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Title: Becky Saunders in a Tizzy to Censor Discussion of New Torture Revelations
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URL Source: http://www.libertypost.org/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=102811
Published: Jul 24, 2005
Author: Becky Saunders
Post Date: 2005-07-24 19:32:04 by crack monkey
Keywords: Revelations, Discussion, Saunders
Views: 104
Comments: 25
Looks like the Bots are really scared. They're pulling out all the stops to keep people from seeing, or even discussion, the new torture information, i.e., the new photos and tapes soon to be released under the FOIA action. I take this attempt at raw censorship to be an admission that: (1) the allegations made in the "Sodomizing Children for Freedom" article are probably true and (2) the bots don't have much of a response to the allegations. Don't take my word for it, judge for yourself. Here's the link:
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#1. To: crack monkey (#0)
I think your link is wrong..try this one http://www.libertypost.org/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=102811 You know.. I think you're right they are scared..probably cause in those pictures are photos of KIDS being sodomized and tortured.. since the administration is blocking the release.. if people dont scream about it, it will be forgotten.. Now on censorship.. dont you just love this crap? Who determines who is the Forum nanny? Im glad to see Goldi isnt caving at least as yet.. Good for her..
"...when a society believes in nothing, fear becomes the only agenda..."
I'm pretty sure that dirtboy still has that job, since goldi gets a little testy if someone makes fun of him for it.
"If you're not cynical, then you're not paying attention."
Medved is having a total meltdown: Decision time, Goldi. You need to make a choice. I'm simply not interested in a forum which allows this kind of bulls**t to be promulgated. It'll be another couple of weeks before I take a look at LibertyPost again and if I still see anything like this at that point, I'll write LP off for good. medved posted on 2005-07-23 23:48:11 ET Threatening to take his ball and go home and all that. Damn, this is funny as hell!
"If you're not cynical, then you're not paying attention."
Could someone please remind becky (and anyone else over there on that thread) about this post of his? I would if I could. He's getting a bit big for his britches and this always shuts him up and makes him run away like a scared little girl:
"If you're not cynical, then you're not paying attention."
http://www.libertypost.org/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=102811 Thanks for catching that. It would be a shame for a normal, free thinking, pro- American Patriotic to miss Becky's meltdown.
Quite interesting isnt it? "...when a society believes in nothing, fear becomes the only agenda..."
We were laughing about this earlier today on the "Sodomizing for Freedom" thread over here. I also posted an article about the guy who I suspect is paying Becky.
These nutters have moved from simple lying and name-calling to threatening to hunt down posters and execute them, as well as veiled and delusional threats of being "watched" by the feds. Someone needs their meds adjusted.
"If you're not cynical, then you're not paying attention."
which article? You know I dont have as much of a problem with those who are paid as those whackos who are for killing all ragheads because they believe it!
"...when a society believes in nothing, fear becomes the only agenda..."
Both Becky and off his meds have made cryptic threats about donations if the article isn't censored. Makes me wonder if Goldi might be getting some real money by way of these guys from the RNC, the JDL or Becky's Rapture Monkey Church. Surly they can't think that witholding the 25 bucks they themselves donate is going to change anything.
Come on, CM....out with it. Share with the group...sharing is caring....
"If you're not cynical, then you're not paying attention."
It's on my drive. I don't have a link. I pasted it into the thread in a post to Jethro Tull.
