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Title: Trouble in Paradise: Obama’s Kenyan Birth Record on its Way to US
Source: macsmind.com/wordpress/2008
URL Source: http://macsmind.com/wordpress/2008/ ... birth-record-on-its-way-to-us/
Published: Nov 25, 2008
Author: Youtube
Post Date: 2008-11-25 21:31:26 by TwentyTwelve
Keywords: Obama, Born In Kenya
Views: 5657
Comments: 237

Trouble in Paradise: Obama’s Kenyan Birth Record on it’s Way to US

16 Nov 08

Posted by MacRanger as Barack Obama, News

I have been notified - but not verified - that the actual birth certificate mentioned in Philip Berg’s lawsuit is on it’s way to the US, where it will be distributed to media outlets. The certificate apparently shows that Barack Hussein Obama was born in a hospital in Mombasa, Kenya located in Coast Province.

Gina Cobb first reported on the existence of this certificate back in October.

Again, SC Justice David Souter has ordered Obama to respond to the Writ of Certiorari by Dec. 1. That means to produce a birth certificate.

UPDATE: More on the Writ of Certiorari here.

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#1. To: Horse (#0)

TwentyTwelve  posted on  2008-11-25   21:32:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: TwentyTwelve (#0)

There, proof..

~ Your failure to be informed, does not make me a wacko.

Jhoffa_  posted on  2008-11-25   21:42:20 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: TwentyTwelve (#0)

The certificate apparently shows that Barack Hussein Obama was born in a hospital in Mombasa, Kenya located in Coast Province.

Move on, nothing to see. The legal eagles have assured us this issue is a closed matter. Thank you and have a pleasant ride.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-11-25   21:46:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: TwentyTwelve (#0)

The electoral college doesn't meet until the second Wednesday in December to cast their votes, the window of opportunity to block his foreign ass from sitting in the White House is small. After that, it'll take a civil war to depose the mulatto.

“The best and first guarantor of our neutrality and our independent existence is the defensive will of the people…and the proverbial marksmanship of the Swiss shooter. Each soldier a good marksman! Each shot a hit!”
-Schweizerische Schuetzenzeitung (Swiss Shooting Federation) April, 1941

X-15  posted on  2008-11-25   22:03:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: X-15 (#4)

After that, it'll take a civil war to depose the mulatto.

Stay tuned.

TwentyTwelve  posted on  2008-11-25   22:07:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: TwentyTwelve (#0)

While our country is being destroyed some people just can't deal with facts. I wonder just how dumb a person has to be. Either that or those who keep posting this crap are paid to do it and draw attention away from the real issues.

Give it up. You a neocon? An atheist Ashkenazim? You do remember who started the BS about him being a Muslim don't you? That should pretty cover who keeps this crap alive and why they do it.

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_wYOqE4...ULdVwoc/s1600-h/08-93.JPG

www.intellectualconservat...ack-obama-born-in-hawaii/

http://kgmb9.com/main/content/view/10981/40/

http://www.thedenverchannel.com/politics/17866037/detail.html

http://www.news4jax.com/news/17866037/detail.html

bush_is_a_moonie  posted on  2008-11-25   22:49:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: bush_is_a_moonie (#6)

--

The race is on to turn Hawaii into Kenya.


"You only have power over people so long as you don't take everything away from them. But when you've robbed a man of everything he's no longer in your power -- he's free again. Alexander Solzhenitsyn

Ferret Mike  posted on  2008-11-25   22:58:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: bush_is_a_moonie, Horse (#6)

While our country is being destroyed some people just can't deal with facts. I wonder just how dumb a person has to be. Either that or those who keep posting this crap are paid to do it and draw attention away from the real issues.

Why are you protecting Obama?

Do you believe in the U.S. Constitution?

Title: SPACE RESERVED FOR NEWS ON COURT ORDER (BERG Vs. OBAMA)

TwentyTwelve  posted on  2008-11-25   22:59:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: TwentyTwelve (#8)

Did you not know Hawaii is a state, not a Republic in Africa?

What do you have against the U.S. Constitution?


"You only have power over people so long as you don't take everything away from them. But when you've robbed a man of everything he's no longer in your power -- he's free again. Alexander Solzhenitsyn

Ferret Mike  posted on  2008-11-25   23:03:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: TwentyTwelve (#8)

I am not protecting anybody. I'm tired of the BS propaganda. It's time to focus on the important issues. Wonder why you co-opted the name. Hmmm. Go ahead a play your stupid game while the neocon politicians burn our country to the ground.

bush_is_a_moonie  posted on  2008-11-25   23:03:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: bush_is_a_moonie (#10)

It is just evil to use a stipulation in the U.S. Constitution to slander a native born American with lies and innuendo.

