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Title: 2006 NY Daily News Podcast Interview With Rahm Emanuel On Compulsory Service Plan, Will Media Ignore Again?
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URL Source: http://newsbusters.org/blogs/kerry- ... ory-service-plan-will-media-ig
Published: Nov 12, 2008
Author: Kerry Picket
Post Date: 2008-11-12 20:12:31 by bluegrass
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As a follow up to my previous post on the media blowing off President-elect Barack Obama's conscription plan(which seems to be disappearing from the Obama transition team's site among many other agenda items, as Newsbuster Tom Blumer has discovered), Naked Emperor News has found some interesting audio of Rahm Emanuel, Obama's Chief of Staff appointee, talking to NY Daily News reporter Ben Smith in 2006 about his mandatory civil service plan. The idea was detailed in Emanuel's co-authored book, The Plan. (my emphasis added:) SMITH: I mean it's a lot more than the U.S. government asks of anybody right now. EMANUEL: Guess what? We have a lot more challenges, so we are going to need a lot to do it. SMITH: I mean I don't mean to get hung up on the aesthetics of it, but like uniforms...is it like Europe...people go absent EMANUEL: If you're worried about going to have to do 50 jumping jacks, the answer is "yes." SMITH: Are you kinda shifting the "country-esque" Army bases in the Summers? I mean... I wonder how it's going work. This is people's experiences. It's so abstract. Do you go nine to five in some course in a Red Cross building? EMANUEL: The whole idea there is it will be worked on you can do it through your State-National guard could be the vehicle for that. The goal here wasn't to sit here and work on piece of legislation for ya' and all that, but that's one venue of doing it. SMITH: I'm a little hung up on the Barracks. EMANUEL: Is there a reason? Do you want to talk about it? Do you have Blue Cross Blue Shield coverage on this? Are you worried about this in some capacity? SMITH: No, I'm just...just curious EMANUEL: Rather than figure out if you take a train ride or a barrack, think of it this way: it will be a common experience, and you'll be prepared. God forbid there's a chemical hit, there's another terrorist act, or a natural disaster (which are coming more frequent), there will be a body of citizens who are ready and capable and trained. That's all you have to think about. We're all here for you, ok? It's a circle of love. Smith commented on the NY Daily News blog about Emanuel's reaction to his curiosity on the "universal service": We also talked a bit about his new book, The Plan, written with Bruce Reed, and particularly about his argument for instituting some kind of universal service, in the form of civil-defense training. He found my interest in whether there will be barracks more amusing than I'd anticipated. The mainstream media continues to ignore this plan, which is not necessarily unusual for them. However, considering the amount of youth voters who lined up for Obama this election season, it is truly unfortunate they are the last ones to find out about this "requirement" of the new Obama administration. The audio is uploaded at Eyeblast.tv.
SMITH: I meant to ask you about the universal service piece of the plan. Can you tell me about it? Like, how is this going to work? Are people going to live in barracks?
EMANUEL: Universal civil defense training…I think he had it at 18, but we were saying somewhere between the ages of 18 to 25, you will do three months of training. You can do it in your(inaudible). Some point in college you can do just that. There can be nothing wrong with all Americans having a joint similar experience of civil ...what we call civil defense training or civil service...some sense of service to country in preparation, which will give people a sense of what it means to be an American. We propose three months. At the end of the day someone says it should be four more. I’m not going to sit here and hold it up.
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#1. To: bluegrass (#0)
I would fully support a return to the draft maybe then Americans will stop this stupid love affair with everything military
"The Knesset, the Israeli parliament, is meanwhile considering plans to make civil service compulsory for all Israeli citizens, including Israeli Arabs."
Maybe then they'll burn down some infrastructure, take to the streets, ... burn baby burn !!!
Where's your birth certificate Barack ?
Commie Fascist Circle Jerk is much more like it.
