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Title: The Sacred Name: Yahushua
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URL Source: http://www.geocities.com/cut2thechase_ca/holyname.htm
Published: Nov 23, 2008
Author: Bible
Post Date: 2008-11-23 20:52:31 by richard9151
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Views: 192
Comments: 8

The Sacred Name: Yahushua

Let me start by making a seemingly shocking statement for a proponent of Christian fundamentalism.

For those of us who truly believe in the Messiah...

We are not 'Christians'.

The title 'Christian' and all the Western Europeanized 'holy' names that go along with it are largely in error.

Let us understand the meaning of the word 'Christ'. This word is based on the Greek translation for 'messiah', Christos, which means 'Anointed One'. Check the beginning of a King James version of the New Testament. You will see 'Translated out of the Original Greek'. Was Jesus Christ a Greek? Negative. He was an Israelite. Israelites spoke Hebrew. 'Messiah' is much closer to the original Hebrew word mashiyach.

But then understand clearly. Neither Christ nor Messiah are proper names in the sense of family names such as Smith or Johnson. They are actually titles appended to the Saviour's original name to distinguish Him from others who also had His name.

And so removing the titles attached to the sacred Name, we are left with just the divinely ordained name Jesus.

And, as has been explained before, in the original Hebrew, the name Jesus means, Jehovah is Salvation. This was the Holy name given to Jesus directly from Jehovah.

Actually, the first century followers of Jesus called his teachings the way, or, the path, and considered it a way of life, not a religion.

And yes, the original name, translated from Hebrew, would be closer to Yahushua, but the common translation is Jesus, in the language of today.

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#1. To: richard9151 (#0)

For those of us who truly believe in the Messiah...

We are not 'Christians'.

The title 'Christian' and all the Western Europeanized 'holy' names that go along with it are largely in error.

Let us understand the meaning of the word 'Christ'. This word is based on the Greek translation for 'messiah', Christos, which means 'Anointed One'. Check the beginning of a King James version of the New Testament. You will see 'Translated out of the Original Greek'. Was Jesus Christ a Greek? Negative. He was an Israelite. Israelites spoke Hebrew. 'Messiah' is much closer to the original Hebrew word mashiyach.

waaaa....the Bible is wrong again....not.

Jesus wasn't just an "Israelite". He is God Almighty [Isaiah 9:6], Creator of ALL, yet son of Adam [who was NOT an "Israelite"], AND ABRAHAM, AND FATHER TO ALL WHO ARE CALLED BY HIS NAME [Isaiah 53:10/Galatians 3:16-29], OF EVERY TRIBE, NATION, AND TONGUE [Rev. 5:9-10]

1Ti 1:4 Neither give heed to fables and endless genealogies, which minister questions, rather than godly edifying which is in faith: [so do].

Act 17:26 And hath made of one blood all nations of men for to dwell on all the face of the earth, and hath determined the times before appointed, and the bounds of their habitation;

Gal 3:28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.

Col 3:11 Where there is neither Greek nor Jew, circumcision nor uncircumcision, Barbarian, Scythian, bond [nor] free: but Christ [is] all, and in all.

Act 11:26 And when he had found him, he brought him unto Antioch. And it came to pass, that a whole year they assembled themselves with the church, and taught much people. And the disciples were called Christians first in Antioch.

Christians g5546 §Á¹Ãű½%7; Christianos

Outline of Biblical Usage

1) Christian, a follower of Christ

http://www.blueletterbible.org/l...n.cfm?Strongs=G5546&t=KJV

Rev 3:12 Him that overcometh will I make a pillar in the temple of my God, and he shall go no more out: and I will write upon him the name of my God, and the name of the city of my God, [which is] new Jerusalem, which cometh down out of heaven from my God: and [I will write upon him] my new name.....

Christ, of whom the whole family in heaven and earth is named. - http://www.blueletterbible.org/B...m?b=Eph&c=3&v=15&t=KJV#15

"...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2008-11-24   12:25:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: richard9151 (#0) (Edited)

He was an Israelite. Israelites spoke Hebrew.

Says who? From what I can tell, scholars pretty much agree that the common language of the area at the time was one of the seven dialects of Aramaic and that Hebrew was spoken mostly in the synagogues. Koine Greek was thought to have been the international language of business, much like English is today.