I'd say the only thing these game players have going for them is they don't offer deep pockets to pay up what they deserve to be ordered to pay for their Machiavellian games, slander and lies.


"You only have power over people so long as you don't take everything away from them. But when you've robbed a man of everything he's no longer in your power -- he's free again. Alexander Solzhenitsyn

Ferret Mike  posted on  2008-11-25   23:09:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Ferret Mike (#11)

As I said before either the people posting this stuff are paid to do it or their lives are so depressing and suffocating this is how they draw attention to themselves to feel important.

Makes one wonder if they happened to be the doctor who delivered him would they still post this childish stuff. I bet they would. It has to be a psychological/mental problem of some kind.

bush_is_a_moonie  posted on  2008-11-25   23:14:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Ferret Mike (#9)

Did you not know Hawaii is a state, not a Republic in Africa?

Do you?

TwentyTwelve  posted on  2008-11-25   23:14:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: bush_is_a_moonie (#6)

I wonder just how dumb a person has to be.

Wonder no more. People have to be pretty damned dumb to vote for someone who won't even produce a legitimate birth certificate or ANY documents which would show what a great mind he has (which is what his sycophants claim). Why all the secrecy if he is "all that and a bag of chips"? The people who fell for his continual chant of "change" and "hope" could well be beyond help.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2008-11-25   23:24:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: James Deffenbach, Horse (#14)

People have to be pretty damned dumb to vote for someone who won't even produce a legitimate birth certificate or ANY documents which would show what a great mind he has (which is what his sycophants claim).

http://theneinblog.blogspot.com/2008/11/kenya-ambassador-to-united-states-his.html

Kenyan Ambassador Peter Ogego just annouced to the whole world on live radio that our assumed President-elect Barack Hussein Obama was born in Kenya

22 NOVEMBER 2008: During a recent program aired on Detroit's WRIF 101 FM "Mike in the Morning" radio program a decision was made to make a phone call to the Kenyan Embassy in Washington D.C. for the obvious purpose of having a little fun and in order to congratulate Kenyan's on the occassion of Barack Obama's election.

During the course of the call Mike and his co-host Trudy were connected to the Ambassador's office and after a short conversation with a secretary the Ambassador, His Excellency Peter OGEGO, pictured below, picked up the call.

At approximately 12:30 into the MP3 recording another of Mike's co-hosts asks Ambassador, "President-elect Obama's birthplace over in Kenya, is that going to be a national spot to go visit, where he was born?"

Ambassador Ogego responds, "It's, um, already an attraction. His, his, uh, pateral grandmother is still alive..."

The questioner then interjects, "But his birthplace, they'll put up a marker there?"

Ambassador Ogego responds, "It depends on the government, it's already well known."

Kenyan Ambassador Peter Ogego just annouced to the whole world on live radio that our assumed President-elect Barack Hussein Obama was born in Kenya, his birthplace is already an attraction, and placing a marker is up to the Kenyan government, but the location is already well known, intimating the the location does not need anything further to distinguish it.

This admission is a confirmation of the multiple statements made by Obama's paternal grandmother, referenced by Ambassador Ogego, about Obama's Kenyan birthplace.

Listen to the call via MP3 provided by Mike in the Morning and WRIF.

TwentyTwelve  posted on  2008-11-25   23:27:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: TwentyTwelve (#15)

I am not surprised he was born in Kenya. What is a bit surprising is that people have fallen for that con man in such numbers. Absolutely amazing. Guess it is proof of P.T. Barnum's adage about the number of suckers born every minute. And he may have been far too conservative.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2008-11-25   23:31:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: James Deffenbach (#16)

What is a bit surprising is that people have fallen for that con man in such numbers. Absolutely amazing.

Absolutely amazing.

TwentyTwelve  posted on  2008-11-25   23:41:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: TwentyTwelve (#17)

Whats amazing is that anybody is dumb enough to keep discussing this propaganda. Then again, if you want to draw attention away from the important issues because you are anti-American then I guess it would make sense to keep focusing on this crap.

