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Title: Obama advisers: Bush era war criminals will walk
Source: Rawstory
URL Source: http://rawstory.com/news/2008/Obama ... t_prosecure_Bush_war_1117.html
Published: Nov 18, 2008
Author: Stephen C. Webster
Post Date: 2008-11-18 01:06:51 by Jhoffa_
Keywords: None
Views: 257
Comments: 17

Obama advisers: Bush era war criminals will walk

Even as President-elect Obama vowed "to regain America's moral stature in the world" during Sunday's 60 Minutes appearance, two of his senior advisers confessed there is no intent to pursue those in the Bush administration who engaged in torture, a war crime.

Speaking on condition of anonymity to the Associated Press, the advisers said that the plan is to put a stop to current interrogation methods and to "look forward" as opposed to focusing on prior transgressions.

The Obama campaign did not offer a response before the report was published.

Human Rights Watch, a non-profit watchdog group, is lobbying the President-elect for fast action on the abuses of the Bush era.

"For far too long, the United States has undermined its ability to fight terror by adopting short-sighted policies that allowed torture and indefinite detention without charge," said Kenneth Roth, executive director of Human Rights Watch, in a Sunday release. "The United States urgently needs President-elect Obama to live up to his commitment to right the wrongs of the last seven years, and to regain the moral high ground in the fight against terrorism."

The group is pushing for Obama to bring Guantanamo detainees into the United States court system, and admit released prisoners into the country if it is feared they may be subject to torture upon returning home. They are also calling for an executive order to require the CIA to follow the US military's interrogation rules, and the establishment of an investigatory "truth commission" with subpoena power to enforce standing laws against US war criminals.

However, if the top candidate for Obama's Central Intelligence Agency is any indication, the activists may soon be disappointed. The Atlantic's Andrew Sullivan, citing a report by Mark Ambinder that Obama is close to appointing John Brennon, who served under former CIA Director George Tenet, Sullivan decried it as, "change we cannot believe in."

"Appointing Brennan to the CIA does not mean change from Bush," he wrote. "That was absolutely a critical part of Obama's message. With Brennan, we get the taint of a Bush and two-facedness of a Clinton. We need to say goodbye to all that, not perpetuate its double-speak."

Tenet was director of the agency when it was admitted that several prisoners were subjected to waterboarding: a form of torture that simulates the experience of drowning.

"[Obama believes] torture not be allowed in any form or fashion in any part of the federal government, and he would make sure that was the case," said Brennan to CQ Politics. "Whether the Army field manual is comprehensive enough to cover all those tactics and techniques, that’s something I think he’d look to his national security advisers for."

Blogger and filmmaker Glenn Greenwald is skeptical too.

"Brennan has been and continues to be an extremely important adviser for Obama on intelligence issues," he wrote. "His views on past administration conduct are, in many important instances, clearly disturbing and bear watching."

Alleged 9/11 'mastermind' Khalid Sheikh Mohammed is one such prisoner that was admittedly tortured. The American Civil Liberties Union warned Monday that Bush may try to "sabotage" Obama by "ramming through" the Mohammed tribunal. On Saturday it was also revealed that senior intelligence officials are lobbying President Bush to preemptively pardon intelligence agents who committed war crimes: an unprecedented act.

Nevertheless, one campaign meme -- "hope" -- has yet to flicker out for human rights activists.

"We are confident that consistent with his message of change, his actions and his criticism, he is going to repudiate the abusive counterterrorism policies of the Bush administration," Joanne Mariner with Human Rights Watch told IPS News.


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#1. To: Jhoffa_ (#0)

...his senior advisers confessed there is no intent to pursue those in the Bush administration who engaged in torture, a war crime.

I wouldn't expect ANY action following the precedent set during the Clinton administration.

From Human Rights Watch 1999:

"Let me turn to our evaluation of U.S. policy on human rights.

The Clinton administration's efforts to promote human rights around the world were subject to large blind spots. Major parts of the globe never made it onto the administration's human rights agenda.

The administration did best with the pariah countries -- Burma, Belarus, Sierra Leone, Sudan. It also performed well on some more pivotal countries, such as Croatia, Malaysia, Algeria, and Indonesia.

In some countries, the administration's record was mixed. It waited far too long as Yugoslav forces battered ethnic Albanian civilians in Kosovo. But then, it brought NATO military pressure to bear until Yugoslav President Milosevic agreed, at least for the time being, to stop the attacks, withdraw some troops, and permit international monitoring. In Bosnia, U.S. troops helped NATO to arrest lesser war crimes suspects but, to our continuing disappointment, not the leaders of the genocide.

In Colombia, the administration openly acknowledged the close working relationship between the army and murderous paramilitary forces. But the new U.S. ambassador has been silent on human rights. And the administration implemented half-heartedly and with no transparency the Leahy Amendment which requires it to withhold assistance from forces involved in abuse until they bring those responsible to justice.

In Cuba, while ostensibly concerned about human rights, the U.S. government pursued an embargo that itself violated the rights to freedom of expression and movement. Moreover, by adopting an all-or-nothing approach to President Fidel Castro's continuing rule, Washington provided little incentive for him to ease repression of civil society.

In China, the administration helped to enhance dialogue about human rights; to convince the government to sign a key human rights treaty; to secure the release of a handful of prisoners; and to gain permission for President Clinton, during his visit to the country, to speak to the public about human rights. It also pushed, albeit unsuccessfully, for more systematic changes. But the administration had no plan, other than waiting for China to change on its own, for helping to move beyond promises and dialogue to systematic change. Washington gave up two powerful sources of leverage--human rights preconditions to President Clinton's much-sought trip to China, and efforts to secure a resolution critical of China before the U.N. Commission on Human Rights-- without developing any alternative way to keep the pressure on. We've seen the results of China's empty promises to respect human rights in its arrest this week of Xu Wenli and his allies for trying to form an independent political party.