Filibuster Fray Lifts Profile of Minister Scarborough Has Network and Allies By Shailagh Murray Washington Post Staff Writer Sunday, May 8, 2005; A01 In his home town of Pearland, Tex., Baptist minister Rick Scarborough was tireless in promoting his conservative Christian way of thinking. He attacked high school sex education courses, experimental medical treatments and transsexuals trying to change their gender identification. He recruited like-minded candidates to run for the local school board and city council. He crisscrossed the country to protest the ousting of Roy S. Moore, former chief justice of the Alabama Supreme Court, for installing a Ten Commandments tablet at his courthouse. And Scarborough created a network of "Patriot Pastors" to lead evangelicals to the polls in 2004. Now he has set his sights on bigger stakes: pushing Senate Republicans to change the rules so that Democrats cannot block President Bush's judicial nominees. The fight over the judgeships was once a largely academic argument over the constitutionality of the filibuster. But now it provides a fiery new front in the culture war. And Scarborough is emblematic of the Christian right leaders who have been drawn to the fray. Scarborough and other grass-roots conservative religious leaders believe the federal courts are trouncing Christian values on marriage, abortion and other right-to-life issues raised in the Terri Schiavo case. While he lacks the name recognition of more prominent religious activists, such as James Dobson of Focus on the Family, Tony Perkins of the Family Research Council and evangelist Pat Robertson, Scarborough is a potent force with close ties to House Majority Leader Tom DeLay (R-Tex.) and influential Senate conservatives. In just the past two weeks, Scarborough has recruited 2,000 more Christian ministers for his Patriot Pastor network, boosting total membership of the three-year-old alliance to about 5,000 members. The Senate returns tomorrow from a one-week recess, and the showdown over judges could come sometime in the next few weeks. It is a key test of the Christian right's political clout since last year's election, when Bush won a second term and Republicans strengthened their hold on Congress -- thanks in part to a record turnout of so-called "values voters." Anytime Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist (R-Tenn.) or other GOP leaders appear to be backing away from a showdown with the Democrats over the filibuster, Scarborough and his backers are there to give them a shove. This helps to explain the protracted nature of the dispute and the challenge to GOP leaders to work out a compromise. "One of my goals in life is to give the Republican Party courage," Scarborough said in a recent interview. "We have a lot of gutless wonders who wear the tag conservative Republican. Anytime there's any amount of fire, they crater." If Frist, as is expected, mounts a campaign for president in 2008, he will need the strong support of Christian conservatives to win his party's nomination. But for now, the verdict on Frist is still out, according to Scarborough. "I've admired him for his unwavering commitment" in confirming Bush's judges, Scarborough said. But the senators whose offices he calls most often are Sam Brownback (R-Kan.) and Rick Santorum (R-Pa.), both conservative Catholics who also may run for president in 2008. Scarborough for years was little known outside of Texas despite long-standing ties to DeLay, who calls the preacher "one of my closest friends," and his 2002 anointment by Jerry Falwell as one of the new leaders of the religious right in America. Now that he is in the thick of the filibuster controversy, Scarborough's op-ed pieces are being picked up by major newspapers, and copies of his nine-year-old book, "Enough is Enough," which discusses judicial overreach, are in big demand. While Christian right leaders such as Scarborough employ the usual Washington special-interest tactics -- collaring lawmakers, issuing press releases, appearing on political talk shows -- their real power rests in their unique access to millions of voters "who happen to go to church," as Scarborough puts it. "It's straight to the heart of people from men and women they trust," he said. Scarborough is part of a constellation of Christian right and socially conservative groups that are spending millions to mobilize their followers to pressure the Senate to try to break a Democratic logjam blocking some of Bush's most conservative and controversial judicial nominees. Focus on the Family has run ads in favor of the filibuster rule change and co-sponsored with the Family Research Council a televised Sunday evening simulcast last month that featured a videotaped speech by Frist. Christian conservatives have turned their attention to the courts because they believe many judges reflect a secular, liberal elite and are making rulings affecting prayer in school, religious expressions in public life, the teaching of science and other matters that are contrary to the will of the majority of Americans. "Judges are law. We have to live under their laws," said Don Wildmon, chairman of the American Family Association and a member of the advisory board of Vision America, Scarborough's organization. "We as any other American citizen ought to have some input in the kinds of