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Title: What about population control?
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Published: Nov 17, 2008
Author: salemguy
Post Date: 2008-11-17 23:35:10 by salemguy
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Views: 1419
Comments: 127

So I've been looking at comments about Obama's new war plans, not, and something that's been bugging me for a while causes me to post this. I'm curious what you think and what you think we should do, as a freedom forum.

When, with all these crises on climate change, energy, food, water, land use, environment, etc., are we going to address the problem of too many people?

I'm pretty sure we already have too many people. How should we do that?

I think we should have global goals for a population reduction of 50% by 2050, via natural deaths, contraception, and abortion.

How do we get there?

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#27. To: salemguy (#0)

What is your field of expertise? You don't, by chance, teach about butterflies, do you?

rowdee  posted on  2008-11-25   12:21:30 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#70. To: rowdee, mirage, noone222, Old Friend, RickyJ, Lady X, Cynicom, Ferret Mike, Rupert_Pupkin, farmfriend (#27)

We are a species out of control that can't live within it's means and is in danger of killing itself off....

Well, goodness, I guess I've learned how to use this forum. I've been waiting for a while for some intelligent thought, just checking my pings, which seem uniformly to suggest I kiil myself or volunteer to be murdered, or my mother made a mistake (lotta bright shit here, eh?), but I took some time today to poke around, and lo and behold, there is actually some clear perception, even agreement out there!

Sorry it took me so long to figure that out. I don't visit every day. Hope to keep the thread alive, and contribute.

Getting human population under control, using all means - education, contraception, abortion, sterilzation and euthansia - is as important, perhaps more so, as curbing our environmental impacts! The two are intricately related.

For those looking for a framework, and a civil discussion, check this piece of research work out:

http://www.ehponline.org/members/2005/113-9/ehp0113-a00598.pdf (7.3Mb)

For Rowdee, I'm a business project manager most recently into organic soil amendments and biofuels, but I do love butterflies.

And for farmfriend, who said "bad government policy driven by environmentalism" has caused western US water issues, sorry, there really isn't enough water. I grew up in the west and watched the mighty Colorado turn into a saline trickle.

salemguy  posted on  2008-12-15   17:23:32 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#71. To: salemguy (#70)

Getting human population under control, using all means - education, contraception, abortion, sterilzation and euthansia - is as important, perhaps more so, as curbing our environmental impacts! The two are intricately related.

You don't deserve a 'civil discussion'.

You deserve a visit from Grim Reaper followed by a visit from a salt truck.

That's what you deserve oh dark and dangerous soul.

Rotara  posted on  2008-12-15   17:27:10 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#72. To: Rotara (#71)

That's what you deserve oh dark and dangerous soul.

Uh, thanks again for a constructive comment... what is so dark and dangerous about addressing population control?

salemguy  posted on  2008-12-15   17:30:09 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#74. To: salemguy, ALL (#72)

what is so dark and dangerous about addressing population control?

I propose we begin (and end) with every Liberal Socialist de constructionist death cult member in AmeriKa and that we start today.

Rotara  posted on  2008-12-15   17:33:35 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#77. To: Rotara (#74)

I propose we begin (and end) with every Liberal Socialist de constructionist death cult member in AmeriKa and that we start today

What's your problem with answering questions?

salemguy  posted on  2008-12-15   18:10:24 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#78. To: salemguy (#77)

What is it about you sick mother fuckers - you don't deserve debate, consideration or even oxygen.

Do you understand now ?

Rotara  posted on  2008-12-15   18:41:39 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#84. To: all, Rotara, christine, salemguy, farmfriend (#78)

You know, really, you are just flat wrong in trying to bombastically try to prevent civil debate on any issue, story or discussion merely because you disagree.

You are still only a human being, not the overiding authority of this universe. Your opinion deserves respect, and so does that of everyone else. If you want respect, try reciprocating please.

Population control by natural attrition is the same thing as learning to live within the carrying capacity of the budget of what resources and space is availible on spaceship Earth, and to express concern we are over extending out carrying capacity is a legitamate discussion, so why don't you calm down and stop being such a blood thirty harpy every damn time you disagreee with someone.

With all due respect, you don't have to be such a pain in the neck, and besides, the mission statement of the forum is a free speech one. So really, it would behoove you to remember that and to lighten up.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2008-12-16   13:58:26 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#85. To: ferret mike (#84)

You're so twisted you believe you support the united States Constitution.

Rotara  posted on  2008-12-16   14:00:09 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#91. To: Rotara (#85)

You are so twisted, you have zero, nada, zip idea about the fact this is a free speech forum. You are abusive and violently disposed toward those expressing opinions you do no0t like.

Thid is Freedom4UM.com, not suck Rotara off until he smiles dot com, buttfuck.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2008-12-16   23:37:26 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#92. To: ferret mike (#91)

America can't afford you Traitors anymore.

Rotara  posted on  2008-12-17   0:36:33 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#93. To: Rotara (#92)

Translation: America can't afford a diversity of opinion and everyone much operate lockstep with you, or else.

My thoughts, you are way wrong, we all still have to listen and weigh what we all think about things and work out solutions, because that is what the Constitution is all about, the checks and balances involved with different power groups and factions problem solving andn working things out.

You need to grow up, and while I don't ever like being that blunt, or as blunt as the last post to you, you are just so out of line, so humorles and intolerent, you have thrown the babt out with the bathwater.

You need to re-assess your manner of thinking about what free speech is and what the Constitution and founder intent is all about.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2008-12-17   13:26:27 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#94. To: ferret mike (#93)

Translation: America was destroyed by people like you NeoCommies and your Fellow Traveling NeoCons.

I'm not apart of your delusional suicide pact.

I'd just as soon do this in a bar with my bare hands and a pool stick, frankly.

But you simply aren't worth it.

Rotara  posted on  2008-12-17   13:29:45 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#105. To: Rotara (#94)

I'd just as soon do this in a bar with my bare hands and a pool stick, frankly.

How's that Brown Shirt of yours?

Fits well.

tom007  posted on  2008-12-18   9:33:21 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#106. To: tom007 (#105)

How's that Brown Shirt of yours?

Fits well.

How is that Obama shit taste? Its all over your face.

Old Friend  posted on  2008-12-18   10:28:19 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#107. To: Old Friend (#106)

Hummm. Your "christianity" is showing.

tom007  posted on  2008-12-18   10:53:23 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#108. To: tom007 (#107)

Just speaking the truth about your face figuratively up Obamas asshole. You don't even know what a christian is. You ran like a coward after I asked you what was unbiblical about owninng and shooting a gun. Ran like the cowards you Obama brown noses are.

Old Friend  posted on  2008-12-18   10:55:54 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#109. To: Old Friend (#108)

You ran like a coward after I asked you what was unbiblical about owninng and shooting a gun.

Or maybe I didn't want to waste my time with a foul mouthed fool.

tom007  posted on  2008-12-18   11:00:54 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#110. To: tom007 (#109)

You are talking to me now. So that wouldn't be the case. Leaving only the option of you being a coward or unable to defend your position with facts.

Also someone such as yourself lecturing ANYONE on morals is absurd. You support a man that supports murdering babies born and unborn. There is nothing more immoral then that. So that puts you lower then a rats dick.

Old Friend  posted on  2008-12-18 11:24:21 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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