While you play this childish crap Americans are dying in immoral and unnecessary wars, our economy is being destroyed and our rights are being eliminiated. But go on about your merry little way if you are so desperate for attention. All you do by continuing this is show what a pitiful, anti-America type of person you are. Hell while you waste your time on this Obama could be doing things that further destroy our country. But if you need the attention then go right ahead.

bush_is_a_moonie  posted on  2008-11-25   23:56:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: bush_is_a_moonie (#18)

Are you so retarded that you don't think it makes any difference that Obama wasn't born in this country? The founders who wrote the Constitution thought it mattered.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2008-11-25   23:58:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: James Deffenbach (#14)

Why all the secrecy if he is "all that and a bag of chips"?

You ever stop to think (and I know that is a big if for you) that this could be part of the plan to draw attention away from the damage being done to our country? P.T. Barnum said a sucker is born every minute and those who put out this propaganda and get people to spend time discussing it prove he was 100% correct.

bush_is_a_moonie  posted on  2008-11-25   23:58:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: James Deffenbach (#19)

Rather than focus on meaningless issues (again, those like you do this type of garbage just to get attention). I'd be willing to bet you are either a closet bush supporter or have some psychological issues/problems. Gay? Pedophillia? Severe depression. The state of Hawaii has verified the birth certificate - get on with important issues.

bush_is_a_moonie  posted on  2008-11-26   0:01:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: James Deffenbach, Twenty Twelve (#19)

Methinks the O'bots are worried. Thus their testiness since I think in their heart of hearts (or a reasonable substitute thereof) they know that the jig is up.

"The difference between an honorable man and a moral man is that an honorable man regrets a discreditable act even when it has worked and he is in no danger of being caught." ~ H. L. Mencken

Original_Intent  posted on  2008-11-26   0:04:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: bush_is_a_moonie (#21)

I thought you were a moron. Your post proves it conclusively. Bush supporter? Find a post I have EVER written supportive of that dumbass. Gay? Pedophile? Not hardly. The only thing you even mentioned that could even come close is that depression thing--it depresses me that there are so many dumbasses (like you) in this country who think it is fine to have a foreigner elected as President even though it is clearly unconstitutional.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2008-11-26   0:05:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: bush_is_a_moonie (#21)

how about you just hit that little ol' ignore thread button?

christine  posted on  2008-11-26   0:06:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: Original_Intent (#22)

Methinks the O'bots are worried. Thus their testiness since I think in their heart of hearts (or a reasonable substitute thereof) they know that the jig is up.

I want to believe there is hope for the younger ones that supported him out of their innocence and blind trust. It's quite possible that they will wake up in six months to a year and know for sure that they have been royally screwed. But I don't think there is any hope for anyone much older than around 25 who voted for him and who are constantly defending him.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2008-11-26   0:08:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: bush_is_a_moonie (#18)

Whats amazing is that anybody is dumb enough to keep discussing this propaganda. Then again, if you want to draw attention away from the important issues because you are anti-American then I guess it would make sense to keep focusing on this crap.

While you play this childish crap Americans are dying in immoral and unnecessary wars, our economy is being destroyed and our rights are being eliminiated. But go on about your merry little way if you are so desperate for attention. All you do by continuing this is show what a pitiful, anti-America type of person you are. Hell while you waste your time on this Obama could be doing things that further destroy our country. But if you need the attention then go right ahead

What is wrong with you?

Are you drunk?

You are not making any sense At all!

TwentyTwelve  posted on  2008-11-26   0:09:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: James Deffenbach, TwentyTwelve (#16)

I am not surprised he was born in Kenya. What is a bit surprising is that people have fallen for that con man in such numbers. Absolutely amazing. Guess it is proof of P.T. Barnum's adage about the number of suckers born every minute. And he may have been far too conservative.

What do you expect with the media passing out the Kool-Aide making sure everyone gets a sip?


Meet the new boss, same as the old boss — The Who

farmfriend  posted on  2008-11-26   0:11:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: Original_Intent (#22)

Go ask the members of the Ramos and Compeon families what is more important, getting their family members out of prison because they did nothing wrong but just enforce the law or some meaningless propaganda about a birth certificate.

Go ask Pat Tillman's family here in AZ what is more important making sure that American troops are brought home or if they should be killed in these immoral wars that the families are told the truth about why and how or some meaningless propaganda about a birth certificate.

Go ask those citizens (and their families) who have been held in prison for years and often tortured without access to the court system or legal representation what is more important.

Go ask people whose economic future is being intentionally destroyed by the U.S. government what is more important.

