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Title: Obama team questions potential appointees on gun ownership (Would-be appointees quizzed on guns)
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URL Source: http://news.yahoo.com/s/politico/20081120/pl_politico/15835
Published: Nov 21, 2008
Author: Jonathan Martin
Post Date: 2008-11-21 14:35:57 by Beendigen Sie die Kommunisten
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President-elect Barack Obama’s transition team is asking potential appointees detailed questions about gun ownership, and firearms advocates aren’t happy about it. The National Rifle Association has denounced the move, which has already led one Republican senator to consider legislation aimed at ensuring a president can’t use an applicant’s gun ownership status to deny employment. It’s just one question on a lengthy personnel form — No. 59 on a 63-question list — but the furor over the query is a vivid reminder of the intensity of support for Second Amendment rights and signals the scrutiny Obama is likely to receive from the ever-vigilant gun lobby. Obama’s transition team declined to go into detail on why they included the question, suggesting only that it was done to ensure potential appointees were in line with gun laws. “The intent of the gun question is to determine legal permitting,” said one transition aide. But even some Democrats and transition experts are baffled by the inclusion of the question. Tucked in at the end of the questionnaire and listed under “Miscellaneous,” it reads: “Do you or any members of your immediate family own a gun? If so, provide complete ownership and registration information. Has the registration ever lapsed? Please also describe how and by whom it is used and whether it has been the cause of any personal injuries or property damage.” Paul Light, professor of public service at New York University, said there was no such question for potential appointees when President George W. Bush took office in 2000. “It kind of sticks out there like a sore thumb,” Light said. He expressed uncertainty over why it was included but surmised it was out of an abundance of caution, a desire to avoid the spectacle of a Cabinet-level or other high-ranking appointee who is discovered to have an unregistered handgun at home. “It’s the kind of thing that, if dug out, could be an embarrassment to the president-elect,” Light said. Clay Johnson, deputy director of management at the Office of Management and Budget and the head of Bush’s 2000 transition, also didn’t quite understand the purpose of the question. “It could be their way to say to prospects that they will have to answer all these questions sooner or later, so be prepared,” Johnson observed. Matt Bennett, a veteran campaign operative who did a stint at Americans for Gun Safety and who now works for the moderate Democratic think tank Third Way, was equally befuddled. “It strikes me as overly lawyerly,” he said, noting that only a small percentage of guns owned by adults are ever used improperly. Only half-joking, Rep. Tim Ryan (D-Ohio) alluded to the shooting accident involving Vice President Dick Cheney, suggesting the query could be a better-safe-than-sorry measure. “Given the behavior of the vice president under the last administration, you may want to know these things,” Ryan said. On a more serious note, Ryan suggested that the new president was being “very, very thorough” in his approach. An Obama ally and pro-gun Democrat from a blue-collar region of Ohio, Ryan dismissed the notion that the inclusion of such a question would do any political harm to the incoming president. But other gun rights supporters want Obama to know the question has raised their antennae. “It’s very odd and very concerning to put out a question like that,” said Sen. Jim DeMint (R-S.C.), adding that it may also be “unprecedented.” The freshman senator, who is up for reelection in 2010, had his campaign organization send an e-mail to supporters this week, pledging to enact legislation to bar federal hiring discrimination on the basis of gun ownership. “Barack Obama promised change, and this is proof positive that we are going to see some of the most liberal change in our nation’s history,” wrote DeMint’s campaign in the e-mail. DeMint conceded it was unrealistic to try to get a bill on the matter through during the lame duck session this week. Still, it’s the sort of symbolic issue that may provide a political opening for Republican members of Congress from conservative-leaning states to contrast themselves with the new Democratic administration. “I want him to know that we’re looking for areas we can work with him but also looking for areas of concern that we want to let him know we’re going to fight on,” DeMint said. The NRA, the gun-rights group that spent millions to defeat Obama, only to see him easily carry sportsmen-heavy states such as Michigan and Pennsylvania, is signaling that it intends to keep up the fight. “Barack Obama and his administration are showing their true colors and true philosophy with regard to the Second Amendment,” said Chris Cox, the NRA’s top political official. “It shows what we’ve been saying all along — this guy doesn’t view the Second Amendment as a fundamental constitutional right.” Cox said the group had put the word out to their members on the question. Bennett, though, argued that approach would have little resonance. “The real question is whether he’s doing harm to the broader image of Democrats on guns, and the answer is probably no,” he said. “It may gin up 350,000 hard-core NRA types, but it won’t really bother 65 million other gun owners.”
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#1. To: Beendigen Sie die Kommunisten (#0)
Good. Ban them all.
Good. In fact, I fully support unreasonable restrictions on (Insert Obamamamama wish list here:___________________) . The more unreasonable, the better. Might as well end this farce, right fucking now. Click for Privacy and Preparedness files
It's gonna get hot. White hot.
