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Title: The Biological Puzzle of Jewish Behavior
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National Vanguard
URL Source: http://www.nationalvanguard.org/story.php?id=5526
Published: Jul 23, 2005
Author: Steven E. Romer
Post Date: 2005-07-23 06:32:46 by Zoroaster
Keywords: Biological, Behavior, Puzzle
Views: 1850
Comments: 192
The Biological Puzzle of Jewish Behavior Opinion; Posted on: 2005-07-22 22:26:25 [ Printer friendly / Instant flyer ] Is the conflict of conscious Whites with the Jewish power structure a reflection of something deeper, something happening at the genetic level: a competition between two very different and utterly incompatible behavior patterns? by Steven E. Romer IT TOOK MANY long years to fully dissect the relatively simple behaviors of the honey bee. Von Frisch was a pioneer in this -- showing that bees had a language all their own. At fist all Von Frisch noticed was the uncanny ability of bees to act in concert to find food sources. So he began to investigate why this was. He tried to find what principles were at work coordinating their behaviors. Different species have different behavior patterns. Chimpanzees have patterns markedly different from our own because they are different genetically (although the genetic difference is very tiny, at least in the characteristics we are so far capable of measuring). They cannot share our language, for example, or understand the concepts that guide our behaviors. Other races of humans quite obviously see the world differently than we do. Our tests show it, and the reality of behavioral statistics and real-world situations show this quite clearly. They have different behavior patterns as a result of tiny differences in genetics. Like the weather, research has shown that brain patterns are highly complex -- and sensitive to tiny changes in initial configuration. Our world view can change drastically as a result of the slightest tweaking of the biochemical machinery (as who have taken LSD would certainly attest). As with the bees, we can observe other human races as groups, study their languages, test their capacities, and look at their behavior patterns now and in an evolutionary sense. We have unlocked the behavioral patterns of much of the animal world in this way. With humans these patterns become much more complex and diverse than with bees. We require all our knowledge and intellectual energy to decipher these things -- and seeing the distinct but camouflaged behavior patterns of Jews is especially difficult. This is why it has often been an elite that has exiled the Jews from various countries of Europe at one time or another, or at least recognized their alien nature -- such as we see in the philosophical "anti-Semitism" of the pre-WWII period. Today, when we try to show others that the Jews control the media (or some other fact about them), many cannot see it because of Jewish conditioning -- and an inability to put together the pieces of the great puzzle of Jewish behavior and motives. Each piece of the puzzle we bring up may seem in itself small and petty to our listeners, certainly nothing to condemn an entire race. But like the blind men all trying to describe an elephant, there is one monolithic thing behind all the sketchy and diverse descriptions. When we see the Jewish elephant, we are staring directly into the face of the deceiver and destroyer often spoken of in our religions, standing right before us in the flesh. This is no supernatural bogeyman, but a very real result of the evolutionary processes surrounding us. Despite the danger it poses, this phenomenon is quite interesting to the scientific mind. Jewish behavior has one overriding theme. That theme is their control of others, and, insofar as they interact with us, the attendant destruction of everything higher we have ever stood for as a people. Our main theme as a people has been to take on the overall patterns of the creator of this world and reflect them as well as possible, as we strive toward a higher understanding. Our systems of justice based on truth, our sciences, and the deeply moving symbols in our arts have been the result of our unique and near-miraculous world view. The Jews have entered all the great avenues of the expression of the soul of our people (which is unequivocally the soul of the creator -- see my book The Textbook of the Universe). They have entered academia; they have entered the arts; they have entered our communications and entertainment industries; they have entered publishing; they have entered news reporting; they have entered our courts and our halls of justice; they have entered our government. They have the most powerful lobby in Washington in addition to their control of the mass media, so important to any major politician's election chances. All of these things work together as a great engine of destruction. We are surrounded. They enter and they begin to tear at the soul of our people, to remove the foundation of our culture and spit on the graves of all our ancestors who strove and gave their lives to build a cathedral of light and truth in the ideals of our civilization. The World Wars they caused did more than overtly destroy our earthly cathedrals built over so many generations, they destroyed what those cathedrals symbolized in the hearts and souls of our people. Those hearts and souls would soar so much higher if not for the stones the Jews have cast at us, breaking our wings and toppling the flying buttresses of our cultural and intellectual cathedrals. Theirs is a war against beauty and truth: They hate these things. It is our blind projection of our own shining motives onto them (an error which they deliberately cultivate in us) that is our undoing. Marx, Freud, Boas, Norman Lear, Newhouse, Redstone, and all the rest, have sent their minions to rend our souls and destroy the beautiful future we have repeatedly tried to build. They are like a great bully kicking over a beautiful, artistic sandcastle built by a dreamer. Life is the sandcastle of the creator, and we are the creator's dream. The blind justice of evolution gave great benefits to those creatures which followed truth. This occurred for a real and meaningful reason. This is what the Jews hate -- this is why they have come into every civilization we have ever tried to build, and attempt to destroy it. They dash it upon the stones and eat out the soft center where the pearl of God slowly gestates... It is a very very important time in history today. It doesn't feel like it, but then it never does... Today we must find our way -- more than at any other time in history. This is the final battle of the greatest good, truth, and justice against the relentless assault of darkness, confusion, fear and death. In the next few years we must decide once and for all if we love the life the creator has given us. We must decide whether we want eternity or death. In just a few decades, we will be overrun by those without the divine spark. A blanket of Hell will fall over the Earth, darker and more primitive than the hundreds of millions of years the dinosaurs kept our ancestors from emerging from the trees. Other behavioral patterns, vastly different from ours, can take over, especially now in the world of abundance -- and coddling of the inferior -- which we have created with our great gifts. Others now partake of what we have created, openly and freely, no matter what their motives or qualities of character or intellect. We invented television, and the Jews tore it from us and turned it into a weapon by which they deceive, manipulate, and destroy. They want darkness to blot out the light of our greatest minds -- for one simple reason. We are a threat to them. Wherever any significant community of Whites begins to see the world well enough to understand why we must not race-mix, the Jews know the jig is up for them. They know their pattern cannot work there. They know that we will see their dangerously camouflaged behavior pattern. They feel the classic 'fight or flight' response when they see truth, because they see the emerging head of their own final judgement in it. This is why their opposition to articles like this one, or to any free speech about them, is so fierce and unrelenting. Their opposition to the ideas of eugenics and race are similarly motivated. A vampire cannot brook the sunlight let in by the genes and minds of those who built Stonehenge, the great temples and cathedrals of our people, and the even greater temple of science. The Jewish anthropologist Boas destroyed physical anthropology by divorcing it from biology, and this worked well as part of their engine of destruction, along with their alien ideas of communism and egalitarianism. Our love of truth is not universal among all human beings. We must begin to see this. It is a strategy for surviving and becoming strong. The Jews know this, and know our truth is stronger than they. If it spreads and grows, so will we. It will be the end of their pattern. Our best minds managed to figure them out and send them packing from every single country of Europe (and Egypt too) at one time or another. This is the only serious threat to them. Everyone knows they hated Hitler; they never stop talking about it. But they also hated Henry Ford; they Hated Charles Lindbergh; they hate David Duke; and they especially hated William Pierce. And there are so many others they hate, ferociously. Truth, and those who bring it, must be destroyed, according to their inborn behavior pattern. We must see and understand the web of deceptions they have woven for us. These deceptions and inversions of reality were created for one purpose only: to eliminate our people forever from the Earth. The greatest deception -- and one which they spend a great deal of time inculcating in our people -- is their attempt to make us think that the people trying to save us are the bad guys, when it is really they who are the threat. It is amazing to me how they can divert the energy of our souls with such monstrously twisted lies. It never crosses our minds that someone might tell a lie so big and so diabolical -- we cannot imagine such lies precisely because we are not people of the lie.... They know their house of cards can fall very fast if people penetrate even one aspect of their illusions. This is why they are so frantic to quell opposition. There is hope in that. We can turn this around overnight. We must have faith and courage now more than ever. All the children of truth in the future, and all the ancestors who brought us out of darkness, are depending on what we do in our relatively short lives today. Mr. Romer is a behavioral neuroscientist and is the author of The Textbook of the Universe: The Genetic Ascent to God.
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#1. To: Zoroaster, christine (#0)
This is sick stuff. I rest my case (re: National Vanguard).
Check out my blog, America, the Bushieful.