Grow up.

bush_is_a_moonie  posted on  2008-11-26   0:12:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: farmfriend (#27)

What do you expect with the media passing out the Kool-Aide making sure everyone gets a sip?

I'm glad that some people had sense enough to turn them down on their "free" Kook Aid. Seems a good many have quaffed gallons of it though and made up for those of us who abstained.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2008-11-26   0:13:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: James Deffenbach (#23)

It appears that Obama has the sheeple mesmerized.

TwentyTwelve  posted on  2008-11-26   0:13:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: christine (#24)

how about you just hit that little ol' ignore thread button?

We could be so lucky.


Meet the new boss, same as the old boss — The Who

farmfriend  posted on  2008-11-26   0:14:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: TwentyTwelve (#26)

Get away from me loser. It is idiots like you that are making the destruction of our country possible. And again, why did you steal the name from the other person on LP? Reputation so bad using original name that you had to change it?

bush_is_a_moonie  posted on  2008-11-26   0:14:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: TwentyTwelve (#30)

It appears that Obama has the sheeple mesmerized.

Yeah, sad ain't it?

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2008-11-26   0:14:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: James Deffenbach (#29)

I'm glad that some people had sense enough to turn them down on their "free" Kook Aid. Seems a good many have quaffed gallons of it though and made up for those of us who abstained.

Half the public is below the 50%tile and the dead don't have many brain cells left. I'm sure ACORN was able to register enough to make up those who didn't drink the Kool-Aide.


Meet the new boss, same as the old boss — The Who

farmfriend  posted on  2008-11-26   0:16:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: christine (#24)

I should just ignore cowards and idiots who are part of the problem with respect to the future of my country? Unlike a few, I am not a coward. I told you before these idiots who discuss this crap instead of genuine issues are either paid neocon shills, fools desperate for attention or they just hate America. If they don't care about the real issues then just say so and admit they don't give a damn about our country and the future of our children and their children.

bush_is_a_moonie  posted on  2008-11-26   0:17:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: James Deffenbach, farmfriend, Original_Intenrt (#29)

I'm glad that some people had sense enough to turn them down on their "free" Kook Aid.

That kook aid is some pretty powerful stuff.

It appears to put the sheeple into some kind of an Obama spell in which Obama gains total control of their mind. The sheeple (while under this Obama spell) must defend, support, and obey Obama at any and all costs.

TwentyTwelve  posted on  2008-11-26   0:20:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: bush_is_a_moonie (#35)

Put down the bottle. You have had enough tonight!

TwentyTwelve  posted on  2008-11-26   0:22:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: farmfriend (#34)

Half the public is below the 50%tile

And a good many who are still up walking around, taking up space and air are pretty close to brain dead.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2008-11-26   0:23:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: TwentyTwelve (#36)

I can see what has happened to this forum. It has become another LP. Well tell ya what. You sick perverts don't care about the future of our country then get the fuck out because as far as I am concerned you are just as much an enemy of America and Americans as are the neocons.

bush_is_a_moonie  posted on  2008-11-26   0:23:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: James Deffenbach (#38)

Get out of my country coward. I watched my bros die in another unnecessary and immoral war because cowards like you were not willing to stand up and fight against Johnson and his scumbags. The difference between real Americans who love this country and those like you are when it comes to defending and supporting our country you run and hide.

bush_is_a_moonie  posted on  2008-11-26   0:25:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: TwentyTwelve (#36)

That kook aid is some pretty powerful stuff.

It appears to put the sheeple into some kind of an Obama spell in which Obama gains total control of their mind. The sheeple (while under this Obama spell) must defend, support, and obey Obama at any and all costs.

It is apparently more powerful than the strongest white lightning. They seem to be in a perpetual daze and all they can say is "Obama good, people who don't like Obama are Bush supporters." Of course that pretty much proves they are full of crap since I have never voted for Bush and not for ANY establishment candidate in many, many years.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2008-11-26   0:25:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: bush_is_a_moonie (#40) (Edited)

Get out of my country coward.