people who are going to rule over us." The 2004 election lighted the fire for change, said Wildmon, who is also founder of the Arlington Group, a coalition of social conservative groups. "I always thought to the winner goes the spoils." The goal of these groups is to remove the parliamentary impediments that Democrats have used to block 10 of Bush's federal appellate court nominees and that could be used to block future Supreme Court nominees. Of the 10, seven have been renominated by the president, and the Democrats have vowed to block them again. With a 55 to 45 majority, Republicans currently have enough votes to confirm Bush's nominees but not enough to shut off a Democratic filibuster to get to the final vote. Scarborough, 55, started preaching while a student at Stephen F. Austin State University. His other preoccupation was football; one teammate was future Redskins star kicker Mark Moseley. "I hiked every ball he kicked in college," Scarborough says. After receiving a master's of divinity from Southwestern Baptist Theological Seminary in Fort Worth and a doctorate in ministry from Louisiana Baptist Theological Seminary, Scarborough hit the national revival and crusade circuit for 14 years. He settled in Pearland in 1990 and became pastor of First Baptist Church. His first foray into politics came two years later, when he attended a local high school assembly on AIDS awareness, and was appalled at the frank talk about condoms and "various sex acts." He read the transcript from the pulpit one Sunday morning and took his complaints -- and at least 400 parishioners -- to the school board. Eventually, the high-school principal was replaced by a supporter of abstinence-based sex education. The experience taught Scarborough the power of the pulpit in stirring action, and he became a prominent force on the local political scene. Within a few years, members of his church had been elected to the Pearland city council and school board, and were hired for top local government jobs, including city manager and police chief. But Scarborough encountered some bumps in the road. Several of his church members who won local school board and city council seats proved inept or uninspiring as public officials. In 1996, Scarborough tried to win control of the Texas Baptist General Convention to "take the state for Jesus," but lost to a moderate candidate by a 2-to-1 margin. In 2002, he resigned as pastor and founded Vision America to mobilize fellow church leaders "to promote active citizenship." Even some of Scarborough's adversaries say they were impressed by how swiftly he has ascended in the filibuster debate. His biggest public relations coup was a conference he organized in Washington last month titled "Confronting the Judicial War on Faith." The event attracted considerable media attention and featured DeLay via video calling for Congress to "reassert our constitutional authority over the courts." "He [Scarborough] has made himself a major player," says Rob Boston, of Americans United for Separation of Church and State, who has tracked Scarborough's career for years. Some GOP activists not affiliated with religious groups worry that their original intent of challenging the judicial filibuster on constitutional grounds is now being perceived as more of an effort by Christian groups to impose a religious test on judicial nominees. "We understand their frustration," says one Republican activist, who works closely with the religious groups. "But we'd rather keep the rhetoric constructive and not fire-breathing." During his news conference last week, Bush distanced himself from the views of some religious groups that Democrats were blocking his judicial nominees because of differences in faith. Scarborough insists that his broad goal is simply to put in place "constitutionally minded judges." It is an effort that could last months, even years, but he can't think of any cause more worthy. Along with the influx of new Patriot Pastors, his Web site, http://stopactivistjudges.org, received 850,000 hits last month. "I couldn't believe it," Scarborough said. "We've been chipping along and suddenly found ourselves in the middle of the flow." © 2005 The Washington Post Company
Makes me wonder if Goldi might be getting some real money by way of these guys from the RNC, the JDL or Becky's Rapture Monkey Church. Surly they can't think that witholding the 25 bucks they themselves donate is going to change anything. I hope Goldi doesnt cave to that strong arming crap.
"...when a society believes in nothing, fear becomes the only agenda..."
Cool! Thanks.
"If you're not cynical, then you're not paying attention."
Oh okay.. this article.. These people remind me of Jehovah Witnesses or Mormons..
"...when a society believes in nothing, fear becomes the only agenda..."
There are more articles on the guy from the San Antonio paper where is actually is paying "activists" to camp on websites, call into talk shows, write letters to the editor, etc.
At least when the JoHo's knock on my door, I can send them home with something "interesting" to tell everyone about when moon that bastards. Either that or I'll stand outside and recite the Gettysburg Address in german, real loud like it was at an old nazi nighttime fire rally: ("Kerbe vor vier und sieben Jahren...!!!"). They pretty much avoid my house now.
