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Title: Christian Zionist's End Times: Election Reveals Cracks In Logic
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Published: Nov 8, 2008
Author: Charles Carlson
Post Date: 2008-11-08 14:50:21 by robnoel
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The 2008 election demonstrated the single mindedness of the Christian-Zionist voting block; this time in a losing effort. They were the biggest group of supporters for John McCain, who received over 62 million votes. The Pew Research Center estimated in advance that some 26 million “white evangelicals,” members of Judeo-Christian Churches (like the one to which Sarah Palin belongs to) would vote. They did! When the smoke cleared we are told about 73% of the "evangelicals/born again" voted for McCain and 26% for Obama. All other religious groups divided more evenly except Jews and Muslims. Surprisingly 78% of Jewish voters picked Obama; "other faiths" including Muslim, went 73% for Obama. Thus Christian Zionists voted 180 degrees from both the ethnic group they claim to love, and the one they love to fear. Most "Born Again Christians," as the Pew Exit Poll identifies them, qualify as Christian Zionists by We Hold These Truth’s test, but they would prefer to be called, evangelicals, dispensationlists, Judeo-Christians, or even "the Christian Right." Unfortunately, their unity of purpose is confused about, and is not centered on Jesus' words; Jesus has to defer to the needs and desires of Israel. Because they enthrone Israel, Judeo-Christians have an endemic capacity to be misled on political issues, including war. For instance they oppose abortion of unborn children, but never discuss or observe the violent killing of Arab children in a war zone, nor do they object to Israel's massive state sponsored abortion program. We have clearly explained their logic in a new DVD called The Roots of Christian Zionism. In spite of the “Obama landslide” it should not be forgotten that Christian Zionists are not going away but appear that both their numbers and their leadership are fraying and beginning to flake off. However, they remain the largest and most powerful single voting faction, and the most easily manipulated one. Obviously this was not a normal election, with the biggest percentage turnout since 1908 when people dearly cared about their vote, some paid to vote and some ride horses for miles to the polls. Many we know who are trying to follow Christ’s words for peace, were horrified by the war-committed McCain, but also did not trust Barack Obama to be free of the Neo-Conservative political influence. We think evangelicals want to be the first to share Jesus' values of loving your brother and not killing his children. They did until they were shaped by Oxford University's Scofield Reference Bible, and influence by world Zionist lobbies, such as AIPAC and Unity Coalition for Israel. They voted for McCain/Palin for religious reasons, as did 82% that voted for G. W. Bush four years ago. Judeo-Christians may have been the only group in America to take seriously the rumors that Obama is a Muslim. Churches organized pre-election prayer sessions fearfully asking God to deliver America from Obama; some referred to him as “anti-Christ." Now deceased Jerry Falwell’s Liberty University gave its 10,000 students election-day off to work the polls for McCain/Palin. Obviously, Jewish voters thought otherwise since nearly 80% of them voting, voted for Obama, according to the Pew Foundation’s exit poll. It seems 26 million Judeo-Christians are out of touch with the 2 million Jewish voters. Perhaps, the latter are not as anxious for Armageddon! World Zionism and its Neo-Con think-tanks have switched tactics of promoting fear of terrorism, as with Day911, to a new paradigm… fear and distrust of all Muslims, including the neighbor and his children. Christian Zionists are the most susceptible to this phobia, perhaps thinking McCain would protect them from the 1.5% or less, Muslim neighbors. Tough guy, anti-Arab talk has become acceptable among Judeo-Christians, as we have learned from our many contacts with them, and is epidemic on national network talk radio. Comments like “Nuke-em all” or “Turn it to Glass” or worse, are commonplace. Film editor Tom Compton quips that his fellow churchmen are “my bloodthirsty brothers in Christ. “ The new Obama Administration will be under huge pressure from those who financed it to make only a show of downsizing the Iraq War. Neo-Conservatives who wrote The Project for the New American Century, calling for war in Iraq, and international banking interests will pressure Obama to continue and even escalate warring sanctions and occupations of Islamic states. He has already opined that he favors staying in Afghanistan, and Iraq will likely be stretched out. Those Obama is considering for his key appointments seem to indicate the Jewish voters knew what they were doing when they voted for him, and Muslims may have been grasping at straws. Both these are small groups compared to the many millions of Christian Zionists who voted against Obama in fear. Christian Zionist leaders and neo-conservative think-tanks have spewed "islamophobia" on “conservative” talk radio, and internet sites that cater to born-again listeners. Some radio celebrities could be arrested for their inflammatory words, had hate crimes legislation not been repeatedly rejected by Congress. We are lost to the tragedy of our warring past made manifest. If you doubt that our past has caught up with us, look at the stock market…down about a trillion dollars in value the first two days after the Obama miracle. No matter what Obama’s intent, we