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Title: Debate on 4um censorship--Weigh In!
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Published: Jul 24, 2005
Author: Christine and Zipporah
Post Date: 2005-07-24 23:28:38 by christine
Keywords: censorship--Weigh, Debate
Views: 9476
Comments: 295

Because concerns by several members have been posted to us, both publically and privately, about the free speech "allowed" on 4um, we have decided to create three new categories. The primary hot button is that of the Israel/Jewish/Zionism topic. We do not wish to censor and we also do not wish to offend (in reality, unavoidable, as what offends one may not offend another) anyone. With the availability of specific categories, each individual may eliminate an entire subject that he/she wishes not to view via his/her personal 'setup' page.

In the spirit of cooperation, and with the goal of working toward a satisfying and pleasant forum experience for everyone, we'd like to request that you avail yourselves of these specific category selections when posting your articles. The three new categories are:

Israel/Zionism

All is Vanity

Author! Author!

We hope that you all feel that this is an equitable solution.

Christine and Zipporah

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#14. To: Kamala, Lady X, LeCroupier, lightmind, Littlelisa, lodwick, LostBody, markm0722, mars attack, Matt Giwer, Mekons4, mennyiben, mirage, Mr Nuke Buzzcut, MUDDOG, Neil McIver, NOLAJBS, OKCSubmariner, okisok, Old Fud, orangedog, Pissed Off Janitor, PnbC (#0)

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christine  posted on  2005-07-25   11:52:25 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

The new Bozo filter may not be enough for the poster who called for censorship. He likes to control, and he wants noone to be able to post about his special group. He probably will not use the Bozo because he is driven to see the posts he wants to control. He acts like an agent of Israel, and feels a misplaced responsibility to defend Israel. Because he feels that Jews are oppressed by people like us in the 'aggressor' Marxist group. He is defending what he perceives to be the victim group, rooting for the underdog, so to speak.

Bayonne  posted on  2005-07-25   12:02:19 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

The new Bozo filter may not be enough for the poster who called for censorship. He likes to control, and he wants noone to be able to post about his special group. He probably will not use the Bozo because he is driven to see the posts he wants to control. He acts like an agent of Israel, and feels a misplaced responsibility to defend Israel. Because he feels that Jews are oppressed by people like us in the 'aggressor' Marxist group. He is defending what he perceives to be the victim group, rooting for the underdog, so to speak.

LOL ... how can you possibly know any of this?

Thanks, Christine.

Phaedrus  posted on  2005-07-25   12:53:25 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

LOL ... how can you possibly know any of this?

He doesn't.. any more than I do.

However, it's a reasonable assumption based on past experience. It works like a slippery slope.

Here's an example:

First, it's the "anti-semitic" stuff that has to be banned.. Ostensibly because it's offensive and hurts the site.

It's not a hot topic of mine, but I do read the occasional thread

Then it's the "Kook" stuff. Again, the reason given is it hurts the site and taints everyone by association.

Not a hot topic of mine either, but then again, why should I, you or anyone care if someone thinks we never landed on the moon? So what?

Then it's "Bush Bashing" Once more it ostensibly hurts the place and makes us all look bad. It's "divisive" etc..

Then "Party bashing" "Catholic bashing" On and on..

Etc, etc, etc..

Thanks, Christine.

Well, that's sweet of you.

It's nice to see that someone so opposed to this kind of content appreciates her effort.

It's allot more than some people would do and I think she deserves a thanks.

Jhoffa_  posted on  2005-07-25   13:06:20 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

#38. To: Jhoffa_, Christine (#36)

Whatever ... I didn't appear here to start or finish a fight. Have a nice day, Jhoffa_, and thanks again, Chistine.

Phaedrus  posted on  2005-07-25 13:14:35 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

First, it's the "anti-semitic" stuff that has to be banned.. Ostensibly because it's offensive and hurts the site.

It's not a hot topic of mine, but I do read the occasional thread

Then it's the "Kook" stuff. Again, the reason given is it hurts the site and taints everyone by association.

Not a hot topic of mine either, but then again, why should I, you or anyone care if someone thinks we never landed on the moon? So what?

Then it's "Bush Bashing" Once more it ostensibly hurts the place and makes us all look bad. It's "divisive" etc..

It goes a little along the lines of that famous quote from Pastor Martin Niemöller,

"First they came for the communists, and I did not speak out — because I was not a communist;
Then they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out — because I was not a socialist;
Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out — because I was not a trade unionist;
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out — because I was not a Jew;
Then they came for me — and there was no one left to speak out for me."

So, you see it is the same old crap that the Nazis pulled, and the Germans allowed by it their silence and acquiesence. We only hurt ourselves by allowing the persecutions for thought crimes and crimes by association and so forth. It is a vicious and never ending cycle. If we allow it, soon there will be no one left to speak out. I will resist this evil to my last breath.

BTP Holdings  posted on  2005-07-25 14:38:44 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

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