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Title: Palin calls attacks 'cruel' and 'cowardly'
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URL Source: http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/11/07/mccain.palin/index.html
Published: Nov 7, 2008
Author: CNN
Post Date: 2008-11-07 20:44:57 by christine
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Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin called former aides of Sen. John McCain "jerks" for circulating unflattering stories about her since the Republican ticket lost its bid for the White House Tuesday. Sources close to John McCain say Sarah Palin was denied a chance to speak at McCain's concession address. The stories, which have been attributed to unnamed sources within the McCain campaign, include claims that Palin did not know Africa was a continent instead of a country, or which countries are part of the North American Free Trade Agreement, despite touting her familiarity with neighboring Canada. Speaking with CNN's Gary Tuchman after returning to Alaska, Palin speculated those stories may have originated with campaign staffers who helped her prepare for her debate with Democratic Vice President-elect Joe Biden. "Those were taken out of context and that's cruel," Palin said. "It's mean-spirited. It's immature. It's unprofessional and those guys are jerks if they came away with it, taking things out of context, and then tried to spread something on national news." One source involved in preparing Palin for interviews and the vice-presidential debate told CNN "she had not paid attention to a single policy debate that's gone on in this country for 10 years." Palin told Tuchman she remembers having conversations about NAFTA and Africa during her preparations, but that the stories about her "are not true." She said it was "cowardly" for staffers to make claims about her anonymously. "It's not fair and it's not right." Watch CNN's Gary Tuchman's interview with Palin » Two McCain sources said they were furious about Palin's supposed call Saturday with French President Nicolas Sarkozy, which turned out to be a prank by two radio DJs. A source close to Palin told CNN that she had prepared to deliver a concession speech Tuesday night, and expected to address the crowd at the Arizona Biltmore in Phoenix, Arizona. Several sources told CNN that McCain senior adviser Steve Schmidt told Palin no, in part because of built-up anger among some McCain aides who say Palin had become more interested in her own future than in McCain's election. Palin denies that claim. Watch what's being said about Palin » There have also been reports of a somewhat distant relationship between McCain and his running mate. "This is so unfortunate and, quite honestly, sickening," Palin aide Meghan Stapleton said Thursday in a written statement. "The accusations we are hearing and reading are not true, and since we deny all these anonymous allegations, there is nothing specific to which we will respond. Watch more about the infighting » "We have the highest regards for Sen. John McCain. Gov. Palin was honored to be chosen as McCain's running mate. And as governor of Alaska, Gov. Palin looks forward to working with President-elect Obama on securing energy independence for America." On Election Day, Palin denied there was tension. Once back in Alaska, she said she would not respond to individual accusations. Watch Palin discuss the controversy » "I won't comment on anyone's gossip or allegations that are based on anonymous sources," she said. "That's kind of a small, evidently bitter type of person, who would anonymously charge something foolish like that -- that I perhaps didn't know an answer to a question. So until I know who was talking about it, I won't have a comment on false allegations." In response to the allegations that she was ill-prepared for interviews and debate, Randy Scheunemann, an aide assigned to Palin, called her "brilliant" and said she has a "photographic memory." Despite the acrimony, many McCain aides say they are sad the campaign team dissolved so quickly.
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#1. To: christine (#0)
She needs to fight back, wrap a bandage around her head and hire cymbal and flute backing band, march on anyone who thinks she's a joke.
And they write innumerable books; being too vain and distracted for silence: seeking every one after his own elevation, and dodging his emptiness. - T. S. Eliot
Nobody forced her to hitch her wagon to the John McStain campaign. I now wonder if her stand on illegal immigration was even her thought or if it was what she was ordered to say by McStain campaign hacks.
Paris Hilton: that's hot!
And they write innumerable books; being too vain and distracted for silence: seeking every one after his own elevation, and dodging his emptiness. - T. S. Eliot
Typical attention whore. WHen everyone thought she was so hawt, you just know she loved it. But when things dont go her way, she cries like a baby looking for sympathy. Can't take the heat, stay in the kitchen.
She had already been zinged for a reporter asking her regarding a quote about her, when the sonofabitch took what was said completely out of context and was NOT about her but reporter did his best to make it to be! So I don't blame her for knocking these 'anonymous' sources..........dirty rotten bastards can't stand up and be a man or a woman and make such allegations! And that goes for either side of the aisle. And works real well for sleaze factors like the national inquirier or star or whatever other yellow rags are out there. Just like the media whores tried to imply that SHE was out shopping at Saks 5th Avenue, and such, and spent $150,000.......stoopid rotten bastards were too friggin lazy OR WERE DELIBERATELY TRYING TO SLAM HER to find out or state who actually purchased the clothing, or that several sizes were purchased, or that the purchasing was done by the rnc! Funny how we all hate the media, but yet get a real bug up our arses and eat up and spout out crap that just might or might seem to back up how we feel about something or someone.
Sarah. These bozos did not allow you to speak because you would not have licked the boots of your new nazi leader as McCain did in his disgusting speech.. You were the only REAL person..a "regular guy".. on the two major tickets. Some of us knew it...which is why I pulled the plunger for you and against obamessiah. You represented a chance as opposed to the certain destruction that obamessiah will be.
Law Enforcement Against Prohibition "Corporation: An entity created for the legal protection of its human parasites, whose sole purpose is profit and self-perpetuation." © IndieTx Some physically unattractive people, one balding and obese Candy Crowley from CNN in particular, took delight in tearing her down. I suspect simply jealousy is behind much of the liberal hate.
That is true. I noticed the same thing, in myself and in others. THat would make an interesting debate topic. I dont know enough about the allegations to say one way or another if they were true or not. I didn't have a dog in this fight so I didnt check things out like I would have if I cared.
Palin is a hateful, sick, racist, power hungry whore! Nothing more. The Republican party should be embarassed but since it was taken over by the Trostky communists in the 80s during the Reagan years it is no surprise they would select her and the Manchurian Candidate to be their representatives. I never thought I would say this but the Republican Party has made the Democrats look like the saviors of America. The Republican Party has become all that is wrong in America. These pigs have made me wish I had voted for Obama instead of Ron Paul just to spite them. Sarah Palin blamed by the US Secret Service over death threats against Barack Obama Sarah Palin's attacks on Barack Obama's patriotism provoked a spike in death threats against the future president, Secret Service agents revealed during the final weeks of the campaign. Palin's tone may have unintentionally encouraged white supremacists Photo: Reuters The Republican vice presidential candidate attracted criticism for accusing Mr Obama of "palling around with terrorists", citing his association with the sixties radical William Ayers. The attacks provoked a near lynch mob atmosphere at her rallies, with supporters yelling "terrorist" and "kill him" until the McCain campaign ordered her to tone down the rhetoric. But it has now emerged that her demagogic tone may have unintentionally encouraged white supremacists to go even further. The Secret Service warned the Obama family in mid October that they had seen a dramatic increase in the number of threats against the Democratic candidate, coinciding with Mrs Palin's attacks. Michelle Obama, the future First Lady, was so upset that she turned to her friend and campaign adviser Valerie Jarrett and said: "Why would they try to make people hate us?" The revelations, contained in a Newsweek history of the campaign, are likely to further damage Mrs Palin's credentials as a future presidential candidate. She is already a frontrunner, with Louisiana Governor Bobby Jindal, to take on Mr Obama in four years time. Details of the spike in threats to Mr Obama come as a report last week by security and intelligence analysts Stratfor, warned that he is a high risk target for racist gunmen. It concluded: "Two plots to assassinate Obama were broken up during the campaign season, and several more remain under investigation. We would expect federal authorities to uncover many more plots to attack the president that have been hatched by white supremacist ideologues." Irate John McCain aides, who blame Mrs Palin for losing the election, claim Mrs Palin took it upon herself to question Mr Obama's patriotism, before the line of attack had been cleared by Mr McCain. That claim is part of a campaign of targeted leaks designed to torpedo her ambitions, with claims that she did not know that Africawas a continent rather than a country. The advisers have branded her a "diva" and a "whack job" and claimed that she did not know which other countries are in the North American Free Trade Area, (Canada and Mexico). They say she spent more than $150,000 on designer clothes, including $40,000 on her husband Todd and that she refused to prepare for the disastrous series of interviews with CBS's Katie Couric. In a bid to salvage her reputation Mrs Palin came out firing in an interview with CNN, dismissing the anonymous leakers in unpresidential language as "jerks" who had taken "questions or comments I made in debate prep out of context." She said: "I consider it cowardly. It's not true. That's cruel, it's mean-spirited, it's immature, it's unprofessional and those guys are jerks if they came away taking things out of context and then tried to spread something on national news that's not fair and not right." She was not asked about her incendiary rhetoric against Mr Obama. But she did deny the spending spree claims, saying the clothes in question had been returned to the Republican National Committee. "Those are the RNC's clothes, they're not my clothes. I asked for anything more than maybe a diet Dr Pepper once in a while. These are false allegations." Speaking as she returned to her native Alaska, Mrs Palin claimed to be baffled by what she claims was sexism on the national stage. "Here in Alaska that double standard isn't applied because these guys know that Alaskan women are pretty tough, on a par with the men in terms of being outdoors, working hard," she said. "They're commercial fishermen, they're pilots, they're working up on the North slopein the oil fields. You see equality in Alaska. I think that was a bit of as surprise on the national level."