The Symbolism Of The Beehive And The Bee A Talk given at the Mill Valley Masonic Lodge Allen Roberts comments: "We must assume that the Bee Hive became an important symbol in Freemasonry the way the other symbols entered it. It symbolized what the cathedral builders did na the way they did it. The bee definitely is industrious. He works hard and tirelessly, not for himself, but for the swarm. He has a strength and knowledge of materials that cannot be duplicated. He works in complete cooperation, and without dissention, with his fellow bees. He protects the Queen, refuses admittance to enemies, builds, makes honey, and lives in a society ruled by law. What bees do can be compared with the cathedral builders of centuries ago. … Undoubtedly, the operative masons saw their duplicate in the bees." (The Craft and Its Symbols, A.E. Roberts, p. 74) Babylonian Talmud: Tractate Baba Kamma, Folio 114b It was taught:46 R. Ishmael the son of R. Johanan b. Beroka said: It is a stipulation of the Court of Law that the owner of the bees be entitled to come down into his neighbour's field and cut off his bough [upon which his bees have settled], in order to rescue his swarm of bees, while the owner of the bough will be paid the value of his bough out of the other's swarm; It is [similarly] a stipulation of the Court of Law that the owner of the wine pour out the wine [from the flask] in order to save in it the other man's honey,47 and that he can recover the value of his wine out of the other's honey.47 It is [again] a stipulation of the Court of Law that [the owner of the wood] should remove his wood [from his ass] and load on it the other man's flax [from the ass that fell dead], and that he can recover the value of his wood out of the other's flax; for it was upon this condition that Joshua divided the Land among the Israelites.46
Like bad money driving out good, if 4um allows this sort of bigoted, twisted anti-Jew stuff to proliferate, the sickos will come and the good people will leave. An observation ... and a forecast, for what they are worth.
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We resent the use of the term "sicko" We would prefer to be known as "Wellness Challenged" Thank you. This post sponsored by the "National Association of General Purpose Dickheads and Wellness Challenged Individuals previously known as Sickos."
"Working Three Jobs is: Uniquely American, isn't it? I mean, that is fantastic... Get any sleep?" (Laughs) ~ George W Bush
I know of several posters who are drifting/drifted away for this very reason.
(The Gospel of Jesus Christ is the only true good news)
Phaedrus may have a point here. I recall that Phaedrus showed up about the same time the Jewish stuff started appearing on the board. Just coincidence?
I am opposed to sicko stuff without reference to policy or prior condition.
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You're not part of the "we", you have this "fairness streak" to deal with ... ;-}
Second the motion ...
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I'm not well-informed enough to have a position but I am open-minded. I am quite sure that the sicko stuff should go.
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I'm not here to answer your questions or pass any sort of test you may conceive. If that's not satisfactory, then I'm a candidate for your Bozo list.
You and Fahey have a lot in common. Give it another shot. By the way, have you met TLBSHOW over on FU? There may be some common ground there as well.
I thought we had agreed not to post to each other.
Phaedrus, have you even considered changing your screen name to something with "Todd" in it?
Link? I don't believe I ever said anything of the sort.
I just want to toss my two cents in here withthe others.. Whenever there's a debate about censoring political points of view, you'll usually find me in there somewhere.. and this is no exception. If someone has a legitimate political point of view or statement, and they express it in a responsible way, I fail to see why they should not be welcome. You know, I've had to page past literally tons of Anti-Christian (Even some on this website) "anti" this and "anti" that stuff during my time on the internet.. I'm sure you have also. and you know exactly what I mean.. The only time I think it's just unacceptable is when it's intentionally posted as a taunt.. You know, Trolling. Two line vanities and button pushing BS is one thing, a reasoned argument between adults is another. People who start crying for censorship often are simply incapable of responding in any meaningful way. Knowing this, they just lobby you to pull the plug on the entire topic and try to kill it off that way. It's easier. I guess I believe posters who are putting forth a good faith effort shouldn't be censored for their subject mater. Ya know, there's allot of things I see posted here every day that I think is just trash. I just think it's stupid.. but it's offered in good faith and rather than start us down the slippery slope, I just scroll on by and find something that interests me. It's not difficult and I don't see why others here can't reasonably be expected to do the same thing. Bret ran into this same situation at FU once and chose speech. IMO, the forum was better for it. There were problems later, but that particular decision was a good one, imo. Contrast this to Goldi's actions on LP over this very same issue. She took the opposite stance. Her arbitrary censoring is largely what populated FU to begin with. IMVHO.
"Working Three Jobs is: Uniquely American, isn't it? I mean, that is fantastic... Get any sleep?" (Laughs) ~ George W Bush
With their history of persecution, for whatever reasons and however exaggerated, it is not surprising that Jewish cultural survival mechanisms have become aggressive. Good luck trying to get Christian Zionists to criticize Israel and agree to 'cutting them off.' No matter how agressive Jewish groups are in the US and no matter how much they harm the avg American, they stand by in silence. They only get vocal when defending the Jews- implying that Chris and Zip should censor the forum in some way to protect Jews.
I make every effort to be objective. I'm simply too disillusioned to be a knee jerker anymore.
"Working Three Jobs is: Uniquely American, isn't it? I mean, that is fantastic... Get any sleep?" (Laughs) ~ George W Bush
OK, I will respond this once but then you're on your own. As I've mentioned before, I have immense difficulty taking anyone seriously who would adopt the screen name "crack monkey". Call it a personal foible ...
Excellent plan on any forum. The bandwidth saved is amazing.
Well, I have a confession to make as well. I took the name specifically to annoy you. Glad to see it works.
I don't think I fall into that class but others would obviously disagree. Part of my problem is that I'm too old to give much of a damn what others think. I'm not the least bit moved by ego, posturing, sophistry or authority (there are no authorities). Call me antisocial ... ;-}
That's really not your concern, is it? Yesterday you basically said you were pro Jew, when taken as a group. Today, you want to censor articles that analyze and critique Jews. You think that not siding with Israel against the Palis 100% means one favors the Palis 100%. IOW, you should be the last one taken seriously when calling for censorship regarding articles critical of Jews. I'm not defending the article, but I will defend free speech. There is no reason why Jews, as a group, should have special rights and power at 4um, to the point where the owners here will censor content for the group's benefit. I resent your attempt to deny my rights on this forum.
I dunno.. This issue drives me nuts. Rather than discuss it, like we would Islam, Arabs, Bombing Mecca, abortion, or any other divisive thing, we invariably end up with three camps.. 1) The Censors 2) The Non-Censors 3) The indifferent. What makes it REALLY absurd, is the absolute refusal of some to utilize the Bozo list. This tool was conceived, designed and implemented just so people don't have to deal with this sort of thing. I have exaactly one (1) person on my Bozo list.. Not for Political points of view, but because I got tired of their self promotion. I didn't want to read them anymore, so I added them.. Bingo. Problem solved. What's so damn hard about that?
"Working Three Jobs is: Uniquely American, isn't it? I mean, that is fantastic... Get any sleep?" (Laughs) ~ George W Bush
I agree, and this forum has a bozo filter. However, how you think Bret chose speech on FU is beyond me. Besides banning people for no good reason (then bashing them afterwards, when they could not respond), he or his son altered Arator's links to a Nazi organization. Furthermore there is good evidence that PMs were being read. And, a personal photo of christine's, only being stored on that server was copied to CP. He did and I was proud of him for it.. Everything you mention came later.
"Working Three Jobs is: Uniquely American, isn't it? I mean, that is fantastic... Get any sleep?" (Laughs) ~ George W Bush
Phaedrus is just frustrated. He's knows what we should be thinking, believing and saying, but we're not cooperating. If the actors would just obey the director, the world would be perfect.
That is a great way to put it. For the last 2 days, that is all I have seen.
So it seems in many cases. It amazes me what we can talk about.. "Nuking" - Nuclear Genocide - is acceptable. An artile on the USS Liberty is not. We can talk about ripping unborn children apart with a vacuum tube.. Don't mention a moving van on 9/11, though. It's insulting to the reader.
"Working Three Jobs is: Uniquely American, isn't it? I mean, that is fantastic... Get any sleep?" (Laughs) ~ George W Bush
That's not the way I see it. This is a forum. The 4up people will hear from me when I feel they should. Bozo me if you don't like what I say.
Now I understand your comment, and that was true at one point. FU also serves as an object lesson in how a good forum can lose its credibility. Let's hope it doesn't happen here, just because some posters are easily offended. Exactly why is it your concern??
Yes, I'm talking about the beginning. I won't defend some of the other stuff that took place there.
