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Title: What about population control?
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Published: Nov 17, 2008
Author: salemguy
Post Date: 2008-11-17 23:35:10 by salemguy
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Comments: 127

So I've been looking at comments about Obama's new war plans, not, and something that's been bugging me for a while causes me to post this. I'm curious what you think and what you think we should do, as a freedom forum.

When, with all these crises on climate change, energy, food, water, land use, environment, etc., are we going to address the problem of too many people?

I'm pretty sure we already have too many people. How should we do that?

I think we should have global goals for a population reduction of 50% by 2050, via natural deaths, contraception, and abortion.

How do we get there?

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#7. To: salemguy (#0)

I think we should have global goals for a population reduction of 50% by 2050, via natural deaths, contraception, and abortion.

How do we get there?

How's about we start with you ?

You really should resign from this 4UM because you're too stupid to compete in the market place of ideas ... and I fear for your sanity as you will be beaten to a pulp intellectually by the membership here because they aren't restrained through pc moderators.

noone222  posted on  2008-11-18   5:10:35 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: noone222 (#7)

How's about we start with you ?

You really should resign from this 4UM because you're too stupid to compete in the market place of ideas ... and I fear for your sanity as you will be beaten to a pulp intellectually by the membership here because they aren't restrained through pc moderators.

LMAO! I'm dyin' over here..

Ya'll crack me up..

Lady X  posted on  2008-11-18   9:46:12 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Lady X (#12)

LMAO! I'm dyin' over here..

Ya'll crack me up..

Hey, straighten up.

Notice Salem left out " EUTHANASIA"?????

Cynicom  posted on  2008-11-18   9:52:07 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Cynicom (#13)

Notice Salem left out " EUTHANASIA"?????

Good idea, cynicom. Are you volunteering?

I do live in a state that supports physician-assisted suicide, and I'm glad for that. Euthanasia, realistically and humanely, has been practiced for a long time by doctors and others, so yeah, I think we ought to allow that, too.

A large piece of US medical costs are foolishly spent in the last six months of life. It would save a bundle and relieve a lot of suffering.

Apart from we should all buy guns and shoot each other, anybody have any positive contributions here?

For RickyJ, I'm pretty sure there are already too many people because we are now damaging planetary systems, big time, with no end in sight. People, among animals, have by far the greatest impact on natural resources, and it's clear that our endless growth is not sustainable.

salemguy  posted on  2008-11-18   15:43:25 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: salemguy (#15)

For RickyJ, I'm pretty sure there are already too many people because we are now damaging planetary systems, big time, with no end in sight. People, among animals, have by far the greatest impact on natural resources, and it's clear that our endless growth is not sustainable.

What planetary systems are we damaging?

The overpopulation myth has been going on since the end of WW2. It is a myth or else we wouldn't be letting millions of Mexicans into America to work if we already had too many people.

RickyJ  posted on  2008-11-18   16:03:44 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: RickyJ (#17)

What planetary systems are we damaging?

Huh?

Where have you been for the last few decades? Do you deny global warming, the decimation of northern and southern ice caps? The incredible, omnipresent pollution of the planet? Watersheds everywhere increasingly contaminated? The acidification and warming of ocean waters? The death of coral reefs?

Much of this results from industrial and consumer use of petroleum and petro- chemicals, not directly from overpopulation, but now at over 6 billion, and rising living standards in India and China, only more pressure on ecological systems can be expected... more damage guaranteed.

Globally, we could address this either by ratcheting back on living standards or focusing on fewer people. I think fewer people is a better choice. Otherwise, collapsing ecosystems will see to it, hmm? At that point what is your standard of living worth?

salemguy  posted on  2008-11-24   21:46:03 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: salemguy (#19)

The population problem is the keystone dilemma facing this world. There are way, way too many people on 'spaceship Earth.' We consume so much, there is not enough resources and space for other life forms every bit as valuable and important as our species of primate.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2008-11-24   21:56:34 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: Ferret Mike (#20)

The population problem is the keystone dilemma facing this world. There are way, way too many people on 'spaceship Earth.

The entire earth population can fit in Texas with about 1400 sq ft per person. It is nowhere close to full or overpopulated. Problems with food etc is because of mans wars and greed. Not overpopulation. Anyone who thinks that we are overpopulated needs to kill themself.

Old Friend  posted on  2008-11-24   22:37:31 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: Old Friend (#21)

The entire earth population can fit in Texas with about 1400 sq ft per person

Do you think you'd be able to enjoy the quality of life that you have with a population density that high? For starts, many of the western states have water shortages now. If you had twice the population that the US has today, you can say hello to water rationing over a good part of the country.

Rupert_Pupkin  posted on  2008-11-25   11:36:50 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: Rupert_Pupkin, Old Friend (#26)

For starts, many of the western states have water shortages now. If you had twice the population that the US has today, you can say hello to water rationing over a good part of the country.

Do to bad government policy driven by environmentalism.

farmfriend  posted on  2008-11-25   13:45:27 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: farmfriend (#31)

It's mostly due to morons who live in places like Southern California or Arizona and run their sprinklers 24 hours a day, seven days a week to grow a lawn.

Rupert_Pupkin  posted on  2008-11-25   14:00:37 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: Rupert_Pupkin (#32) (Edited)

It's mostly due to morons who live in places like Southern California or Arizona and run their sprinklers 24 hours a day, seven days a week to grow a lawn.

No it's mostly do to enviros who insist on having water for their yachts like during the Klamath water crisis. Oh they claimed it was for the fish, that didn’t need it btw, but the reality was the guy who set the water levels was commodore of the yacht club and that was the first year they didn't have to pull their boats out. He claimed there still wasn't enough water though the lake was at record levels.

It's due to enviros who want to save an artificial lake at the expense of the farmers who created it, all because birds have managed to take advantage of it.

It's because our forests are overgrown with all those trees sucking up the water supplies causing less runoff and unhealthy forests.

I could go on but I won't.

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