I didn't have a dog in it either, PSUSA. But I just get really pissed when the media starts all this friggin 'anonymous' source crap. I wish I could remember the full story and the 'quote' that the bastard alleged reporter asked her about........its like the gotcha game where they get you to give an answer and when you do even that is taken out of context for an 8 second sound bite where mankind will never heard the other 52 seconds of the response. Its along the same line of the doofus guys up in Canada pretending to be the frenchie leader. Hells bells--what would one expect--her to tell him to "go screw yourself frenchie"! Its all about image to the sheeple......and you certainly saw where virtually nothing that the big O did that was or could be considered a gaffaw seeing the mainstream attack dogs out in force. It took from January to very, very late October, early November for the 'coal bankruptcy' comments to be put out in the open air---naturally, too late to have made hay out of it. Ditto on his reverend--I guarantee you they will try their damnest to make Billy Graham look like a racist for not meeting up with the big O, even though Graham is a democrat, and is at deaths' door. A stake should be driven through the heart of virtually every newspaper and every television network for how badly they've served the public which has assented to their having a special place and rules in our society.
Spoken like an Obama voter :)
You are a very sick person. Coming here to spew your vitriolic gender hatred is an insult to all of us.
I would imagine the 'secret service' sources are anonymous, too. Any idea of how many death threats are issued against each candidate over the last 40 - 50 years? And exactly who told someone in the media what Michelle said to her best friend? She was the only thing the mccain campaiagn had going.........she was revving up crowds. The shit, and it is shit, about her speaking is what caused the skinhead types to become unhinged is more bullshit. THEY don't need any reason or any excuse to be the way they are-- they are misfits, trash, and one on one are cowardly. As I see it, they're trying to knock her down, so that 4 or 8 years from now there is no way for her to become a part of the national stage. They can because of the bullshit cited now at that time dredge up 'the past' so it can be held against her. Even today there are people who think the Clintons stole the WH silverware and that there were WMD in Iraq just waiting to be tossed our way! And they'll tell you the president said so........while conveniently forgetting OR not even bothering to keep up to day that he has also said it wasn't true. And as for calling people 'whores'........that is pretty despicable, especially considering you don't know it for a fact. The whole election and campaigning crap has reached the point that it brings out the worst in people, with the endless and mindless name-calling, etc. It is only an election for a change in government direction----it isn't the taking away of your left arm or something equally precious. People can disagree and still manage to not HATE.
You don't like the truth then too bad.
All I had to do was watch her and listen to what she said. She lied, prompted hatred and racism and did everything no matter how low it was in order to try and make people accept her.
A sick minded, woman hating person such as yourself, would not be able to recognize nor formulate the truth. You are a disgrace.
Cyni, I never gave Palin much thought, but given the level of hatred - from all the usual suspects - suggests she must have something going for her.
You are so full of shit your eyes are brown! And so full of hate, it is pathetic. And you wouldn't know the truth if it up and bit your nose! How sad........very sad.
Cite specific examples.
Palin was NOT running for president. None of the vitriol was ever aimed at McKooK. From all sources and sides it has been based on her gender. This sick person here seems to have a problem with females. That leads one to just one conclusion.
You don't like it when people speak the truth then tough shit. I served in another unnecessary and immoral war because of another lying scumbag named Johnson where I saw too damn many of my bros die for nothing and I'll be damned if I'll just quietly watch the scumbags like McCain, Palin, Bush and all the others who are destroying America continue to do so. If you don't have the guts to stand up for what is right in America then I suggest you get the hell out.
He isn't a man. Period.
Hey little boy.. .I'll tell you how sick I am of scumbags supporting those who are destroying our country. I have had it with this crap. If you little sissys don't have the balls to stand up for this country and would rather be poltically correct then you can kiss my ass.
rd... When they cannot attack on ones philosophy, they stoop to gender in this case. And I will say I suspect this hatred is coming from both pubs/dems. Both sections of the system see Palin as a future threat. Why??? If Palin would shuck the republican party and strike out on her own that would aim a dagger at the heart of the system. Thus this united and concerted effort to destroy her based on gender.
Phoenix AZ.... wanna give it a shot and find out boy? You and those like you are an embarassment to America and true Americans. You can't deal with the truth then tough shit.
I rather like the idea of who she's sleeping with. That old saying about 'lay down with dogs and get up with fleas'....her husband doesn't seem to have too many bad ideas if his belonging to the AIP is a hint. While Alaska is civilized, there is still a large degree of 'pioneering' spirit there--the do it yourself, take responsibility element. Its sounds like they're not afraid of work, and take chances, and like independence and freedom......perhaps he'll rub off on her if there are some that don't think she's so hot (the dog and flea story). Perhaps at some point it will come out that she took the chance at the vp slot in order to become known on the national stage, and not that she liked everything/anything about mccain. Furthermore, with her being in politics, and his having been involved with the American Independent party, they have to be aware of the chances a 3rd party run has. I don't believe either of them are dumb.
Your language tells us your true character, your limited intelligence, and your sad lack of mature intellectual thinking. Just look at your posts. A sad, despicable, woman hating person.
They are cruel and cowardly.. And allot of them are coming from the McCain campaign staff who are nothing but a bunch of craven wankers trying to cover their own asses after "managing" a throughly botched mess of re-invention's du jour. Blaming Palin, a political neophyte from a state that is, to put it politely, quite dissimilar to the lower 48, for being herself is beyond absurd. They picked her, now they're tossing her under the bus because she failed to be something she is not.. Forgetting that she was hum strung out of the gate with McCain's ridiculous platform and the millstone of 8 years of George W Bush. What folks should remember about these jerks isn't the horrible campaign they ran, it's this after the fact smear campaign. The message is clear: Don't hire them... Ever. If you hire them and you lose, they'll knife you. Find someone else!
~Your failure to be informed, does not make me a wacko.~
Hey tough guy, sit down and STFU. Big s**t you went to Nam. It's ancient
history. Now what about the one National political party you so detest? Seems
to me you hate only one wing. All your hate is directed at Palin, who is off
the stage and in Alaska. She won't be affecting your life anytime soon, but
the bastard you adore and his Zionist VP and cabinet sure as hell will. Stick
that in the empty part of your head.
I realize now that this board has become just like LP and Freepers. You are all afraid to stand up and fight for our country. You run and hide and let it be destroyed. Well, if you don't like my language then tough shit. I don't like the fact that Americans are dying in unnecessary wars and that the scumbag neocons are making money from it. You are a coward for refusing to defend this country and I am damn glad there were not many of you in Nam or I probably wouldn't have made it home either.
Yes..........and it is a possibility I've thought of from the get/go when I found out that Todd had been a member of the American Independent party, and initially the media had tried to paint her as a member. These two are not dumb people. And they come from a state where people have to be independent and take responsibility, and value these and freedom. She may well have taken the change on getting her name on the national level at this time. The actions of all the 'anonymous' sources, not to mention the media bastards appear to be a deliberate attempt to have 'fodder' for a future smear campaign.
Some such as myself did our part before you were born, so your Nam BS is just that. You are a sick person, live with it. A female hating sick person of the most despicable type. Sick.
I'll sit down and shut up when you anti-American, politically correct pussies either learn to stand up for American or you are run out of the country. And yes, Nam was a long time ago.. but unlike most of you cowards I served, killed others and watched my bros be killed for nothing. Yes I am venting but it is because I can't stand you anti-American cowards. Politically correct punks.
God bless his independence. I'd join a party like that in a heartbeat. Her too. She's now in my good guy column. With the relentless attacks on her by the loony left, she's worth a second look. Go Sarah. I LOVE women who can shoot a gun.
You've spoken the truth, JH--and, of course, its all predicated on finding out who all these 'anonymous sources' are...the cowards!
The very thot of Palin striking out on her own brings fear to the hearts of the good ole boy pubs that are jockeying for position.
I hope American's come to their senses and stop running and hiding. You wouldnt' know what war is like would you coward. What has happened to this country - cowards like you is what happened to it.
Up yours silly putty head.
As I said some of us did our time before you were born. One brother died, I got home with my skin in one piece, many friends died, all before your time. Using Nam as a crutch is cowardly, but that goes with your female hating.
Sweetpea, you need to calm down. The election is over. It's done, finished, that's it. What is the point? You have a bigger enemy than Palin and he's sitting in the White House..
Palin's 2 speeches and debate performance are 3 of the only things i listened to in entirety during this whole show. from all I noted I conclude that it's wishful thinking to believe she is not a neocon. this is the one who said iraq war is "God's plan". Not hard to condlude the word KOOK from there. also i noticed she relayed several times the notion that we should thank the troops 'for our freedoms'., which is more b.s., they certainly dont give us our freedoms and dont protect them either. so even if palin is well intentioned, which she may be, shes not on the right track. its irrelevant anyway because if someone was good and didnt go along, theyd be removed from power.