"Working Three Jobs is: Uniquely American, isn't it? I mean, that is fantastic... Get any sleep?" (Laughs) ~ George W Bush
Two comments: 1) free speech cuts 2 ways: don't expect to be applauded for every twisted, stupid thing you (generally, not personally) say, and 2) there is speech and there is action. Of these latter two, action is by far more important. Anyone can jabber.
Why is my concern your concern? Fair?
Some Republicans now believe in selective PC, cultural Marxism. It's bizarre. Conservatives were always against such forms of totalitarianism and supported the rights of the individual- they did not assign rights to groups the govt has deemed special. The Rep party totally backed off of its criticism of PC some years ago, and as a result, many Reps were condition to believe in at least some degree of PC- they also accept Marxism on other levels, being completely unable to even identify it for what it is. And they still call themselves Conservatives. As an example, Reps now support multiculturalism and diversity fully and openly. I guess that's understandable, since the definition of Conservatives was smeared by the neocons, and then remade in their own image. They are, after all, Marxist at heart.
And you will hear from us when we think you should - no matter how much you squeal, whine, tap dance, squirm and complain. See your post above where you - incorrectly - insinuated that we had agreed not to post to each other.
Because you want to employ censorship. If you don't like what someone posts use the bozo filter.
It is our concern because you are trying to ram through a policy regarding what content can be posted on the forum ..... numbnuts. You jolly well know this too. You're just playing silly word games here.
You beat me to it.
Notice he ducks my question. Pathetic..
You're correct, of course.. I think at some point it was decided to stop arguing about "silly" things like the size and scope of government, etc, and for the sake of political expediency just move on to (ahem) important matters, like endless wars, open borders and CAFTA. After all, we've got to have our priorites, Rome wasn't built in a day, we don't want gridlock.. blah, blah, whatever, whatever.
"Working Three Jobs is: Uniquely American, isn't it? I mean, that is fantastic... Get any sleep?" (Laughs) ~ George W Bush
Pathetic.. Watch him bob and weave. He'll duck your question for ten posts and then accuse you of playing word games.
Read my initial post again. You challenge me, it comes right back at you and you don't like it. I'm not sympathetic.
How bout this for a hypothetical situation. If he can 'talk' to the forum admins about the content posted here, then why can't I 'talk' to the same admins about him getting banned???? See how that works??
Are you in favor of the new hate crime legislation that the Jewish lobby is trying to push thru Congress?
You dodged the question.. Color me surprised..not.
Ironically, I welcome his counterpoint here.. It's too bad he doesn't feel the same way about other posters and their material.
"Working Three Jobs is: Uniquely American, isn't it? I mean, that is fantastic... Get any sleep?" (Laughs) ~ George W Bush
Garbage should be recognized as such and tossed. If that means censorship, so be it. Verbal hygiene is a value, too. Or all "values" equal? I think this culture is very, very confused.
I welcome counterpoint also, but censorship is not counterpoint..
Color me surprised..not. Have you been granted some special commission that allows you to pose questions that I must answer? Show me your badge.
Just say NO to Marxism.
There are articles on 4 that I dont agree with in any way shape or form just as there are on any other forum. Now because I dont agree with them does that mean I should censor them? My personal biases should not be reflected in what is posted or by whom. REAL free speech is about the exchange of ideas even when those ideas make us uncomfortable in some way. It makes us think, we can reject, ignore or dismiss those ideas which we disagree with. If you disagree, then state so and why. If we begin to censor (other than posts with threats, advocating violence, or posts with personal information) then where does it start and where more importantly does it stop? Who then determines which subject matter is off limits? Posters need to either ignore, bozo, or hash it out within threads if they disagree. If there are threads with those issues that DO need to be removed by all means please let us know for there are times we dont see every comment on every thread.
"...when a society believes in nothing, fear becomes the only agenda..."
In our culture? To a degree, I feel the same way. For example, there's no need to subjugate the majority to satisfy the whims of a few deviants. I think you're right. However, this is discussion.. It's more akin to brainstorming than social engineering or writing policy. We’re going to (ostensibly) do that later, at the polls and via our (LOL!) Elected Representatives. Therefore, this is the beginning.. The start of that process. As such, how can you make an informed decision with only one side of the argument?
"Working Three Jobs is: Uniquely American, isn't it? I mean, that is fantastic... Get any sleep?" (Laughs) ~ George W Bush
And may we all assume that you are the only one here who is qualified to decide what is garbage and what is not? In other words, if we would all just let you tell us what to think, believe and do, the play would be perfect. Ever heard of control issues? You wouldn't be an alcoholic would you?
Bravo..
"Working Three Jobs is: Uniquely American, isn't it? I mean, that is fantastic... Get any sleep?" (Laughs) ~ George W Bush
It's really obvious that you are dodging the question. Just like she says. Just like I said above where I predicted that you would dodge the question for ten posts and then accuse her of playing word games. I count five posts to this point. You have five to go to fit your MO. You are very transparent.
I have two useful "tools" you can use to "filter content": 1) Use the bozo filter - if you need help in doing so, ask someone and everyone here would be kindly enough to assist you. 2) If you find a thread title "offensive" - S-C-R-O-L-L PAST IT! You are not obligated to read everything that is posted on here. Yours Truly, Cappy the Helpful
"Guard with jealous attention the public liberty. Suspect everyone who approaches that jewel. Unfortunately, nothing will preserve it but downright force. Whenever you give up that force you are ruined... The great object is that every man be armed... Everyone who is able may have a gun." -- Patrick Henry
I see no reason to censor or
disallow articles like Zoroaster posted above. Everyone here is free to argue,
debate, criticize, and challenge the content. I'm not going to decide for
others what they find offensive or disagreeable. As you all know, we have a
bozo filter and each person can also decide to read or not read anything that
is posted on this forum. Obviously, we won't allow threats of violence. The
above article in no way does this. It's an individual's opinion.
Bravo2
"Working Three Jobs is: Uniquely American, isn't it? I mean, that is fantastic... Get any sleep?" (Laughs) ~ George W Bush
You said it better than I. Thanks.
Same thoughts.. great minds! LOL
"...when a society believes in nothing, fear becomes the only agenda..."
Who ever heard of a "Helpful" Pirate? That's stupid.. you should be banned.
"Working Three Jobs is: Uniquely American, isn't it? I mean, that is fantastic... Get any sleep?" (Laughs) ~ George W Bush
There are seldom, if ever, two sides of equal merit to any question. This culture implies that there are. "Free speech" as a transcendent value is way oversold and it may go so far as to allow any fooish, twisted thing to be said without criticism. We're there IMO.
Oh, nonsense, crack. I aim to be no one's guru or dictator. That's more your schtick.
True.. at least in my opinion. After all, if both sides had exactly equal merit, how would you ever decide? You'd likely opt for some type of synthesis. While the scientific method isn't a necessity in politics, objectively speaking.. you will need at least a passing familiarity with the opposition before you can define them as such.
"Working Three Jobs is: Uniquely American, isn't it? I mean, that is fantastic... Get any sleep?" (Laughs) ~ George W Bush
Are all opinions equal? Is there truth? Or are these unfair questions?
Should dual-agent U.S. officials working for Israel should be held to the same standards as was Jonathan Pollard? Should Tel Aviv should fend for itself against its enemies? Okay, now that you've blown off answering anything substantial, answer these questions please. If you aren't informed enough to answer these questions, then you really aren't informed enough to call people names, or spell out someone's agenda. So pretty please, with sugar on top, answer these three questions.
#2. To: Zoroaster, BTP Holdings, Bayonne, 1776, robin (#0)
At fist all Von Frisch noticed was the uncanny ability of bees to act in concert to find food sources. So he began to investigate why this was. He tried to find what principles were at work coordinating their behaviors.
“Under this roof are the heads of the family of Rothschild, a name famous in every capital of Europe, and every division of the globe." -Benjamin Disraeli
#3. To: Arator, christine (#1)
This is sick stuff.
#4. To: Phaedrus (#3)
"The tree of Liberty must from time to time be refreshed by the blood of patriots and Tyrants. It is its natural manure." -- Thomas Jefferson
#5. To: Phaedrus (#3)
the sickos will come and..
#6. To: Phaedrus, Christine (#3)
Like bad money driving out good, if 4um allows this sort of bigoted, twisted anti-Jew stuff to proliferate, the sickos will come and the good people will leave. An observation ... and a forecast, for what they are worth.