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
Perhaps you are not clear on the Constitution's obligation, which is national defense, and perhaps you do not understand how that has been abused by the government, time after time. No declaration of war. It's unconstitutional but has gone on so long, you seem to think this is agreed upon by the sheep fed by media lies, which you are only too happy to promote. You LIAR. Americans don't have a love affair with war, you idiot. You, having seen this from two nations you FLED, want this for your kid? Oh, what love you have for your family. You who could properly educate and warn. But no, you want this for payback of some sick kind. YOu WANT this. You want death and destruction. You blame all the wrong people. You chickenshit. You hold none of the right accountable. You are a total disgrace. You, a radio host, knowing the truth and ignoring it. Evil little POS. Who the hell do you work for? Do you ever read up on Odingo and Obama, or do you stick to your lies? Closet dweller.
Most don't understand why Americans were anti-war in the 60's and 70's and even though I was not living in America at the time I know my experiences in South Africa were no different the draft was something you had to deal with when you either left school or turned 18 the moment I stepped into boot camp and came across my first PF (stands for permanent force) I knew these people were the losers in life,back then the military was where you went when you could not cut it in civilian life...
Maybe you should do a little book learning on the founders feelings about a standing army...moron!
Americans will be anti-war when the media tells them to be.
The Bill of Rights: Antipathy to Militarism by Jacob G. Hornberger, Posted December 3, 2004 The Third Amendment to the U.S. Constitution provides that “no Soldier shall, in time of peace be quartered in any house, without the consent of the Owner, nor in time of war, but in a manner to be prescribed by law.” Obviously, the Third Amendment has little relevance today. But what is relevant for us today is the mindset that underlay the passage of that amendment — a mindset of deep antipathy toward militarism and standing armies. Our ancestors’ fierce opposition to a powerful military force was consistent with their overall philosophy that guided the formation of the Constitution and the passage of the Bill of Rights. While the Framers understood the need for a federal government, what concerned them was the possibility that such a government would become a worse menace than no government at all. Their recent experience with the British government — which of course had been their government and against which they had taken up arms — had reinforced what they had learned through their study of history: that the biggest threat to the freedom and well-being of a people was their own government. Thus, after several years operating under the Articles of Confederation, the challenge the Framers faced was how to bring a federal government into existence that would be sufficiently powerful to protect their rights and liberties but that would not also become omnipotent and tyrannical. Their solution was the Constitution, a document that would call the federal government into existence but limit its powers to those expressly enumerated in the document itself. Thus, a close examination of the Constitution shows that the powers of the U.S. government originate in it. The idea was that if a power wasn’t enumerated, federal officials were precluded from exercising it. Even that, however, was not good enough for our American ancestors. They wanted an express restriction on the abridgement of what had become historically recognized as fundamental and inherent rights of the people. In other words, they wanted what could be considered an express insurance policy for the protection of their rights. While government officials could not lawfully exercise powers that were not enumerated in the Constitution, the Bill of Rights would make the point even more emphatically that federal officials had no authority to abridge the fundamental rights of the people. The Constitution provided other measures to protect against the rise of omnipotent and tyrannical government. One was the division of government into three separate branches, with the aim of establishing a system of “checks and balances” that would prevent the rise of powerful centralized government. Another was the Second Amendment, which ensured that the people would retain the means of resisting tyranny or even violently overthrowing a tyrannical government should the need arise. Given their view that the federal government they were bringing into existence constituted the biggest threat to their freedom and well-being, constantly on the minds of our ancestors was the primary means by which governments had historically subjected their people to tyranny — through the use of the government’s military forces. That is the primary reason for the deep antipathy that the Founders had for an enormous standing military force in their midst. They understood fully that if such a force existed, their own government would possess the primary means by which governments have always imposed tyranny on their own people. Using armies for tyranny Historically, governments had misused standing armies in two ways, both of which ultimately subjected the citizenry to tyranny. One was to engage in faraway wars, which inevitably entailed enormous expenditures, enabling the government to place ever-increasing tax burdens on the people. Such wars also inevitably entailed “patriotic” calls for blind allegiance to the government so long as the war was being waged. Consider, for example, the immortal words of James Madison, who is commonly referred to as “the father of the Constitution”: Of all the enemies to public liberty war is, perhaps, the most to be dreaded, because it comprises and develops the germ of every other. War is the parent of armies; from these proceed debts and taxes; and armies, and debts, and taxes are the known instruments for bringing the many under the domination of the few. In war, too, the discretionary power of the Executive is extended; its influence in dealing out offices, honors, and emoluments is multiplied; and all the means of seducing the minds, are added to those of subduing the force, of the people.... [There is also an] inequality of fortunes, and the opportunities of fraud, growing out of a state of war, and ... degeneracy of manners and of morals.... No nation could preserve its freedom in the midst of continual warfare. The second way to use a standing army to impose tyranny was the direct one — the use of troops to establish order and obedience among the citizenry. Ordinarily, if a government has no huge standing army at its disposal, many people will choose to violate immoral laws that always come with a tyrannical regime; that is, they engage in what is commonly known as “civil disobedience” — the disobedience to immoral laws. But as the Chinese people discovered at Tiananmen Square, when the government has a standing army to enforce its will, civil disobedience becomes much more problematic. Consider again the words of Madison: A standing military force, with an overgrown Executive will not long be safe companions to liberty. The means of defence agst. foreign danger, have been always the instruments of tyranny at home. Among the Romans it was a standing maxim to excite a war, whenever a revolt was apprehended. Throughout all Europe, the armies kept up under the pretext of defending, have enslaved the people. The idea is that governments use their armies to produce the enemies, then scare the people with cries that the barbarians are at the gates, and then claim that war is necessary to put down the barbarians. With all this, needless to say, comes increased governmental power over the people. Sound familiar? The Founding Fathers Here is how Henry St. George Tucker put it in Blackstone’s 1768 Commentaries on the Laws of England: Wherever standing armies are kept up, and when the right of the people to keep and bear arms is, under any color or pretext whatsoever, prohibited, liberty, if not already annihilated, is on the brink of destruction. Virginian Patrick Henry pointed out the difficulty associated with violent resistance to tyranny when a standing army is enforcing the orders of the government: A standing army we shall have, also, to execute the execrable commands of tyranny; and how are you to punish them? Will you order them to be punished? Who shall obey these orders? Will your mace-bearer be a match for a disciplined regiment? When the Commonwealth of Virginia ratified the Constitution in 1788, its concern over standing armies mirrored that of Patrick Henry: ... that standing armies in time of peace are dangerous to liberty, and therefore ought to be avoided, as far as the circumstances and protection of the community will admit; and that in all cases the military should be under strict subordination to and governed by the civil power. Virginia’s concern was expressed by North Carolina, which stated in its Declaration of Rights in 1776, that the people have a Right to bear Arms for the Defence of the State, and as Standing Armies in Time of Peace are dangerous to Liberty, they ought not to be kept up, and that the military should be kept under strict Subordination to, and governed by the Civil Power. The Pennsylvania Convention repeated that principle: ... as standing armies in time of peace are dangerous to liberty, they ought not to be kept up; and that the military shall be kept under strict subordination to and be governed by the civil power. The U.S. State Department’s own website describes the convictions of the Founding Fathers regarding standing armies: Wrenching memories of the Old World lingered in the 13 original English colonies along the eastern seaboard of North America, giving rise to deep opposition to the maintenance of a standing army in time of peace. All too often the standing armies of Europe were regarded as, at best, a rationale for imposing high taxes, and, at worst, a means to control the civilian population and extort its wealth. In fact, as Roy G. Weatherup pointed out in his excellent article, “Standing Armies and Armed Citizens: A Historical Analysis of the Second Amendment” (www.saf.org/journal/ 1_stand.html), the abuses of their government’s standing army was one of the primary reasons that the British colonists took up arms against that army in 1776: [The Declaration of Independence] listed the colonists’ grievances, including the presence of standing armies, subordination of civil to military power, use of foreign mercenary soldiers, quartering of troops, and the use of the royal prerogative to suspend laws and charters. All of these legal actions resulted from reliance on standing armies in place of the militia. Moreover, as William S. Fields and David T. Hardy point out in their excellent article, “The Third Amendment and the Issue of the Maintenance of Standing Armies: A Legal History” (www.saf.org/LawReviews/FieldsAnd Hardy2.html), the deep antipathy that the Founders had toward standing armies followed a long