MY REPLY TO ZEITGEIST: 1John Chapter 2: "21 I write to you not because you do not know the truth but because you do, and because every lie is alien to the truth. 22 Who is the liar? Whoever denies that Jesus is the Christ. Whoever denies the Father and the Son, this is the antichrist." You are painting with a pretty broad brush up there, but I'll give you this. You're half right. I'd fight for the people in this country.. Eve die for them. I refuse to fight for a pipeline or a corporation, however. I think allot of people feel the same way.. In fact, I haven't seen the US military defend us against anything in the entire time I've been alive.. While this says nothing about those who served and their motivations, it is a terrible indictment of their leadership.
~Your failure to be informed, does not make me a wacko.~
Yeah, you're right.. The WHO is the most important thing. It's odd isn't it? We all know a dead hamster would have pulled down 30% against McCain this time out.. Why finger Palin for being what she is? They're afraid she'll come back prepared and polished in 2012?
~Your failure to be informed, does not make me a wacko.~
Look........Cyni fought in the Spanish American War! :) [edit: to insert a smily face to signify a 'funny'--and not the truth cause he ain't THAT old!].Where were you when he needed you? This has nothing to do with who has fought in which war for what cause, or why it was fought, or where it was fought. This is about a woman who ran for the VICE PRESIDENCY. That you think it is racist to point out who a candidate hangs out with is your problem, not hers. Ditto for a certain minister and his comments against America. That doesn't make her a racist, for cryin out loud! You're known by the company you keep. You hang out with a bunch of drunks and folks will think you're one, too. Hang out in a queer lounge and folks will think you're queer, too. Hang out with a terrorist and folks SHOULD think you're aligned with them, too. However, over half the nation WAS RACIST in this election.....but it wasn't Sarah Palin or her fault. Ask yourself......remember the Clinton days when all the blacks hung around him and with him--in fact the saying was that he was the first black president? Now, here just a few years later, and after years and years of still pandering to the black community, the black community, tossed Bil and Hil over in a heartbeat. Why was that? There was a BLACK man running. Plain and simple. They were racists. After all, she had a hell of a lot more experience than he; she certainly had more name recognition; better funded; and was essentially the big cheese in the dem party. Your complaint/bitch about Sarah Palin is totally unjustified.
I don't think it is just the loony left---there's some of their wannabe cohorts from the other side of the aisle that are whining, too--especially the ones who threw her under that bus!
Artisan, I honestly didn't think much of her, but the longer this unwarranted bashing goes on, the more I hope she changes a few core positions and comes back like a lion. W/O the yoke of McCain and the R-party, for that matter, she might be capable of being a national 3rd party leader. As Rowdee mentioned her husband had been associated with the AIP, which seems solid. I can't think of any other reason - except that she represents danger - that she's still the object of hate (except in the case of ugly women who are jealous)):
I look at my children and grandchildren and wonder what they hell they are going to have to face as they grow up. I'm sick of politically correct crap. If a person does something that hurts the future of our country I have no problem saying it. There was no cause for her to spew this kind of crap that inflames skinheads and others. I am tired of people just sitting back playing games and whining while our country is destroyed. If I see Obama do anything remotely close to the damage the neocons have done to our country I will raise just as much hell about him and what he did as I have done since the 80s. I have no desire to be politically correct and I am damned tired of people refusing to stand up for America and speak out against those who have done things to seriously damage it. Right now I am as angry as hell about it and if not speaking out against it means being politically correct, polite and friendly then I don't want to have anything to do with those things. Our country is being destroyed and it's about time we start shooting those who do are doing it.
I believe so, too, Cyni......they saw how everyone went ape over her. Her ability to speak effectively and draw crowds. They saw/heard the Hillary wimmen talking voting for her.......wimmen are something like 54% of the population. They saw that she didn't blindly throw support behind candidates suspected of corruption, that good old boys' club bunch. They saw there was a breath of fresh air.......and that hot on the heels of how Ron Paul scared the bejiggers out of them--especially with the money bomb routines!
I think Sarah represents a danger to those Rockefeller types, hence the under the bus treatment. That's makes her A-OK in my book.
Start with Obongo, Biden, Emanuel and Axelrod. That should wake them up - as for you there's no hope.
Clintons are anti-American neocons just like the rest of that bunch. The only reason Clinton got into the whitehouse was because bush sr was terrified that the truth about Iraq and what his and Reagan's administration did would come out. America began to go downhill starting with Johnson and it hasn't looked back since. I'm tired of the gutting of our rights and liberties, the intentional destruction of our economy (and yes I got it from the horses mouth that the economy is pushed into recessions to "reward the wealthy for having had to pay and sacrifice to make the economy strong" (Senator Paul Laxalt told me that to my face while he was visiting his daughter who was my next door neighbor). It's about time we stand up aginst this crap and quit playing politics.
Tell ya what........as it regards Gods plans......nothing happens by chance in this world, IMO. The Bible contains many stories of God using leaders of nations to work his purposes--usually punishments against the Israelites or the nation as a whole. He doesn't have to use just Christians to do His work. I also believe it would be impossible to find a leader with whom I could agree 100% of the time--unless, of course, that leader was me! So long as the anti- dem and anti-rep people continue to nit-pick to find just the perfect candidate for every issue, they'll be like the little kid with his nose up against the candy story window....on the outside looking in. Military, social security, health care, banking, environment, immigration, space exploration, trade agreements, abortion, gay marriage, 911 Truth Movement, USS Liberty Movement, cute, sexy, articulate, looks good in jeans....these are just a few things that people consider in a candidate...there surely are many more. Have you found one yet that agrees with you on every single issue? What is your cut off point? 90% agreement? 80%? What about 70%? Maybe even 65%? Would you go 60%? Where is your line in the sand?
Language, border, culture. Everything else to me plays second fiddle.
And you think she was inciting people to do bad things? Holy bat shit, man-- you need to get a grip on reality, and soon.
All a person needs to do in America today is say the word terrorist and there are hundreds of thousands who go wacko at just the mention of it. America has become another potential 1930s Germany and it is self-destructing at a rapid pace because of it.
Obama is in bed w/Ayres who is a terrorist. Emanuel is the son or a terrorist. I think your anger is misplaced.
You might as well brace yourself, moonie..........America is not going to get better. There is no way this nation is going to go back to better days--said days being before LBJ, at the minimum. Democrats are progressives--always moving towards their goal--their goal being total domination of your life and the national scene--they're socialists at heart, or communist. They are more than willing to take a step, halt, take a step, half, go back l step, halt, go foward 2 steps, halt, go back l, step foward 2, halt, halt, go forward l, back l, halt, forward 2. I'll give you an example. Teddy the Swimmer's goal is to put most of the budget into education. Bush was elected. Against conservatives who like Reagan wanted to get rid of the Dept of Education, he plays the stupid little game of trying to get on the good side, off to a good start, make fwiends, blah blah blah, and comes up with this NCLB crap, and put up some funding--a substantial increase in education spending. The left just pitched a fit because there was 'inadeuqate' funding. Next go round, there's more $$$$$$$$$ put in the kitty; they still yowl and howl and piss and moan and groan; so whap--more money, more money, more money. But notice, they are never satisfied with the amount, though the total spending has tripled by now? In the cloakroom, they're laughing their assses off at pulling another coup off. And they don't even have to take the blame.......the damn gop and its rinos are busting their butts to give the president whatever he wants!!! And it worked-- viola!--even for Clinton, when he had a gop congress!!! And the stupid gop, namely Pete Domenici stands in the halls of congress and brags that they, the gop, have given more education funding than even clinton ASKED for!!! You need to learn how this goes......cause its working the same way with these wars and other ways to take the future from your kids and grandkids---and just think- -most of us have kids and grandkids, too, that we care just as deeply for as you do yours!! What a thought........
RELATED: Poll: 64 Percent Of Republicans Want Palin To Run In 2012 http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/11/07/poll-64-percent-of-republ_n_142284.html
~Your failure to be informed, does not make me a wacko.~
Buy yourself a clue---Wallace, JFK, and Reagan weren't talking about terrorists......for cryin out loud, the dimwit that took the pop at Reagan was upset cause Jodie Foster, a person on the silver screen and not even in his own frickin life, wasn't his lover! Any thing and nothing can set dimwits and misfits off. What about the birdbrain drug fried mansonite that tried to off Jerry Ford? You make no sense........
Today in America the left is not the threat... the neocon fake conservatives are the threat. Remember, neocons are not conservatives. They are former ultra left wingers of the Democrat party in the 50s who insisted that the U.S. confront the USSR even if it meant a nuclear war. Research the background of neocons and you will see that some are former members of the American Communist Party, the Socialist Workers Party and other anti-Stalin communist organizations. The left in the entire 200+ years of existence of the U.S. have not come close to doing the damage to America and Americans that the neocons have in less than 30 years. This anti-left propaganda started in the 80s and is part of the plan of the neocons to create a division between conservatives and liberals that they could take advantage of to promote their imperialistic world control agenda. All a person needs to do is look at what has happened since the 60s. Today's neocons were very much in favor of the Vietnam war, the attacks on Greneda, Panama, Iraq and other countries. Remember, the PNAC said that the U.S. needs to constantly be involved in two or more wars in multiple areas of the world to show its strength and that any country who even remotely appears to be a threat to the U.S., economically or militarily needs to be crushed and then controlled by the U.S. This is communism.
