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Title: The world has never seen such freezing heat
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URL Source: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/opinion/ ... /opinion/2008/11/16/do1610.xml
Published: Nov 16, 2008
Author: Christopher Booker
Post Date: 2008-11-16 08:29:29 by Disgusted
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Views: 289
Comments: 28
A surreal scientific blunder last week raised a huge question mark about the temperature records that underpin the worldwide alarm over global warming. On Monday, Nasa's Goddard Institute for Space Studies (GISS), which is run by Al Gore's chief scientific ally, Dr James Hansen, and is one of four bodies responsible for monitoring global temperatures, announced that last month was the hottest October on record. This was startling. Across the world there were reports of unseasonal snow and plummeting temperatures last month, from the American Great Plains to China, and from the Alps to New Zealand. China's official news agency reported that Tibet had suffered its "worst snowstorm ever". In the US, the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration registered 63 local snowfall records and 115 lowest-ever temperatures for the month, and ranked it as only the 70th-warmest October in 114 years. So what explained the anomaly? GISS's computerised temperature maps seemed to show readings across a large part of Russia had been up to 10 degrees higher than normal. But when expert readers of the two leading warming-sceptic blogs, Watts Up With That and Climate Audit, began detailed analysis of the GISS data they made an astonishing discovery. The reason for the freak figures was that scores of temperature records from Russia and elsewhere were not based on October readings at all. Figures from the previous month had simply been carried over and repeated two months running. EU facing revolt over climate change target enforcement EU plans new energy deals Himalayan glaciers 'could disappear completely by 2035' The error was so glaring that when it was reported on the two blogs - run by the US meteorologist Anthony Watts and Steve McIntyre, the Canadian computer analyst who won fame for his expert debunking of the notorious "hockey stick" graph - GISS began hastily revising its figures. This only made the confusion worse because, to compensate for the lowered temperatures in Russia, GISS claimed to have discovered a new "hotspot" in the Arctic - in a month when satellite images were showing Arctic sea-ice recovering so fast from its summer melt that three weeks ago it was 30 per cent more extensive than at the same time last year. A GISS spokesman lamely explained that the reason for the error in the Russian figures was that they were obtained from another body, and that GISS did not have resources to exercise proper quality control over the data it was supplied with. This is an astonishing admission: the figures published by Dr Hansen's institute are not only one of the four data sets that the UN's Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) relies on to promote its case for global warming, but they are the most widely quoted, since they consistently show higher temperatures than the others. If there is one scientist more responsible than any other for the alarm over global warming it is Dr Hansen, who set the whole scare in train back in 1988 with his testimony to a US Senate committee chaired by Al Gore. Again and again, Dr Hansen has been to the fore in making extreme claims over the dangers of climate change. (He was recently in the news here for supporting the Greenpeace activists acquitted of criminally damaging a coal-fired power station in Kent, on the grounds that the harm done to the planet by a new power station would far outweigh any damage they had done themselves.) Yet last week's latest episode is far from the first time Dr Hansen's methodology has been called in question. In 2007 he was forced by Mr Watts and Mr McIntyre to revise his published figures for US surface temperatures, to show that the hottest decade of the 20th century was not the 1990s, as he had claimed, but the 1930s. Another of his close allies is Dr Rajendra Pachauri, chairman of the IPCC, who recently startled a university audience in Australia by claiming that global temperatures have recently been rising "very much faster" than ever, in front of a graph showing them rising sharply in the past decade. In fact, as many of his audience were aware, they have not been rising in recent years and since 2007 have dropped. Dr Pachauri, a former railway engineer with no qualifications in climate science, may believe what Dr Hansen tells him. But whether, on the basis of such evidence, it is wise for the world's governments to embark on some of the most costly economic measures ever proposed, to remedy a problem which may actually not exist, is a question which should give us all pause for thought.
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#1. To: Disgusted (#0)
We had about an inch of that "global warming" here where I live in October (southern part of the US). First measurable snow in October that anyone around here remembers, or so they say. I certainly don't remember it ever snowing that early before.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. My AC ran the least this year of any I can recall.
It is a pretty rare day here when you really need AC. I doubt more than ten days to two weeks most summers. Most of the local people probably don't even have it in their homes.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. Anthony Watts has a great article about this on his blog. Lots of graphs and data. GISS, NOAA, GHCN and the odd Russian temperature anomaly - “It’s all pipes!”
There is a reason for that. I see a very small area above normal.
LOL! Yeah there seemed to be a pocket of hot air around the DC area.