tradition among the British people of opposing the standing armies of their king: The experience of the early Middle Ages had instilled in the English people a deep aversion to the professional army, which they came to associate with oppressive taxes, and physical abuses of their persons and property (and corresponding fondness for their traditional institution the militia). This development was to have a profound effect on the development of civil rights in both England and the American colonies.... During the seventeenth century, problems associated with the involuntary quartering of soldiers and the maintenance of standing armies became crucial issues propelling the English nation toward civil war. Did the antipathy against standing armies mean that our ancestors were pacifists? On the contrary! After all, don’t forget that they had only recently won a violent war against their own government and its enormous and powerful standing army. In their minds, the military bedrock of a free society lay not in an enormous standing army but rather in the concept of the citizen-soldier — the person in ordinary life in civil society who is well-armed and well-trained in the use of weapons and who is always ready in times of deepest peril to come to the aid of his country — but only to defend against invasion and not to go overseas to wage wars of aggression or wars of “liberation.” As John Quincy Adams put it in his July 4, 1821, address to Congress, America “does not go abroad, in search of monsters to destroy.” U.S. foreign policy Are the ideas and principles of the Founding Fathers relevant today? They couldn’t be more relevant. Many decades ago, President Dwight Eisenhower warned us about the growing power of the military-industrial complex in American life. Unfortunately, the American people failed to heed his warning. The result has been an ever-growing military cancer that is bringing death, ruin, shame, and economic disaster to our nation — just as our Founding Fathers said it would. More and more people are finally recognizing that the anger and hatred that foreigners have for the United States is rooted in morally bankrupt, deadly, and destructive foreign policies — policies that have been enforced by America’s enormous standing military force. The resulting blow-back in terms of terrorist attacks, such as those on the World Trade Center in 1993 and 2001, have been used as the excuse for waging more wars thousands of miles away, and those wars have produced even more anger and hatred, with the concomitant threat of even more terrorist counter-responses. All that, in turn, has provided the excuse for more foreign interventions, ever-increasing military budgets, consolidation of power, increasing taxes, and massive infringements on the civil liberties of the American people. It is not a coincidence that the president’s indefinite detention and punishment of American citizens for suspected terrorist crimes without according them due process, habeas corpus, right to counsel, jury trials, freedom of speech, or other fundamental rights guaranteed by the Constitution and the Bill of Rights are being enforced by the standing army that our ancestors warned us against. And make no mistake about it: Given orders of their commander in chief, especially in a “national security crisis,” to establish “order” in America, U.S. soldiers will do the same thing that soldiers throughout history have done — they will obey the orders given to them. Just ask the survivors of the massacre at the Branch Davidian compound at Waco or the victims of rape and sex abuse at Abu Graib prison in Iraq or Jose Padilla, an American citizen who is currently in Pentagon custody, where he has been denied due process, habeas corpus, and other rights accorded by the U.S. Constitution. In determining the future direction of our nation, the choice is clear: Do we continue down the road of empire, standing armies, foreign wars and occupations, and sanctions and embargoes, along with the taxes, regulations, and loss of liberty that inevitably come with them? Do we continue a foreign policy, enforced by the U.S. military, that engenders ever-increasing anger and hatred among the people of the world, which then engenders violent “blowback” against Americans, which is in turn used to justify more of the same policies? Or do we change direction and move our nation in the direction of the vision of our Founding Fathers — toward liberty and the restoration of a republic to our nation — toward a society in which the government is limited to protecting the nation from invasion and barred from invading or attacking foreign nations — a world in which the United States is once again the model society for freedom, prosperity, peace, and harmony — a nation in which the Statue of Liberty once again becomes a shining beacon for those striving to escape the tyranny and oppression of their own governments? Jacob Hornberger is founder and president of The Future of Freedom Foundation. Send him email.
My dear, I was born here and have done my homework. You however, have not a clue. I hope you are quickly on the run again. Now what other place can you move to and ruin.
Robbie is a freeking moron who was relegated to BOZO list long ago. YOu WANT this. You want death and destruction. You blame all the wrong people. You chickenshit. You hold none of the right accountable. You are a total disgrace. You, a radio host, knowing the truth and ignoring it. Evil little POS. Who the hell do you work for? Do you ever read up on Odingo and Obama, or do you stick to your lies? Closet dweller. WELL DONE OFN!