Right down to obamessiahs new Sturmabteilung and Hitler Youth Service Corps he is setting up. In fact, in his acceptance speech, the propaganda techniques could clearly be seen, i.e. admiring himself and being on stage alone. It's all about him. He is an egomanical, smooth talking, and just plain scary. Hitler's reincarnation from the pages of history.
Law Enforcement Against Prohibition "Corporation: An entity created for the legal protection of its human parasites, whose sole purpose is profit and self-perpetuation." © IndieTx Oh puleeze.......... Division between conservatives and liberals? the left and the right have battled forever. LOLOL.
Neocons are Trotskyites who come to us from the left. Try again
The left and right have not battled for ever. They had differences but they didn't play the hate game they have play..... oh never mind. The current vicious hatred of the liberals was started in the 80s by the neocons. I'm not going to waste any more time disucssing this. I doubt most of you even remember what it was like in the 50s and 60s.
When you can provide one instance of anything obama or anybody else for that matter that has done as much damage as the bush administration then I'll listen. Until then don't waste my time with conspiracy theories.
I heard Robin is a dog face. Surely she fits?
That's stupid and childish, but you knew that already. Let it go, man, or...you did, didn't you? You donated like $100 to her site right before getting banned. Tell me it's not true.
And they write innumerable books; being too vain and distracted for silence: seeking every one after his own elevation, and dodging his emptiness. - T. S. Eliot
Not nice.. :(
~Your failure to be informed, does not make me a wacko.~
Springtime for Trotsky And they write innumerable books; being too vain and distracted for silence: seeking every one after his own elevation, and dodging his emptiness. - T. S. Eliot
From the anti-Stalinists who became conservatives – including James Burnham, Whittaker Chambers, and Irving Kristol – the Right gained a political education and, in some cases, an injection of passion. The ex-radicals brought with them the knowledge that ideological movements must have journals and magazines to articulate their perspectives. In 1955, for example, William F. Buckley, Jr., launched National Review at the urging of Willi Schlamm, a former German Communist. In its early years, National Review was largely written and edited by the Buckley family and a handful of former Communists, Trotskyists, and socialists, such as Burnham and Chambers. It played a major role in creating the Goldwaterite and Reaganite New Right and in stimulating an anti-Soviet foreign policy. Worthy of note is that while ex-Stalinists tended to denounce their Communist roots vehemently, neoconservatives like Kristol and Schwartz remain at least wistfully fond of Trotsky. It's also worth noting that the neoconservative preoccupation with exporting social democracy abroad through war and mercantilism reflects the original split between Trotsky and Stalin. Trotsky argued that there could not be "socialism in one country" but rather that the revolution had to be truly international. And so the neoconservatives push for "human rights" and social democratic governments to be imposed on Serbia, for example, by force of arms. Bingo, Dak.
Look who is throwing the 'hate' card around.........as bad as them bastards are in DC, they don't spout crap as hatefully as you do. They have differences, major differences, and fight tooth and nail for their cause. They don't run around espousing shooting everyone that doesn't agree with them as you do. You'd best be forgoing further discussion at this point about the matter.
My "conspiracy theories" are taken from obamesiah's own words you ignorant DUMB ASS. You're #12 on the bozo list for being ignorant without a license. Dumb fuck hypocrite sheople is what you are.
Law Enforcement Against Prohibition "Corporation: An entity created for the legal protection of its human parasites, whose sole purpose is profit and self-perpetuation." © IndieTx Palin was a neocon prop, promoted by Bill Kristol and coached by Joe Lieberman. What could be more perfect than a folksy-sounding, telegenic airhead to sell the PNAC foreign policy agenda? When someone like Joe Lieberman or Randy Schuenemann stumps for Israel or threatens to annihilate an Arab country, it's kind of obvious what it's all about. When a Pentacostal from Alaska talks about nuking Iran in the name of God, well, the rubes think that it's as all-American as apple pie.
Good point. We really don't know what caused McCain to settle on her. She certainly was compatible on the Israel issue.
~ Your failure to be informed, does not make me a wacko.
Listen to you, Obamapenisbreath !!! You're a bad joke with a worse punch line.
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
Deep Down (because the f**king liars will never admit it) all of *US* (the non- cabalites) are a present or future threat. Palin's no threat, as evidenced by her non-America first 'tude exhibited WHILE hitched to the reptile aka Juan McCucaracha.
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
It would be fun, but unfortunately, you rate down in the bathhouse with ferret corn flake liar commie girl. As in, you just don't rate little timer. ;-)
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
Just look at your posts. A sad, despicable, woman hating person. I enjoy cursing and spitting on Communists. It's best in person, though.
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
They suck cabal johnson. They REALLY loved FDR !! But Obamalamadingdonger captivates them in tingling ways they that just can't fully articulate.
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
And yet you voted for Obama. Seek help.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. I'm tired of the gutting of our rights and liberties And yet you voted for Obama. Seek help. I hate to say this, because I love retards. Know lots of them, work for their benefit a lot. But the Ophiles seem to be at least mildly stunted in their mental capacity, and or not fully recovered from severe emotional or physical (head) trauma.
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
And you supported (voted for but you will never admit it I'm sure) the *WORST* World Communist Fascist Cabal toadie ever presented as the selection in AmeriKa. Well done, retard.
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
She has nothing to lose now by telling the WHOLE truth about Juan mcStain and his lousy band of RINO-faggots. She has too many deal breakers for me, but it would be nice to fillet these bastards from an insider's view.
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
Some of them--a fairly large number I'm sure--are young, idealistic, naive and gullible, easily swayed by peer pressure. But people who are over 25 or 30 years old and still vote for someone who refuses to produce the proof that he is even a citizen of this country are past help.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. Yeah, a vote for a Big Government Statist Black Panther Kosher Marxist Globalist stepandfetchit is a great start. -end sarcasm-
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
I know. Some people really SHOULD NOT use marijuana !
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
The election is over. It's done, finished, that's it. What is the point? You have a bigger enemy than Palin and he's sitting in the White House.. biam is a retard knows. He-she-it voted for the Obamalamadingdonger !
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
She's a NEOCON. If she wasn't before, she is now.
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
I'd fight for the people in this country.. Eve die for them. I refuse to fight for a pipeline or a corporation, however. I think allot of people feel the same way.. In fact, I haven't seen the US military defend us against anything in the entire time I've been alive.. While this says nothing about those who served and their motivations, it is a terrible indictment of their leadership. I can't fight for Obamalamadingdongers. I would find it hard to fight for most partisan Repubicans and everyone that wasn't ignorant/scared/stupid but voted FOR mcCain. So that really only leaves a rather slim populace that I'd fight for. And fight I will. ;-)
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
They're afraid she'll come back prepared and polished in 2012? Anything that remotely appears to be "Conservative" is like garlic to the leadership of the GOP and that includes most State leadership. If not all.
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
Anybody that stays in the Republicrat-Democan dialectic at this point will never get it.
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
I've got a pretty good idea. She has a vagina, she was folksy, she was a social conservative, and most importantly she would say whatever her handlers told her to say. She was a news anchor by training, thats all she did, read her script. She would have been the nominee in 2012 if she wasn't so stupid. Some might object to calling her stupid, but either she is stupid, or she is massively ignorant and completely intellectually lazy. She is George Bush in a skirt.
I just got this from the neocon site ' humaneventsonline.com ' (I subscribe to various enemies of freedom email lists to see what they're up to) With them shilling for her what other proof does anyone need? ;-/ -------------------------------- NEW: YOU CAN KEEP "THE CHANGE" PALIN * 2012 Bumper Stickers! I'll keep my guns, freedom, and money. You can keep "the change!" Vote Sarah Palin for President in 2012! The Liberal Media wants you to think that Sarah Palin held John McCain back. We all know that John McCain's campaign surged ahead because of Sarah. She's a rising star in the GOP and could easily defeat Barack Obama in 2012! The Palin Revolution is about to break out and you can be on the cutting edge with this clever new bumper sticker! This 2-PACK includes one for each of your vehicles, whether it's your gas guzzlin' SUV, pick-up truck, or "hockey mom" minivan! RETAIL $19.95 • ONLY $9.86 FOR 2-PACK WITH FREE SHIPPING! ORDER 2-PACK NOW! • IN STOCK FRIDAY, NOV. 14TH! ORDER 10-PACK RETAIL $99.50 • FOR ONLY $29.88 with FREE SHIPPING!
MY REPLY TO ZEITGEIST: 1John Chapter 2: "21 I write to you not because you do not know the truth but because you do, and because every lie is alien to the truth. 22 Who is the liar? Whoever denies that Jesus is the Christ. Whoever denies the Father and the Son, this is the antichrist." I never gave Palin a second thought after she signed on with with McCain, but can anyone explain to me the vitriol she is receiving from the Ds and Neos in defeat? Quick, can you remember Bob Dole's VP pick? Lots here do, because we live and breathe this stuff, but Jack Kemp is lost to history since that similar disaster of a campaign. The ongoing personal assault on her has a political message, and all the usual suspects are driving it. She'd be insane to consider running again, and with her currently stated policies, I'd never support her, but it's the continuous, vicious attack on her that should be a red flag to us. It's a distraction to the economic meltdown, Obama's odious appointments and god knows what else.
