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Title: What about population control?
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Published: Nov 17, 2008
Author: salemguy
Post Date: 2008-11-17 23:35:10 by salemguy
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Views: 1487
Comments: 127

So I've been looking at comments about Obama's new war plans, not, and something that's been bugging me for a while causes me to post this. I'm curious what you think and what you think we should do, as a freedom forum.

When, with all these crises on climate change, energy, food, water, land use, environment, etc., are we going to address the problem of too many people?

I'm pretty sure we already have too many people. How should we do that?

I think we should have global goals for a population reduction of 50% by 2050, via natural deaths, contraception, and abortion.

How do we get there?

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#87. To: salemguy (#70)

I'm a business project manager most recently into organic soil amendments and biofuels

You can easily be replaced. Now go kill yourself for the good of humanity.

Old Friend  posted on  2008-12-16   14:20:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#88. To: salemguy (#70)

there really isn't enough water

Another reason to consider suicide.

Old Friend  posted on  2008-12-16   14:21:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#89. To: Old Friend (#88)

if these two are all that concerned about 'carrying capacity' and whatnot why aren't they in favor of deporting illegals and limiting immigration??

Lady X  posted on  2008-12-16   14:33:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#90. To: Lady X (#89)

Maybe they think whites should only be in Europe and the rest of us should be dead.

Old Friend  posted on  2008-12-16   14:45:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#91. To: Rotara (#85)

You are so twisted, you have zero, nada, zip idea about the fact this is a free speech forum. You are abusive and violently disposed toward those expressing opinions you do no0t like.

Thid is Freedom4UM.com, not suck Rotara off until he smiles dot com, buttfuck.


"You only have power over people so long as you don't take everything away from them. But when you've robbed a man of everything he's no longer in your power -- he's free again. Alexander Solzhenitsyn

Ferret Mike  posted on  2008-12-16   23:37:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#92. To: ferret mike (#91)

America can't afford you Traitors anymore.

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2008-12-17   0:36:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#93. To: Rotara (#92)

Translation: America can't afford a diversity of opinion and everyone much operate lockstep with you, or else.

My thoughts, you are way wrong, we all still have to listen and weigh what we all think about things and work out solutions, because that is what the Constitution is all about, the checks and balances involved with different power groups and factions problem solving andn working things out.

You need to grow up, and while I don't ever like being that blunt, or as blunt as the last post to you, you are just so out of line, so humorles and intolerent, you have thrown the babt out with the bathwater.

You need to re-assess your manner of thinking about what free speech is and what the Constitution and founder intent is all about.


"You only have power over people so long as you don't take everything away from them. But when you've robbed a man of everything he's no longer in your power -- he's free again. Alexander Solzhenitsyn

Ferret Mike  posted on  2008-12-17   13:26:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#94. To: ferret mike (#93)

Translation: America was destroyed by people like you NeoCommies and your Fellow Traveling NeoCons.

I'm not apart of your delusional suicide pact.

I'd just as soon do this in a bar with my bare hands and a pool stick, frankly.

But you simply aren't worth it.

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2008-12-17   13:29:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#95. To: salemguy (#72) (Edited)

Uh, thanks again for a constructive comment... what is so dark and dangerous about addressing population control?

I see nothing wrong with zero population growth in developed countries. It's a a natural response to greater wealth, better health, and more leisure time. I also think that the population densities we have now in the US are optimal for maintaining the quality of life that we enjoy.

That doesn't mean that I support government social engineering programs that try to ENFORCE zero population growth. Would you really like to live in a society like China where the government tells you how many children you can have?

If you want to see less population growth, go and help build societies around the world where people voluntarily have fewer children because they have a higher standard of living and long life expectancies. And while you're at it, work to do something about unrestricted third world immigration into first world countries, which is our main source of population growth.

Rupert_Pupkin  posted on  2008-12-17   15:41:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#96. To: Rupert_Pupkin (#95)

If you want to see less population growth, go and help build societies around the world where people voluntarily have fewer children because they have a higher standard of living and long life expectancies. And while you're at it, work to do something about unrestricted third world immigration into first world countries, which is our main source of population growth.

Amen to that.

Iran Truth Now!

Lod  posted on  2008-12-17   16:09:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#97. To: lodwick, Ferret Mike (#96)

If you want to see less population growth, go and help build societies around the world where people voluntarily have fewer children because they have a higher standard of living and long life expectancies. And while you're at it, work to do something about unrestricted third world immigration into first world countries, which is our main source of population growth.

Amen to that.

Lodwick. Why would you Amen that? God said to be fruitful and FILL the earth. There is no reason for the faithful to panic about some imaginary overpopulation crisis. The crisis is in human interaction and how we treat each other.