Law Enforcement Against Prohibition "Corporation: An entity created for the legal protection of its human parasites, whose sole purpose is profit and self-perpetuation." © IndieTx Dual agent provateur comes to mind.,,or just plain stupid. Maybe he wants it to raise his metals company's profits. He is despised..and to think I listened to him on S/w radio from his very beginnings.
Law Enforcement Against Prohibition "Corporation: An entity created for the legal protection of its human parasites, whose sole purpose is profit and self-perpetuation." © IndieTx I don't care where you were born that does not give you any added intelligence just explain the 3rd Amendment to me....you must be one of those Freepers AKA constitutionally challenged
Closet dweller. WELL DONE OFN! The boy has problems, no doubt. But, worse than bozo, he has a big megaphone. Airwaves to deceive. He needs to brought to heel to the truth. Liars hate the light of day. That girl needs a truth adjustment. Thanks Indie. It's long past time the door was flung open on these moles.
I am to rich to worry about raising profits for RTG I do it so as favour to RBN to keep them on the air .....and yes I work for the NWO so be careful I know everything about you
You, are morally challenged by your hatred of all things moral. YOu have nothing to offer but more hatred. You can accuse me of anything you wish, but you own words speak of your hatred of America and Americans. Keep slinging the hash girl.
Explain the 3rd amendment?
The guy that lives two houses down from me talks a good game, yet the only gang graffiti in our neighborhood is on empty house next to his. I been thinking about getting some white spray paint and covering over illiterate snic artwork, but it's been raining here last two evenings.
And they write innumerable books; being too vain and distracted for silence: seeking every one after his own elevation, and dodging his emptiness. - T. S. Eliot
It really has become a religion. An evil one at that.
"Satan / Cheney in "08" You need to seek professional help ......
Rob, I owe you nothing. You have the big box voice. Perhaps you would like to educate the forum on your interpretation of the 3rd ammendment. Further, could you provide your stations mailing address? ;) And further, please oh please, explain, why America deserves OBAMA. And, if so inclined, you can come out of the closet.
You, having seen this from two nations you FLED, want this for your kid? Oh, what love you have for your family. You who could properly educate and warn. But no, you want this for payback of some sick kind. YOu WANT this. You want death and destruction. You blame all the wrong people. You chickenshit. You hold none of the right accountable. You are a total disgrace. You, a radio host, knowing the truth and ignoring it. Evil little POS. Who the hell do you work for? Do you ever read up on Odingo and Obama, or do you stick to your lies? Closet dweller. OliviaFNewton posted on 2008-11-12 20:28:16 ET Reply Trace Private Reply Utter Fantasy.
"Satan / Cheney in "08" The answer from a radio hack.
Nope, sorry, but there is a nice little group of you that wish to convince others as such.
I wouldn't allow a loved one to volunteer. They become fodder for globalism.
Why don't you just debate the issue of the founders feelings about a standing army rather than your personal attacks is that because you don't have a leg to stand on when someone not born in America knows more about Americas history and it's constitution than you do?
Dodging your own comments again. You don't know shit about the soul of this country as has been proven by your comments. You are in deep trouble and you know it. So far, you dodge, apologize and attack again and again... I've watched your idiotic posts. So, would you like to start again? Let's review. You dodge the issue, then question, you distract to another topic, then attack if you don't get the answer. Sorry alien, you don't seem to understand American focus.
I wonder if I can go serve my time in Israel building Apartheid Walls for settlers on the land they steal from Lebanon after the next war.
The Truth of 911 Shall Set You Free From The Lie
It all started with a picture of a Dodge Powerwagon My dream was to spread democracy big block style.
And they write innumerable books; being too vain and distracted for silence: seeking every one after his own elevation, and dodging his emptiness. - T. S. Eliot
Explain the 3rd amendment
You dodge your comments. Explain Obama's support of Odinga and genocide. And your support of Obama.
I have never supported Obama likewise I did not support the bimbo ticket either.....just goes to prove my point you need help!