Answer... McKook was the person running for President, not Palin. KooK is 74 years old, finished, gone,history, into the dustbin, a political nobody. Palin is 44 years old and struck a nerve that brought out the white trash, nobody Americans, that no one likes. Remember there are MILLIONS of Americans that belong to no party, no ideology, with allegiance to no one in this rotten system. The system has decided that her gender alone is basis for degrading her into oblivion. Despicable people here have called her a whore, found no fault with her being called worse names, all of which is in fact the system busy at work in this rotten business. Palin cannot be allowed to exist as she appeals to the unwashed millions that are not part of the system.
McCain has another 10 years in the Senate. Byrd is 90, Inouye, 84, Stevens the same, I could go on. IMHO, Palin is unabashedly pro-life and this is at least part of the reason for the assault. This reminds me of the Clarance Thomas electronic lynching, much of that came from the feminist harpies.
Palin can come back from this, and nobody I know dislikes her that much. Politically her and I don't resonate but on a personel level I find allot of good things about this cute little piece of Tundra Trash. I hope we have not heard the last of her. And really, my political instincts say we haven't.
She's a neophyte from a backward mini-state, completely unprepared for national politics. She was herself. That's what they're blaming her for. I'm not a fan of her's and I didn't vote for her.. But I would like to know why the anger isn't directed at McCain, who has a long history in the Senate and knows the score and the importance of this nomination, but picked her anyway.. and allegedly at the spur of the moment, with no real vetting or consideration. Anyone who thinks she cost him the election should perhaps look at who chose her in the first place. That would be McCain. Instead, we're hearing all this crap about her wardrobe and on and on.. What about the guy who would wanted to potentially leave our nuclear arsenal in the hands of noob?
~ Your failure to be informed, does not make me a wacko.
That's the key question. This might be a simple matter of the Establishment welcoming McCain back into the fold, while using her as a scapegoat for the debacle. It's overboard ugly, even for the political types.
What about Rahm Emmanuel's self-enrichment at Fannie/Freddie ???? Go back to sleep !
Where's your birth certificate Barack ? Where's your Granny ??? Are Americans expected to subject themselves to an unapologetic communist ??? Ya just gotta be shittin me !!!
You must be joking. This is the Establishment playing political Krystalnacht on a personal level. Her best revenge is to dump her GOP baggage and fire away from the safety of the alternative media, for as long as it stays up and running.
Huh?
McCain is a bi-partisan genius who isn't afraid to give the isle a reach-around or whatever it is.. He ran on a neo-conservative "security" platform and got laughed out of the voting booth for it. Who knows what they're protecting? Him? His neo-con message? Inoculating themselves against Palin in 2012? The way his campaign was run? There's allot of options to choose from in this regard. Still, I think if they keep this crap up all they're going to do is create a tidal wave of sympathy for this woman. I didn't care for her at all, but I'm even seeing the bias and hate that's being misdirected here. If this continues, it will all blow up right in their faces. It's always nameless, drive by type attacks too. Makes it look even worse.
~ Your failure to be informed, does not make me a wacko.
That's where I'm at. I didn't and wouldn't vote for her, but to see all the political trash still piling on, I wonder what threat did she represent? I always found running up the score usually comes back to bite people.
My response was simply pointing out the ludicrous outrage at Palins clothing and hardly a peep about Rahm Emmanuel and the Bankshysters raping the country financially.
Where's your birth certificate Barack ? Where's your Granny ??? Are Americans expected to subject themselves to an unapologetic communist ??? Ya just gotta be shittin me !!!
this is more of the keep the two party fraud alive. palin's a neocon. there's nothing she has ever said to indicate otherwise.
Amen !
Where's your birth certificate Barack ? Where's your Granny ??? Are Americans expected to subject themselves to an unapologetic communist ??? Ya just gotta be shittin me !!!
Palin never once fooled the intellectual giants that demean her gender. The only people she conned were the unwashed, bitter white trash Americans. So why do our elite thinking friends concern themselves about us????????????? "80,000,000 plus Americans that belong to NO ONE pose a danger to the system, if God forbid, someone were to walk on stage and say "follow me". Cant have that, can we?
Agree. When the clothing budget of a vanquished opponent is more offensive than a Rahm Emmanuel appointment, something reeks.
:) What would she be wearing? Victoria's Secret or 'Fish & Tackle'?
Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'
Are you sure she understands 'gender'? What is Gender anyway? Is it Italian? Can a girl buy Gender at Walmart or is it a Barney's exclusive?
Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'
Sarah Palin Is Pro Amnesty For Illegal Aliens - Univision Interview
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
She's the anti-dyke.
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
There's no doubt mcTraitor would have lost by double digits without palin.
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
That is political and fair game. Whether or not she is a whore or worse is not political. Example...If one delves into McKooKs closet, we would be able to label him a...whore master...But that did not happen as he is finished on the national scene. We either have a lot of homosexuals here that hate women, or people that are shoveling manure for the system. Maybe both.
Whether or not she is a whore or worse is not political. There's no doubt she's (now at least) a political whore.
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
McTraitorwhore
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
Certainly both. Comes with their depraved territory.
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
I hope we never hear from her again. Sarah Palin Is Pro Amnesty For Illegal Aliens - Univision Interview i'm with you. it's her politics. now if she begins talking like a Ron Paul republican, i'll listen.
The fear to the system is that Palin just MIGHT strike out on her own. The Huckabees, Romneys etc etc are not about to share party control with Palin nor any other outsider.
I'll wonder. ;-)
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
I'm still not sure her outsider image is true. Israel vetted her a long time ago and found her well suited to boost the last charade.
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
I'm still not sure her outsider image is true. Israel vetted her a long time ago and found her well suited to boost the last charade. Had you ever heard of her before???? I had'nt nor neither had most Americans. Zionists certainly would have never promoted someone so stupid, ignorant and a whore, would they?
If she's serious, she'll get back to the business of AK seceding. Of course I'd be glad to help THAT cause. ;-)
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
That's the way I see it.. With 8 years of Dubya's "legacy" then the bailout, topped off by McCain's own neo-tarded message around their ankle's like a ball & chain, what did anyone expect? She didn't lose it for them.. If anyone is to blame here it's McCain and Dubya.
~ Your failure to be informed, does not make me a wacko.
I can't believe mcCain was anything but the fall guy, an acceptable 2nd if all measures to ensure the outcome were blown open.
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
Those two attacked "Conservatives" and will be the last memory of the GOP that Constitutionalists will have. Dr. Ron (R) is an aberration at this point. The National Party locked up the whole thing and eliminated opposition (the remnant of the GOP).
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
The narrative says there will now be a "war" for the "heart" of the party. In reality, they'll just repackage the same message and peddle it again in 2010. We need a divorce.
~ Your failure to be informed, does not make me a wacko.
In reality, they'll just repackage the same message and peddle it again in 2010. We need a divorce. It became clear to me, once and for all, that politics are a waste of time now and it's over save for the 'what comes next'; fight, flee or capitulate.
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
Ya know, JT, I woke up this morning thinking about this, with all the brouhaha trying to make her out to be some DIVA. Well, I've got a big old question........how many women in the world do you or any other man, or woman, for that matter, know that would be considered a DIVA by anyones' standards that is as outdoorsy, shoot, gut, and skin out a moose, or cut and clean fish type? How many divas does anyone know that can pick up a gun, let alone shoot it as well as a man? How many women does anyone know that has 5 kids who have all had puke and shitty diapers that think they're a diva? Beyond the sour grapes of jealous wimmen and queers, this is definitely an attempt to plant something in the background for history and in the minds of people........and as Cyni says, "Who".........others might say, "Why", and then others will simply march in lock step calling her a whore (with no evidence to support this smear), stupid (again without evidence), blah blah blah. And if you consider some more of the whine--like they couldn't get her to listen to their indoctrination so she could be interviewed, and there are people eating that allegation up, why would they think she'd be a complaint anything else if in office....that gives credence to being an independent thinker/doer. As for the clothes allegation, she has gone on the record as saying she buys at a consignment shopt, or a 2nd hand shop up in Alaska........if this weren't so, that would be plastered all over, in headlines and on talking media, that it was checked out and she lied! Cripes, there's even bitching that she answered a hotel door for the apparent handlers as she got out of the shower and had a towel wrapped around her!!! Guess they preferred a bare-assed nekkid womana to answer the door. AND if she hadn't answered the door, the rumor mill would be that she was too busy trying to 'beautify' herself, or was so petulant about why she only had this or that to wear. It is all such paris hilton type bullshit. Even a number on this board have bought the juice on this one.
And as I recall, she spoke favorably of Ron Paul........and we know he shook some cages with the internet fund raising!
I would venture to say that the word was put out to destroy Palin from both sides of the aisle. Ferraro was destroyed, lost two elections and faded away. Good ole boys hate women.
