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Title: How Clinton-forced Lending to Poor Blacks Brought Down the World Economy
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Published: Nov 16, 2008
Author: Me
Post Date: 2008-11-16 08:57:57 by a vast rightwing conspirator
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Views: 298
Comments: 20

We keep hearing from the cretinoid talk shows, their bottom-feeding pseudo- economist impersonator friends and assorted propagandist ghouls that it was Clinton's and the Democrats' leftist-socialist policies of lending to undeserving Blacks that's responsible for where we are now. So... let's do the math.

Over-generous Assumptions:
- As many as 5 million poor black families, representing HALF of the entire US Black population received affirmative action loans.
- HALF of them defaulted in the past 2 years (not during Clinton's time and not during the first 6 years of Bushism but ALL of them defaulted recently)
- The mortgage values for their subprime, ghetto purchases averaged $100,000 - this is highly exaggerated given that a pre-crisis ghetto mansion could be bought for $30-40k.
- Once they defaulted, the banks could only recover half of the unpaid balance.

So, let's see what loss these Blacks and their enablers are accountable for and how they brought down the world economy.

5,000,000 black families * $100,000 average mortgages * 1/2 of them who defaulted * 1/2 of the value that could not be recovered by banks after foreclosure.

The above is as very generous formula. It is unlikely that 5 million black families received affirmative action subprime loans. It is unlikely that the average amount of those mortgages was $100,000, it is unlikely that half of them defaulted in the past 2 years and it is unlikely that the banks could only recover half of the mortgage amount. But, let's do the math, shall we?

The Excel formula would be:

=5000000*100000*0.5*0.5 and it returns $125,000,000,000 - or $125 billion.

Compare the above to the amounts the Bushists spend in Iraq and Afghanistan and other parts to blow up things and kill people. It's less than one year of stupid 'war on terror'.

Compare the above to the 'stimulus' distributed last summer.

Compare the above to the $700 billion Paulson is playing with currently.

Compare the above with the trillions countries all over the board are dumping unto banks, insurance companies and state-sponsored speculators.

Keep in mind that AIG alone seems to be receiving close to $125 billion in government 'investment', sufficient to cover all the losses that could be attributed to affirmative-action loans made to poor blacks.

Now, let's hear the cretinazis explain how a POSSIBLE (but highly unlikely) loss of up to $125 billion that can be attributed to affirmative action loans to poor Blacks (less than one year worth of Bushist spending in Iraq and comparable to last summer's 'stimulus' or to government's intervention in AIG's affairs) can't be fixed with trillions and trillions of government intervention.

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#11. To: a vast rightwing conspirator, noone222 (#0)

Nimrod;

When discussing the Dusky-Ones, lets limit our discussion to how they helped to collapse the AMERICAN HOUSING MARKET, not the global economy as you suggest.

A significant amount of the mortgage meltdown can be traced back to multiculturalism: government-mandated affirmative-action lending, demographic change, illegal immigration, and the effects of political correctness. See the many FMae-FMac posts that are scattered about this forum. Search under my name since I posted many. As your hero, the Rev. Wright might say; the chickens have finally come home to roost.

About half of all mortgages for blacks and Hispanics are subprime, versus roughly one-sixth for whites. Not surprisingly, the biggest home price collapses have occurred in heavily Hispanic cities such as Las Vegas, Miami, Phoenix, and Los Angeles.

As you know the market isn't depressed in some locations. In lilly white Centre county we're experiencing a boom actually, I have no idea what you're facing being closer to Philly, but it's never good living too close to THEM.

Peace and love and never stop seeking the truth.

PS: noone made an excellent point. Mortgages were packed into derivitives irregardless of their credit rating - triple As were stacked with sub-primes. As the derivatives were sold on the global market, the subs began exploding like dye packs, spoiling the entire "investment." Stick that up your Uncle Remus.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-11-16   14:47:16 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Jethro Tull (#11)

Sorry, I don't have time to address all the issues that you raised and with which I disagree. Only, on the last one: the mortgages were absolutely NOT packaged together, regardless of risk. In fact, there were classes of securitized mortgages and the main criterion WAS 'risk'.

a vast rightwing conspirator  posted on  2008-11-16   15:09:44 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#12)

HERE

Funds and banks around the world have taken hits because they purchased bonds, or risk related to bonds, backed by bad home loans, often bundled into financial instruments called collateralized debt obligations, or C.D.O.’s.

The losses have often surprised the investors, and in some cases the funds and the executives of the banks, who were unaware of the extent of their risks.

The crisis extended as far as the $2.2 trillion money market that finances the day-to-day operations of businesses, as investors wondered whether the underlying assets were sound. “It’s amazing how much ignorance and fear are out there,” said Kevin Davis, a professor of finance at the University of Melbourne.

The confusion about these products lies in part in their complexity. Structured products are pooled assets that have been sliced and diced into ever more smaller, more specialized pieces.

They offered investors higher returns at a time when traditional fixed income, or debt-related products, were producing low returns.

As low interest rates fueled a lending boom to borrowers with weak credit, banks looked for new ways to package those loans, so they could sell more. A central building block to offset the risk was asset-backed securities, which are bonds backed by pools of mortgages or other income-producing assets, like student loans, auto loans, and credit card receivables.

Banks and other financial institutions pooled those asset-backed securities into new units, dividing them up again and issuing securities against them, creating collateralized debt obligations.

The idea took off, with new combinations that were further removed from the original asset. New creations included C.D.O.’s of C.D.O.’s, called C.D.O.- squared. There is even a C.D.O.-cubed.

According to JPMorgan, there are about $1.5 trillion in global collateralized debt obligations, and about $500 billion to $600 billion in structured-finance C.D.O.’s, referring to those made up of bonds backed by subprime mortgages, slightly safer mortgages and commercial mortgage backed securities.

Many of the products have proved to be highly problematic as the underlying assets — the subprime mortgages — have gone bust, revealing dangerous amounts of leverage in the securities that few people could value. As a result, they have become like a potent computer virus, leaving many people fearful that they too will be affected.

“A lot of risk in the subprime asset-backed market is embedded in, and amplified by, C.D.O.’s,” said Rod Dubitsky, head of asset-backed research at Credit Suisse.

Weaknesses in the system were laid bare, including ratings that did not accurately reflect risk and faulty assumptions on how diversified pools with multiple layers of leverage would react.

That in turn spooked investors in other markets, who started selling anything they thought might be risky, from stocks to loans, and in some cases putting their money into cash.

-click on link for part 2

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#16. To: Jethro Tull (#14)

That in turn spooked investors

There ya go ... right there !

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