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Title: When Child Support Nazi's Attack...
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Me, a friend & some CS Nazi's
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Published: Nov 24, 2008
Author: Moi
Post Date: 2008-11-24 18:34:28 by Jhoffa_
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Comments: 15
Man, I can't believe it. I don't know if it's in response to a budget crisis or what, but a neighboring country here has changed their CS payment policy from monthly to weekly. Every week, without fail. Payments fall on a monday now. You have the money or it's 40 days in jail. That's right.. 40 days. Get paid bi-weekly? tough! Cough it up lo0ser, or its 40 days in the slam for you.. You, you, bi-weekly paid, no account, deadbeat dad, criminal you! A guy I know who stops in to collect scrap is going in for 40 days over this he told me today. Now he WAS a machinist (Yes, for real.) till he lost his job, so he collects scrap to help pay bills while he job hunts. (He was job hunting today when he stopped in to see if there was any scrap to come back after later.) So, he's reduced to a kind of rodent-ish type of existence. Mice run after bread crumbs and this guy runs around sniffing out scrap metal.. As you can imagine, this scrap metal deal is a feast or famine kind of thing.. (Mostly famine, but even a blind squirrel gets lucky every now and again.) so it can be difficult to make a budget.. To put it mildly. He was doing okay on the bi-weekly schedule, because he had a longer period of time to find enough scrap to support himself and pay the bill. But they cracked down and now it's Monday morning OR ELSE! If he has a slow week, it's just tough shit, you go to jail. The chick his ex is with now makes REALLY good money, so does his ex herself and so does his son.. He's a power plant welder and bills out at thirty two bucks an hour. So, it's not like anyone in their family is going to frekking starve if they let the guy pay every two weeks, ya know? Then I have another friend, a chick.. She gets all the health care for her two kids paid for by the state. The state sent her to college (She now has an associates degree in computer programming, which she couldn't ACTUALLY DO at gunpoint) She's talking about RETURNING to college to get ANOTHER DEGREE through the same program. The state paid her child care, the state paid to fix her car. The state paid for her clothes and a sleep test-evaluation thing of some kind because she complained about migraines.. She works when she wants, which isn't allot and it's always part time. So here's this guy doing one of the most physically demanding jobs I can think of, on a shoe string budget, with no support AT ALL, to make ends meet.. If he's late paying, he goes to jail, loses his place to live, loses everything and gets dumped back on the street with nothing but 40 days worth of bills he can't pay and a deadline of the following monday to pay his support. If he finds a job tomorrow, he'll lose that too. Why even bother to look? Then we've got this chick, and they sent her to COLLEGE.. for crying out loud! To teach her computer programming! Something she STILL can't do! You may as well pay to teach a badger to play the harmonica. Her degree is completely worthless, and even she admits as much. It's just sad..
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#1. To: Jhoffa_ (#0)
Until the 20th century, in a divorce, the children almost always went to the father. That's the way it should be. It would stop all this B.S. instantly.
Pugs rule, all other dogs drool.
It just seems so inequitable.. What possible good is going to be served by not letting this guy pay bi-weekly? Aren't there any REAL criminals to lock up?
~ Your failure to be informed, does not make me a wacko.
Justifiable homicide comes to mind ! Maybe he can make a contract with the ex for payment every two weeks. He and the ex should be able to make an agreement that the court should approve.
Where's your birth certificate Barack ?
I'm trying to get him a job at the hydraulics place up the road. I got a bit of an in there. I know they just quasi-fired a guy and, hopefully, they intend to replace him. Now IRONICALLY, this same place employs the above chick to do data entry.. Which she does when she feels like it. Go figure..
~ Your failure to be informed, does not make me a wacko.
My ex wife knows that trying to screw me over any kind of late child support payments would not net any positive result for her. She would never see another penny, ever.
I shall not vote for evil, lesser or otherwise. No shit. In a situation like this one, go 40 days in jail and you can lose everything you have.. Your job, your apartment or rented house, if that's your situation.. Then what? You've got someone you screwed out of a job, a place to live and laid a months worth of bills on them.. Who REALLY thinks they are going to be there, johnny on the spot, with the next payment? They're homeless & jobless for crying out loud.. What CAN they do?