must not forget that he is a politician. And whatever is inside him will be pressed hard to be sublimated to the Neo-Cons. A key was his choice of Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel, who is a Zionist to the core. The Judeo-Christians remain the only political faction driven directly by religious beliefs that war and the support of the state of Israel is right, that distrust, even hatred, of Israel’s perceived enemy Islam, is a necessity and prophetic. They ignore and refuse to discuss this question: Does killing of Arabs stand in the way of one's hope for Heaven? Well meaning Christian Zionists will change when they recognize that anti-Islam, or anti any race, excludes following Christ, and is murder. Laymen members need to walk out of Zionist churches in mass. Those who teach an anti-scriptural, false faith will then collapse of their own error. Americans can only then reclaim their heritage of a moral, Christian influenced government. We think this is already well in motion. The error of well-meaning members can be corrected with patience and logic by challenging the religious beliefs of Judeo Christians head on. The apostle Paul spoke of "reproving them" in his letter to the Ephesians. We must not do less. If we are to recover our influence over our own government we need help, and to whom shall we turn? The answer remains in the moral church-going millions. Mainline and orthodox churches are usually not Judeo-Christians and there are about 150,000 such traditional church congregations, but they have been asleep at the switch. With their renewed help we could empirically re-educate many of the 70 million influenced by Christian Zionism. Together, as we should be, we could actually influence what our government does. Strong evidence of “confrontation” is in the air from mainline churches (traditional Protestant and Catholic) and we will do what we can to encourage it. We have called this The Great Turning in the Age of Serial Wars. Let us look to a future where the swing vote is not from a group with apocalyptic dreams of yet another war to usher in mystic Armageddon. Come, be a part of it! Voting Religiously By Pew Research: pewresearch.org/pubs/1022/exit-poll-analysis-religion
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#1. To: robnoel (#0)
Good article and analysis - thanks.
This was a bit of an overestimate of McCain's vote total. Obama 53% 65,340,608 “I would give no thought of what the world might say of me, if I could only transmit to posterity the reputation of an honest man.” - Sam Houston
Seems to me that going to mainline protestant and catholic churches is to go for entities that don't seem to follow scripture, but in many instances, anywyas, they're content to let modern society dictate what the church is all about; or to follow much of the stuff that richard rails against. JMO...its trading off one bad for another bad.
I walked out of man's (c)hurch a long long time ago. Even as a child of 7 and 8, I refused to go there to the point of hiding under the bed. And if you think that was not a supernatural spirit in me...protecting me...I think you'd be dead wrong.
Law Enforcement Against Prohibition "Corporation: An entity created for the legal protection of its human parasites, whose sole purpose is profit and self-perpetuation." © IndieTx Not to be picky....I think he was using PEW numbers
Jefferson had the right idea about the teachings of Christ he made it simple to understand by not dealing with the the questionable parts which todays religious so called leaders are consumed with... Charles does nail this as to a previous post earlier today Must Read: Obama advisers discuss preparations for war on Iran http://freedom4um.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=90387 " The new Obama Administration will be under huge pressure from those who financed it to make only a show of downsizing the Iraq War. Neo-Conservatives who wrote The Project for the New American Century, calling for war in Iraq, and international banking interests will pressure Obama to continue and even escalate warring sanctions and occupations of Islamic states. He has already opined that he favors staying in Afghanistan, and Iraq will likely be stretched out"
I have no doubt we will be at war for the rest of our lives--whether it is Iraq, Afghanistan, Iran, or any other number of places around the world. War is a money maker for the elitists while the peons feed the cannons.
There is a reason we are jabbing the Bear and the Dragon in their own front yard.
A final parasitic lunge?
And they write innumerable books; being too vain and distracted for silence: seeking every one after his own elevation, and dodging his emptiness. - T. S. Eliot
Yes... I repeat this over and over and never get a response. This government is busy preparing for a major war. Anyone with a world map of proper size can see that we are encircling the China/Russia area with great military strength. Within that area there is about 4 billion people and once it is inflamed there will be no stopping it.
Then why are we financing them and shipping our manufacturing base abroad? Surely they aren't going to ship us the bullets to shoot them with?
~ Your failure to be informed, does not make me a wacko.
What would it take to get the average voter crazed enough to support aggressive warfare against Russia?
And they write innumerable books; being too vain and distracted for silence: seeking every one after his own elevation, and dodging his emptiness. - T. S. Eliot
Recall history as to who built Germany, Japan and Russia up militarily before WW1` and WW2.
Aggressive???? Just like Japan and Germany. You provoke until they ATTACK you.