#7. To: Jhoffa_ (#5)
... the sickos will come
#8. To: toddbrendanfahey (#4)
As long as we can agree--as Arator has and does--, that U.S. foreign aid to Israel should be cut off immediately; that dual-agent U.S. officials working for Israel should be held to the same standards as was Jonathan Pollard, and that Tel Aviv should fend for itself against its enemies...
#9. To: crack monkey (#7)
"The tree of Liberty must from time to time be refreshed by the blood of patriots and Tyrants. It is its natural manure." -- Thomas Jefferson
#10. To: Phaedrus (#8)
"The tree of Liberty must from time to time be refreshed by the blood of patriots and Tyrants. It is its natural manure." -- Thomas Jefferson
#11. To: Jhoffa_ (#5)
We resent the use of the term "sicko"
#12. To: toddbrendanfahey (#9)
Use your bozo-list if you don't want to see my stuff.
#13. To: Phaedrus (#12)
"The tree of Liberty must from time to time be refreshed by the blood of patriots and Tyrants. It is its natural manure." -- Thomas Jefferson
#14. To: toddbrendanfahey (#10)
Three simple questions.
#15. To: Phaedrus (#14)
"The tree of Liberty must from time to time be refreshed by the blood of patriots and Tyrants. It is its natural manure." -- Thomas Jefferson
#16. To: toddbrendanfahey (#15)
You're ducking the questions.
#17. To: Phaedrus (#16)
I'm not here to answer your questions or pass any sort of test you may conceive. If that's not satisfactory, then I'm a candidate for your Bozo list.
#18. To: crack monkey (#17)
#19. To: Phaedrus (#16)
#20. To: Phaedrus (#18)
I thought we had agreed not to post to each other.
#21. To: Christine, Zipporah, Neil McIver, Jethro Tull (#5)
#22. To: Eoghan (#2)
Still, there is no good reason why anyone should be forced to like a culture they are not apart of and do not understand.
However when America's foreign policy and the Pentagon take on the form of a praetorian guard for the Likudniks, politically correct or not, we need to speak up.
One if by land, two if by sea...how many if they are already here?
#23. To: toddbrendanfahey (#10)
#24. To: Phaedrus (#11)
You're not part of the "we", you have this "fairness streak" to deal with ... ;-}
#25. To: crack monkey (#19)
Phaedrus, have you even considered changing your screen name to something with "Todd" in it?
#26. To: Jhoffa_ (#21)
Ya know, there's allot of things I see posted here every day that I think is just trash. I just think it's stupid.. but it's offered in good faith and rather than start us down the slippery slope, I just scroll on by and find something that interests me.
#27. To: Phaedrus (#25)
I have immense difficulty taking anyone seriously who would adopt the screen name "crack monkey". Call it a personal foible ...
#28. To: Jhoffa_ (#24)
I'm simply too disillusioned to be a knee jerker anymore.
#29. To: Phaedrus (#14)
I am quite sure that the sicko stuff should go.
#30. To: crack monkey, Christine, Zipporah, Neil McIver, Jethro Tull (#7)
Phaedrus may have a point here. I recall that Phaedrus showed up about the same time the Jewish stuff started appearing on the board. Just coincidence?
#31. To: Jhoffa_ (#21)
I just scroll on by and find something that interests me.
That's all been discussed on other threads, but I could not let that comment stand here, as it was.
One if by land, two if by sea...how many if they are already here?
#32. To: robin (#31)
However, how you think Bret chose speech on FU is beyond me.
#33. To: Jhoffa_ (#30)
#34. To: crack monkey (#33)
#35. To: crack monkey (#33)
If the actors would just obey the director, the world would be perfect.
#36. To: Bayonne (#29)
That's really not your concern, is it?
#37. To: Jhoffa_ (#32)
Everything you mention came later.
If someone doesn't like what is being posted, they should give compelling evidence to the contrary. Failing that, use the bozo filter.
One if by land, two if by sea...how many if they are already here?
#38. To: Phaedrus (#36)
#39. To: robin (#37)
Now I understand your comment, and that was true at one point. FU also serves as an object lesson in how a good forum can lose its credibility.
#40. To: Bayonne (#29)
... but I will defend free speech.
#41. To: Lady X (#38)
Exactly why is it your concern??
#42. To: Jhoffa_ (#35)
#43. To: Phaedrus (#36)
The 4up people will hear from me when I feel they should.
#44. To: Phaedrus (#41)
Why is my concern your concern?
#45. To: Phaedrus (#41)
Why is my concern your concern?
#46. To: Lady X (#44)
Why is my concern your concern? Because you want to employ censorship.
#47. To: crack monkey (#46)
#48. To: Bayonne (#42)
#49. To: Lady X (#47)
Notice he ducks my question.
#50. To: Lady X (#47)
Pathetic..
#51. To: crack monkey (#49)
#52. To: Phaedrus (#50)
#53. To: Phaedrus (#50)
#54. To: Lady X (#51)
#55. To: Lady X (#44)
#56. To: Jhoffa_ (#54)
#57. To: Lady X (#53)
You dodged the question..
#58. To: Phaedrus (#55)
#59. To: ALL (#0)
#60. To: Phaedrus (#55)
Garbage should be recognized as such and tossed. If that means censorship, so be it. Verbal hygiene is a value, too. Or all "values" equal? I think this culture is very, very confused.
#61. To: Phaedrus (#55)
Garbage should be recognized as such and tossed.
#62. To: Zipporah (#59)
#63. To: Phaedrus (#57)
Have you been granted some special commission that allows you to pose questions that I must answer? Show me your badge.
#64. To: Phaedrus (#55)
#65. To: ALL (#51)
#66. To: christine (#65)
#67. To: Zipporah (#59)
#68. To: christine (#67)
#69. To: CAPPSMADNESS (#64)
Cappy the Helpful
#70. To: Jhoffa_ (#60)
As such, how can you make an informed decision with only one side of the argument?
#71. To: crack monkey (#61)
In other words, if we would all just let you tell us what to think, believe and do, the play would be perfect.
#72. To: Phaedrus (#70)
There are seldom, if ever, two sides of equal merit to any question.
#73. To: christine (#65)
It's an individual's opinion.
#74. To: Phaedrus, *You Gotta Be Shitting Me* (#71)
Should U.S. foreign aid to Israel should be cut off immediately?
 | So many morons, so few bullets. |
#75. To: Phaedrus (#73)
have you been reading Animal Farm? Do you identify with Snowball?
Are all opinions equal? Is there truth? Or are these unfair questions?
"...when a society believes in nothing, fear becomes the only agenda..."
#76. To: Phaedrus (#71)
If you don't like the shadow you cast on the community, go back and read your posts and see what you can do to change it. I note that I'm not the only one who sees this in you. If you re-read the thread, note that others say the same thing. A person who sets out to regulate content is setting himself up to be a guru or dictator. Regulating content is precisely what you tried to do on this thread.
Oh, nonsense, crack. I aim to be no one's guru or dictator.
#77. To: Jhoffa_ (#72)
I am very disturbed at the level of our agreement, given that such threads as these are supposed to be about spitting, scratching and name-calling, and allowing every damn-fool thing to be said that any idiot savant can dream of. Now I've just got to smile after saying this -- it's that twisted sense of irony I bring to these threads and I should be banned outright.
#78. To: Phaedrus (#73)
How can we arrive at truth when we are not allowed to test for it?
Are all opinions equal? Is there truth?
"Working Three Jobs is: Uniquely American, isn't it? I mean, that is fantastic... Get any sleep?" (Laughs) ~ George W Bush
#79. To: Phaedrus (#77)
So some "idiot savants" are more equal?
.........allowing every damn-fool thing to be said that any idiot savant can dream of.
"...when a society believes in nothing, fear becomes the only agenda..."
#80. To: Zipporah (#75)
Ah, Zipporah, you have committed the Cardinal Sin of not responding to my question, answering my question with a question, and you should therefore also be banned outright.
have you been reading Animal Farm? Do you identify with Snowball?
#81. To: Phaedrus (#77)
Dickhead.. (Your turn)
I am very disturbed at the level of our agreement, given that such threads as these are supposed to be about spitting, scratching and name-calling..
"Working Three Jobs is: Uniquely American, isn't it? I mean, that is fantastic... Get any sleep?" (Laughs) ~ George W Bush
#82. To: TommyTheMadArtist (#74)
I am not doing Q & A with you, Tommy.