Old Friend  posted on  2008-12-17   19:21:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#98. To: salemguy (#0)

Just the term and very idea of ''population control'' is an idea rooted from satan himself. God said to be fruitful and multiply and no one has a right to subvert God's creation and supress natural law. Google Webster Tarpley's chapter RUBBERS GOES TO CONGRESS, from his book THE UNAUTHORIZED BIOGRAPHY OF GEORGE H W BUSH. tarpley outlines bush senior's long history of advocating population control worldwide. A great read, available free online.

Glory to God in the highest, and Peace to His people on Earth.
"I don't know where Bin Laden is. I truly am not that concerned about him"
George W, Bush, 3/13/02 http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2002/03/20020313-8.html

Artisan  posted on  2008-12-17   19:27:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#99. To: Old Friend (#97)

great post.

Glory to God in the highest, and Peace to His people on Earth.
"I don't know where Bin Laden is. I truly am not that concerned about him"
George W, Bush, 3/13/02 http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2002/03/20020313-8.html

Artisan  posted on  2008-12-17   19:28:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#100. To: Old Friend (#97)

The crisis is in human interaction and how we treat each other.

Amen to that.

From my humble perspective, we have filled the earth, to overflowing.

Who knows what God meant on this one.

People everywhere seem to be trying their level best to reduce the populace...

Iran Truth Now!

Lod  posted on  2008-12-17   21:51:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#101. To: lodwick (#100)

It's designed to work for a people that embrace and love their Creator, as He loves them.

It's all fouled up now. Wickedness once again rules the day until all accounts are settled in full.

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2008-12-17   21:54:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#102. To: Rupert_Pupkin (#95) (Edited)

And while you're at it, work to do something about unrestricted third world immigration into first world countries, which is our main source of population growth.

But you forget: governement exists specifically because it rewards bad behaviour by tilting the playing field against the "governed", the productive, the workers.

and that ukraine's always on my my my mind.

And they write innumerable books; being too vain and distracted for silence: seeking every one after his own elevation, and dodging his emptiness. - T. S. Eliot

Dakmar  posted on  2008-12-17   22:02:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#103. To: lodwick (#100)

Isn't there a verse somewhere about the end. Where it was mentioned by angels or something that the earth was full and the harvest was ready and that was in the end times?

Old Friend  posted on  2008-12-17   22:04:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#104. To: Rotara (#94)

You sure talk alot, woman. You like that black belt in gumming, don't you?

Cowardness is always justified with the old saw of the culture of cowards, "you are not worth it."

Translation: you are all talk, no walk.


"You only have power over people so long as you don't take everything away from them. But when you've robbed a man of everything he's no longer in your power -- he's free again. Alexander Solzhenitsyn

Ferret Mike  posted on  2008-12-18   9:16:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#105. To: Rotara (#94)

I'd just as soon do this in a bar with my bare hands and a pool stick, frankly.

How's that Brown Shirt of yours?

Fits well.

"Satan / Cheney in "08" Just Foreign Policy Iraqi Death Estimator

tom007  posted on  2008-12-18   9:33:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#106. To: tom007 (#105)

How's that Brown Shirt of yours?

Fits well.

How is that Obama shit taste? Its all over your face.

Old Friend  posted on  2008-12-18   10:28:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#107. To: Old Friend (#106)

Hummm. Your "christianity" is showing.

"Satan / Cheney in "08" Just Foreign Policy Iraqi Death Estimator

tom007  posted on  2008-12-18   10:53:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#108. To: tom007 (#107)

Just speaking the truth about your face figuratively up Obamas asshole. You don't even know what a christian is. You ran like a coward after I asked you what was unbiblical about owninng and shooting a gun. Ran like the cowards you Obama brown noses are.

Old Friend  posted on  2008-12-18   10:55:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#109. To: Old Friend (#108)

You ran like a coward after I asked you what was unbiblical about owninng and shooting a gun.

Or maybe I didn't want to waste my time with a foul mouthed fool.

"Satan / Cheney in "08" Just Foreign Policy Iraqi Death Estimator

tom007  posted on  2008-12-18   11:00:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#110. To: tom007 (#109)

You are talking to me now. So that wouldn't be the case. Leaving only the option of you being a coward or unable to defend your position with facts.

Also someone such as yourself lecturing ANYONE on morals is absurd. You support a man that supports murdering babies born and unborn. There is nothing more immoral then that. So that puts you lower then a rats dick.

Old Friend  posted on  2008-12-18   11:24:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#111. To: ferret mike (#104)

I know, you wish you were worth it. But you're not.

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2008-12-18   13:25:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#112. To: tom007 (#105)

How's that Brown Shirt of yours?

Fits well.

I wish we'd terminated the enemy within along time ago and forestalled the corp.gov merger.

Too many dumb sorry motherfuckers call themselves Americans though.