But wouldn't the free press do their duty and inform their dear reader of leviathan's schemes and then send me a check for a billion dollars? Please answer yes or no. :)
And they write innumerable books; being too vain and distracted for silence: seeking every one after his own elevation, and dodging his emptiness. - T. S. Eliot
NO.
So you don't think I should get a check for a billion dollars for doing absolutely nothing? At least I didn't wreck anything, that makes me a financial genius by wall street standards. I'm probably worth more like two billion, I wouldn't know how to And they write innumerable books; being too vain and distracted for silence: seeking every one after his own elevation, and dodging his emptiness. - T. S. Eliot
Rest assured your government has great plans in store for you. WW2 required men thru age 65 be registered in case of need. You better hurry up and grow old, cause Obama most likely will NEED you to volunteer.
international jewish bankers?
Not me, but larger cuts of my wages and it sounds like D's having a little coven meetings to make my 401 their voodoo slave account hoobajoo.
And they write innumerable books; being too vain and distracted for silence: seeking every one after his own elevation, and dodging his emptiness. - T. S. Eliot
Indeed. Cant have a war if one side is too weak to fight. Recall how Germany was prostrate???
Yes, you. Volunteer to do your duty. Rahm and Obama both advocate "volunteer" service and you are a good candidate.
I'd be confined to psychiatric restraint after about 10 minutes if I wasn't beat to death for peacefully resisting.
And they write innumerable books; being too vain and distracted for silence: seeking every one after his own elevation, and dodging his emptiness. - T. S. Eliot
yes. succinctly stated.
If you ever read of the battle of Stalingrad, much is written about the struggle for a tractor factory. That factory was built by Henry Ford with Jewish bank financing.
Where's the margin in getting nuked?
~ Your failure to be informed, does not make me a wacko.
Nuked???? To my thinking and to many other people, with many countries having nukes, the struggle will begin as a land war, with mostly conventional arms. Man against man, ending in use of nukes by a potential loser.
They won't admit it, but a lot of Rapture Cultists actually hope for nuclear war. They're convinced that they're God's elect and will be raptured away to Heaven, and believe that nuclear war or some other catastrophe will speed up the inevitable. The Armageddon Lobby would be funny if it didn't have political clout.
You are correct, sir. Or ma'am, as the case may be. They are bloodthirsty and they have no problems attacking (by proxy, of course) innocent people to get what they want.
nutter bump
#2. To: robnoel (#0)
They were the biggest group of supporters for John McCain, who received over 62 million votes.
McCain 46% 57,358,053
#3. To: robnoel (#0)
#4. To: lodwick, jethro tull, christine, red panther (#1)
Laymen members need to walk out of Zionist churches in mass. Those who teach an anti-scriptural, false faith will then collapse of their own error. Americans can only then reclaim their heritage of a moral, Christian influenced government
"There is no 'legitimate' Corporation by virtue of its very legal definition and purpose."
-- IndieTx
#5. To: Sam Houston (#2)
#6. To: rowdee (#3)
#7. To: robnoel (#6)
#8. To: rowdee (#7)
I have no doubt we will be at war for the rest of our lives-
#9. To: Cynicom (#8)
There is a reason we are jabbing the Bear and the Dragon in their own front yard.
#10. To: Dakmar (#9)
A final parasitic lunge?
#11. To: Cynicom (#10)
This government is busy preparing for a major war. Anyone with a world map of proper size can see that we are encircling the China/Russia area with great military strength.
#12. To: Cynicom (#10)
#13. To: Jhoffa_ (#11)
A final parasitic lunge?
#14. To: Dakmar (#12)
What would it take to get the average voter crazed enough to support aggressive warfare against Russia?
#15. To: Cynicom (#14)
#16. To: Dakmar (#15)
#17. To: Cynicom (#16)
launder invest any more than that.
#18. To: Dakmar (#17)
#19. To: Cynicom (#13)
Recall history as to who built Germany, Japan and Russia up militarily before WW1` and WW2
#20. To: Cynicom (#18)
Obama most likely will NEED you to volunteer
#21. To: christine (#19)
international jewish bankers?
#22. To: Dakmar (#20)
Not me,
#23. To: Cynicom (#22)
#24. To: Cynicom (#21)
Cant have a war if one side is too weak to fight
#25. To: christine (#24)
yes. succinctly stated.
#26. To: Cynicom (#21)
Cant have a war if one side is too weak to fight.
#27. To: Jhoffa_ (#26)
#28. To: Jhoffa_ (#26)
Where's the margin in getting nuked?
#29. To: Rupert_Pupkin (#28)
They won't admit it, but a lot of Rapture Cultists actually hope for nuclear war
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