GUN PORN!! 200 yards, as fast as I could pull the trigger, M4gery, no optics Good. In fact, I fully support unreasonable restrictions on (Insert Obamamamama wish list here:___________________) . The more unreasonable, the better. Might as well end this farce, right fucking now. Click for Privacy and Preparedness files
Aim small, miss small. One shot, one kill.
............ The perfect DVD combo: Dang - how many rounds was that?
3 mags or so. I dont remember. That is an old pic.
Good. In fact, I fully support unreasonable restrictions on (Insert Obamamamama wish list here:___________________) . The more unreasonable, the better. Might as well end this farce, right fucking now. Click for Privacy and Preparedness files
It was the first day of a school in USA and a new Indian student named Chandrasekhar Subramanian entered the fourth grade. The teacher said, "Let's begin by reviewing some American History. Who said, "Give me liberty , or give me death?" She saw a sea of blank faces, except for Chandrasekhar, who had his hand up. "Patrick Henry, 1775" he said. "Very good!" Who said, "Government of the People, by the People, for the People, shall not perish from the Earth?" Again, no response except from Chandrasekhar. "Abraham Lincoln, 1863" said Chandrasekhar. The teacher snapped at the class, "Class, you should be ashamed. Chandrasekhar, who is new to our country, knows more about its history than you do." She heard a loud whisper: "F*ck the Indians," "Who said that?" she demanded. Chandrasekhar put his hand up. "General Custer, 1862." At that point, a student in the back said, "I'm gonna puke." The teacher glares around and asks "All right! Now, who said that?" Again, Chandrasekhar says, "George Bush to the Japanese Prime Minister, 1991." Now furious, another student yells, "Oh yeah? Suck this!" Chandrasekhar jumps out of his chair waving his hand and shouts to the teacher , "Bill Clinton to Monica Lewinsky, 1997!" Now with almost mob hysteria someone said, "You little shit. If you say anything else, I'll kill you." Chandrasekhar frantically yells at the top of his voice, "Michael Jackson to the child witnesses testifying against him, 2004." The teacher fainted. And as the class gathered around the teacher on the floor, someone said, "Oh shit, we're screwed!" And Chandrasekhar said quietly, "I think it was the American people, November 4, 2008."
One shot, one kill. I know. This was back when ammo was cheaper and was just messing around. I usually dont bother taking pics unless it is something to brag about, which this wasn't. This one was better and IMO worth bragging about. Ruger 22/45 at 50 yds, no optics. I know, it says 25 yds on the backing, I didnt write it. Its my best group when I had a camera with me. Good. In fact, I fully support unreasonable restrictions on (Insert Obamamamama wish list here:___________________) . The more unreasonable, the better. Might as well end this farce, right fucking now. Click for Privacy and Preparedness files
Excellent! I love it! Thanks for posting.
Back when we could burn three mags without a bank loan for the rounds.
I thought it great - The founder of http://2asisters.org here in CenTex sent it to me.
Thanks Os!
Ammo is what they're coming after next is the word. Arizona, Hawaii and Maryland have dumped bills this year that require that "all handgun and “assault weapon” ammunition manufactured or sold" . . . "to be coded with an individual serial number, and entered into a statewide database at the time of sale. Encoded (serialized) ammunition would be registered to the purchaser and would include the date of transaction, the purchaser’s name, date of birth, driver’s license number, and the serial number of the ammunition." UPC's have advanced to the point that even individual cartridges can be imprinted with their own unique number. There's talk that the idiots are going to try to introduce similar legislation at the federal level when the new congresscritters come in. It's proposed that by 2011 all non-coded ammo will be subject to confiscation. That's what I heard on the radio today. Can't find much confirmation on this, but I'm keeping my ear to the ground.
You gotta be shittin me. "It's proposed that by 2011 all non-coded ammo will be subject to confiscation. " They can have the bullets back fragmented if they want them that badly.
Good. In fact, I fully support unreasonable restrictions on (Insert Obamamamama wish list here:___________________) . The more unreasonable, the better. Might as well end this farce, right fucking now. Click for Privacy and Preparedness files
Thanks Os! Sie sind unglaublich naiv. Und gefährlich.
"Not the victory but the action; Not the goal but the game; In the deed the glory" Dies ist gut Ja
"Not the victory but the action; Not the goal but the game; In the deed the glory" Dies ist gut “Barack Obama and his administration are showing their true colors and true philosophy with regard to the Second Amendment,” said Chris Cox, the NRA’s top political official. “It shows what we’ve been saying all along — this guy doesn’t view the Second Amendment as a fundamental constitutional right.” BO showed his true colors long ago on the 2A. well, there should be another huge rise in gun and ammo sales after this and just in time for christmas.
It really could come down to the shoutin' and singin' very soon.
You need to work on your sight picture and trigger control. I'd start at 100 yds and get all the rounds into the 5 area, then move back and see about getting most of them in there from longer distances. A stray miss into the 4 here and there is ok, but off the target isn't too good if you're down on ammo.
Jim, I'm old enough to have no regrets and young enough to be a threat. No government hire will confiscate my guns w/o resistance. I think most here feel the same.