Who are you to tell me, or anyone else, to "get out of" the country? It is NOT "your country" no matter how many times you voted for your Obamasiah. People like you screw the country up voting for, and defending, establishment whores and you want to blame everyone else for the troubles you have helped to create. Bite me.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2008-11-26   0:27:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: James Deffenbach (#41)

You are a pussy and a keyboard coward and an embarassment to American vets and those who have died for this country. I live in Phx AZ and any time you want to bring your coward commie ways here just let me know and I'll give you the opportunity to find out how much I love this country... pussy.

bush_is_a_moonie  posted on  2008-11-26   0:28:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: bush_is_a_moonie (#43) (Edited)

You are a moron finding courage in the bottom of a bottle no doubt. I feel sorry for you since you are, or seem to be, pretty close to brain dead. And if you loved the country so much, as you claim to, you wouldn't be defending Obama the way you are. So go piss up a rope.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2008-11-26   0:30:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: TwentyTwelve, James Deffenbach, christine, Original_Intent (#36)


Meet the new boss, same as the old boss — The Who

farmfriend  posted on  2008-11-26   0:30:32 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: James Deffenbach (#44)

You got the balls to stand up to this old vet? I'm tired of cowards like you. Ever hear about those who were shot in the back in country by their own? Thank goodness I never saw it but I can understand why it was done to cowards like you.

bush_is_a_moonie  posted on  2008-11-26   0:32:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: bush_is_a_moonie (#43)

You have totally lost your mind.

How much sleep have you had recently?

TwentyTwelve  posted on  2008-11-26   0:33:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#48. To: farmfriend (#45)

That cartoon pretty much sums it up.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2008-11-26   0:33:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: bush_is_a_moonie (#46)

Make your idiotic threats to someone who might be impressed by them. That wouldn't be me.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2008-11-26   0:34:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: TwentyTwelve (#47)

run and hide coward. Real Americans will keep up the fight to turn our country around. I'm sick of you punks and your big mouths. For you this all is just a game. But then again, you probably think you can run and hide behind momma's skirt when it gets too bad.

bush_is_a_moonie  posted on  2008-11-26   0:35:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#51. To: James Deffenbach (#49)

That's right coward. Run and hide little pussy.

bush_is_a_moonie  posted on  2008-11-26   0:35:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#52. To: James Deffenbach (#44)

Is bush_is_a_moonie going to be like this during the entire Obama administration?

How long will the Obama spell last?

TwentyTwelve  posted on  2008-11-26   0:36:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#53. To: bush_is_a_moonie (#50)

Why don't you sleep it off? You sound like someone the men in white coats are searching for and hoping to find before he hurts himself or climbs a tower and starts shooting innocent people.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2008-11-26   0:37:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#54. To: farmfriend (#45)

Good one.

So much for the Obama change.

TwentyTwelve  posted on  2008-11-26   0:37:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#55. To: TwentyTwelve (#37) (Edited)

Hegelion Dialectic

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bKbwkrVJ-sE&feature=related problem

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tgiR04ey7-M reaction

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K3dAnSMzUlo solution

real-debt-elimination

Itisa1mosttoolate  posted on  2008-11-26   0:38:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#56. To: TwentyTwelve (#52)

Is bush_is_a_moonie going to be like this during the entire Obama administration?

How long will the Obama spell last?

Nah, if he keeps this stupidity up he will either have a stroke or heart attack OR someone will get tired of his stupid crap and take him out.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2008-11-26   0:38:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#57. To: bush_is_a_moonie (#51)

TwentyTwelve  posted on  2008-11-26   0:40:17 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#58. To: Itisa1mosttoolate (#55)

Thanks.

TwentyTwelve  posted on  2008-11-26   0:41:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#59. To: TwentyTwelve (#57)

Oh I like that one. Sigh can't save them all though. Gotta have room for more smilies.


Meet the new boss, same as the old boss — The Who

farmfriend  posted on  2008-11-26   0:43:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#60. To: bush_is_a_moonie (#18)

While you play this childish crap Americans are dying in immoral and unnecessary wars, our economy is being destroyed and our rights are being eliminiated.

Regardless of the merit of the Obama birth certificate issue, Americans will continue to die in immoral and unnecessary wars, our economy will continue being destroyed and our rights will continue being eliminiated when Obama takes office.

The man has filled his entire staff with pro-war Israeli firsters. The man he wants as his national security advisor wants to put US troops in Israel and move more troops into Afghanistan. His central planning economic policies will only make matters worse for the average man and woman while enriching the very people responsible for the problem in the first place. Obama voted for the Patriot Act and for it's extension and has no intentions of trying to repeal it. You can bet your ass that his administration will abuse it though, just like the Bushtards before them.

You need to give up on this idea that Obama is here to bring change. It just ain't gonna happen. Insanity is voting for a Republicrat or Democan and think they will bring change.

