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Title: Debate on 4um censorship--Weigh In!
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Published: Jul 24, 2005
Author: Christine and Zipporah
Post Date: 2005-07-24 23:28:38 by christine
Keywords: censorship--Weigh, Debate
Views: 3271
Comments: 295

Because concerns by several members have been posted to us, both publically and privately, about the free speech "allowed" on 4um, we have decided to create three new categories. The primary hot button is that of the Israel/Jewish/Zionism topic. We do not wish to censor and we also do not wish to offend (in reality, unavoidable, as what offends one may not offend another) anyone. With the availability of specific categories, each individual may eliminate an entire subject that he/she wishes not to view via his/her personal 'setup' page.

In the spirit of cooperation, and with the goal of working toward a satisfying and pleasant forum experience for everyone, we'd like to request that you avail yourselves of these specific category selections when posting your articles. The three new categories are:

Israel/Zionism

All is Vanity

Author! Author!

We hope that you all feel that this is an equitable solution.

Christine and Zipporah

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#13. To: Ferret Mike, Flintlock, forester, FormerLurker, Fred Mertz, gengis gandhi, griper, Grumble Jones, h-a-l-f-w-i-t-t, headsonpikes, historian1944, honway, HOUNDDAWG, imawit, Indrid Cold, itisa1mosttoolate, Japedo, Jen, Jethro Tull, Jhoffa_, justlurking (#0)

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christine  posted on  2005-07-25   11:47:22 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Debate on 4um censorship--Weigh In!

Wasn't this post originally called "3 New Catagories" ?

Now is titled "Debate on 4um censorship--Weigh In!"

Could the "critisiums" or "comments" sent to Neil, Chrissy, or Zip be posted here (not revealing who made them)?

Itisa1mosttoolate  posted on  2005-07-26   13:19:00 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Yes, I changed the title last night as I wanted to encourage comment by all members. The criticisms and comments are being posted here now as per my invitation to do so.

christine  posted on  2005-07-26   13:32:32 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

The founders gave each individual a robust set of individual rights that protect us from tyranny. Why do the censors want to remove some of these after they have worked for hundreds of years? Think about the magnitude of this change. It will represent the end of freedom when enforced by the fed govt (hate crime laws).

All to benefit special interest groups- especially Jewish groups. So, groups are being given rights that make sure indivs can't speak about them in certain negative terms. The indiv loses his 1st amendment rights, for what? To give groups deemed special by the govt more power than they already have? Why should we?

Hate crime laws give groups rights. Minorities segregate themselves into groups

Yet they claim that groups cannot even exist.

Can't have it both ways. They define themselves as groups to take full advantage of our now collectivist sytem, but when analyzed as a group they say the group doesn't exist.

Bottom line- they are groups and groups cannot have rights. When groups have rights and our full set of indiv rights is stripped from us, it leaves us vulnerable to tyranny from groups and the govt.

Bayonne  posted on  2005-07-26   15:07:31 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Don't you find it rather amazing that people come to a forum and then demand that things go their way. Now I don't tell the Jewish people that own ABC,CBS and MTV and Fox News,etc. and Wolf Blitzer what to say or what topics to cover I wouldn't think of such a thing, yet they come over here and want to dictate to us what we may or may not have on this patriots' forum. That is chutzpah

1776  posted on  2005-07-26   16:19:05 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

#197. To: 1776 (#196)

And it's not like they posted on ANY of the threads discussing Israeli issues. They seemingly couldn't care less about the issues, then all of a sudden, they want all speech they deem hate speech, censored. And they press the issue for days. Whats up with that

On a patriot forum, they're calling for the removal of individual rights from posters and the equivalent of giving rights to a group commonly known as Jews, while at the same time arguing that the Jewish group they are representing doesn't even exist!

Bayonne  posted on  2005-07-26 16:24:54 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

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