I believe that was in interview done after she was selected and during the time the mcCain campaign asked RP for his support.
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
You nailed it dee. Sarah Palin is certainly no diva, that's for sure, per the list you gave. But the word "diva" will stick in voters' minds 4 or 8 years hence. It has a nice catchy put-down ring to it does it not. It's the exact opposite of what Sarah Palin is - and for all her warts, being a diva was not one of those warts. If anything Palin was an ordinary person who was outside the Beltway who did not shmooze at cocktail parties in DC or NYC. She was a person of the people who connected with the people. MSM and the movers and shakers within the RNC and DNC want Sarah Palin marginalized. That's the "who", imo. The "why" is something for us to ponder.
Cant have that, can we? For her, this agreeing to be on the ticket was the easiest way to get name recognition at the national level. (I daresay most of the kids graduating today or just recently probably can't even find Alaska on a map!) Something like 54% of our population are women. Geeze, we even saw women from NOW supporting her! Now that had the scare the bejiggers out of some people. And her positive thoughts and remarks about Ron Paul. When you stop to think of how the environuts have used the tactics of running to court to try to run the country, it should be a lesson that it is necessary to play the system with the rules that are there available for everyone, but just aren't used. In elections, there is a distinct advantage in name recognition--just look at how the sheeple went bonkers over a guy they'd never heard of EXCEPT the speech he had given some 3 years prior. Remember how the media just gushed and gushed and gushed, and anytime he was in the news, it was always with the mention of the keynote speech at the previous convention, so if you had sort of forgotten who he was, you were reminded! Thus far, I don't recall, other than Perot, candidates that didn't have national name recognition. Along with name recognition, there is the issue of gender, whether anyone wants to admit it or not. Its my opinion that most men don't cotton to having a woman boss. Anyways, between her being one of us dissatisfied 80 million people, having a free and independent husband (and possibly those same feelings in her heart), and now national recognition, should there be a movement within the next several years to go third party, at least a large part of the problem in gaining a following is already taken care of. She's a feisty little fighter, not afraid to swing a punch, whereas someone like Ron Paul doesn't have that in his nature. Sarah isn't dumb. She has to know that running 3rd party WITHOUT a bunch of positives going ahead of you that it would be virtually impossible to win national office. I knew it back in 86 when I ran for a state office--my heart was independent, but there was no way that would happen because there was no groundwork laid many years beforehand.
The answer is none
(some close tho) and that's what really frightens her condescending, nasty
opponents. I've discussed her politics, which aren't mine, but if she was a D,
her story - from mom, to mayor to governor - would qualify her for sainthood.
The character assassination is about the small town qualities she represents
and, more importantly, what she might become. Rather than toss people like her
over board immediately, I'd ask all those who once thought Bush was a
conservative to pause before doing so. Just maybe events happen for a reason,
and just maybe this disgusting political over kill will ignite a spark in her,
Todd, or some other person yet to be identified. If our side decides second
chances are verboten, and people never change, I'd suggest our litmus test is
impossible to meet.
Yes, and you can also imagine the hatred that went forth when she didn't endorse Stevens because of the cloud he was under......and as the jury decided, she was correct not to.
I believe it was before because that was one of the things the media initially whined about. And Buchanan as well.........they tried to stick that on her, when she had in fact worked with the Forbes people, though she apparently had spoken positively as it regards Buchanan as well. These sorts of things ought to be telling us something----she doesn't seem all that mainstream gop to me. Forbes never got near the top, nor did PJB.
I believe that is a large part of the why. Only the 'anointed', i.e., GW, should 'connect' with the people. I believe that there are those who feel she is no 'gw' when it comes to being handled. Some of her governatorial agreements in Alaska weren't exactly embraced by the gop--didn't fit in with their idea of how things should be. This is another little thing we should tuck back in our minds as to the why......at some point, there should be some connecting of the dots.
I'm not closing my mind to her; but for the record I didn't vote for that ticket--she wasn't at the top and I wouldn't vote for mccain for dog catcher; like Cyni, I didn't even waste my time this cycle. One of the big problems with folks that are disenfranchised or disenchanged or disgusted is that if perfection is not seen in their eyes, they'll stab the person and/or their character with a thousand verbal knife wounds. Bob Barr, who was at odds, via his voting record, with many things most here on the board are against, was never hammered with this viciousness being shown Palin. And what about Howard Phillips or Chuck Baldwin.......geeze, even PJB wasn't excoriated like this. I really do believe in keeping alert to the Why and Who of this.
As usual, you opened your mouth and inserted foot before engaging what little brain you apparently have. Then again, I know you don't read posts or you would know who I voted for.
If you didn't vote for the sob why are you always singing his praises like someone with a sub moron IQ?
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. of course she is, and i find it hard to believe that anyone here for one moment would believe otherwise,.. I was just tryin to be diplomatic about it. ;-)
MY REPLY TO ZEITGEIST: 1John Chapter 2: "21 I write to you not because you do not know the truth but because you do, and because every lie is alien to the truth. 22 Who is the liar? Whoever denies that Jesus is the Christ. Whoever denies the Father and the Son, this is the antichrist." You mean why have I not bought into all the propaganda and been willing to be a victim of the politicians use of the "divide and conquer" tactics? If he does half the crap the neocon propaganda says he will do then I will turn against him and his administration just like I did the previous 3 administrations. While you and those like you wander off and buy into the propaganda about what "may" happen in the future intelligent people are concentrating and speaking out against what the bush administration and commie neocons are doing now. Divide and conquer: Bush’s new strategy to win in Iraq and at home themoderatevoice.com/gene...-win-in-iraq-and-at-home/ Divide and Conquer: The Anglo-American Imperial Project www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=9451 Crisis in the U.S.: 'Plan B'? www.thepeoplesvoice.org/c...ces.php/2007/11/17/p21127 www.richardccook.com./challenger.php INSIDE WASHINGTON: Auditors go easy on contractors
James asked you if you voted for Obama. Did you?
No, you are twisting my words. Something I guess I should expect from an Obamaphile. What I asked was why you are always singing his praises like someone with a sub moron IQ if you didn't vote for him? If you don't know that he is owned, lock, stock and barrel by the same establishment that owns Bush and his daddy you need to do a lot more reading. Either that or just admit you don't care that he is just another establishment clown. And if that is the case you should love Bush too.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. It would be hard to believe he didn't the way he is always singing his praises and posting whatever article he can find that speaks well of the Obamasiah.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. James... I recall after Johnson got us in a hell of a war that no admitted ever voting for him. They all sang his praises until the body bags came home on a DAILY basis. Some people follow any Pied Piper, moonie and his ilk follow their Piper because he is black. The tune he is playing is nothing but Jewish folk Music.
Yep. And I would bet that the "tunes" he and that thing he calls a wife like the best are probably rap songs about how terrible whitey is and how they would like to kill all white people, at least the ones who haven't bought into the act and the scam.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. I don't care what you believe or think. I don't have to justify anything to you or anybody else. I know who I voted for and why. Unlike you, I don't let public opinion (liberal vs. conservative) influence my decisions. You want to be a conservative or a liberal then that's your business. I am neither.. I am an American.
I bet he did.
Prove it
Impossible... One cannot march in lockstep with this corrupt political system and be an American.
That's just where I was going.
#2. To: christine (#0)
-Schweizerische Schuetzenzeitung (Swiss Shooting Federation) April, 1941
#3. To: X-15 (#2)
William Kristol: Palin's advice to McCain: Take the gloves off in debate
#4. To: All (#3)
"It's mean-spirited. It's immature. It's unprofessional and those guys are jerks if they came away with it, taking things out of context, and then tried to spread something on national news."
#5. To: PSUSA (#4)
#6. To: christine, all (#0)
(Edited)
Several sources told CNN that McCain senior adviser Steve Schmidt told Palin no, in part because of built-up anger among some McCain aides who say Palin had become more interested in her own future than in McCain's election. Palin denies that claim
"There is no 'legitimate' Corporation by virtue of its very legal definition and purpose."
-- IndieTx
#7. To: IndieTX (#6)
#8. To: rowdee, All (#5)
Funny how we all hate the media, but yet get a real bug up our arses and eat up and spout out crap that just might or might seem to back up how we feel about something or someone.
#9. To: christine (#0)
#10. To: PSUSA (#8)
#11. To: bush_is_a_moonie (#9)
Palin is a hateful, sick, racist, power hungry whore! Nothing more.
#12. To: bush_is_a_moonie, jethro tull, all (#9)
Palin is a hateful, sick, racist, power hungry whore!
#13. To: bush_is_a_moonie (#9)
#14. To: Cynicom (#12)
#15. To: rowdee (#13)
#16. To: bush_is_a_moonie, all (#14)
You don't like the truth then too bad.
#17. To: Cynicom (#12)
#18. To: bush_is_a_moonie (#15)
#19. To: bush_is_a_moonie (#15)
she prompted racism
#20. To: Jethro Tull, all (#17)
I never gave Palin much thought, but given the level of hatred -
#21. To: Cynicom (#16)
#22. To: Cynicom (#20)
#23. To: Cynicom (#20)
#24. To: rowdee, jethro tull, christine, all (#18)
How sad........very sad.