"The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media." ~ William Colby, Director, CIA 1973–1976

F.A. Hayek Fan  posted on  2008-11-26   0:44:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#61. To: TwentyTwelve (#57)

Good one.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2008-11-26   0:45:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#62. To: Hayek Fan (#60)

I didn't vote for Obama and I don't support him. But what pisses me off is how these idiots would rather discuss meaningless crap while the future of our country is going down the shitter.

bush_is_a_moonie  posted on  2008-11-26   0:47:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#63. To: bush_is_a_moonie (#62)

It is not "meaningless crap" that the man who will most likely be sworn in as the next President of this country is not even eligible to serve. And this is according to his own grandmother--the one in Africa, not the "typical white" grandmother that he threw under the bus, cried crocodile tears for when she died and didn't even go back to Hawaii to bury her. No, not "meaningless crap" at all.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2008-11-26   0:53:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#64. To: bush_is_a_moonie (#62)

I didn't vote for Obama and I don't support him.

My apologies. I misunderstood.

"The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media." ~ William Colby, Director, CIA 1973–1976

F.A. Hayek Fan  posted on  2008-11-26   0:54:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#65. To: TwentyTwelve, christine, James Deffenbach, farmfriend, bush_is_a_moonie (#36)

That kook aid is some pretty powerful stuff.

It appears to put the sheeple into some kind of an Obama spell in which Obama gains total control of their mind. The sheeple (while under this Obama spell) must defend, support, and obey Obama at any and all costs.

C'mon guys shouldn't we be talking about something more important like the Cauliflower Shortage.

After all what does it matter if the President of the United States enters office under fraud.

Everybody does it. Right?

'Scuse me while I wash down my Prozac with a double shot of Bacardi 151.

"The difference between an honorable man and a moral man is that an honorable man regrets a discreditable act even when it has worked and he is in no danger of being caught." ~ H. L. Mencken

Original_Intent  posted on  2008-11-26   0:55:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#66. To: Original_Intent (#65)

C'mon guys shouldn't we be talking about something more important like the Cauliflower Shortage.

After all what does it matter if the President of the United States enters office under fraud.

Everybody does it. Right?

'Scuse me while I wash down my Prozac with a double shot of Bacardi 151.

Good post.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2008-11-26   0:56:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#67. To: Original_Intent (#65)

C'mon guys shouldn't we be talking about something more important like the Cauliflower Shortage.

After all what does it matter if the President of the United States enters office under fraud.

Everybody does it. Right?

'Scuse me while I wash down my Prozac with a double shot of Bacardi 151.

Good post. Thanks for the laugh.

TwentyTwelve  posted on  2008-11-26   1:00:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#68. To: James Deffenbach (#66)

The Devil made me do it. ;-)

"The difference between an honorable man and a moral man is that an honorable man regrets a discreditable act even when it has worked and he is in no danger of being caught." ~ H. L. Mencken

Original_Intent  posted on  2008-11-26   1:00:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#69. To: TwentyTwelve (#67)

Thank you, and my pleasure.

"The difference between an honorable man and a moral man is that an honorable man regrets a discreditable act even when it has worked and he is in no danger of being caught." ~ H. L. Mencken

Original_Intent  posted on  2008-11-26   1:01:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#70. To: James Deffenbach (#63)

It is not "meaningless crap" that the man who will most likely be sworn in as the next President of this country is not even eligible to serve

Bush_is_a_ Moonie is NOT concerned that we will soon have an illegal President.

Bush_is_a_ Moonie must NOT care about the U.S. Constitution.

TwentyTwelve  posted on  2008-11-26   1:04:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#71. To: TwentyTwelve (#70)

He surely doesn't seem to care about it.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2008-11-26   1:05:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#72. To: bush_is_a_moonie (#51)

That's right coward. Run and hide little pussy.

Simplifizieren Sie Arsch, halbes Gehirn Lügen Otard.

Könnte es je Ihnen einfallen, dass Sie verlangsamen, sind, durch der VERSUCHEN die Auswahl von einem illegalen Fremden zu Präsidenten zu fegen, ist Teil vom Problem?

Wischen Sie Ihren Arsch mit der Verfassung oder der Aussage der Unabhängigkeit?

"Not the victory but the action; Not the goal but the game; In the deed the glory" Dies ist gut

Beendigen Sie die Kommunisten  posted on  2008-11-26   2:28:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#73. To: bush_is_a_moonie (#35)

I am not a coward.

By definition you are a coward. Everyone who voted for Obama is. You need the government to provide for you. You are a waste of skin. They used to make lampshades out of folk like you.

