals that they could take advantage of to promote their imperialistic world control agenda.

Oh puleeze.......... Division between conservatives and liberals? the left and the right have battled forever.

LOLOL.

rowdee  posted on  2008-11-08   16:56:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#63. To: bush_is_a_moonie (#60)

Today in America the left is not the threat... the neocon fake conservatives are the threat. Remember, neocons are not conservatives.

Neocons are Trotskyites who come to us from the left.

Try again

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-11-08   16:57:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#64. To: rowdee (#62)

The left and right have not battled for ever. They had differences but they didn't play the hate game they have play..... oh never mind. The current vicious hatred of the liberals was started in the 80s by the neocons. I'm not going to waste any more time disucssing this. I doubt most of you even remember what it was like in the 50s and 60s.

bush_is_a_moonie  posted on  2008-11-08   19:23:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#65. To: IndieTX (#61)

When you can provide one instance of anything obama or anybody else for that matter that has done as much damage as the bush administration then I'll listen. Until then don't waste my time with conspiracy theories.

bush_is_a_moonie  posted on  2008-11-08   19:25:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#66. To: Jethro Tull, Robin (#46)

except in the case of ugly women who are jealous)

I heard Robin is a dog face. Surely she fits?

Old Friend  posted on  2008-11-08   19:26:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#67. To: bush_is_a_moonie (#64)

NEOCONSERVATIVES ARE FROM THE POLITICAL LEFT, GOT IT?

COLUMN: What the hell is a neocon?


University Wire

09-03-2003

(Michigan Daily) (U-WIRE) ANN ARBOR, Mich. -- Attila the Hun. Genghis Khan. Paul Wolfowitz.

Young freshmen, you as rising scholars are entering a stage in life when you begin to understand how the world works. But rather than let you wallow in four years of hard studying and personal misery to find the answer, I'll just tell you what causes problems like a dying economy, countries rotting in their own piss and bad things that happen to good people. It's all because of the neoconservatives.

Some people shy away from the neocon conspiracy theory because it is reminiscent of ancient anti-Semitic "Hymie rules the world" myths. For example, many of my fellow students (myself included) were offended when Hussein Ibish of the American-Arab Anti-Discrimination Committee called neocons "idealistic, crazy and chauvinistic Jewish-Americans," at a speaking engagement at the Michigan League last year.

But in that accusation lies a sad fact. They are hard-line ideologues whose personalities and foreign policy can be characterized as chauvinistic, and mazel tov, they're all Jewish. A quick note to the anti-Semites: This doesn't vindicate Jewish conspiracy theories, as most American Jews have remained Democrats.

A little background. Most neocons were all the same in their past lives as Trotskyites. This isn't surprising, as Trotskyism is similar to neoconservativism in that they are both anti-democratic and demand all-out, uncompromising war against their enemy (capitalists for the Trots, everyone who is not America or Israel for the neocons) and seeks to be the overarching, single ruling hegemony.

Furthermore, it's not uncommon for people to keep to the extremes. For example, the now-racist David Horowitz was thought to be na?ve by his friends for his enthusiastic support for the Black Panthers in his Marxist youth.

Most of them made the switch in the '60s, like Irving Kristol, when they found themselves supporting Israel when the left was rallying for the Palestinians. They also came from urbane, New York intellectual society, and were disgusted at what they perceived to be the filth that was sex, drugs and rock and roll that stood at the center of left-wing social life.

As Kristol in his trademark, elegantly pompous tone, said, "A neoconservative is a liberal who's been mugged by reality."

In short, nationalism got the best of them. Zionism started out as a left-wing movement, an anti-racist agenda that stood side by side with the civil rights movement. But along came a distrust among the Zionists. They felt no compromise could be made with the enemy. They shunned the leftist aspects of Zionism and traded "peace now" for "piece now" and salivated at the thought of armed conflict. Similar developments happened when violent, bigoted "white devil" attitudes emerged from Black Nationalism.

But what makes right-wing Zionists a problem for this country? A few of them, like Deputy Defense Secretary Paul Wolfowitz and Defense Policy Board member Richard Perle, hold high positions where they can dictate policy. Neocons care not about the domestic problems that plague our nation - abysmal public education and unemployment to name a few - but about funding Israel and sticking with the hawkish Likud Party and flexing military muscle against anyone that steps out of line with America.