All of the "appointees" will have men with guns to protect them from the "unwashed citizens".
Lots of men chose to die in vein.
Obunghole doesn't want his people to shoot him once they see how demented he actually is.
Amen to that. Especially after the jew banksters have hosed our 'savings.' As Janis told us, 'Freedom's just another word for nothing left to lose...'
a. Obama is not demented. Obama is calculating. Obama wanted power and he made a deal with the power brokers because they have a good track record for delivering. b. Obamaphiles will never acknowledge buyer's remorse unless he reneges on their most favorite Obama promise - ENTITLEMENTS and more ENTITLEMENTS galore!
No, he is not. But you get the feeling that there is something wrong with him in the sense that you saw in Jr. early on. He's not all he's cracked up to be. His background and records are all off limits somehow, and he's lost without his teleprompter. I have the feeling that he runs on 180-octane narcissism.
No, he is not. demented Definition de·mented (d ment82;id, di-) adjective mentally deranged; insane; mad Obama is for killing babies in the womb out of the womb. It doesn't matter to him. That is mentally deranged, sick, insane. HE IS DEMENTED. To argue the point otherwise puts your own mental facilities in question.
I have the feeling that he runs on 180-octane narcissism. And narcissim is what the power brokers identify very quickly in politicians - so much easier to manipulate someone with an oversized ego with average sized intellect and under sized accomplishments with a few skeletons in the closet to boot.
Well, in fairness, demented is a medical term. I watched my mother suffer from it before she passed away. It was hard. She was not deranged or insane. Dementia is a loss of mental faculties and is accompanied by a deterioration of the gray matter. You can be EVIL and not demented. Adolf, for example, (our favorite punching bag) was not demented until the shock of the attempt on his life began to take hold and the Russians slowly started closing in on his lair. 'Bama, on the other hand, seems to have control of his faculties, but I'll say that I have doubts about a number of his supporters.
I didn't say or mean dementia. I said demented as one sick mother fucker. Sick in the head. also I said " To argue the point otherwise puts your own mental facilities in question. " That was not directed at you. That is more at people who think being for killing babies doesn't make you a sicko.
Oh, hell. I can go along with sick motherfucker. I guess you can say that here. That's the term Kurt Vonnegut Jr. called the "twelve letter word not used by white people before WWII."
They can have it back fragmented Precisely how they will get it should they come for it.
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#2. To: PSUSA (#1)
#3. To: Beendigen Sie die Kommunisten (#0)
Could have been (much) better, but I was just screwing around.
#4. To: PSUSA (#3)
Ron Paul Intro., Freedom to Fascism, Keep and Bear Arms, Zeitgeist II & III.
All four, on one DVD, for a dollar.
#5. To: PSUSA (#3)
200 yards, as fast as I could pull the trigger, M4gery, no optics
#6. To: lodwick (#5)
#7. To: All (#5)
Humor break - Indian student -
#8. To: wakeup (#4)
Aim small, miss small.
#9. To: lodwick (#7)
#10. To: PSUSA (#6)
3 mags or so. I don't remember. That is an old pic.
#11. To: scrapper2, shooters here (#9)
#12. To: Beendigen Sie die Kommunisten, all (#0)
Saint Obama and the 2nd Amendment
#13. To: PSUSA (#8)
#14. To: randge (#13)
#15. To: Jethro Tull (#12)
Saint Obama and the 2nd Amendment
#16. To: PSUSA (#14)
#17. To: Beendigen Sie die Kommunisten (#0)
“It’s very odd and very concerning to put out a question like that,” said Sen. Jim DeMint (R-S.C.), adding that it may also be “unprecedented.”
#18. To: christine, shooters here (#17)
#19. To: PSUSA (#3)
200 yards, as fast as I could pull the trigger, M4gery, no optics
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#20. To: lodwick (#18)
It really could come down to the shoutin' and singin' very soon.
#21. To: Jethro Tull (#20)
#22. To: Cynicom (#21)
#23. To: Beendigen Sie die Kommunisten (#0)
#24. To: Jethro Tull, all (#20)
I'm old enough to have no regrets and young enough to be a threat. No government hire will confiscate my guns w/o resistance. I think most here feel the same.
#25. To: Old Friend (#23)
once they see how demented he actually is.
#26. To: scrapper2 (#25)
Obama is not demented.
#27. To: randge (#26)
Obama is not demented.
#28. To: randge (#26)
He's not all he's cracked up to be. His background and records are all off limits somehow, and he's lost without his teleprompter.
#29. To: Old Friend (#27)
#30. To: randge (#29)
#31. To: Old Friend (#30)
#32. To: randge, psusa (#13)
There's talk that the idiots are going to try to introduce similar legislation at the federal level when the new congresscritters come in. It's proposed that by 2011 all non-coded ammo will be subject to confiscation.
"Corporation: An entity created for the legal protection of its human parasites, whose sole purpose is profit and self-perpetuation." ~~ IndieTx
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