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Title: Debate on 4um censorship--Weigh In!
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Published: Jul 24, 2005
Author: Christine and Zipporah
Post Date: 2005-07-24 23:28:38 by christine
Keywords: censorship--Weigh, Debate
Views: 9254
Comments: 295

Because concerns by several members have been posted to us, both publically and privately, about the free speech "allowed" on 4um, we have decided to create three new categories. The primary hot button is that of the Israel/Jewish/Zionism topic. We do not wish to censor and we also do not wish to offend (in reality, unavoidable, as what offends one may not offend another) anyone. With the availability of specific categories, each individual may eliminate an entire subject that he/she wishes not to view via his/her personal 'setup' page.

In the spirit of cooperation, and with the goal of working toward a satisfying and pleasant forum experience for everyone, we'd like to request that you avail yourselves of these specific category selections when posting your articles. The three new categories are:

Israel/Zionism

All is Vanity

Author! Author!

We hope that you all feel that this is an equitable solution.

Christine and Zipporah

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#14. To: Kamala, Lady X, LeCroupier, lightmind, Littlelisa, lodwick, LostBody, markm0722, mars attack, Matt Giwer, Mekons4, mennyiben, mirage, Mr Nuke Buzzcut, MUDDOG, Neil McIver, NOLAJBS, OKCSubmariner, okisok, Old Fud, orangedog, Pissed Off Janitor, PnbC (#0)

FYI

christine  posted on  2005-07-25   11:52:25 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: christine (#14)

The new Bozo filter may not be enough for the poster who called for censorship. He likes to control, and he wants noone to be able to post about his special group. He probably will not use the Bozo because he is driven to see the posts he wants to control. He acts like an agent of Israel, and feels a misplaced responsibility to defend Israel. Because he feels that Jews are oppressed by people like us in the 'aggressor' Marxist group. He is defending what he perceives to be the victim group, rooting for the underdog, so to speak.

Bayonne  posted on  2005-07-25   12:02:19 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#22. To: Bayonne (#19)

The new Bozo filter may not be enough for the poster who called for censorship. He likes to control

Bingo! Some of these gutless wonders think 'hate speech' is alive and well here in the states. What a courageous few, eh? IMVHO, we're far better off without such cowards. I still recall how some scattered when Mertz and Brian S were 'reported' to the nazi SS. Sorry, time is growing short. It's time to toss the useless ones overboard, especially those who use religion as a guise to censorship.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2005-07-25 12:08:59 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: Bayonne (#19)

Jethro Tull  posted on  2005-07-25 12:13:13 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: Bayonne, Christine, Zipporah (#19)

That's a good point.

In my (humble) opinion and experience, Bayonne is exactly right.

I would suggest watching for malcontents who are unsatisfied with the good faith effort you have made to find some middle ground between those who think these issues have merit and should be discussed and those who wish to see them quashed completely.

In my mind, anyone who objected to being forced to view this kind of material should be thankful that you've voluntarily provided them an out. I think it was a very nice gesture on your behalf. It's commendable.

Those who aren't satisfied with your (completely reasonable) solution likely just don't want the topic discussed at all, anywhere, by anyone at any time.

Should they complain, IMO, you won't be able to placate these people and there's no use trying.

They will attempt to force you into a position of having to choose between their patronage/participation and the content they disapprove of. If you don't side with them they will leave or threaten to leave in a very public manner and probably call you names.

It's actually preferable to allow this, because should you concede, their demands will only increase and continue to increase until they are effectively controlling the direction of your forum, and your legitimate function would be reduced to some odd kind of proxy.

FYI & IMVHO.

Jhoffa_  posted on  2005-07-25 12:42:56 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: Bayonne (#19)

The new Bozo filter may not be enough for the poster who called for censorship.

Yeah, I'm waiting for someone to call for a nanny bozo. This function will allow the forum nanny to see the posted article, but will bozo it for everyone else. I know of several people who lust after this function.

crack monkey  posted on  2005-07-25 12:47:27 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: Bayonne, christine (#19)

The new Bozo filter may not be enough for the poster who called for censorship. He likes to control, and he wants noone to be able to post about his special group. He probably will not use the Bozo because he is driven to see the posts he wants to control. He acts like an agent of Israel, and feels a misplaced responsibility to defend Israel. Because he feels that Jews are oppressed by people like us in the 'aggressor' Marxist group. He is defending what he perceives to be the victim group, rooting for the underdog, so to speak.

LOL ... how can you possibly know any of this?

Thanks, Christine.

Phaedrus  posted on  2005-07-25 12:53:25 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#54. To: Bayonne, robin, *Israeli Espionage* (#19)

The new Bozo filter may not be enough for the poster who called for censorship.

In effect it is the ghettoization of information that profoundly affects the future of our nation.
The information that shows our fellow Americans what has happened to this great nation of ours and how it happened and that identifies the pernicious and persistent 5th column that has executed a plan that goes back into, at the very least, the 1880s.
Nothing, repeat, nothing will satisfy those who attack 4 save the complete and utter censoring of information that exposes their crimes and their plans.
Unless, and until, 4 capitulates totally to the Jewish Lobby it will know no peace.
Aragorn : [In Elvish] Show them no mercy... for you shall receive none!

1776  posted on  2005-07-25 15:51:26 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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