Don't take my paranoid, left-wing word for it. Perle himself said, according to The Christian Science Monitor, "The President of the United States, on issue after issue, has reflected the thinking of neoconservatives." And just look at the numbers. There's never enough money for schools but there is always billions of dollars available for Israeli aid and whatever war Bush and the neocons want to fight. This nation doesn't suffer from a lack of money, it suffers from an unbalanced allocation of available funds. In fact, some estimate that the Bush administration is actually spending more money on the neocon agenda than Johnson did on his Great Society domestic policies.

This isn't to say that United States should stay away from brokering peace between Israel and the Palestinians. On the contrary, the United States should spend a reasonable amount of energy on ending war and securing ourselves from terrorist threats. But aiding the Israeli extremist position is unhelpful and damaging for the region, and turns a blind eye to more important domestic ills.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-11-08   19:35:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#68. To: Old Friend (#66)

That's stupid and childish, but you knew that already. Let it go, man, or...you did, didn't you? You donated like $100 to her site right before getting banned. Tell me it's not true.

And they write innumerable books; being too vain and distracted for silence: seeking every one after his own elevation, and dodging his emptiness. - T. S. Eliot

Dakmar  posted on  2008-11-08   19:39:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#69. To: Old Friend (#66)

Not nice..

:(

~Your failure to be informed, does not make me a wacko.~

Jhoffa_  posted on  2008-11-08   19:41:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#70. To: Jethro Tull (#67)

Springtime for Trotsky
by Daniel McCarthy
November 6, 2001
lewrockwell.com

And they write innumerable books; being too vain and distracted for silence: seeking every one after his own elevation, and dodging his emptiness. - T. S. Eliot

Dakmar  posted on  2008-11-08   19:41:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#71. To: Dakmar (#70)

The Trotskyist pedigree of neoconservatism is no secret; the original neocon, Irving Kristol, acknowledges it with relish: "I regard myself to have been a young Trostkyite and I have not a single bitter memory." Nor is there any doubt about the influence – one might almost say hegemony – of "former Communists" on the post-war conservative movement. Just read the words of one neocon, Seymour Martin Lipset:

From the anti-Stalinists who became conservatives – including James Burnham, Whittaker Chambers, and Irving Kristol – the Right gained a political education and, in some cases, an injection of passion. The ex-radicals brought with them the knowledge that ideological movements must have journals and magazines to articulate their perspectives. In 1955, for example, William F. Buckley, Jr., launched National Review at the urging of Willi Schlamm, a former German Communist. In its early years, National Review was largely written and edited by the Buckley family and a handful of former Communists, Trotskyists, and socialists, such as Burnham and Chambers. It played a major role in creating the Goldwaterite and Reaganite New Right and in stimulating an anti-Soviet foreign policy.

Worthy of note is that while ex-Stalinists tended to denounce their Communist roots vehemently, neoconservatives like Kristol and Schwartz remain at least wistfully fond of Trotsky. It's also worth noting that the neoconservative preoccupation with exporting social democracy abroad through war and mercantilism reflects the original split between Trotsky and Stalin. Trotsky argued that there could not be "socialism in one country" but rather that the revolution had to be truly international. And so the neoconservatives push for "human rights" and social democratic governments to be imposed on Serbia, for example, by force of arms.

Bingo, Dak.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-11-08   20:03:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#72. To: bush_is_a_moonie (#64)

Look who is throwing the 'hate' card around.........as bad as them bastards are in DC, they don't spout crap as hatefully as you do. They have differences, major differences, and fight tooth and nail for their cause. They don't run around espousing shooting everyone that doesn't agree with them as you do.

You'd best be forgoing further discussion at this point about the matter.

rowdee  posted on  2008-11-08   20:41:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#73. To: bush_is_a_moonie, all (#65) (Edited)

don't waste my time with conspiracy theories.

My "conspiracy theories" are taken from obamesiah's own words you ignorant DUMB ASS.

You're #12 on the bozo list for being ignorant without a license.

Dumb fuck hypocrite sheople is what you are.

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IndieTX  posted on  2008-11-08   22:46:07 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#74. To: Dakmar, Jhoffa_ (#3) (Edited)

William Kristol: Palin's advice to McCain: Take the gloves off in debate

Palin was a neocon prop, promoted by Bill Kristol and coached by Joe Lieberman. What could be more perfect than a folksy-sounding, telegenic airhead to sell the PNAC foreign policy agenda? When someone like Joe Lieberman or Randy Schuenemann stumps for Israel or threatens to annihilate an Arab country, it's kind of obvious what it's all about. When a Pentacostal from Alaska talks about nuking Iran in the name of God, well, the rubes think that it's as all-American as apple pie.

