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Title: Where have all the O'piles gone ????
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Published: Nov 12, 2008
Author: uh huh
Post Date: 2008-11-12 19:09:49 by Rotara
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#15. To: Rotara (#0)

this is a disgusting thread!!!!!!!!! Shame on you.


I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies. If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around [the banks] will deprive the people of all property until their children wake-up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered. The issuing power should be taken from the banks and restored to the people, to whom it properly belongs. —Thomas Jefferson, 1802

farmfriend  posted on  2008-11-12   20:20:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: farmfriend (#15)

I agree.

Robin is nice, just leans left on allot of things. Just a fundamental difference in opinion there. She's not malicious about it at all.. A nice lady.

What's wrong with AVRWC?

Pherret is simply a alternative lifestyle, left wing nut job. He can actually be fun to debate with when he's not threatening to kick everyone's ass and reminding you that he's ex special forces or MI6 or whatever he was before the aids ate his brain.

~ Your failure to be informed, does not make me a wacko.

Jhoffa_  posted on  2008-11-12   20:26:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: farmfriend (#15)

this is a disgusting thread!!!!!!!!! Shame on you.

Thank you dear.

Now grab me an utter beah. ;-)

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2008-11-12   20:27:56 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Jhoffa_, All (#16)

I agree.

Robin is nice, just leans left on allot of things. Just a fundamental difference in opinion there. She's not malicious about it at all.. A nice lady.

What's wrong with AVRWC?

Pherret is simply a alternative lifestyle, left wing nut job. He can actually be fun to debate with when he's not threatening to kick everyone's ass and reminding you that he's ex special forces or MI6 or whatever he was before the aids ate his brain.

Ahhh, fudge.

There's one in every crowd. Hoffa's it tonight.

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2008-11-12   20:29:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Jhoffa_ (#16)

Pherret is simply a alternative lifestyle, left wing nut job. He can actually be fun to debate with when he's not threatening to kick everyone's ass and reminding you that he's ex special forces or MI6 or whatever he was before the aids ate his brain.

Very hilarious btw !!!

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2008-11-12   20:29:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: Rotara (#18) (Edited)

Sorry.. I can't help it. I got a soft spot for Robin.

Lemme make it up to you.. We'll get drunk and key ferrets bicycle.

How's that?

~ Your failure to be informed, does not make me a wacko.

Jhoffa_  posted on  2008-11-12   20:30:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: Rotara (#18)

i'm the second one in the crowd or is it the third. i did some editing. it's not fair to make individual members the subject of threads. i wouldn't want you to be either. ;)

There are no warlike people--just warlike leaders. – Ralph Bunche

christine  posted on  2008-11-12   20:43:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: Jhoffa_, Rotara, christine, ferret (#20)

Sorry.. I can't help it. I got a soft spot for Robin.

I have a soft spot for ferret since his bicyclethug days. That picture where he looks like Don Johnson didn't hurt either. Ok so I'm thinking with the wrong anatomy.


I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies. If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around [the banks] will deprive the people of all property until their children wake-up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered. The issuing power should be taken from the banks and restored to the people, to whom it properly belongs. —Thomas Jefferson, 1802

farmfriend  posted on  2008-11-12   20:45:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: christine (#21)

i'm the second one in the crowd or is it the third. i did some editing. it's not fair to make individual members the subject of threads. i wouldn't want you to be either. ;)

Thank you!!!


I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies. If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around [the banks] will deprive the people of all property until their children wake-up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered. The issuing power should be taken from the banks and restored to the people, to whom it properly belongs. —Thomas Jefferson, 1802

farmfriend  posted on  2008-11-12   20:46:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: farmfriend (#22)

You gotta give it to him, man.. Ferret is a TRUE BELIEVER.

He's not bs'ing you. He's not pulling your leg. He's the real, left wing, alternative deal.

The guy is a zealot.

He's wrong, but he's not trying to mislead.. He has faith.

~ Your failure to be informed, does not make me a wacko.

Jhoffa_  posted on  2008-11-12   20:48:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: Jhoffa_ (#24)

You gotta give it to him, man.. Ferret is a TRUE BELIEVER.

Yes he is.


I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies. If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around [the banks] will deprive the people of all property until their children wake-up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered. The issuing power should be taken from the banks and restored to the people, to whom it properly belongs. —Thomas Jefferson, 1802

farmfriend  posted on  2008-11-12   20:49:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: farmfriend (#25)

Yes he is.

He's a person who holds a worldview radical to the left. Since that political position ultimately leads to a loss of personal freedom, what's to like?

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-11-12   20:59:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: Rotara (#9)

I'll be continuing on as a forest activist here. Why are you so hung up on sex with hung humans? It is positively embarrassing to talk at-cha dog.

Try women, they are where it's at if you are so conflicted with your sexuality you have to always think about being carnal with the guys. We already know you want Arator to fuck you until you are inside out, get a grip on yourself.

Or... maybe that's your problem here. What do you do with your other paw when you are moving the mouse around? What are you doing with it?