Old Friend  posted on  2008-11-26   7:32:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#74. To: Ferret Mike (#7)

Go Abort yourself.

God is always good!

RickyJ  posted on  2008-11-26   9:17:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#75. To: bush_is_a_moonie (#18)

Whats amazing is that anybody is dumb enough to keep discussing this propaganda.

Propaganda? The dude has not produced a legitimate birth certificate yet. It is not propaganda moron, it is REALITY. If you think the Constitution of the USA is "childish crap" then GO ABORT YOURSELF LOSER.

God is always good!

RickyJ  posted on  2008-11-26   9:24:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#76. To: Old Friend (#73)

They used to make lampshades out of folk like you.

They never did any such thing.

God is always good!

RickyJ  posted on  2008-11-26   9:27:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#77. To: RickyJ (#74)

I'm not in favor of abortion, Ricky Retardo. Why am I not surprised you secretly are for it?


"You only have power over people so long as you don't take everything away from them. But when you've robbed a man of everything he's no longer in your power -- he's free again. Alexander Solzhenitsyn

Ferret Mike  posted on  2008-11-26   12:03:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#78. To: christine (#24)

He's a grown up, if he wants to do that, he will with no prompting. Why are you annoyed at the debate on this?

Why don't you put the thread on ignore?


"You only have power over people so long as you don't take everything away from them. But when you've robbed a man of everything he's no longer in your power -- he's free again. Alexander Solzhenitsyn

Ferret Mike  posted on  2008-11-26   12:11:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#79. To: Beendigen Sie die Kommunisten (#72) (Edited)

oder der Aussage der Unabhängigkeit?

Unabhängigkeitserklärung

When going on a German bender,
Learn your tense and case and gender.
Don't submit the tongue to crucifixion,
Please stick with common usage & good diction.

randge  posted on  2008-11-26   12:59:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#80. To: Ferret Mike (#78)

uh, Mike..give me a break. have you read the thread? have you read who's complaining? i'm not the one who's annoyed. i'm not the one trying to control and censor what others post. meanwhile, i AM the one who's getting pms requesting censor and even ban! we have solutions. ignore thread, filtering of individuals, and filtering of entire categories. plus the fact that anyone is free to post their own articles on topics of interest.

christine  posted on  2008-11-26   13:18:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#81. To: christine, TwentyTwelve, Original_Intent, James Deffenbach (#80)

i AM the one who's getting pms requesting censor and even ban!

That's disgusting. Bush is being an ass but that doesn't mean he should be banned or censored. We should not fall prey to the temptation of acting like lefties and controlling everyone’s speech. Do we believe in freedoms or not? If we do then we have to take the bad with the good. We don’t need or want another FR or LP where dissenting opinions are not welcome. That's why we are here right?

Christine, I applaud your ability to hold back and allow free speech here.


Meet the new boss, same as the old boss — The Who

farmfriend  posted on  2008-11-26   13:26:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#82. To: farmfriend, christine, all (#81)

We don’t need or want another FR or LP where dissenting opinions are not welcome. That's why we are here right?

Christine, I applaud your ability to hold back and allow free speech here.

Well said and amen.

Iran Truth Now!

Lod  posted on  2008-11-26   13:32:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#83. To: Ferret Mike (#78)

He's a grown up, if he wants to do that, he will with no prompting. Why are you annoyed at the debate on this?

Why don't you put the thread on ignore?

The radical left never ceases to amaze me. In this one post you not only put yourself in someone else's shoes, uninvited, but you also tell the owner of this forum how she should behave. Do you realize she moderates the Forum and needs to see these inane comments? Your need to control speech is a prime example of what we can expect from Obama's administration. You're a speech fascist and anyone who can't see through you is blind.

Morris Dancing - put your ass up in the air

Yellow Cake  posted on  2008-11-26   13:38:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#84. To: Yellow Cake (#83)

The radical left won't be happy until every American is just like Bill Ayers.

God is always good!

RickyJ  posted on  2008-11-26   13:43:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#85. To: bush_is_a_moonie (#39) (Edited)

You sick perverts don't care about the future of our country then get the fuck out because as far as I am concerned you are just as much an enemy of America and Americans as are the neocons.

WTF is up with that??

Anybody disinvite you from this country? From this forum?

Your arguments on this thread are inane and non-starters here. You come on with Ramos and Compean and Pat Tillman, etc. etc. Do you think anyone here can sit still for what happened to these men? You're barking up the wrong tree, dawg.