#83. To: Phaedrus (#77)
I see you've chosen to ignore answering 3 simple questions. You are insubstantial. You are cannot debate your point, nor can you stand for what you believe in. You can't answer three simple questions. You are what is known as a provocateur.
| So many morons, so few bullets. |
#84. To: Phaedrus, christine (#82)
You're right, you're not. You're a shill, and a provocateur.
| So many morons, so few bullets. |
#85. To: Jhoffa_ (#81)
You will have to take a ticket and stand in line, there are others ahead of you who want to call me names AND I have been verbally abused by much finer abusers than yourself. Are you listening, crack?
Your turn
#86. To: TommyTheMadArtist (#83)
So you say. Next subject.
You are what is known as a provocateur.
#87. To: Phaedrus (#80)
Interesting that you say that.. as just yesterday you refused to answer a question that I posed to you. You seem to want to make these broad stroke statements and when anyone asks you a question you run away or avoid or say that the question was unfair. Now I ask .. Which Animal Farm animal do you identify with?
"...when a society believes in nothing, fear becomes the only agenda..."
#88. To: Phaedrus (#70)
You haven't criticized the content of this article yet. You criticize the idea of it.
"Free speech" as a transcendent value is way oversold and it may go so far as to allow any fooish, twisted thing to be said without criticism.
#89. To: Phaedrus, christine (#86)
So, you can't answer 3 very simple questions, but you can debate who here, is and isn't some so called Anti-Semite, or can debate that this site is becoming a hate site? Christine, this is what I'm talking about.
| So many morons, so few bullets. |
#90. To: Zipporah (#79)
I say we have lost the capacity or the courage to call garbage what it is. Zen and the Art ... makes it clear that we all inherently understand excellence.
So some "idiot savants" are more equal?
#91. To: Zipporah (#87)
I will answer whatever questions I choose to. You may be assured that I will not answer silly questions.
Which Animal Farm animal do you identify with?
#92. To: robin, Eoghan, Zoroaster, All (#22)
May I remind everyone that "extremism in defense of Liberty is no vice."
"But what is Hope? Nothing but the paint on the face of Existence; the least touch of truth rubs it off, and then we see what a hollow-cheeked harlot we have got hold of." Lord Byron
#93. To: TommyTheMadArtist (#89)
It's called the "Phaedrus Rules". Phaedrus can come in and collectively insult everyone on this site. He can demand sweeping changes on how the site is run. He can pose pointed questions to anyone on the site at anytime and demand answers. If someone poses a question to Phaedrus however, Phaedrus is allowed to beat a cowardly retreat. He may either hide behind the bozo filter or he may hide behind a simple refusal to answer - depending on what is needed to preserve his silly self perceived dignity. You see, Phaedrus has compared himself to everyone here and decided that he alone is special. Hence, the special treatment. Some would say Phaedrus has some growing up to do. Phaedrus responds that he is a legend in his own mind.
So, you can't answer 3 very simple questions ...
#94. To: Phaedrus (#90)
Have you perchance read my reply to ALL on this thread? If that is your opinion ..fine so be it..if that in fact is your opinion. No one here wants to censor you and your opinions but what it seems those here do take issue with is you or anyone else wanting to censor others because you see what they have to say as "garbage".
I say we have lost the capacity or the courage to call garbage what it is. Zen and the Art ... makes it clear that we all inherently understand excellence.
"...when a society believes in nothing, fear becomes the only agenda..."
#95. To: Phaedrus (#91)
Interesting.. so then using this line of thinking then I should dismiss yours?
will answer whatever questions I choose to. You may be assured that I will not answer silly questions.
"...when a society believes in nothing, fear becomes the only agenda..."
#96. To: Phaedrus (#91)
And you, of course, in your infinite wisdom, will decide what is silly and what is not. Do people laugh at you this way in real life?
You may be assured that I will not answer silly questions.
#97. To: all (#88)
This free speech thing is a
bitch, isn't it? I could name a half dozen positions the NV takes that we'd all
agree with. Because they hold other positions that aren't popular, or to your
liking, does that invalidate them as a source? If yes, that's pure BS. Why not
move past a topic or article you don't agree with. To simply slap it down
because of the source, rather than its content, isn’t what we’re about. I
still remember the censorship of Dr. Shockley, the Nobel prize winner. That was
political correctness at its zenith. You won't find censorship or PC here.
Thank god.
You haven't criticized the content of this article yet. You
criticize the idea of it.
#98. To: TommyTheMadArtist (#89)
Subtle or blatent, Anti-Semitism is erroneous, sick and destructive, and should not be protected as free speech. The article appears to me to be Anti- Semitic. If I'm wrong about this, then it remains to be shown. Jews are not a race, they are an ethnic minority, a high-intelligence, high-achieving ethnic minority, and they have contributed greatly to Western Civilization. They are not perfect but who on earth is?
So, you can't answer 3 very simple questions, but you can debate who here, is and isn't some so called Anti-Semite, or can debate that this site is becoming a hate site?
#99. To: Phaedrus, christine (#98)
You didn't answer the three questions. Answer them, or continue proving my point.
| So many morons, so few bullets. |
#100. To: Phaedrus (#98)
I'm sure you include Arabs in this group known as 'Semites', don't you?
Subtle or blatent, Anti-Semitism is erroneous, sick and destructive, and should not be protected as free speech.
#101. To: crack monkey (#93)
LOL ... you crack me up, crack.
Phaedrus can come in and collectively insult everyone on this site.
#102. To: Phaedrus (#98)
Your statement is totally contradictory..
Jews are not a race, they are an ethnic minority, a high-intelligence, high-achieving ethnic minority...
"...when a society believes in nothing, fear becomes the only agenda..."
#103. To: Phaedrus (#73)
I don't believe that all opinions are equal, but I believe everyone has the right to have them. I believe there is truth and I believe each individual should have the freedom to seek and decide for himself what he believes that to be. This forum can be and is a venue for that.
Are all opinions equal? Is there truth? Or are these unfair questions?
#104. To: Lady X (#100)
My words speak for themselves, LadyX. I won't be baited.
I'm sure you include Arabs in this group known as 'Semites', don't you?
#105. To: TommyTheMadArtist (#99)
Whatever makes you happy.
Answer them, or continue proving my point.
#106. To: Phaedrus (#101)
Dodge and spin. Your MO precisely. I called you on that one.
LOL ... you crack me up, crack.
#107. To: Lady X (#104)
What he will do is simply dodge questions that he cannot answer. It's his MO.
My words speak for themselves, LadyX. I won't be baited.
#108. To: Phaedrus, crack monkey (#104)
Another question dodged.. You are unbelievable. You need to quit now, you are going down in flames.
#109. To: Phaedrus (#105)
People have you pegged as a loudmouthed, cowardly bullshitter who dodges questions by either refusing to answer or hiding behind the bozo filter. When you act like a cowardly bullshitter who didges questions by either refusing to answer or by hiding behind the bozo filter - as you just did above - you reinforce this ugly image. Can't you see this?
Whatever makes you happy.
#110. To: Lady X (#108)
You are unbelievable. You need to quit now, you are going down in flames. I count nine questions dodged. I predicted 10 before he accuses you of playing word games. That's his final dodge. If you pursue him past this point he'll go personal and hide behind the bozo filter.
Another question dodged..
#111. To: christine (#103)
A fair, no a good, response to tough questions. It is not enough, IMO, to not decide. One must make a judgement as to what is fair, and right and true (we do this whether or not we talk about it) and align with it. Would you agree? If Anti-Semitism can be shown to be twisted and destructive (is there any doubt?), should it be given voice?
I don't believe that all opinions are equal, but I believe everyone has the right to have them. I believe there is truth and I believe each individual should have the freedom to seek and decide for himself what he believes that to be. This forum can be and is a venue for that.
#112. To: crack monkey (#106)
You certainly did.
I called you on that one.
#113. To: crack monkey (#110)
Okay then, I have one more question for him... By the way, he should be ashamed of himself!
If you pursue him past this point he'll go personal and hide behind the bozo filter.
#114. To: Phaedrus (#111)
SHOWN BY WHOM?????
If Anti-Semitism can be shown to be twisted and destructive (is there any doubt?), should it be given voice?
#115. To: Lady X (#108)
You are unbelievable. Thank you. You need to quit now, you are going down in flames. I don't think so.
#116. To: Lady X (#114)
Hitler.
SHOWN BY WHOM?????