Rob, you are lying agin. No, you said, America deserves Obama. Then we (you and I) debated it. Try to put down the crack pipe.
freedom4um.com/cgi-bin/re...? ArtNum=89777&Disp=92#C92 Your words.
Maybe if you think about it you will understand why I said that....but you being such a dead head it went right over it.....go back to freerepublic where you belong
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- #120. To: OliviaFNewton (#114) Let me put it into context Americans forced South Africans to accept a black president to cleanse its white guilt ...now you get to deal with it turn about is fair play...your other argument not with standing robnoel posted on 2008-10-29 21:45:04 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
I am where I belong. You however, are not.
ping to the above In case you don't remember what you said. All...... Now we get to deal with it turn about is fair play. Genocide, is apparently fair play for rob.
I've almost had it with you lets take my response in context I responded to Jethro who said To: robnoel (#57) if this was a big deal it would be all over the media The elevation of Mandela to Sainthood was a global media sensation, not that it was true. Most I know didn't buy the propagenda, nevertheless today he's adored everywhere, save cyberspace, where we know better. The parallels bet. him and Obongo are similar as are their politics. My response No question about that chalk it up to white guilt I've said this before America deserves Obama Here I compare Obama to Nelson Mandela a noted communist and terrorist who was elected president by and large because of white guilt America likewise is suffering from that same white guilt and because of that deserve what they get...... So please go away and seek help somewhere PS I've got a reason to have a problem with black africans but you are a racist
So please go away and seek help somewhere Rob, You are incapable of getting a point. You are still promoting white genocide. You still promote a marxist, knowing what you know is inexcusable. Doing so, knowing what you know about Obama, or perhaps unable to admit what you do not know, corners you to fight for your pride rather than truth. Get a clue. We have little time to debate the fate of humanity. Payback is for the ignorant. Either wake up or understand, many of us will call you on your disrespectful, flippant and dangerous comments. You should have more respect for your own family. Sadly, it's clear that either you don't, or are more ideologically twisted that you are too far gone to have a place to dictate to others. I have NO GUILT for what has happened to Africa. You apparently don't understand why. Perhaps YOUUUUUUUUU should think about that. Now again, let's review. You think more genocide will teach Americans what turn about is. Tell me, how would they know? You, high God of what all Americans have been told by our media. Tell us, oh tell us, why we should die. I usually think a higher power has such right, but you apparently think you do. Tell us.
OK try this how many American supported Nelson Mandela....I'll leave out Condi Rice who took him off the terror watch list or George Bush who called him a great statesmen at a red carpet reception at the White House or the US Congress who gave him Americas highest award or the millions of Americans who gave millions of dollars to the "Spear of the Nation" promoted by every college in America as the a freedom movement all the while turning a blind towards the genocide against white's in Africa....you want to watch it
Dodging again. what nation would you like your kid to grow up in? Or do you need payback for you?
You don't get it...let it go!
Rob, Answer it now, or I will call in to your radio show and ask you. Why does America deserve Obama, and why do you support genocide for payback?
Heres the number call anytime I don't screen calls you better brush up on your history and the constitution first don't want to embarrass you .... On-Air Call-in Number 800-313-9443
Caution son, man to boy, dont get carried away. Most likely you would have to use the mute switch. Just trying to save you embarrassment.
Pearls before swine.
"Satan / Cheney in "08" And the good Republicans just gave Billions of money to Wall Street. That you and our children will be on the debt hook for many years. You are an utter fool.
"Satan / Cheney in "08" That is the most uplifting thing I have seen in weeks.
"Satan / Cheney in "08" You are an utter fool. Tom, Who exactly has been in control of Congress for two years? I'm not on the hook, I'm out of the grid for all intents and purposes. You are stuck and I hope you can see the trees sooner than later. Well, hope really isn't in the cards. You will see the trees, but perhaps never have a clue why they fell on you.
Do we deserve Obama now?
You are an utter fool. mark.
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#3. To: robnoel (#1)
#4. To: robnoel (#1)
then Americans will stop this stupid love affair with everything military.
#5. To: noone222 (#4)
It's a circle of love.