Vast swaths of the globe were largely exempt from U.S. pressure on human rights. These included most of Central Asia and the Middle East, where oil interests stood in the way of strong human rights advocacy.

In Africa, the United States favored strategic alliances with new leaders to paying attention to their human rights problems. The administration remained publicly silent about severe government abuses in Rwanda and the Congo as well as abuses by the Sudan People's Liberation Army. And President Clinton seemed to lower the bar in assessing Uganda's and Nigeria's lack of democracy.

This inconsistency in U.S. support for human rights, and the frequent subordination of human rights to so many other interests, threatens to weaken what should be a strong voice for the human rights cause.

The Clinton administration also continued to refuse to accept an unconditional ban on anti-personnel landmines. And it continued to obstruct efforts to ban the use of children under 18 years of age as soldiers."

Source: www.hrw.org/en/node/68527

“The best and first guarantor of our neutrality and our independent existence is the defensive will of the people…and the proverbial marksmanship of the Swiss shooter. Each soldier a good marksman! Each shot a hit!”
-Schweizerische Schuetzenzeitung (Swiss Shooting Federation) April, 1941

X-15  posted on  2008-11-18   1:22:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: TwentyTwelve, christine, Wudidiz, Peppa, Indrid Cold, Pinguinite, Kamala, Rotara, James Deffenbach, scrapper2, FormerLurker, all (#0)

(((((Gosh, I'm so Shocked Ping.)))))

"The difference between an honorable man and a moral man is that an honorable man regrets a discreditable act even when it has worked and he is in no danger of being caught." ~ H. L. Mencken

Original_Intent  posted on  2008-11-18   1:40:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Ferret Mike, aristeides, Tom007, A Vast Right Wing Conspirator, All (#2)

(((((Obamanation Ping)))))

"The difference between an honorable man and a moral man is that an honorable man regrets a discreditable act even when it has worked and he is in no danger of being caught." ~ H. L. Mencken

Original_Intent  posted on  2008-11-18   1:43:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Original_Intent (#2)

Ja mehr betäubend Nachrichten von der neuen Welt von Amerika kommunistischer Herrscher.

Selbstverständlich kennt mein Sarkasmus keine Grenze.

Beendigen Sie die Kommunisten  posted on  2008-11-18   1:49:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Original_Intent, all (#2) (Edited)

I imagine they'll get theirs soon enough anyway. - wudidiz

mysticmessages  posted on  2008-11-18   2:04:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Beendigen Sie die Kommunisten, Original_Intent (#4)

Yes more deafening news of the new world of America of communist rulers.

Naturally my Sarkasmus knows no border.

~ Finish the Communists


"It is like a trance. So what can break a trance? The only thing that can break the trance is the light of truth."
~ Canadian Philosopher John McMurtry as he comments on the psychological warfare that has afflicted us all

wudidiz  posted on  2008-11-18   2:15:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: wudidiz (#6)

CLAPPING SEAL (bitch) ... female clapping seal, easily trained to bomb babies, torture and cause collateral damage !

Where's your birth certificate Barack ?

noone222  posted on  2008-11-18   2:50:48 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: wudidiz (#6)

Ich entschuldige mich für nicht kennend Englisch. Ich habe entschieden, sich auf mein Spanisch zu konzentrieren, hoffend dass jemand hier Deutsche gesprochen hat. Vielen Dank für Übersetzen.

Beendigen Sie die Kommunisten  posted on  2008-11-18   2:57:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: noone222 (#7)

(bitch)

Weibchen in der Tat

Beendigen Sie die Kommunisten  posted on  2008-11-18   3:00:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: noone222 (#7)

This is funny.


"It is like a trance. So what can break a trance? The only thing that can break the trance is the light of truth."
~ Canadian Philosopher John McMurtry as he comments on the psychological warfare that has afflicted us all

wudidiz  posted on  2008-11-18   3:08:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Beendigen Sie die Kommunisten (#8)

Sie sind willkommen.


"It is like a trance. So what can break a trance? The only thing that can break the trance is the light of truth."
~ Canadian Philosopher John McMurtry as he comments on the psychological warfare that has afflicted us all

wudidiz  posted on  2008-11-18   3:10:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: wudidiz (#11)

Dank

Beendigen Sie die Kommunisten  posted on  2008-11-18   3:13:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Jhoffa_ (#0)

"We are confident that consistent with his message of change, his actions and his criticism, he is going to repudiate the abusive counterterrorism policies of the Bush administration," Joanne Mariner with Human Rights Watch told IPS News.

Oh well, that makes it alright then. The Obamasiah is going to repudiate Bush's abuse of human rights. I bet he is scared now! Pfttttttttttttttttttt!!!

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2008-11-18   8:29:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Original_Intent (#3)

(((((Obamanation Ping)))))

Wasted effort.

policestateusa.net/

PSUSA  posted on  2008-11-18   8:32:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Original_Intent (#2)

(((((Gosh, I'm so Shocked Ping.)))))

Yeah, me too. I just don't know how many of these "surprises" I can handle.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2008-11-18   8:54:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Beendigen Sie die Kommunisten, wudidiz (#11)

Sie sind willkommen.

Wo sind Sie geboren?

TwentyTwelve  posted on  2008-11-20   13:20:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: TwentyTwelve (#16)

Baden-Württemberg

"Not the victory but the action; Not the goal but the game; In the deed the glory" Dies ist gut

Beendigen Sie die Kommunisten  posted on  2008-11-20   18:15:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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