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Title: Rising for the judge, bowing to the state
Source:
Lew Rockwell
URL Source: http://www.lewrockwell.com/lora/m.lora57.html
Published: Nov 18, 2008
Author: Manuel Lora
Post Date: 2008-11-18 06:24:06 by Ada
Keywords: None
Views: 354
Comments: 21
When one walks into a business, most often you are greeted. As part of treating customers as their very livelihood, companies usually enact policies that make it a requirement for employees to acknowledge the arrival of a client or customer. Imagine, however, if instead of getting a "hello" or "good morning," the manager of the store asks you to greet him. Further, imagine if the manager holds you at gunpoint and threatens you with imprisonment. Assuming you could escape, chances are that you’d never go back to that store. Yet this is what happens in the courts. Virtually everyone in the courtroom has to rise when the judge enters. Failure to do so might result in contempt of court – you can get a fine or be sentenced to jail time for your audacity. This is, of course, absurd. First of all, government courts are financed through taxation. People who do not use the system at all, for example, still have to pay. This is a form of redistribution, also known as socialism. Aside from the fact that the resources to run the system are extracted aggressively, often the accused are victims rather than victimizers. Laws and ordinances regulating peaceful drug or firearm possession or usage, municipal codes regulating assembly, zoning, prostitution and gambling, for example, violate no rights and therefore have no victims. Thus, when an innocent person is brought (violently or through the threat thereof) to one of those government courts, the last thing one expects is to be further humiliated by having to stand for the judge. If anything, the judge should be kissing the defendant’s feet and begging for forgiveness. We should not be surprised that the state does whatever possible to ascertain its aggressive political power in every instance; the courtroom is not an exception. Perhaps in the old days it was customary to rise for the judge. So what? Today, however, I see this not as a gesture of respect but as a demand for obedience. The judge, a state bureaucrat, has no authority over anyone. Prove that the judge and the court deserve any respect. After all, they were the ones (along with the legislative and executive branches) to kidnap people from their homes, families and places of employment, only to be dragged to face "justice." Show that, especially in the case of victimless crimes, the defendant should stand for the judge. The concept of contempt of court, so long as the state holds a monopoly over this institution, is a farce. I believe it is the court, along with all the thugs it employs, who is in contempt. Anyone willing to show the violence of the court by refusing to obey is a hero. Rising for the judge is bowing to the state.
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#1. To: Ada (#0)
I was watching a movie one time and iirc Clint Eastwood was in it. He had been brought into court for something and at one point the "judge" asked if he was showing contempt for "the court." And whoever the guy was told him, no, that he was trying his best to hide it.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. hehehehehehehe Judges should be the first to walk the plank and into the eternal deep.
Good job, Clint.
The "judges" need to learn a simple lesson that seems to have gone over their heads, at least most of them. Respect is earned, not given blindly. And I have zero respect for someone who DEMANDS to be respected. It doesn't work that way, at least not with me.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. I thought so too.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. It is the same as with the military. Enforcing undue "respect" by regulation, law and muscle. When pressed, those that demand respect always turn to this, "it is respect for the office not the person", which is pure BS. People earn my respect in some fashion and if they screw up, I take it away.
I feel the same way. I can, and try, to be civil to everyone but that is not the same as blindly respecting them. I neither respect nor trust blindly--that is for very young and very naive people.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. As Churchill said, "I try to be civil to a man, even tho I intend on hanging him the next day".
LOL!
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. This writer is just another example of what is wrong in this country. Showing respect is good manners, something the country has damned near lost. It takes along with it civility and a host of other positives that make the world a better place to live. So what, he says? The dumb ass hasn't lived long enough to remember that society was more civilized not long aqo.....and it isn't getting better, and won't get any better with the likes of him 'in charge'.
Shame on you Cyni! From one who keeps asking for civility!
It isn't him, the individual.......it is justice which is to be respected and is what standing up for represents. Just like the jerk in the wh--I have no respect for him as a person, but I do respect the office of the presidency and what it represents! Thats what makes jerks like him and the big O stink!
I have a nephew that is a Judge, and a bad one. Like all politicians, judges need term limits. This staying on until the grim reaper votes against you is nonsense. Look at the Nine Olde fools.
There IS a difference between an individual human being and a Court of Law, or The Office of the President. Using your logic, Cyni, men should refuse to stand up when a woman enters the room, or offer her a seat, they can spit on her carpet, or anything else that might show respect for a person--and I only use man and woman because its so easy.
And you believe the way to set term limits is to disrespect the office of Judge? Wow--thats impressive. Had we known it was that easy, we could have set term limits way back when! Do ya think just calling one of our senators or representatives a bastard to his face would work seeing as how we, as a society, have never shown them the respect of standing up?
I have respect for the individual, not the office, not the title, not the position. Those are all contrived by people that want status.
Sadly, in our time "Justice is blind" and it is a rare occasion when she finds her way to the inside of a courtroom.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡
"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡
this article is written in responce to this court case. Watch the videos in the link and tell me this judge deserves to be respected. This judge aka gangbanger with a gavel deserves to be run out of town on a rail and his armed bodyguards deserve the same fate. The judge is an example of whats wrong with this cuntry they seem to think we work for them and that they can make us bow down and grovel before thier almighty presence. its suppose to be the exact opposite and until these jackbooted thugs respect the constitution there will not be any respect shown to them period http://freedom4um.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi? ArtNum=90921&Disp=0
http://s5.gladiatus.us/game/c.php?uid=77290 I won't waste my time reading and watching, freepatriot. There's a right way to get the guy removed if he's doing wrong from the bench. No one wants to take a proper course....... I'm not saying the judge is good or bad, right or wrong. Doesn't matter. What does matter is that each generation in 'merika gets worse and worse as it moves along the path to the gutter.
Lord Acton
#2. To: James Deffenbach (#1)
And whoever the guy was told him, no, that he was trying his best to hide it.
#3. To: James Deffenbach (#1)
And whoever the guy was told him, no, that he was trying his best to hide it.
#4. To: Cynicom (#2)
Judges should be the first to walk the plank and into the eternal deep.
Lord Acton
#5. To: lodwick (#3)
Good job, Clint.
Lord Acton
#6. To: James Deffenbach (#4)
And I have zero respect for someone who DEMANDS to be respected. It doesn't work that way, at least not with me.
#7. To: Cynicom (#6)
Lord Acton
#8. To: James Deffenbach (#7)
I feel the same way. I can, and try, to be civil
#9. To: Cynicom (#8)
Lord Acton
#10. To: Ada (#0)
#11. To: Cynicom (#2)
Judges should be the first to walk the plank and into the eternal deep.
#12. To: James Deffenbach (#4)
#13. To: rowdee (#11)
Shame on you Cyni! From one who keeps asking for civility!
#14. To: Cynicom (#6)
#15. To: Cynicom (#13)
Like all politicians, judges need term limits
#16. To: rowdee (#15)
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Do ya think just calling one of our senators or representatives a bastard to his face would work seeing as how we, as a society, have never shown them the respect of standing up?
#17. To: rowdee (#12)
it is justice which is to be respected and is what standing up for represents.
Lord Acton
#18. To: Ada (#0)
#19. To: rowdee (#10)
#20. To: rowdee (#10)
This writer is just another example of what is wrong in this country. Showing respect is good manners, something the country has damned near lost.
#21. To: freepatriot32 (#20)
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