#117. To: Phaedrus (#104)
Let me help you here. If you can't make a rational and coherent argument, or if you are unable to respond to intelligent and foreseeable questions regarding your comments, or if you are unable to defend your position - as appears to be the case here - then you probably don't belong on a forum such as this one. You would probably be better off pontificating to you kids and your dog. They won't pose questions back to you.
My words speak for themselves ...
#118. To: crack monkey (#109)
Name-calling. Sooner or later it had to happen.
#119. To: Phaedrus, Lady X (#115)
I don't think so. Maybe Phaedrus set out to make himself look like a cowardly boob. If this is the case, Phaedrus has been wildly successful. Don't be so quick to judge.
You need to quit now, you are going down in flames.
#120. To: Phaedrus (#116)
He's dead! Stop being obtuse.
Hitler.
#121. To: Phaedrus (#118)
If I remember correctly it was you that first used the term "idiot savants"..
Name-calling. Sooner or later it had to happen.
"...when a society believes in nothing, fear becomes the only agenda..."
#122. To: Phaedrus (#118)
Dodge, twist and squirm. We sure have you pegged don't we?
Name-calling. Sooner or later it had to happen.
#123. To: crack monkey (#119)
I think he set out to make himself look like a tyrant and dictator..
Maybe Phaedrus set out to make himself look like a cowardly boob. If this is the case, Phaedrus has been wildly successful. Don't be so quick to judge.
#124. To: Zipporah (#121)
No, Zipporah, I have not attacked anyone personally here by calling them names.
If I remember correctly it was you that first used the term "idiot savants"..
#125. To: Lady X (#120)
Nonsense, LadyX. You asked, I answered. Chew on it and address it, if you can.
Stop being obtuse.
#126. To: Zipporah (#121)
Phaedrus doesn't give a damn about that. If he did, he himself wouldn't hide behind the bozo filter while insulting other people. Recall that Phaedrus is the only person on this site to employ this tactic. Phaedrus has been asked some tough questions that he can't answer without looking like an idiot. Phaedrus is trying to change the subject in order to squirm out of the box he has put himself into.
Name-calling. Sooner or later it had to happen. If I remember correctly it was you that first used the term "idiot savants"..
#127. To: Lady X (#123)
It's impolite to talk about me in the third person, LadyX.
I think he set out to make himself look like a tyrant and dictator..
#128. To: Lady X (#120)
I think I understand it now. Since Adolph Hitler was a bad, bad man.. it naturally follows that we can't post & discuss news articles on Christine's forum?
"Working Three Jobs is: Uniquely American, isn't it? I mean, that is fantastic... Get any sleep?" (Laughs) ~ George W Bush
#129. To: All (#125)
Your first response should be: "Words are not actions." To which I will respond: "But do inflammatory words lead to actions?"
Chew on it and address it, if you can.
#130. To: Phaedrus (#127)
I think we all know that. We are just giving you the consideration and respect that you have earned for yourself.
It's impolite to talk about me in the third person, LadyX.
#131. To: Phaedrus (#111)
Pro semitism is the Jews putting their group interest ahead of all other groups in our society. Antisemitism is when people in those other groups put their group interest ahead of the Jewish group interest. Antisemitism is also speech Jews do not like. Anti anti semitism is Marxism.
If Anti-Semitism can be shown to be twisted and destructive (is there any doubt?), should it be given voice?
#132. To: Phaedrus (#129)
Hopefully. After all, that's why we're here. To educate ourselves and take the proper course of action later in the polling place and to educate our friends and convince them to act accordingly. This standard would deny us the right (The Constitutionally Protected Right, BTW) to discuss political issues and later, to act on them. Perhaps we should stop criticizing Government, as it could inflame the populace and lead to riots?
To which I will respond: "But do inflammatory words lead to actions?"
"Working Three Jobs is: Uniquely American, isn't it? I mean, that is fantastic... Get any sleep?" (Laughs) ~ George W Bush
#133. To: Phaedrus (#124)
Au contraire.. as in fact you did.. of course you were quite careful not to point the finger at ONE person..but rather to generalize.. to paint name on many.
"...when a society believes in nothing, fear becomes the only agenda..."
#134. To: crack monkey, Phaedrus, Jhoffa (#130)
Okay, does all this mean that we have to check with him before we post anything??
#135. To: Jhoffa_, phaedrus (#132)
I asked phaedrus if he supports the thought crime legislation now in Congress that is being pushed by Jewish groups. He did not answer. I assume, by looking at his pattern on this thread, that this lack of response means he supports it. A Conservative who supports thought crime legislation.
#136. To: Lady X (#134)
I don't know, but that's certainly the way it sounds. It would appear that merely discussing these things is dangerous because the subject matter is considered to be inflamatory and could result in some course of action being taken, somewhere, by someone.. at some point in the future.
Okay, does all this mean that we have to check with him before we post anything??
"Working Three Jobs is: Uniquely American, isn't it? I mean, that is fantastic... Get any sleep?" (Laughs) ~ George W Bush
#137. To: christine (#111)
Are you beginning to see that a "let it all hang out" attitude as to what is permitted and what is not, "free speech", can be a righteous copout? But I didn't say it was easy. It's not.
#138. To: Bayonne (#135)
In fairness, I don't knwo that he ever claimed to be a Conservative. Actually, I'm a bit fuzzy on what that means nowdays anyway.
"Working Three Jobs is: Uniquely American, isn't it? I mean, that is fantastic... Get any sleep?" (Laughs) ~ George W Bush
#139. To: Zipporah (#133)
So one is the same as many? Come on, Zipporah. Personal attack means personal attack.
Au contraire.. as in fact you did.. of course you were quite careful not to point the finger at ONE person..but rather to generalize.. to paint name on many.
#140. To: Phaedrus (#137)
As can arbitrary censoring for the "common good"
Are you beginning to see that a "let it all hang out" attitude as to what is permitted and what is not, "free speech", can be a righteous copout?
"Working Three Jobs is: Uniquely American, isn't it? I mean, that is fantastic... Get any sleep?" (Laughs) ~ George W Bush
#141. To: Lady X (#134)
I think Phaedrus would appreciate that.
Okay, does all this mean that we have to check with him before we post anything??
#142. To: Phaedrus (#129)
Hmm since you brought up Hitler.. So as in Germany, books
were burned..words destroyed.. where does it end?
To which I will respond: "But do inflammatory words lead to
actions?"
Goebbels and his
cronies watch with glee as the books are burned.
"...when a society believes in nothing, fear becomes the only agenda..."
#143. To: Phaedrus, Christine (#137)
I think what Phaedrus is saying here is that he would like to review everything before it goes up. He is, after all, the only one qualified to decide what is "good" content and what is "bad" content.
Are you beginning to see that a "let it all hang out" attitude as to what is permitted and what is not, "free speech", can be a righteous copout?
#144. To: Phaedrus (#139)
You said name calling.. and now youre back peddling .. just as you are accusing some here of doing.. you are doing the same..
So one is the same as many? Come on, Zipporah. Personal attack means personal attack.
"...when a society believes in nothing, fear becomes the only agenda..."
#145. To: crack monkey (#143)
Correct. I think the First Amendment should be scrapped and media likewise censored.. After all, their inflammatory rhetoric could, conceivably lead to someone, somewhere taking some kind of action at some point in the future. Surely this kind of anarchy cannot be what the founders intended.
I think what Phaedrus is saying here is that he would like to review everything before it goes up. He is, after all, the only one qualified to decide what is "good" content and what is "bad" content.
"Working Three Jobs is: Uniquely American, isn't it? I mean, that is fantastic... Get any sleep?" (Laughs) ~ George W Bush
#146. To: crack monkey (#143)
We are 143 posts into this thread and phaedrus has not even laid out his argument on why this article is hate speech. In fact, he has not even made a single comment about it. How screwed up is that? He is simply against the 'idea' of the article.
#147. To: Bayonne (#146)
If Phaedrus wants a site where content is tightly controlled he can have it. He just needs to log onto FR. Maybe somebody should give him the URL.
#148. To: Phaedrus (#137)
"Liberty is meaningless where the right to utter one’s thoughts and opinions has ceased to exist. That, of all rights, is the dread of tyrants. It is the right which they first of all strike down. They know its power. Thrones, dominions, principalities, and powers, founded in injustice and wrong, are sure to tremble, if men are allowed to reason… There can be no right of speech where any man…[is] compelled to suppress his honest sentiments. Equally clear is the right to hear. To suppress free speech is a double wrong. It violates the rights of the hearer as well as those of the speaker." ~~Frederick Douglas
I'll take that "righteous copout" in the same vane as Frederick Douglas below.