"If you're not cynical, then you're not paying attention."
Pretty bad when you have to pay the nutters to carry your water.
"If you're not cynical, then you're not paying attention."
IF Becky is really being paid by someone, then I'm sure that it's this type of organization. He's dumb, over the top and not very articulate. The only way he survives is by keeping half the world on bozo. The RNC or a lobbying group isn't going to pay him when the world is full of bright, articulate poly sci majors who can't find jobs.
The net, yes, dear lord, how dare legitimate news stories be posted on the same medium as lesbian midgets inserting....well, you get the idea.
We should thank the Nazis for giving us all those stark, frightening images. How else we gonna learn not to act like that? On the other hand, monkey see...
LOL! I bet.. they probably scatter fairly quickly..! Well they are the same in the line .. 'isnt the world in a mess?' .. same schict..
"...when a society believes in nothing, fear becomes the only agenda..."
You know, last summer while I was in Chicago I ran into a group of radical feminist wetback lesbian midgets on lower wacker drive.......
really? Did you think you were in the outtakes from... "...when a society believes in nothing, fear becomes the only agenda..."
Could be. They were jabbering in spainsh about some inequity in the treaty of hildago.
#2. To: Zipporah (#1)
Who determines who is the Forum nanny?
#3. To: crack monkey (#0)
Looks like the Bots are really scared. They're pulling out all the stops to keep people from seeing, or even discussion, the new torture information, i.e., the new photos and tapes soon to be released under the FOIA action.
#4. To: crack monkey, All (#0)
#5. To: Zipporah (#1)
I think your link is wrong..try this one
#6. To: orangedog (#3)
I'm simply not interested in a forum which allows this kind of bulls**t to be promulgated. It'll be another couple of weeks before I take a look at LibertyPost again and if I still see anything like this at that point, I'll write LP off for good.
#7. To: orangedog (#3)
Threatening to take his ball and go home and all that. Damn, this is funny as hell!
#8. To: crack monkey (#5)
#9. To: crack monkey (#7)
#10. To: Zipporah, orangedog (#5)
I'm simply not interested in a forum which allows this kind of bulls**t to be promulgated. It'll be another couple of weeks before I take a look at LibertyPost again and if I still see anything like this at that point, I'll write LP off for good.
#11. To: crack monkey (#7)
I also posted an article about the guy who I suspect is paying Becky.
#12. To: Zipporah (#9)
which article? You know I dont have as much of a problem with those who are paid as those whackos who are for killing all ragheads because they believe it!
#13. To: orangedog (#11)
Here it is again.
#14. To: crack monkey (#10)
Both Becky and off his meds have made cryptic threats about donations if the article isn't censored.
#15. To: crack monkey (#13)
#16. To: crack monkey (#13)
#17. To: orangedog (#15)
Cool! Thanks.
#18. To: Zipporah (#16)
These people remind me of Jehovah Witnesses or Mormons..
#19. To: crack monkey (#17)
...actually is paying "activists" to camp on websites, call into talk shows, write letters to the editor, etc.
#20. To: orangedog (#19)
Pretty bad when you have to pay the nutters to carry your water.
#21. To: crack monkey (#20)
allowing sh*t like this on your forum degrades you, the forum and even the net. - Bucky Sanders
#22. To: orangedog (#18)
At least when the JoHo's knock on my door, I can send them home with something "interesting" to tell everyone about when moon that bastards. Either that or I'll stand outside and recite the Gettysburg Address in german, real loud like it was at an old nazi nighttime fire rally: ("Kerbe vor vier und sieben Jahren...!!!"). They pretty much avoid my house now.
#23. To: Dakmar (#21)
how dare legitimate news stories be posted on the same medium as lesbian midgets inserting..
Hey, Meester,wanna meet my seester?
#24. To: Flintlock (#23)
#25. To: Zipporah, Dakmar (#24)
Did you think you were in the outtakes from...
Hey, Meester,wanna meet my seester?
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