Bet I know.


"You only have power over people so long as you don't take everything away from them. But when you've robbed a man of everything he's no longer in your power -- he's free again. Alexander Solzhenitsyn

Ferret Mike  posted on  2008-11-12   21:34:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: Ferret Mike (#27)

I'll be continuing on as a forest activist gnome here.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-11-12   21:41:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: Jethro Tull (#28) (Edited)

Closet folks.

Exposed already.

It's funny to watch them whip about. But they are deadly serious about securing the iron fist defining 'free' speech.

OliviaFNewton  posted on  2008-11-12   21:45:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: Jethro Tull (#28)

Want to rent a bulldozer and drive it through a gay funeral while shooting at beggars? Me either, where do the marxists come up with this stuff?

And they write innumerable books; being too vain and distracted for silence: seeking every one after his own elevation, and dodging his emptiness. - T. S. Eliot

Dakmar  posted on  2008-11-12   21:47:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: Jethro Tull (#26)

One thing for sure, buttercup; If you judged my character by the human quality of my fans such as you and Tara, you'd think I was a real asshole.

Right wingers, lefties and all types in between are never totally right or wrong about things, and it is the dynamic of working out compromises and solutions that keeps people honest and makes our constitutional republic work acceptably well for the most part.

You seem to swear by your belief system with no doubt you are inhumanly perfect. I'm here to tell you you aren't, and neither am I.

I do maintain a modicum of humility and the perspective that it's OK to acknowledge one's talents and graces, one must always remember that they are human with feet of clay.

Now, you and Tara are hell bent to studs and leather to keep the election fires burning. Feel free to do so, but the part where it takes two to tango doesn't work after an election like this.

I don't need the hate, and the ideological masturbation you two lovebirds are into. But thanks for sharing this thread. Nice to know you still care.


"You only have power over people so long as you don't take everything away from them. But when you've robbed a man of everything he's no longer in your power -- he's free again. Alexander Solzhenitsyn

Ferret Mike  posted on  2008-11-12   21:48:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: Jethro Tull (#28)

"I'll be continuing on as a forest activist gnome here."

Gnome with the wind, that's me, sport.


"You only have power over people so long as you don't take everything away from them. But when you've robbed a man of everything he's no longer in your power -- he's free again. Alexander Solzhenitsyn

Ferret Mike  posted on  2008-11-12   21:49:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: OliviaFNewton (#29)

But they are deadly serious about securing the iron fist defining 'free' speech.

Folks will learn this very soon. I searched real hard trying to find where a radical left government was conducive to freedom, and dammit if I didn't come up dry. What a shock, eh?

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-11-12   21:51:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: Ferret Mike (#31)

Right wingers, lefties and all types in between are never totally right or wrong about things..

Perhaps some things are not relative, Ferret..

I hate to toss "moral absolutes" into the mix, but there they are regardless.

~ Your failure to be informed, does not make me a wacko.

Jhoffa_  posted on  2008-11-12   21:51:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: Ferret Mike (#32)

Gnome and wind both in one sentence. That's you.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-11-12   21:52:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: Ferret Mike (#32)

Jackson and Sharpton Say Their Activist Roles Will Not Change
by Hazel Trice Edney
NNPA Editor-in-Chief

And they write innumerable books; being too vain and distracted for silence: seeking every one after his own elevation, and dodging his emptiness. - T. S. Eliot

Dakmar  posted on  2008-11-12   21:53:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: Dakmar (#36)

Jackson and Sharpton Say Their Activist Roles Will Not Change

Wait a second here.....didn't HIS ascension render the affirmative action/civil rights extortion racket moot? Like WTF?

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-11-12   21:57:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: Dakmar (#30)

Want to rent a bulldozer and drive it through a gay funeral while shooting at beggars?

Well... Yeah.

~ Your failure to be informed, does not make me a wacko.

Jhoffa_  posted on  2008-11-12   21:59:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: Jhoffa_ (#38)

Want to bet a fiver that someone overreacts?

And they write innumerable books; being too vain and distracted for silence: seeking every one after his own elevation, and dodging his emptiness. - T. S. Eliot

Dakmar  posted on  2008-11-12   22:02:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: Dakmar (#39)

Hey, as long as you're posting the deposit, I could give a $hit.

Loan me five bucks...

~ Your failure to be informed, does not make me a wacko.

Jhoffa_  posted on  2008-11-12   22:04:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: Jethro Tull (#37)

“The issues haven’t gone away,” says Sharpton. “Barack Obama said this is the beginning of change. This is not change itself. It’s almost insulting to act like Blacks should now shut up just because we have a Black president.”

Tune in next week for more happy stories about social engineering.

And they write innumerable books; being too vain and distracted for silence: seeking every one after his own elevation, and dodging his emptiness. - T. S. Eliot

Dakmar  posted on  2008-11-12   22:04:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: Jhoffa_ (#34)

Good to see you Hoffa, welcome to 4UM. Or welcome back if you were here before.