Rupert_Pupkin  posted on  2008-11-08   23:40:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#75. To: Rupert_Pupkin (#74)

Good point.

We really don't know what caused McCain to settle on her. She certainly was compatible on the Israel issue.

~ Your failure to be informed, does not make me a wacko.

Jhoffa_  posted on  2008-11-08   23:59:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#76. To: bush_is_a_moonie (#23)

Hey little boy.. .I'll tell you how sick I am of scumbags supporting those who are destroying our country. I have had it with this crap. If you little sissys don't have the balls to stand up for this country and would rather be poltically correct then you can kiss my ass.

Listen to you, Obamapenisbreath !!!

You're a bad joke with a worse punch line.

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2008-11-09   0:21:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#77. To: Cynicom, All (#24)

Both sections of the system see Palin as a future threat. Why???

Deep Down (because the f**king liars will never admit it) all of *US* (the non- cabalites) are a present or future threat.

Palin's no threat, as evidenced by her non-America first 'tude exhibited WHILE hitched to the reptile aka Juan McCucaracha.

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2008-11-09   0:24:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#78. To: bush_is_a_moonie, ferret mike (#25)

Phoenix AZ.... wanna give it a shot and find out boy? You and those like you are an embarassment to America and true Americans. You can't deal with the truth then tough shit.

It would be fun, but unfortunately, you rate down in the bathhouse with ferret corn flake liar commie girl.

As in, you just don't rate little timer. ;-)

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2008-11-09   0:25:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#79. To: Cynicom (#27)

Your language tells us your true character, your limited intelligence, and your sad lack of mature intellectual thinking.

Just look at your posts. A sad, despicable, woman hating person.

I enjoy cursing and spitting on Communists.

It's best in person, though.

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2008-11-09   0:26:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#80. To: Jethro Tull, biam (#29)

Hey tough guy, sit down and STFU. Big s**t you went to Nam. It's ancient history. Now what about the one National political party you so detest? Seems to me you hate only one wing. All your hate is directed at Palin, who is off the stage and in Alaska. She won't be affecting your life anytime soon, but the bastard you adore and his Zionist VP and cabinet sure as hell will. Stick that in the empty part of your head.

They suck cabal johnson. They REALLY loved FDR !! But Obamalamadingdonger captivates them in tingling ways they that just can't fully articulate.

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2008-11-09   0:27:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#81. To: bush_is_a_moonie (#51)

I'm tired of the gutting of our rights and liberties

And yet you voted for Obama. Seek help.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2008-11-09   0:30:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#82. To: James Deffenbach (#81) (Edited)

I'm tired of the gutting of our rights and liberties And yet you voted for Obama. Seek help.

I hate to say this, because I love retards. Know lots of them, work for their benefit a lot.

But the Ophiles seem to be at least mildly stunted in their mental capacity, and or not fully recovered from severe emotional or physical (head) trauma.

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2008-11-09   0:31:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#83. To: bush_is_a_moonie (#33)

Yes I am venting but it is because I can't stand you anti-American cowards.

And you supported (voted for but you will never admit it I'm sure) the *WORST* World Communist Fascist Cabal toadie ever presented as the selection in AmeriKa.

Well done, retard.

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2008-11-09   0:34:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#84. To: Jethro Tull (#34)

God bless his independence. I'd join a party like that in a heartbeat. Her too. She's now in my good guy column. With the relentless attacks on her by the loony left, she's worth a second look. Go Sarah. I LOVE women who can shoot a gun.

She has nothing to lose now by telling the WHOLE truth about Juan mcStain and his lousy band of RINO-faggots.

She has too many deal breakers for me, but it would be nice to fillet these bastards from an insider's view.

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2008-11-09   0:36:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#85. To: Rotara (#82)

But the Ophiles seem to be at least mildly stunted in their mental capacity, and or not fully recovered from severe emotional or physical (head) trauma.

Some of them--a fairly large number I'm sure--are young, idealistic, naive and gullible, easily swayed by peer pressure. But people who are over 25 or 30 years old and still vote for someone who refuses to produce the proof that he is even a citizen of this country are past help.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2008-11-09   0:37:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#86. To: bush_is_a_moonie (#37)

I hope American's come to their senses and stop running and hiding. You wouldnt' know what war is like would you coward. What has happened to this country - cowards like you is what happened to it.