#149. To: Bayonne, Eoghan, crack monkey (#146)
As far as a genetic grouping as opposed to say a religion, I proffered this information.
The Holocaust Historiography Project
#150. To: Phaedrus (#139)
Phaedrus, you recall when Lady X pointed out that you were going down in flames? You remember how you said that wasn't true? Could you please explain how you're scoring points with us right now?
#151. To: Jhoffa_, All (#136)
There has been outrageous criticism of many other groups on this forum: Puritans, Prudes, Sluts, Rapture monkeys, Baptists, Confederates, Yankees, WASPS, Nazis, Blacks, Latinos, Illegals, Immigrants, Asians, Mafiosos, Most Lawyers, Rock Stars, Catholic Priests, Homosexuals, City Dwellers, Rural Idiots, Other Forums, Many Internet Posters, Pious Perverts (earned its own category), Pederasts and Pedaphiles, various political groups, crooks, traitors and all political leaders. Special notice has been given to any intersecting groups. We've offended everyone. Now is it fair to single out one group to be silent about?
One if by land, two if by sea...how many if they are already here?
#152. To: Phaedrus, tommythemadartist, toddbrendanfahey, crack monkey, arator, christine, diana, 1776 (#90)
So call it garbage then, and say why you think it is if you feel like it, I really don't think anyone here would object in the least. Have at it man, call it whale poop if you like. Let the article stand on it's own merit, or lack of it, in the very least it demonstrates what sorts of ideas are out there. I thought the article was boneheaded. I sure don't think it should be censored. And I do not see whay you do, other than to set a chilling precdence to disallow discussion of a topic that, in my view, very much needs some sunlight shined upon it. After all I am working many days of my short life to support Israel and the Lukid party, and the consequences of their war in Iraq. Your desire to censor this article instead of pointing out the many errors in it will color my view of you from here on.
So some "idiot savants" are more equal? I say we have lost the capacity or the courage to call garbage what it is. Zen and the Art ... makes it clear that we all inherently understand excellence.
#153. To: christine (#148)
As we speak they are working to silence Americans just as they have done in Canada and Europe.
The Holocaust Historiography Project
#154. To: robin (#151)
Phaedrus thinks so. But he won't explain why.
Now is it fair to single out one group to be silent about?
#155. To: robin (#151)
Very good point and question.
We've offended everyone. Now is it fair to single out one group to be silent about?
#156. To: 1776 (#153)
gosh this is a popular thread. The bible says in revelation 2:9 and 3:9 that in the end times there will be many who call themselves jews but will in reality be with satan. So, what else is new? It is happening. Let's not be surprised. the one who made the world come into existence by merely speaking words, the one who will defeat the enemy with the sword that comes out of his mouth, this one, the god of jacob, abraham & moses, this god, has said that the era will end when he makes his kingdom here on earth and separates the people into those who believe and those who do not, this god has spoken and told us how history will unfold. So, we have no reason to fret. wars & rumours of war are here, but we should not be too upset over these things. Read the bible instead. I don't discourage investigation and discussion into these issues. I encourage it and participate myself. I only say we have no reason to be upset or even worried. Phaedrus is an idiot. We can all see that.
#157. To: Zoroaster (#0)
cool! I work for channel six. Ya think I might be able to get some overtime outta that blanket?
A blanket of Hell will fall over the Earth, darker and more primitive than the hundreds of millions of years the dinosaurs kept our ancestors from emerging from the trees.
"that meatball?" "Meatball with gravy, Val!"
#158. To: Phaedrus (#137)
You have alot of nerve coming on this site and telling one of the owners what she should and should not "see" - exactly what mental ward are you posting from or which forum owner sent you? You have yet to actually debate your argument. Try using logic instead of FEELINGS, you actually might make a point (but I doubt it).
To: christine Are you beginning to see that a "let it all hang out" attitude as to what is permitted and what is not, "free speech", can be a righteous copout? But I didn't say it was easy. It's not.
"Guard with jealous attention the public liberty. Suspect everyone who approaches that jewel. Unfortunately, nothing will preserve it but downright force. Whenever you give up that force you are ruined... The great object is that every man be armed... Everyone who is able may have a gun." -- Patrick Henry
#159. To: CAPPSMADNESS, Phaedrus (#158)
LOL, you tell him, Cappy. I don't care if Phaedrus thinks this article is pure nazi bullshit, and had he(/she?) said something to that effect we'd be talking about something else right now, but Phaedrus can't just let it go, and rather than admitting that everything is subjective, chose to frame it as "for the good of the forum" or some such nonsense. Phaedrus, if I ever have children I would hire you as their nanny in a heartbeat.
You have yet to actually debate your argument. Try using logic instead of FEELINGS, you actually might make a point
We should thank the Nazis for giving us all those stark, frightening images. How else we gonna learn not to act like that? On the other hand, monkey see...
#160. To: Dakmar (#159)
I don't care if the article IS pure Nazi Bullshit - this is a F-R-E-E S-P-E-E- C-H site. He has proven himself to be nothing more than a whining child by showing up here and attempting to play thread nanny. There are many threads posted on 4 that I do not agree with. IT IS NOT A BIG DEAL to NOT READ THEM. He can either debate his position or STFU, because until he can put down his pacifier and act like an intelligent, reasoned adult - he isn't worth the effort. Let him cry in his milk over what his poor virgin eyes have seen here - too fricking bad.
I don't care if Phaedrus thinks this article is pure nazi bullshit, and had he(/she?) said something to that effect we'd be talking about something else right now,
"Guard with jealous attention the public liberty. Suspect everyone who approaches that jewel. Unfortunately, nothing will preserve it but downright force. Whenever you give up that force you are ruined... The great object is that every man be armed... Everyone who is able may have a gun." -- Patrick Henry
#161. To: CAPPSMADNESS, Mr Nuke Buzzcut (#160)
Just don't wear a coat in summer ;)
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#162. To: 1776 (#161)
Have you been following me today?????
"Guard with jealous attention the public liberty. Suspect everyone who approaches that jewel. Unfortunately, nothing will preserve it but downright force. Whenever you give up that force you are ruined... The great object is that every man be armed... Everyone who is able may have a gun." -- Patrick Henry
#163. To: CAPPSMADNESS (#160)
Bingo. Stupid ideas get shouted down by angry packs of leprechauns or something.
There are many threads posted on 4 that I do not agree with. IT IS NOT A BIG DEAL to NOT READ THEM.
We should thank the Nazis for giving us all those stark, frightening images. How else we gonna learn not to act like that? On the other hand, monkey see...
#164. To: Dakmar (#163)
If everyone would just quit going after the magical Lucky Charms, everything would be hunky-dory!
Stupid ideas get shouted down by angry packs of leprechauns or something.
"Guard with jealous attention the public liberty. Suspect everyone who approaches that jewel. Unfortunately, nothing will preserve it but downright force. Whenever you give up that force you are ruined... The great object is that every man be armed... Everyone who is able may have a gun." -- Patrick Henry
#165. To: CAPPSMADNESS (#164)
The rumour surrounding the fabulous wealth of any individual leprechaun is an urban myth, you'd never even notice most of them if not for the bright green suits. The sad truth is, many leprechauns are subject to cruel Scotsmen, and forced to work in the mines....
We should thank the Nazis for giving us all those stark, frightening images. How else we gonna learn not to act like that? On the other hand, monkey see...
#166. To: Dakmar (#165)
The Scots ain't that cruel - they at least let us...er... the leprechauns drink good whiskey!
"Guard with jealous attention the public liberty. Suspect everyone who approaches that jewel. Unfortunately, nothing will preserve it but downright force. Whenever you give up that force you are ruined... The great object is that every man be armed... Everyone who is able may have a gun." -- Patrick Henry
#167. To: CAPPSMADNESS (#166)
"The mark of a basic shit is that he has to be right." - William S Burroughs
We should thank the Nazis for giving us all those stark, frightening images. How else we gonna learn not to act like that? On the other hand, monkey see...
#168. To: 1776, CAPPSMADNESS (#161)
While out for my run this morning it was about 75 degrees and I noticed quite a number of people out and about at the bus stops with coats on. One feller even had a plaid wool jacket on. I thought about taking him out in the name of Homeland Security, but I'm just not patriotic enough I guess.