#25. To: Jethro Tull (#22)
#26. To: Jethro Tull (#17)
#27. To: bush_is_a_moonie, jethro tull rowdee, all (#23)
#28. To: christine (#0)
#29. To: bush_is_a_moonie (#21)
#30. To: Cynicom (#27)
#31. To: Cynicom (#24)
If Palin would shuck the republican party and strike out on her own that would aim a dagger at the heart of the system. Thus this united and concerted effort to destroy her based on gender
#32. To: bush_is_a_moonie, all (#30)
I realize now that this board has become just like LP and Freepers. You are all afraid to stand up and fight for our country.
#33. To: Jethro Tull (#29)
#34. To: rowdee (#26)
her husband doesn't seem to have too many bad ideas if his belonging to the AIP is a hint.
#35. To: Jhoffa_ (#28)
What folks should remember about these jerks isn't the horrible campaign they ran, it's this after the fact smear campaign. The message is clear: Don't hire them... Ever. If you hire them and you lose, they'll knife you. Find someone else!
#36. To: rowdee (#31)
She may well have taken the change on getting her name on the national level at this time.
#37. To: Cynicom (#32)
#38. To: bush_is_a_moonie (#33)
#39. To: bush_is_a_moonie, all (#37)
You wouldnt' know what war is like would you coward.
#40. To: bush_is_a_moonie (#25)
#41. To: rowdee, jethro tull, bush_is_a_moonie (#26)
"I don't know where Bin Laden is. I truly am not that concerned about him"
George W, Bush, 3/13/02 http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2002/03/20020313-8.html
#42. To: bush_is_a_moonie (#37)
#43. To: rowdee (#35)
..its all predicated on finding out who all these 'anonymous sources' are...the cowards!
#44. To: bush_is_a_moonie, Cyni (#30)
(Edited)
#45. To: Jethro Tull (#34)
#46. To: Artisan (#41)
Palin's 2 speeches and debate performance are 3 of the only things i listened to in entirety during this whole show. from all I noted I conclude that it's wishful thinking to believe she is not a neocon.
#47. To: Lady X (#40)
#48. To: Cynicom (#36)
The very thot of Palin striking out on her own brings fear to the hearts of the good ole boy pubs that are jockeying for position.
#49. To: rowdee (#45)
#50. To: bush_is_a_moonie (#47)
I look at my children and grandchildren and wonder what they hell they are going to have to face as they grow up.
#51. To: rowdee (#44)
#52. To: Artisan (#41)
#53. To: rowdee (#52)
Where is your line in the sand?
#54. To: bush_is_a_moonie (#47)
Right now I am as angry as hell about it and if not speaking out against it means being politically correct, polite and friendly then I don't want to have anything to do with those things. Our country is being destroyed and it's about time we start shooting those who do are doing it.
#55. To: rowdee (#54)
#56. To: bush_is_a_moonie (#55)
All a person needs to do in America today is say the word terrorist and there are hundreds of thousands who go wacko at just the mention of it.
#57. To: bush_is_a_moonie (#51)
#58. To: All (#43)
#59. To: bush_is_a_moonie (#55)
(Edited)
All a person needs to do in America today is say the word terrorist and there are hundreds of thousands who go wacko at just the mention of it
#60. To: rowdee (#57)
#61. To: bush_is_a_moonie (#55)
America has become another potential 1930s Germany and it is self-destructing at a rapid pace because of it.
"There is no 'legitimate' Corporation by virtue of its very legal definition and purpose."
-- IndieTx
#62. To: bush_is_a_moonie (#60)
This anti-left propaganda started in the 80s and is part of the plan of the neocons to create a division between conservatives and liberals that they could take advantage of to promote their imperialistic world control agenda.
#63. To: bush_is_a_moonie (#60)
Today in America the left is not the threat... the neocon fake conservatives are the threat. Remember, neocons are not conservatives.
#64. To: rowdee (#62)
#65. To: IndieTX (#61)
#66. To: Jethro Tull, Robin (#46)
except in the case of ugly women who are jealous)
#67. To: bush_is_a_moonie (#64)
NEOCONSERVATIVES ARE FROM THE POLITICAL LEFT, GOT IT?
COLUMN: What the hell is a neocon?
University Wire
09-03-2003
(Michigan Daily) (U-WIRE) ANN ARBOR, Mich. -- Attila the Hun. Genghis Khan. Paul Wolfowitz.
Young freshmen, you as rising scholars are entering a stage in life when you begin to understand how the world works. But rather than let you wallow in four years of hard studying and personal misery to find the answer, I'll just tell you what causes problems like a dying economy, countries rotting in their own piss and bad things that happen to good people. It's all because of the neoconservatives.
Some people shy away from the neocon conspiracy theory because it is reminiscent of ancient anti-Semitic "Hymie rules the world" myths. For example, many of my fellow students (myself included) were offended when Hussein Ibish of the American-Arab Anti-Discrimination Committee called neocons "idealistic, crazy and chauvinistic Jewish-Americans," at a speaking engagement at the Michigan League last year.
But in that accusation lies a sad fact. They are hard-line ideologues whose personalities and foreign policy can be characterized as chauvinistic, and mazel tov, they're all Jewish. A quick note to the anti-Semites: This doesn't vindicate Jewish conspiracy theories, as most American Jews have remained Democrats.
A little background. Most neocons were all the same in their past lives as Trotskyites. This isn't surprising, as Trotskyism is similar to neoconservativism in that they are both anti-democratic and demand all-out, uncompromising war against their enemy (capitalists for the Trots, everyone who is not America or Israel for the neocons) and seeks to be the overarching, single ruling hegemony.
Furthermore, it's not uncommon for people to keep to the extremes. For example, the now-racist David Horowitz was thought to be na?ve by his friends for his enthusiastic support for the Black Panthers in his Marxist youth.
Most of them made the switch in the '60s, like Irving Kristol, when they found themselves supporting Israel when the left was rallying for the Palestinians. They also came from urbane, New York intellectual society, and were disgusted at what they perceived to be the filth that was sex, drugs and rock and roll that stood at the center of left-wing social life.
As Kristol in his trademark, elegantly pompous tone, said, "A neoconservative is a liberal who's been mugged by reality."
In short, nationalism got the best of them. Zionism started out as a left-wing movement, an anti-racist agenda that stood side by side with the civil rights movement. But along came a distrust among the Zionists. They felt no compromise could be made with the enemy. They shunned the leftist aspects of Zionism and traded "peace now" for "piece now" and salivated at the thought of armed conflict. Similar developments happened when violent, bigoted "white devil" attitudes emerged from Black Nationalism.
But what makes right-wing Zionists a problem for this country? A few of them, like Deputy Defense Secretary Paul Wolfowitz and Defense Policy Board member Richard Perle, hold high positions where they can dictate policy. Neocons care not about the domestic problems that plague our nation - abysmal public education and unemployment to name a few - but about funding Israel and sticking with the hawkish Likud Party and flexing military muscle against anyone that steps out of line with America.
Don't take my paranoid, left-wing word for it. Perle himself said, according to The Christian Science Monitor, "The President of the United States, on issue after issue, has reflected the thinking of neoconservatives." And just look at the numbers. There's never enough money for schools but there is always billions of dollars available for Israeli aid and whatever war Bush and the neocons want to fight. This nation doesn't suffer from a lack of money, it suffers from an unbalanced allocation of available funds. In fact, some estimate that the Bush administration is actually spending more money on the neocon agenda than Johnson did on his Great Society domestic policies.
This isn't to say that United States should stay away from brokering peace between Israel and the Palestinians. On the contrary, the United States should spend a reasonable amount of energy on ending war and securing ourselves from terrorist threats. But aiding the Israeli extremist position is unhelpful and damaging for the region, and turns a blind eye to more important domestic ills.
#68. To: Old Friend (#66)
#69. To: Old Friend (#66)
#70. To: Jethro Tull (#67)
by Daniel McCarthy
November 6, 2001
lewrockwell.com
#71. To: Dakmar (#70)
The Trotskyist pedigree of neoconservatism is no secret; the original neocon, Irving Kristol, acknowledges it with relish: "I regard myself to have been a young Trostkyite and I have not a single bitter memory." Nor is there any doubt about the influence – one might almost say hegemony – of "former Communists" on the post-war conservative movement. Just read the words of one neocon, Seymour Martin Lipset:
#72. To: bush_is_a_moonie (#64)
#73. To: bush_is_a_moonie, all (#65)
(Edited)
don't waste my time with conspiracy theories.
"There is no 'legitimate' Corporation by virtue of its very legal definition and purpose."
-- IndieTx
#74. To: Dakmar, Jhoffa_ (#3)
(Edited)
William Kristol: Palin's advice to McCain: Take the gloves off in debate
#75. To: Rupert_Pupkin (#74)
#76. To: bush_is_a_moonie (#23)
Hey little boy.. .I'll tell you how sick I am of scumbags supporting those who are destroying our country. I have had it with this crap. If you little sissys don't have the balls to stand up for this country and would rather be poltically correct then you can kiss my ass.