"Swamp gas"......hehehehehehehehe
LOL! *wiping coffee off keyboard*
I could have been MORE specific but declined to do so.
If they are not up to the task of checking the bilge they put out and expect everyone to accept as 'gospel', they shouldn't be in the business!!! Hansen and his fwiends seem to be as expert at global warming was PRofessor Paul Erhlich was to warming/freezing and population! Bah! Bad! Bastids!
I dunno what state you're in, but I live in Idaho--in the Rocky Mountain region, and we don't have snow in our 4200 ft. elevated valley! We've not had snow yet, though the mountains around us have it on the tops and a little ways down the mountain sides. At 10:20, I'm showing the temp is 29 degrees, but I was able to go out to feed the outside cats an hour and a half ago with houseslippers on the feet an a loosely woven cardigan sweater. I always hang out there for a bit petting and talking with them so they remain friendly.
I had ten inches of warming myself near Albany, NY.
I shall not vote for evil, lesser or otherwise. While I don't have air conditioning, Cyni, I do have ceiling fans in the bedroom and living room. For several summers I've had to keep the bedroom fan going on high all the time. Not so, this year.......at most, it was only turned on for 2 - 3 days. Just wasn't necessary, as it was very comfortable sleeping without it. And in the previous umteen years, I've had a large floor fan, pretty powerful, in the dining area that I turn on to move air--affects the kitchen, dining, office, and on into the living room. I didn't have to turn it on a single time this year. I do have and did use several times a small room fan that I set up high off the floor to move the air around as I can't stand 'dead air'.
I suspect you will have it soon enough. The elevation where I live is very close to the same as yours but a lot farther south (and east). They had an article about it in the paper and said that the "old timers" still living didn't remember it ever snowing in October--but a great uncle told me a long time ago before he died that he had seen it snow here every month in the year iirc. I know for sure that I have never seen a measurable amount of snow here in October before this year.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. But how can it be? Algore said we were all going to die from the heat, didn't he?
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. LOL---I am living under NO illusions about it passing us by--either this year or any other, for that matter! The first year we owned the ranch in Montana, it started snowing October 31st and virtually didn't stop piling it on until the lst of February. Our friend, Mike, had a weather station and reported his markings daily to the weather service; and during that period of time, we had 120 inches of that white stuff dumped on us. It would snow, pack down, snow, pack down, snow, pack down. We kept digging a path out to our chicken yard/house to take water and food out and to collect eggs daily. When it was bout 4' high on the sides of the path, we quit doing that silly crap, and just walked on the top of the snow, over the fence around the chicken yard, and stepped down into the chicken house! That is a year I will NEVER forget. It was our first winter there. Every winter when that old joke flies around the internet about the yuppie couple who move to snow country just love it--at the start--and wind up dead and in the nut house at the end makes sure I don't forget that winter!!! We weren't yuppies , but were from SoCal........
Yes, I understand that the winters in Montana can be pretty brutal. The fact that the state is so sparsely populated probably makes up for a lot of that though--I think that if my brother got a chance to move somewhere like that where the closest neighbor was at least a mile and probably more like ten miles away he would jump on it.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. There are certainly areas in Montana like that--especially the eastern portion-- lots of wide open spaces. We lived on the western side....thankfully, we didn't get those winds that the eastern part of the state gets (can thank my Grandpa for that as he told us NOT to get on the eastern side of the Continental Divide--he had owned land once upon a time in Colorado and HE knew). But it doesn't take much to get away from any city--seconds at times. :) I loved Montana and would still be there on the ranch was my husband still alive. But it just wasn't the same without the soulmate.
The only times I was ever in Texas it seemed a lot like that too. Not that they don't have big cities, Houston is HUGE (drove through there one time and wondered if I had entered the twilight zone because it didn't seem to have an end). But it seemed like if you came to a town it was big but as soon as you got out of it there was nothing for miles. And I am sure there are probably a lot of little towns in Texas but I wasn't out exploring the state, just trying to get through it to somewhere else.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. We have lows in the 30s all week (Fahrenheit, not Centrigrade) here near the Texas border. The thermostat reads 73, but that's because of the oak in the cook stove. Where are you?
The U.S. Constitution is no impediment to our form of government.--PJ O'Rourke
We had global warming snow squalls here in central PA. It worked well with the freezing temps and howling winds. It will be in the 20s tonight, unusual for mid Nov.