Just don't wear a coat in summer ;)
- "Let me ask you this: A guy breaks into your house, but you don't have a gun. How are you going to shoot him?" ~~Dale Gribble
#169. To: Mr Nuke Buzzcut (#168)
That was too funny!While out for my run this morning it was about 75 degrees and I noticed quite a number of people out and about at the bus stops with coats on. One feller even had a plaid wool jacket on. I thought about taking him out in the name of Homeland Security, but I'm just not patriotic enough I guess.
They hate us for our freedom, so does congress.
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#170. To: Mr Nuke Buzzcut (#168)
LOL!
I thought about taking him out in the name of Homeland Security, but I'm just not patriotic enough I guess.
One if by land, two if by sea...how many if they are already here?
#171. To: Mr Nuke Buzzcut, BTP Holdings, Flintlock (#168)
Last summer I decided to drive up to Chicago and get a hotel room downtown, which I did. As I was walking along upper Wacker some fat middle aged guy hollered at me, asking if he could get an automobile down to lower level. I told him I was tourist and would have told a cop about it had I seen one within like 15 minutes. After that they just think you're jabbering.
We should thank the Nazis for giving us all those stark, frightening images. How else we gonna learn not to act like that? On the other hand, monkey see...
#172. To: Mr Nuke Buzzcut (#168)
TRAITOR!!!! ;0)
I thought about taking him out in the name of Homeland Security, but I'm just not patriotic enough I guess.
"Guard with jealous attention the public liberty. Suspect everyone who approaches that jewel. Unfortunately, nothing will preserve it but downright force. Whenever you give up that force you are ruined... The great object is that every man be armed... Everyone who is able may have a gun." -- Patrick Henry
#173. To: Zoroaster (#0)
One place where the person who wrote this article and other Neo Nazi types are wrong is that "Jews" are not a single race but comprise FOUR racial groups mainly bound ONLY by the RELIGION of Judaism. The first are is the Edomite Khazars who probably gave us the King Herod of Slaugther of the Innocents fame before their ultimate migration to Russia. This group is the most responsible for the behavior of "Jews" that creates "Anti Semitism". The second is the White Russian "Khazars" who were force converted. The third are the Black Falashas of Euritreya and Ethiopia. These are believed to have received their religion from the meeting between King Solomon and the Queen of Sheba. The fourth are the Semitic Sephardim. This group is probably the closest in "race" to the people who gave birth to Yashua Messiah (Jesus Christ) living today.
Elapidae, Micrurus fulvius 
#174. To: crack monkey, Zipporah, christine, Gengis Gandhi (#93)
Phaedrus can come in and collectively insult everyone on this site. He can demand sweeping changes on how the site is run. He can pose pointed questions to anyone on the site at anytime and demand answers. That's because he/she/it thinks we are all sub-human garbage. When people are brought up with supremecist beliefs, it warps their minds and their behavior towards those not like them.
It's called the "Phaedrus Rules".
#175. To: Bayonne (#146)
That is simply because anti-semitism is a sick, twisted idea. BTW, so is Zionism, but that cannot be mentioned. ;^)
He is simply against the 'idea' of the article.
"But what is Hope? Nothing but the paint on the face of Existence; the least touch of truth rubs it off, and then we see what a hollow-cheeked harlot we have got hold of." Lord Byron
#176. To: CAPPSMADNESS (#158)
Did you happen to see this?
"But what is Hope? Nothing but the paint on the face of Existence; the least touch of truth rubs it off, and then we see what a hollow-cheeked harlot we have got hold of." Lord Byron
#177. To: CAPPSMADNESS (#164)
I want a box.
If everyone would just quit going after the magical Lucky Charms
The future is so bright I got to wear shades.
#178. To: BTP Holdings (#176)
Good stuff. The only use for this flunky is to let our inner child come out and type after a long week of gloom and doom.
Did you happen to see this?
The future is so bright I got to wear shades.
#179. To: Zoroaster (#0)
First of all I'm not so sure this is true. Second of all, "Jews" of today are not a race, they are a religion. A religion that denies that Jesus Christ is the Son of God, which makes them anti-Christian, just like every other non-Christian religion. They are extremely hypocritical crying anti-Semitism all day long, while they are openly anti-Christian.
Other races of humans quite obviously see the world differently than we do.
God is always good!
#180. To: RickyJ (#179)
I concur. I know a jewish guy at work who says openly he doesn't believe in god or the bible. and then he complains every year about the christmas party and makes sure everyone knows that as a jew he can't celebrate christmas. He just does it to needle christians and complain.
They are extremely hypocritical crying anti-Semitism all day long, while they are openly anti-Christian.
#181. To: robin (#31)
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"The tree of Liberty must from time to time be refreshed by the blood of patriots and Tyrants. It is its natural manure." -- Thomas Jefferson
#182. To: Diana, Phaedrus (#174)
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"The tree of Liberty must from time to time be refreshed by the blood of patriots and Tyrants. It is its natural manure." -- Thomas Jefferson
#183. To: toddbrendanfahey, Diana, Phaedrus (#182)
Seems you are a "self hateing Celt"!
As virtually 100% Irish, by ancestry, you never see me whining about "aid to Ireland" or h
#184. To: tom007 (#183)
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"The tree of Liberty must from time to time be refreshed by the blood of patriots and Tyrants. It is its natural manure." -- Thomas Jefferson
#185. To: RickyJ (#179)
No kidding.. Remember Gibson's film and all the stink it caused? They were screaming about a new holocaust and everything else.
They are extremely hypocritical crying anti-Semitism all day long, while they are openly anti-Christian.
"Working Three Jobs is: Uniquely American, isn't it? I mean, that is fantastic... Get any sleep?" (Laughs) ~ George W Bush
#186. To: toddbrendanfahey (#182)
You bring up a good point. The contributions of the Irish to America are w/o question. What have we done for Ireland? Also, after peeking at BTP's LP link above, I noticed that Phaedrus has never complained about the downright violence being offered to one group over on LP. Some of those posts are really vile. Yet, they seem to have escaped any criticism from Phaedrus. And, Goldi allows it to stand. Can you imagine her doing so if the same exact expression was directed toward Jews?
As virtually 100% Irish, by ancestry, you never see me whining about "aid to Ireland" or how the Irish are "the chosen."
One if by land, two if by sea...how many if they are already here?
#187. To: robin (#186)
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"The tree of Liberty must from time to time be refreshed by the blood of patriots and Tyrants. It is its natural manure." -- Thomas Jefferson
#188. To: robin (#186)
For Jewish supremacists justice--fairness, decency, or ethics, if you will-- is being allowed to do whatever they like. Injustice is whatever prevents them doing so. Your right, if challenged, the Jewish supremacists can get quite vile. They are quick to resort to epithets (racist, subversive, pervert, hate monger, nut, crackpot, degenerate, un-American, anti-semite, red, commie, nazi, kook, fink, liar, bigot, and so on) to label and condemn opponents in order to divert attention from their arguments and to discourage others from hearing them out. These epithets don't have to be proved to be effective; the mere fact that they have been said is often enough.
Also, after peeking at BTP's LP link above, I noticed that Phaedrus has never complained about the downright violence being offered to one group over on LP. Some of those posts are really vile. Yet, they seem to have escaped any criticism from Phaedrus. And, Goldi allows it to stand. Can you imagine her doing so if the same exact expression was directed toward Jews?
Life is a tragedy to those who feel, and a comedy to those who think.
#189. To: Zoroaster (#188)
It's worse than name calling. Even outside of LP, Michael Savage and Paul Harvey calling to nuke Mecca. Can you imagine what would happen if a radio talk show host said "nuke Jerusalem"?
One if by land, two if by sea...how many if they are already here?
#190. To: Zoroaster, christine, 1776, Coral Snake (#188)
Wow. Someone called my attention to this thread and I just scanned through it. From what I can tell, only three to four posts offered comments on the substance and merits of the article. Destroy, discredit, distract, deflect: hallmarks of the Zionist style of argument.
Dr. Condoleezza Rice said that the “security of Israel is the key to security of the world.”
#191. To: wbales (#190)
Did you count your own post among the deflectors?
From what I can tell, only three to four posts offered comments on the substance and merits of the article.
Check out my blog, America, the Bushieful.
#192. To: wbales, christine, 1776, Coral Snake (#190)
Wbales and I were both slandered at the now defunct NewsMax Forum by these tactics, which come straight out of the Frankfurt School of Political Correctness. It would be a shame if this forum became a home for zionazis and suckpoop goys. Compromise only weakens.
Destroy, discredit, distract, deflect: hallmarks of the Zionist style of argument.
Life is a tragedy to those who feel, and a comedy to those who think.
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