#77. To: Cynicom, All (#24)
Both sections of the system see Palin as a future threat. Why???
#78. To: bush_is_a_moonie, ferret mike (#25)
Phoenix AZ.... wanna give it a shot and find out boy? You and those like you are an embarassment to America and true Americans. You can't deal with the truth then tough shit.
#79. To: Cynicom (#27)
Your language tells us your true character, your limited intelligence, and your sad lack of mature intellectual thinking.
#80. To: Jethro Tull, biam (#29)
Hey tough guy, sit down and STFU. Big s**t you went to Nam. It's ancient history. Now what about the one National political party you so detest? Seems to me you hate only one wing. All your hate is directed at Palin, who is off the stage and in Alaska. She won't be affecting your life anytime soon, but the bastard you adore and his Zionist VP and cabinet sure as hell will. Stick that in the empty part of your head.
#81. To: bush_is_a_moonie (#51)
I'm tired of the gutting of our rights and liberties
Lord Acton
#82. To: James Deffenbach (#81)
(Edited)
#83. To: bush_is_a_moonie (#33)
Yes I am venting but it is because I can't stand you anti-American cowards.
#84. To: Jethro Tull (#34)
God bless his independence. I'd join a party like that in a heartbeat. Her too. She's now in my good guy column. With the relentless attacks on her by the loony left, she's worth a second look. Go Sarah. I LOVE women who can shoot a gun.
#85. To: Rotara (#82)
But the Ophiles seem to be at least mildly stunted in their mental capacity, and or not fully recovered from severe emotional or physical (head) trauma.
Lord Acton
#86. To: bush_is_a_moonie (#37)
I hope American's come to their senses and stop running and hiding. You wouldnt' know what war is like would you coward. What has happened to this country - cowards like you is what happened to it.
#87. To: James Deffenbach (#85)
Some of them--a fairly large number I'm sure--are young, idealistic, naive and gullible, easily swayed by peer pressure. But people who are over 25 or 30 years old and still vote for someone who refuses to produce the proof that he is even a citizen of this country are past help.
#88. To: Lady X, biam is a retard (#40)
Sweetpea, you need to calm down.
#89. To: Artisan (#41)
it's wishful thinking to believe she is not a neocon
#90. To: Jhoffa_ (#42)
You are painting with a pretty broad brush up there, but I'll give you this. You're half right.
#91. To: Jhoffa_ (#43)
Why finger Palin for being what she is?
#92. To: Jethro Tull (#46)
W/O the yoke of McCain and the R-party, for that matter, she might be capable of being a national 3rd party leader.
#93. To: Jhoffa_ (#75)
We really don't know what caused McCain to settle on her. She certainly was compatible on the Israel issue.
#94. To: Rotara (#89)
"I don't know where Bin Laden is. I truly am not that concerned about him"
George W, Bush, 3/13/02 http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2002/03/20020313-8.html
#95. To: All (#93)
#96. To: Jethro Tull, christine, All (#95)
(Edited)
#97. To: Cynicom (#96)
#98. To: Cynicom (#96)
"You only have power over people so long as you don't take everything away from them. But when you've robbed a man of everything he's no longer in your power -- he's free again. Alexander Solzhenitsyn
#99. To: Rhino369 (#93)
#100. To: Jhoffa_ (#99)
Instead, we're hearing all this crap about her wardrobe and on and on.. What about the guy who would wanted to potentially leave our nuclear arsenal in the hands of noob?
#101. To: Jethro Tull (#100)
#102. To: Ferret Mike (#98)
Palin can come back from this
#103. To: noone222 (#101)
#104. To: Jethro Tull (#100)
#105. To: Jhoffa_ (#104)
Still, I think if they keep this crap up all they're going to do is create a tidal wave of sympathy for this woman.
#106. To: Jethro Tull (#103)
#107. To: Artisan (#94)
#108. To: christine (#107)
there's nothing she has ever said to indicate otherwise.
#109. To: Jethro Tull, all (#100)
Instead, we're hearing all this crap about her wardrobe and on and on.
#110. To: noone222 (#106)
#111. To: Dakmar (#1)
She needs to fight back, wrap a bandage around her head and hire cymbal and flute backing band, march on anyone who thinks she's a joke.
#112. To: Cynicom (#109)
Palin never once fooled the intellectual giants that demean her gender.
#113. To: Cynicom (#96)
I hope we never hear from her again.
#114. To: Jethro Tull (#97)
McCain has another 10 years in the Senate. Byrd is 90, Inouye, 84, Stevens the same, I could go on. IMHO, Palin is unabashedly pro-life and this is at least part of the reason for the assault. This reminds me of the Clarance Thomas electronic lynching, much of that came from the feminist harpies.
#115. To: Jhoffa_ (#99)
Anyone who thinks she cost him the election should perhaps look at who chose her in the first place. That would be McCain.
#116. To: Rotara (#113)
Sarah Palin Is Pro Amnesty For Illegal Aliens - Univision Interview
#117. To: Cynicom (#116)
That is political and fair game.
#118. To: Cynicom (#116)
Example...If one delves into McKooKs closet, we would be able to label him a...whore master...But that did not happen as he is finished on the national scene.
#119. To: Cynicom (#116)
We either have a lot of homosexuals here that hate women, or people that are shoveling manure for the system. Maybe both.
#120. To: Rotara (#113)
#121. To: christine (#120)
now if she begins talking like a Ron Paul republican, i'll listen.
#122. To: Christine (#120)
i'm with you. it's her politics. now if she begins talking like a Ron Paul republican, i'll listen.
#123. To: Cynicom, Christine (#121)
The Huckabees, Romneys etc etc are not about to share party control with Palin nor any other outsider.
#124. To: Rotara (#123)
#125. To: Cynicom (#124)
#126. To: Rotara (#115)
There's no doubt mcTraitor would have lost by double digits without palin.
#127. To: Jhoffa_ (#126)
#128. To: Jhoffa_ (#126)
If anyone is to blame here it's McCain and Dubya.
#129. To: Rotara (#128)
#130. To: Jhoffa_ (#129)
The narrative says there will now be a "war" for the "heart" of the party.
#131. To: Jethro Tull, Cynicom, All (#95)
#132. To: Cynicom, All (#96)
Palin is 44 years old and struck a nerve that brought out the white trash, nobody Americans, that no one likes. Remember there are MILLIONS of Americans that belong to no party, no ideology, with allegiance to no one in this rotten system.
#133. To: rowdee (#131)
Beyond the sour grapes of jealous wimmen and queers,
#134. To: rowdee (#132)
And as I recall, she spoke favorably of Ron Paul
#135. To: rowdee, Jethro Tull (#131)
Beyond the sour grapes of jealous wimmen and queers, this is definitely an attempt to plant something in the background for history and in the minds of people........and as Cyni says, "Who".........others might say, "Why"
#136. To: Cynicom (#109)
"80,000,000 plus Americans that belong to NO ONE pose a danger to the system, if God forbid, someone were to walk on stage and say "follow me".
#137. To: rowdee, scrapper2, all (#131)
Well, I've got a big old question........how many women in the
world do you or any other man, or woman, for that matter, know that would be
considered a DIVA by anyones' standards that is as outdoorsy, shoot, gut, and
skin out a moose, or cut and clean fish type? How many divas does anyone know
that can pick up a gun, let alone shoot it as well as a man? How many women
does anyone know that has 5 kids who have all had puke and s**tty diapers that
think they're a diva?
#138. To: Cynicom (#133)
Good ole boys hate women.
#139. To: Rotara (#134)
#140. To: scrapper2 (#135)
She was a person of the people who connected with the people.
#141. To: Jethro Tull (#137)
#142. To: James Deffenbach (#81)
And yet you voted for Obama
#143. To: bush_is_a_moonie (#142)
Lord Acton
#144. To: christine (#107)
this is more of the keep the two party fraud alive. palin's a neocon. there's nothing she has ever said to indicate otherwise.
"I don't know where Bin Laden is. I truly am not that concerned about him"
George W, Bush, 3/13/02 http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2002/03/20020313-8.html
#145. To: James Deffenbach (#143)
singing his praises like someone with a sub moron IQ?
#146. To: bush_is_a_moonie (#145)
#147. To: bush_is_a_moonie (#145)
You mean why have I not bought into all the propaganda and been willing to be a victim of the politicians use of the "divide and conquer" tactics?
Lord Acton
#148. To: Jethro Tull (#146)
James asked you if you voted for Obama. Did you?
Lord Acton
#149. To: James Deffenbach, jethro tull (#148)
It would be hard to believe he didn't the way he is always singing his praises and posting whatever article he can find that speaks well of the Obamasiah.
#150. To: Cynicom (#149)
Some people follow any Pied Piper, moonie and his ilk follow their Piper because he is black.
Lord Acton
#151. To: James Deffenbach (#148)
#152. To: James Deffenbach (#148)
#153. To: bush_is_a_moonie (#151)
You want to be a conservative or a liberal then that's your business. I am neither.. I am an American.
#154. To: Jethro Tull (#153)
Prove it
#155. To: Cynicom (#154)
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