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Title: Debate on 4um censorship--Weigh In!
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Published: Jul 24, 2005
Author: Christine and Zipporah
Post Date: 2005-07-24 23:28:38 by christine
Keywords: censorship--Weigh, Debate
Views: 9492
Comments: 295

Because concerns by several members have been posted to us, both publically and privately, about the free speech "allowed" on 4um, we have decided to create three new categories. The primary hot button is that of the Israel/Jewish/Zionism topic. We do not wish to censor and we also do not wish to offend (in reality, unavoidable, as what offends one may not offend another) anyone. With the availability of specific categories, each individual may eliminate an entire subject that he/she wishes not to view via his/her personal 'setup' page.

In the spirit of cooperation, and with the goal of working toward a satisfying and pleasant forum experience for everyone, we'd like to request that you avail yourselves of these specific category selections when posting your articles. The three new categories are:

Israel/Zionism

All is Vanity

Author! Author!

We hope that you all feel that this is an equitable solution.

Christine and Zipporah

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#189. To: christine, freedomwilliam (#0)

let me see if I can help you here.

the appropriate response is,

"if you don't agree, go away"

see, tolerance is often used as a tool by those who want exactly the opposite....the more religious they are, the more likely this is to be true, as it is a function of tribalism, which is related to a very naieve, immature, and dangerous mindset to freedom.

so, if they don't like it, they DON'T FUCKING HAVE TO LIKE IT.

people have the RIGHT to NOT LIKE YOU for any damn reason they want.

get the fuck over it, grow up, and shut the hell up.

christ on a bicycle, already.

gengis gandhi  posted on  2005-07-26   15:32:32 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

so, if they don't like it, they DON'T FUCKING HAVE TO LIKE IT.

people have the RIGHT to NOT LIKE YOU for any damn reason they want.

get the fuck over it, grow up, and shut the hell up.

Bravo, I must commend you on your debating style it is....ummm... par excellence.

It's truly hard to believe after having read your response why anyone would have the attitude "if you don't agree, go away".

Simply unfathomable. ;)

timetobuildaboat  posted on  2005-07-26   15:38:02 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

there is no debate here.

it's simple...if you don't like something, ignore it or go away.

demanding everyone else conform to your dictates is infantile and absurd.

the very concept itself is the essence of intolerance.

so, when I say these people are very juvenile and naieve in their thinking, it's because they behave as teenagers do, thinking the world should bend to their whims because the desires are THEIRS.

irony is lost on the emotionalist lackwit political knave.

what they advocate, freedom, and what they do, demand it be restricted, are completely contradictory.

they are walking madmen, literally...functionally insane, with some sort of sociopathic schism between belief and reality.

the problem you people run into is thinking these nutcases deserve debate on principles like freedom.

what the fuck?

freedom is freedom.

take it or leave it.

sweet babbling jesus, these morons can't even deal with freedom in cyberspace...what the hell does anyone think they vote for?

this country is fucked large.

in a year I will be posting from South America.

gengis gandhi  posted on  2005-07-26   15:54:28 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

#209. To: gengis gandhi (#193)

Definitely like your debating style. If you post from South America, many will be envious, whether they'll admit it or not.

Freedom William  posted on  2005-07-26 17:12:37 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

demanding everyone else conform to your dictates is infantile and absurd.

Of course.

But having been around this scene a little while, any thinking person realizes that most forums are a grouping of like minded people.

NRA - people who support gun rights Free Republic - people who support conservatism and the various candidates Natural herb site - people who use nature to treat common problems

Now, I could go on but I think you get the point.

If someone was to go the NRA site and start promoting gun confiscation they would suffer your view of "fascist" treatment and rightfully so IMHO.

If someone was to go to Free Republic and start discussing how socialism would be the best thing since sliced bread. Then, guess what? Yes, they would suffer the same fascism you feel a victim of.

Look, I could go on but the reality of these forums is to share knowledge of events and things the group is interested in. A lot of it seems to be preaching to the choir but it is a great resource for those of us with similar philosophies.

The bottom line is the core members of this group are here because they feel our government no longer works for us. They also feel the constitution should be strictly followed. They don't believe in socialism and support the right own guns.

Now if you have a philosophy that differs greatly from the above then you will find conflict here. Because theses people (the core) have strong enough convictions that they will try to open the eyes of what we all view as sheep when their philosophy differs greatly or have bought into the government BS.

You may not like it but guess what, that's reality. Not a tough thing to grasp. But test it out....Got the Earth first forum and start a thread about how wonderful it would be to open up logging to be unlimited. I bet they will attack you in the same way you feel you are attacked here.

Sometimes a little reality slap is needed and this banter back and forth of the loons who seem to feel this site is something it is not got under my craw and felt like it they needed a little instruction.

timetobuildaboat  posted on  2005-07-27 05:29:44 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

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