We have lows in the 30s all week (Fahrenheit, not Centrigrade) here near the Texas border. The thermostat reads 73, but that's because of the oak in the cook stove. Where are you? If you had temps of 30 Centigrade you would be complaining about the heat (at least I would). I live in NC and it has been pretty nice here this fall most of the time but today has been cold and we had some wind snow last night.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. Don't you just love it when some moron is yammerin' about "global warming" and you are up to your butt in snow with a nice gentle breeze out of the North about 40 mph and a temp. of 15 or so?
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. Heh Heh...good thing you're not in Texas where routine summer highs are 40- 45C..and there ain't nothing to stop the north wind but a barbed wire fence. ;)
Law Enforcement Against Prohibition "Corporation: An entity created for the legal protection of its human parasites, whose sole purpose is profit and self-perpetuation." © IndieTx Yeah, I hate hot weather. Went through Phoenix one time when it was 116 degrees and in a truck that didn't have working AC. I have an answer for the people who live out there who tell me "yeah, but it's a dry heat." I tell them that they say that is the kind they have in hell too and I don't want to go there either.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. Yeah, that about covers it.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton
#2. To: James Deffenbach (#1)
#3. To: Cynicom (#2)
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#4. To: Disgusted, *Agriculture-Environment* (#0)
I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies. If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around [the banks] will deprive the people of all property until their children wake-up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered. The issuing power should be taken from the banks and restored to the people, to whom it properly belongs. —Thomas Jefferson, 1802
#5. To: Cynicom, James Deffenbach (#2)
My AC ran the least this year of any I can recall.
I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies. If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around [the banks] will deprive the people of all property until their children wake-up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered. The issuing power should be taken from the banks and restored to the people, to whom it properly belongs. —Thomas Jefferson, 1802
#6. To: farmfriend (#5)
#7. To: Cynicom (#6)
I see a very small area above normal.
I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies. If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around [the banks] will deprive the people of all property until their children wake-up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered. The issuing power should be taken from the banks and restored to the people, to whom it properly belongs. —Thomas Jefferson, 1802
#8. To: farmfriend (#7)
LOL! Yeah there seemed to be a pocket of hot air around the DC area.
#9. To: Cynicom (#8)
"Swamp gas"......hehehehehehehehe
I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies. If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around [the banks] will deprive the people of all property until their children wake-up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered. The issuing power should be taken from the banks and restored to the people, to whom it properly belongs. —Thomas Jefferson, 1802
#10. To: farmfriend (#9)
#11. To: Disgusted (#0)
A GISS spokesman lamely explained that the reason for the error in the Russian figures was that they were obtained from another body, and that GISS did not have resources to exercise proper quality control over the data it was supplied with
#12. To: James Deffenbach (#1)
#13. To: James Deffenbach (#1)
We had about an inch of that "global warming" here where I live in October
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#14. To: Cynicom (#2)
#15. To: rowdee (#12)
I dunno what state you're in, but I live in Idaho--in the Rocky Mountain region, and we don't have snow in our 4200 ft. elevated valley!
Lord Acton
#16. To: Critter (#13)
I had ten inches of warming myself near Albany, NY.
Lord Acton
#17. To: James Deffenbach (#15)
#18. To: rowdee (#17)
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#19. To: James Deffenbach (#18)
#20. To: rowdee (#19)
But it doesn't take much to get away from any city--seconds at times. :)
Lord Acton
#21. To: James Deffenbach (#1)
We had about an inch of that "global warming" here where I live in October (southern part of the US).
#22. To: James Deffenbach (#1)
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#23. To: DeaconBenjamin (#21)
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#24. To: Jethro Tull (#22)
We had global warming snow squalls here in central PA. It worked well with the freezing temps and howling winds. It will be in the 20s tonight, unusual for mid Nov.
Lord Acton
#25. To: James Deffenbach (#23)
If you had temps of 30 Centigrade you would be complaining about the heat (at least I would).
"There is no 'legitimate' Corporation by virtue of its very legal definition and purpose."
-- IndieTx
#26. To: IndieTX (#25)
Heh Heh...good thing you're not in Texas where routine summer highs are 40- 45C..and there ain't nothing to stop the north wind but a barbed wire fence. ;)
Lord Acton
#27. To: James Deffenbach, Jethro Tull, IndieTX (#24)
Don't you just love it when some moron is yammerin' about "global warming" and you are up to your butt in snow with a nice gentle breeze out of the North about 40 mph and a temp. of 15 or so?
I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies. If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around [the banks] will deprive the people of all property until their children wake-up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered. The issuing power should be taken from the banks and restored to the people, to whom it properly belongs. —Thomas Jefferson, 1802
#28. To: farmfriend (#27)
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