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Title: Debate on 4um censorship--Weigh In!
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Published: Jul 24, 2005
Author: Christine and Zipporah
Post Date: 2005-07-24 23:28:38 by christine
Keywords: censorship--Weigh, Debate
Views: 9227
Comments: 295

Because concerns by several members have been posted to us, both publically and privately, about the free speech "allowed" on 4um, we have decided to create three new categories. The primary hot button is that of the Israel/Jewish/Zionism topic. We do not wish to censor and we also do not wish to offend (in reality, unavoidable, as what offends one may not offend another) anyone. With the availability of specific categories, each individual may eliminate an entire subject that he/she wishes not to view via his/her personal 'setup' page.

In the spirit of cooperation, and with the goal of working toward a satisfying and pleasant forum experience for everyone, we'd like to request that you avail yourselves of these specific category selections when posting your articles. The three new categories are:

Israel/Zionism

All is Vanity

Author! Author!

We hope that you all feel that this is an equitable solution.

Christine and Zipporah

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#14. To: Kamala, Lady X, LeCroupier, lightmind, Littlelisa, lodwick, LostBody, markm0722, mars attack, Matt Giwer, Mekons4, mennyiben, mirage, Mr Nuke Buzzcut, MUDDOG, Neil McIver, NOLAJBS, OKCSubmariner, okisok, Old Fud, orangedog, Pissed Off Janitor, PnbC (#0)

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christine  posted on  2005-07-25   11:52:25 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

The new Bozo filter may not be enough for the poster who called for censorship. He likes to control, and he wants noone to be able to post about his special group. He probably will not use the Bozo because he is driven to see the posts he wants to control. He acts like an agent of Israel, and feels a misplaced responsibility to defend Israel. Because he feels that Jews are oppressed by people like us in the 'aggressor' Marxist group. He is defending what he perceives to be the victim group, rooting for the underdog, so to speak.

Bayonne  posted on  2005-07-25   12:02:19 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

The new Bozo filter may not be enough for the poster who called for censorship. He likes to control

Bingo! Some of these gutless wonders think 'hate speech' is alive and well here in the states. What a courageous few, eh? IMVHO, we're far better off without such cowards. I still recall how some scattered when Mertz and Brian S were 'reported' to the nazi SS. Sorry, time is growing short. It's time to toss the useless ones overboard, especially those who use religion as a guise to censorship.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2005-07-25   12:08:59 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Bingo! Some of these gutless wonders think 'hate speech' is alive and well here in the states.

I just realized a few things about hate speech:

The issue of hate speech, publicized often for all Americans to see, maintains the victim status of special groups and instills a sense of guilt in the majority that they are unaware of on the surface. Everyone in the majority that is not PC is a kind of criminal in our system. Not only that, Americans that abide by PC live with a subtle fear- that they will say the wrong thing or think the wrong thing. This is what totalitarianism does to individuals. There is a constant campaign of conditioning against individuals in the majority in our media- to instill guilt, reinforce certain govt powered groups as perpetual victims, and cement the majority as predatory and aggressive in its relationships with the victim groups.

Guilt serves to neuter the majority when groups are working against them- which is always. The majority feels subconsciously that the special groups deserve the power they usurp. I say usurp, because the more power groups get, the less power the individual is able to exercise. Its no coincidence that the rampant collectivism present in the US coincides with the rise of the American police state. These groups claim they need power and rights to fight off aggression, hate. We are told that free speech deemed as hate by the tot Marxist-like system can lead to violence and even another holocaust. Mission accomplished. As these groups work against the majority and reinforce collectivism, the individual stands silent when being attacked in this Marxist inspired class warfare. At this point, he has accepted the Marxist doctrine as ethical and cannot even see the aggression of the special groups, backed with the full power of the fed govt. He has bought the argument that indiv rights are not only not important, but a threat that will lead to violence if freedom of speech is not ended. He believes the ADL is a defensive org, and that all they want is equality. What they actually want is superiority at the expense of the individual. The power source for the ADL, taken by the govt, is the individual.

If you accept what I am saying, think about how are system has been hijacked. Think about the collectivism rampant in the US. Think of how are politicians serve groups and not individuals. Think of the fact that the ADL and other groups panned this whole mess we're in. The propaganda and conditioning we are subjected to by the media, systematically, is a crime.

The propaganda is so massive that individuals in the majority accept the above. They think collectively now. They believe groups have natures and deserve power to 'protect' themselves. They lose their sense of individuality, their awareness of their God given rights. They have accepted collectivism over individuality. The exact opposite of the founding 'fathers' vision. This is because they have been conditioned to be slaves. BOTS place no value on individual rights. At this point they actually seem to be hostile to indiv rights.

So, hate speech is a false issue, used by groups to gain power and weaken the rights of the individual. The issue of hate was carefully thought out before implementation- there was a plan- we have been lied to for years. Certain groups mask their aggression toward the majority by conditioning the sheeple to feel guilty and feel that the aggression is actually justice- to make their group equal to the majority. Groups have chosen to segregate themselves via definitions they come up with for their group. So, groups and the fed govt create all this group politics we see. They choose segregation while the claim the opposite. No two groups can be equal so that stated goal is not real. Groups, especially based on race, constantly seek more power. The evidence is our system. One groups has gotten everything they want fom the US govt in the last 5 years. They want their group to be the strongest. Again, they're claims for equality are false. If they truly wanted freedom and equality, they would not have segregated themselves in the 1st place- they would have sought total integration- with each individual, regardless of race, being equal and enjoying the same freedoms and rights. Instead, as they fought for integration publicly, they secretly employed segregation to fight for the collective group.

The most successful group, out of many, in employing the above has been the Jews. They have used their victim class status, our predator class status, implementation of guilt thru the holocost, and very real political power that the fed gov gave them so that they are almost above the law in some respects.

Bayonne  posted on  2005-07-25   13:54:27 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

#51. To: Bayonne (#48)

Think of how are politicians serve groups and not individuals.

that's it in a nutshell! great post.

christine  posted on  2005-07-25 14:18:53 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

There is a constant campaign of conditioning against individuals in the majority in our media- to instill guilt, reinforce certain govt powered groups as perpetual victims, and cement the majority as predatory and aggressive in its relationships with the victim groups.

Prof. Dr. Werner Pfeifenberger, who was heavily persecuted in Germany and Austria for his revisionist views and who was finally driven to suicide, stated the following:

"Besides the three usual brain functions: understanding, rationality, and the will, which together make up man's spirit and serve his life's interests, a fourth category of thinking evidently slumbers within man which, once started through deliberate re-routing of psychic functions, lets men act against their very own interest for the benefit of a foreign will. The better the mentors of such re-routing succeed in hypnotizing other people of a closed world view, the sooner they can be moved as Isms, to sacrifice themselves and others, so that their spiritual mentors don't lack any power and wealth."

1776  posted on  2005-07-25 20:01:10 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

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