#6. To: robnoel (#1)
I would fully support a return to the draft maybe then Americans will stop this stupid love affair with everything military
#7. To: bluegrass (#3)
#8. To: OliviaFNewton (#6)
#9. To: robnoel (#7)
#10. To: OliviaFNewton (#6)
Before you make a idiot of yourself
#11. To: robnoel (#8)
Maybe you should do a little book learning on the founders feelings about a standing army...moron!
#12. To: OliviaFNewton (#6)
I would fully support a return to the draft maybe then Americans will stop this stupid love affair with everything military
"There is no 'legitimate' Corporation by virtue of its very legal definition and purpose."
-- IndieTx
#13. To: christine (#12)
(Edited)
Who do you work for?
ping to 12
"There is no 'legitimate' Corporation by virtue of its very legal definition and purpose."
-- IndieTx
#14. To: OliviaFNewton (#11)
#15. To: IndieTX (#12)
(Edited)
Robbie is a freeking moron who was relegated to BOZO list long ago.
#16. To: IndieTX (#13)
#17. To: robnoel (#14)
I don't care where you were born that does not give you any added intelligence just explain the 3rd Amendment to me....you must be one of those Freepers AKA constitutionally challenged
#18. To: OliviaFNewton (#15)
#19. To: noone222 (#4)
Maybe then they'll burn down some infrastructure, take to the streets, ... burn baby burn !!!
#20. To: robnoel (#1)
hen Americans will stop this stupid love affair with everything military
#21. To: OliviaFNewton (#17)
#22. To: robnoel (#18)
Explain the 3rd amendment?
#23. To: OliviaFNewton (#6)
Americans don't have a love affair with war, you idiot.
#24. To: robnoel (#21)
You need to seek professional help ......
#25. To: tom007 (#23)
Utter Fantasy.
#26. To: tom007 (#20)
It really has become a religion. An evil one at that.
#27. To: OliviaFNewton (#24)
#28. To: robnoel (#27)
Why don't you just debate the issue of the founders feelings about a standing army rather than your personal attacks is that because you don't have a leg to stand on when someone not born in America knows more about Americas history and it's constitution than you do?
#29. To: robnoel, bluegrass (#1)
#30. To: tom007 (#20)
(Edited)
It really has become a religion. An evil one at that.
#31. To: OliviaFNewton (#28)
You dodge the issue,
#32. To: robnoel (#31)
You dodge the issue,
#33. To: OliviaFNewton (#32)
#34. To: robnoel (#33)
(Edited)
I have never supported Obama likewise I did not support the bimbo ticket either.....just goes to prove my point you need help!
#35. To: robnoel (#33)
No question about that chalk it up to white guilt I've said this before America deserves Obama
#36. To: OliviaFNewton (#34)
#37. To: All (#35)
freedom4um.com/cgi-bin/re...rtNum=89777&Disp=120#C120
#38. To: robnoel (#36)
.....go back to freerepublic where you belong
#39. To: rob noel, christine, all (#37)
#40. To: OliviaFNewton (#39)
(Edited)
#41. To: robnoel (#40)
Here I compare Obama to Nelson Mandela a noted communist and terrorist who was elected president by and large because of white guilt America likewise is suffering from that same white guilt and because of that deserve what they get......
#42. To: OliviaFNewton (#41)
#43. To: robnoel (#42)
#44. To: OliviaFNewton (#43)
#45. To: robnoel (#44)
You don't get it...let it go!
#46. To: OliviaFNewton (#45)
#47. To: robnoel (#46)
900-313-9443
#48. To: robnoel (#36)
Maybe if you think about it you will understand why I said that....but you being such a dead head it went right over it.....go back to freerepublic where you belong
#49. To: OliviaFNewton (#41)
You still promote a marxist,
#50. To: Dakmar (#30)
#51. To: tom007 (#49)
And the good Republicans just gave Billions of money to Wall Street. That you and our children will be on the debt hook for many years.
#52. To: robnoel (#46)
Heres the number call anytime I don't screen calls you better brush up on your history and the constitution first don't want to embarrass you .... On-Air Call-in Number 800-313-9443
#53. To: tom007 (#49)
And the good Republicans just gave Billions of money to Wall Street. That you and our children will be on the debt hook for many years.
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