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F.A. Hayek Fan  posted on  2008-11-24   12:55:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: All (#2) (Edited)

Says who?

I've found three people who claim that Jesus Spoke Hebrew. One is a guy named Brenton Minge who wrote a book entitled Jesus Spoke Hebrew: Busting the Aramaic Myth and the other two are Dr. Roy B. Blizzard, Jr and David Bivin, who authored a book entitled, Understanding the Difficult Words of Jesus.

Of course there are numerous webpages that make the claim, but they are getting their information directly from Jesus Spoke Hebrew: Busting the Aramaic Myth.

People can believe what they want to believe, but there are multiple thousands of biblical scholars in the world. If there were anything to the "Jesus spoke Hebrew" claim, there would be hundreds of books written by hundreds of scholars. That's my opinion anyway. That and $1.38 will get you a cup of coffee at the 7-11.

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F.A. Hayek Fan  posted on  2008-11-24   13:24:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: richard9151 (#0)

Jesus is the Greek version.

In English his name is Joshua.

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Turtle  posted on  2008-11-24   18:20:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#1)

He is God Almighty [Isaiah 9:6],

It is a serious and grevious error to tell people things that are simply not true. Especially about things as serious as this. Jesus is not Almighty; as he said, the Father is greater than I. And if you would like the verse for that, I will post it again, as I have posted it before many times.

Here is Isaiah 9:6, from the King James Bible;

For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given; and the government shall be upon his shoulder; and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counselot, The mightty God, The everlasting Father, the Prince of Peace.

Here is the same verse from Isaiah from the New World Translation of the Holy Scriptures;

6 For there has been a child born to us, there has been a son given to us; and the princely rule will come to be upon his shoulder. And his name will be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Eternal Father, Prince of Peace.

I could continue this from other Bibles, but why bother? No where in the Bible does it call Jesus Almighty, just as he never claimed to be the equal of his Father. Just as he told Satan when Satan tempted him that Satan, and everyone, owed scared service (worship) to Jehovah God, and no one else.

When a man who is honestly mistaken hears the truth, he will either quit being mistaken or cease to be honest.

richard9151  posted on  2008-11-25   10:36:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Hayek Fan (#2)

Says who? From what I can tell, scholars pretty much agree that the common language of the area at the time was one of the seven dialects of Aramaic and that Hebrew was spoken mostly in the synagogues. Koine Greek was thought to have been the international language of business, much like English is today.

Nobody said differently. What is obvious, even from what you wrote, is that the people of that era were probably able to communicate in several languages.

And you made the point; in the synagogues. Do you suppose that most Israelites went to the synagogues? And that would, since it was the language of their religion, have made it the language of their homes as well. And yes, Koine Greek was the international language of business, thanks to Alexander the Great. This is why most, if not all, of the New Testament was written in Greek, as it was distributed and used everywhere.

When a man who is honestly mistaken hears the truth, he will either quit being mistaken or cease to be honest.

richard9151  posted on  2008-11-25   10:41:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Hayek Fan, *Bible facts* (#3)

"Jesus spoke Hebrew"

Of course he did. As I posted to you, he also spoke Greek, probably Aramaic, and possibly other languages as well. In understanding, if we believe that he is who we say he is, why would he not, that he could effectively communicate with anyone who wished to understand him?

Anyone who does an honest study of the Bible (instead of listening to others speak of what is in the Bible) will come away with an understanding of his Words, which he told us are not his Words but the Words of his Father.

That is to say, you will if you first ask him and his Father for help in understanding, and in guidance.

When a man who is honestly mistaken hears the truth, he will either quit being mistaken or cease to be honest.

richard9151  posted on  2008-11-25   10:46:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: richard9151 (#6)

And that would, since it was the language of their religion, have made it the language of their homes as well.

So by that logic, pre-1965 Catholics spoke Latin in their homes because it was spoken in their masses, right?

As I stated before, there are thousands of biblical scholars in this world who have spent their entire lives researching this topic. The overwhelming majority of them are of the opinion that the common language of the Jews of Jesus' time period was Aramaic, not Hebrew. I am sure they have reasons why they believe such a thing. Go find a biblical scholar and argue with him/her about it, not me.

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F.A. Hayek Fan  posted on  2008-11-25   11:15:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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