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2008-12-18   13:26:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#113. To: Old Friend (#108)

It seems most of this rabble are metro-bi-homo Liberal twits.

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2008-12-18   13:28:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#114. To: Rotara (#111)

You talk and never listen to other opinions or takes of issues, ideas, or events, and you talk about how someone should die and then claim to be too busy to follow through, or that someone doesn't make your cut in terms of your criteria under the aupices of time management.

This is a discussion forum FOR ALL VIEW POINTS, ASSHOLE.

What part of open forum escapes you, asshole?

You talk shit, and are a sissy and coward for doing so with no intent but to look like a fucking blowfish.

You know where I am, and I am not hard to find. Show up, or shut the fuck up. Got it? Jerk.


"You only have power over people so long as you don't take everything away from them. But when you've robbed a man of everything he's no longer in your power -- he's free again. Alexander Solzhenitsyn

Ferret Mike  posted on  2008-12-18   13:38:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#115. To: ferret mike (#114)

You prattle on more than a Liberal goofy wumin.

I'll do as I please you fucking scumbag Traitor.

GFY, Mike

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2008-12-18   13:39:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#116. To: Rotara, ferret mike (#115)

GFY, Mike

Good For You, Mike.

"Satan / Cheney in "08" Just Foreign Policy Iraqi Death Estimator

tom007  posted on  2008-12-18   14:03:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#117. To: tom007, ferret mike (#116)

Wrong, GO FUCK YOURSELF Traitors.

There ya go little tool.

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2008-12-18   14:06:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#118. To: tom007 (#116)

Old Friend  posted on  2008-12-18   17:36:15 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#119. To: christine, Jethro Tull, Ferret Mike, Rotora, Tom007, Fred Mertz, Jhoffa_, (#118) (Edited)

So it is ok to call Bush a monkey or a chimp but not Obama. Why is that? I should start making Obama monkey doll. I would make a fortune. Im gonna have to look into it. >

Old Friend  posted on  2008-12-18   17:39:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#120. To: Old Friend (#119)

so easy a caveman could do it while high on crack

According the the "Evolutionary Theories", they got it pretty much right - no ?

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2008-12-18   18:11:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#121. To: Old Friend (#118)

Glad to know under the Bush Administration there were no abortions.

You are just silly, silly, silly.

"Satan / Cheney in "08" Just Foreign Policy Iraqi Death Estimator

tom007  posted on  2008-12-18   22:50:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#122. To: tom007 (#121)

Glad to know under the Bush Administration there were no abortions.

You are just silly, silly, silly.

Yes there were. Besides I don't support Bush. So what the hell is your stupid point? Because one party does evil another party can do it. That is lame as your vote.

Old Friend  posted on  2008-12-18   23:00:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#123. To: Rotara (#115)

Chicken shit Nazi free speech detesting bastard. Your Mom fucked an asshole into the world.


"You only have power over people so long as you don't take everything away from them. But when you've robbed a man of everything he's no longer in your power -- he's free again. Alexander Solzhenitsyn

Ferret Mike  posted on  2008-12-19   18:30:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#124. To: ferret mike (#123) (Edited)

We all know what your problem is mikey, it's OK..

If you really are a patriot (LOL), then be a man and admit you got snookered by the Feral World Reserve Communist Obamalamadingdong - then let's move on restoring America from the murdering thieves.

If not, just keep it up. Keep shilling with the gun grabbers and promote your Globalist views on Amnesty and lie that you aren't a World Socialist North American Unioner with his lips wrapped around the NWO's johnson.

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2008-12-19   18:41:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#125. To: Rotara (#124)

If you were sane, you would respect the right of others to disagree with you. You are nothing but a pretentious asshole who tries to belittle and bully those with whom you disagree.

As I said, this is an open forum, not a soupbox merely for your opinion.

You are wrong on many things, yet you would pose yourself as error free and the sole possessor of knowledge of all things political or social.

You started this with death threats and attempts to bully. You only get here from me which you ask for.


"You only have power over people so long as you don't take everything away from them. But when you've robbed a man of everything he's no longer in your power -- he's free again. Alexander Solzhenitsyn

Ferret Mike  posted on  2008-12-19   19:48:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#126. To: ferret mike (#125)

I admit when I'm wrong.

Your 'right/wrong' compass either never worked or is broken.

As long as you shill for the Enemy Within, consider yourself MY enemy !

You made your bed.

Now sit in it, stand on it, lie in it - I don't give a s#it.

Traitor

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2008-12-19   21:09:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#127. To: ferret mike (#125)

If you were sane

FOFLOL !!

I can't stop laughing at you.

You, an Amnesty loving - Feral Reserve kosher Black Panther loving - NWO Communist - questioning ANYONE'S sanity !!!!

LOL !!! ~[8*)

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2008-12-19   21:12:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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