~ Your failure to be informed, does not make me a wacko.
I can disappear from the face of the earth forever. :)
I shall not vote for evil, lesser or otherwise. If you can bottle that, there's liable to be a market for it..
~ Your failure to be informed, does not make me a wacko.
That's a sad story and I feel for the guy but that is a funny comment.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. It isn't right. Here is the solution where the dude wont go to jail. He collects scrap right so there shouldn't be to much of a record of it. He can stop that temporarily or do it on the side. So he goes and signs up for welfare and food stamps. Then he is on the dole too and can do his scrap on the side. Beats jail.
I know the burden your friend is under. Don't know what state you are in but in mine, it's 30 days or $400, whichever is greater, and then they start to ruin your life. I was lucky in that when I was still on the hook I was able to pay up. It wasn't always easy. Let me fill you in on a little secret. Three words...federal matching funds. Your state's child support enforcement funding is tied directly to the number of dollars they collect from divorced/single fathers. It all happened when DC federalized child support enforcement. When did that happen? Read your "Contract With America" that Newt pushed through. I tried to warn people. But they didn't care. Why? Two more words...deadbead dad. That was the marketing term for the soccer moms. There is one political red-headed stepchild in this country, and it's the divorced father. Why do you think that 50% plus divorce rate is there? If you had any idea how many jobs depend on the divorce industry, it would be a lot more clear. Do you think it's an accident that women file for more than 2/3 of the divorces and end up with custody of the kids more than 90% of the time? But no one cares until it happens to them until it happens to them or someone close to them. Why don't I care now? Because I spent years telling people how fucked it was and no one cared...until it happened to them. Like your friend, I was treated to scorn and ridicule and was dismissed. Lots of "The government didn't do this to you, you did this to you." Some of those people later ended up in my position. Now that I've gone through the wringer and I'm done, I'm older and I'm tired. it was a losing battle then, and it's a losing battle now. Your friend has my sympathy. He'll be mad and bitter and want to tell everyone about his situation, hoping for help. But when he gets to where I am, he'll be in the same place...older, tired and just wanting to be left alone.
"I'd like to live just long enough to be there when they cut off your head and stick it on a pike as a warning to the next ten generations that some favors come with too high a price." Vir Cotto, Babylon 5
In some (if not all) states, an agreement by the custodial and noncustodial parents is void unless the court expressly finds it in accordance with state law and/or in the best interest of the child.
The U.S. Constitution is no impediment to our form of government.--PJ O'Rourke
Being on the dole doesn't keep you out of jail.
The U.S. Constitution is no impediment to our form of government.--PJ O'Rourke
If you don't have a "job" then they can't receive payment. That simple. Maybe everyone should quit their job and get on the public dole. It would collapse faster.
All Divorce Courts are "courts of limited jurisdiction". If you'll read anyone's "dissolution" it's obvious that the courts sign off on a "new" agreement between the parties to the old agreement. It's basically a re- negotiated contract. Terms like the parties agree, the parties stipulate etc., are indicators that everything about a divorce requires agreement. The attorneys work their clients for these "stipulations". I've had plenty of experience in this arena and know from experience that the court has far less power than you think, and it's all based upon you giving it to them. I would add this caveat. If you have agreements with the State (such as a marriage license) or if you receive benefits from the State (welfare/medic-aid etc.,) ... you have waived many of your rights already. I refused to adhere to court orders and had them reversed. The court had ordered a court appointed attorney for my son and numerous other orders such as therapy, group sessions, drug testing etc ... eventually I wrote the orders to my satisfaction and the Judge merely signed them. [None of the aforementioned issues were included in my custody order and I got custody of our 2 children]. People get pushed around in divorce courts because they have attorneys and they and their attorneys are ignorant.
Where's your birth certificate Barack ?
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Then we've got this chick, and they sent her to COLLEGE.. for crying out loud! To teach her computer programming! Something she STILL can't do! You may as well pay to teach a badger to play the harmonica.
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He and the ex should be able to make an agreement that the court should approve.
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Being on the dole doesn't keep you out of jail.
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