"You only have power over people so long as you don't take everything away from them. But when you've robbed a man of everything he's no longer in your power -- he's free again. Alexander Solzhenitsyn

Ferret Mike  posted on  2008-11-12   22:05:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: Jhoffa_ (#40)

Loan me five bucks

Only if you promise not to block my nomination for FedResGov.

And they write innumerable books; being too vain and distracted for silence: seeking every one after his own elevation, and dodging his emptiness. - T. S. Eliot

Dakmar  posted on  2008-11-12   22:06:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: Ferret Mike (#42)

Thanks Mike.. Appreciate it.

Of course, you're 100% completely, totally, galactically wrong..

But if I didn't think so, we'd have nothing left to talk about.. Would we?

~ Your failure to be informed, does not make me a wacko.

Jhoffa_  posted on  2008-11-12   22:08:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: Dakmar (#43)

No, no.. I've got signs all over my yard, man.

Really.

~ Your failure to be informed, does not make me a wacko.

Jhoffa_  posted on  2008-11-12   22:09:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: Christine (#21)

i wouldn't want you to be either. ;)

Wouldn't bother me in the least. In fact.. ;-)

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2008-11-13   0:06:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: Jhoffa_ (#45)

I'll bring the keys you bring the tequila.

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2008-11-13   0:06:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#48. To: Jhoffa_ (#16)

What's wrong with AVRWC?

You mean other than his support for an illegal alien, commie for President? Probably not too much wrong with him other than that.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2008-11-13   0:18:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: James Deffenbach, JHoffa_ (#48)

What's wrong with AVRWC?

You mean other than his support for an illegal alien, commie for President? Probably not too much wrong with him other than that.

Outside of the fact that he's a tiny cog in the machine of the Enemy Within, nothin' ! ahaha

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2008-11-13   0:21:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: Jhoffa_ (#20)

"We'll get drunk and key ferrets bicycle."

As bad as bike theft is in Eugene, Oregon, I would rather be keyed then turned into a pedestrian.

Not to mention, other bicyclists using the same racks always manage to damage quality bikes, as the bump and grind their cheap rides into what is locked around theirs.

The machines I own cheap enough to lock in a rack already has street grade damage to them, key away. But you touch my Cenelli Super Corsa now, only a good xray will be able to spot where I put your key. ;-D


"You only have power over people so long as you don't take everything away from them. But when you've robbed a man of everything he's no longer in your power -- he's free again. Alexander Solzhenitsyn

Ferret Mike  posted on  2008-11-13   0:22:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#51. To: Rotara (#49)

Yeah. You know, I can understand to some degree how young people--and I am talking about people old enough to vote but who are naive, impressionable and perhaps a bit gullible--being snookered by someone like Obama. But for older people who should know better? I can't see giving them any benefit of the doubt.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2008-11-13   0:30:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#52. To: Jethro Tull (#26)

Since that political position ultimately leads to a loss of personal freedom, what's to like?

We do not hold the same political beliefs but he has been a loyal friend. That is more than I can say for some here who do hold the same potlical beliefs to mine. He has always come to my personal defense. He has never spread rumors about me, posted obnoxious pictures or called me names. That has always come from those who claim to be on the right side of the political line.

Do I like his politics? No. Do I like him as a person and a friend? Yes.


I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies. If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around [the banks] will deprive the people of all property until their children wake-up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered. The issuing power should be taken from the banks and restored to the people, to whom it properly belongs. —Thomas Jefferson, 1802

farmfriend  posted on  2008-11-13   1:30:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#53. To: James Deffenbach (#51)

Yeah. You know, I can understand to some degree how young people--and I am talking about people old enough to vote but who are naive, impressionable and perhaps a bit gullible--being snookered by someone like Obama.

This whole cycle was skewed.. We were given a choice between Napoleon and Karl Marx.

McCain went up there and tried to triangulate on most everything but dubya's war mongering and tax cut line.. In an era of record deficits, no less.

It's no wonder Obama got a bump, even among Conservatives.. (Or what passes for them anyway)

The people who irk me are the ones who bought into his whole agenda and the personality cult. Just voting for the guy because he's not W or McCain isn't a crime this time out.. The irrational, knee jerk defenders are a different matter.

For the record, I couldn't bring myself to vote for either of the uber-party candidates.

~ Your failure to be informed, does not make me a wacko.

Jhoffa_  posted on  2008-11-13   10:13:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#54. To: Jhoffa_ (#53)

We were given a choice between Napoleon and Karl Marx.

Sad but very, very true :P

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-11-13   10:18:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#55. To: Jhoffa_ (#53) (Edited)

For the record--and anyone who has seen as many as ten of my posts on this and other boards already knows it--I didn't vote for the statist whores either. Ron Paul was my first choice but he dropped out. Chuck Baldwin would have also been good and I could have voted for him in good conscience if he had made the ballot where I live (he didn't and they don't count write ins). I pretty much never had anyone to vote for for President.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2008-11-13   10:24:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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