Yeah, a vote for a Big Government Statist Black Panther Kosher Marxist Globalist stepandfetchit is a great start. -end sarcasm-

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2008-11-09   0:38:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#87. To: James Deffenbach (#85)

Some of them--a fairly large number I'm sure--are young, idealistic, naive and gullible, easily swayed by peer pressure. But people who are over 25 or 30 years old and still vote for someone who refuses to produce the proof that he is even a citizen of this country are past help.

I know. Some people really SHOULD NOT use marijuana !

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2008-11-09   0:39:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#88. To: Lady X, biam is a retard (#40)

Sweetpea, you need to calm down.

The election is over. It's done, finished, that's it.

What is the point?

You have a bigger enemy than Palin and he's sitting in the White House..

biam is a retard knows.

He-she-it voted for the Obamalamadingdonger !

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2008-11-09   0:40:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#89. To: Artisan (#41)

it's wishful thinking to believe she is not a neocon

She's a NEOCON. If she wasn't before, she is now.

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2008-11-09   0:45:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#90. To: Jhoffa_ (#42)

You are painting with a pretty broad brush up there, but I'll give you this. You're half right.

I'd fight for the people in this country.. Eve die for them.

I refuse to fight for a pipeline or a corporation, however. I think allot of people feel the same way.. In fact, I haven't seen the US military defend us against anything in the entire time I've been alive..

While this says nothing about those who served and their motivations, it is a terrible indictment of their leadership.

I can't fight for Obamalamadingdongers.

I would find it hard to fight for most partisan Repubicans and everyone that wasn't ignorant/scared/stupid but voted FOR mcCain.

So that really only leaves a rather slim populace that I'd fight for.

And fight I will. ;-)

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2008-11-09   0:47:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#91. To: Jhoffa_ (#43)

Why finger Palin for being what she is?

They're afraid she'll come back prepared and polished in 2012?

Anything that remotely appears to be "Conservative" is like garlic to the leadership of the GOP and that includes most State leadership. If not all.

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2008-11-09   0:48:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#92. To: Jethro Tull (#46)

W/O the yoke of McCain and the R-party, for that matter, she might be capable of being a national 3rd party leader.

Anybody that stays in the Republicrat-Democan dialectic at this point will never get it.

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2008-11-09   0:50:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#93. To: Jhoffa_ (#75)

We really don't know what caused McCain to settle on her. She certainly was compatible on the Israel issue.

I've got a pretty good idea. She has a vagina, she was folksy, she was a social conservative, and most importantly she would say whatever her handlers told her to say. She was a news anchor by training, thats all she did, read her script.

She would have been the nominee in 2012 if she wasn't so stupid. Some might object to calling her stupid, but either she is stupid, or she is massively ignorant and completely intellectually lazy.

She is George Bush in a skirt.

Rhino369  posted on  2008-11-09   1:45:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#94. To: Rotara (#89)

I just got this from the neocon site ' humaneventsonline.com ' (I subscribe to various enemies of freedom email lists to see what they're up to) With them shilling for her what other proof does anyone need? ;-/

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"I don't know where Bin Laden is. I truly am not that concerned about him"
George W, Bush, 3/13/02 http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2002/03/20020313-8.html

Artisan  posted on  2008-11-09   2:48:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#95. To: All (#93)

I never gave Palin a second thought after she signed on with with McCain, but can anyone explain to me the vitriol she is receiving from the Ds and Neos in defeat? Quick, can you remember Bob Dole's VP pick? Lots here do, because we live and breathe this stuff, but Jack Kemp is lost to history since that similar disaster of a campaign. The ongoing personal assault on her has a political message, and all the usual suspects are driving it. She'd be insane to consider running again, and with her currently stated policies, I'd never support her, but it's the continuous, vicious attack on her that should be a red flag to us. It's a distraction to the economic meltdown, Obama's odious appointments and god knows what else.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-11-09   5:36:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#96. To: Jethro Tull, christine, All (#95) (Edited)

Answer...

McKook was the person running for President, not Palin. KooK is 74 years old, finished, gone,history, into the dustbin, a political nobody.

Palin is 44 years old and struck a nerve that brought out the white trash, nobody Americans, that no one likes. Remember there are MILLIONS of Americans that belong to no party, no ideology, with allegiance to no one in this rotten system.

The system has decided that her gender alone is basis for degrading her into oblivion. Despicable people here have called her a whore, found no fault with her being called worse names, all of which is in fact the system busy at work in this rotten business.

Palin cannot be allowed to exist as she appeals to the unwashed millions that are not part of the system.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-11-09   6:45:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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