You're not a patriot at all. That's just a pose. You are a lapdawg for your master, 'Bama who appoints the same sad sack old white men & Clinton leftovers along with whatever viscious hawks and neo-cons climbers that he can round up for the next war.

You're a phony. Phonies are easy to spot because they alway suck up to other phonies, like your boy there with his secret scholarship, secret college records, secret legislative record, secret client lists, secret . . .

He's a shell and you're a shill.

randge  posted on  2008-11-26   13:44:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#86. To: RickyJ (#84)

Ayres is another person who the left would rather we not talk about. Their game plan is simple; when you get close to an uncomfortable topic, they kick up dust to deflect the conversation.

Morris Dancing - put your ass up in the air

Yellow Cake  posted on  2008-11-26   13:50:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#87. To: Yellow Cake (#83)

"...but you also tell the owner of this forum how she should behave."

Where did I do that? I didn't even say she misbehaved.

I merely suggested she do the same thing she suggests to bush is a moonie to make a point, nothing more.

Another thing, I consider her a friend, and I never pander to a friend by not saying exactly what is on my mind, got it?


"You only have power over people so long as you don't take everything away from them. But when you've robbed a man of everything he's no longer in your power -- he's free again. Alexander Solzhenitsyn

Ferret Mike  posted on  2008-11-26   14:27:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#88. To: farmfriend, christine, TwentyTwelve, Original_Intent, James Deffenbach (#81)

Christine, I applaud your ability to hold back and allow free speech here.

I ... 100% agree ... thanks !

Where's your birth certificate Barack ?

noone222  posted on  2008-11-26   14:34:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#89. To: christine (#80)

Heh, and this is your kitchen, I know you can take the heat.

When you do that sort of post in open forum and not in PM, you come across as being motivated by designs to steer the topic.

This tempest in a teapot deserves none of the headlining it gets in here and on other forums.

Where is the outrage at two men from the same state serving in the POTUS and VPOTUS slot dispute the Constitutional prohibition of that?

Where is the outrage at a man running for POTUS for the Republicans born a year before the Congressional act calling people born in the Panama Canal Zone citizens from running?

Where is the outrage at the election fraud in Florida in 2000 and Ohio in 2004?

Much of the hatred of Barack Obama is race and ideology oriented, which is why this contrived issue gets play, and nothing else involved about Constitutional and other legal issues surrounding who serves or runs for president sees the light of day in here.

You may disagree, but this is my opinion. Besides, personality-wise I am the sort that loves an opportunity to tweak a host's nose on an issue. All you do by taking issue with that is amuse me. ;-D


"You only have power over people so long as you don't take everything away from them. But when you've robbed a man of everything he's no longer in your power -- he's free again. Alexander Solzhenitsyn

Ferret Mike  posted on  2008-11-26   14:38:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#90. To: Ferret Mike (#89)

Where is the outrage at the election fraud in Florida in 2000 and Ohio in 2004?

Just a wild guess, but perhaps the more recent the material the more play it gets? Ya' think? But be my guest. Hang up a post on either of the above topics and prove me wrong.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-11-26   14:47:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#91. To: Ferret Mike (#89)

Where is the outrage at the election fraud in Florida in 2000 and Ohio in 2004?

What election fraud?

God is always good!

RickyJ  posted on  2008-11-26   14:50:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#92. To: Ferret Mike (#89)

which is why this contrived issue gets play, and nothing else involved about Constitutional and other legal issues surrounding who serves or runs for president sees the light of day in here.

Maybe it's time we all decided whether the CONstitution is or isn't the fundamental law ... irrespective of skin color.

Obama is a communist. If America wants to dabble in communism they've picked the right guy. You should admit your communist leanings and be up front about it. I know you're smarter than the typical groupie, or messiah chaser. To support this communist shill and then act patriotic in view of Obama's background and voluminous associations is simply disingenuous on your part.

I don't care which of these puppets upsets the apple-cart ... I just hope they hurry up, I'm fuckin tired of waiting.

Where's your birth certificate Barack ?

noone222  posted on  2008-11-26   14:58:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#93. To: RickyJ (#91)

If you don't know the answer to that one by now sonny boie, I sure can't help you none.


"You only have power over people so long as you don't take everything away from them. But when you've robbed a man of everything he's no longer in your power -- he's free again. Alexander Solzhenitsyn

Ferret Mike  posted on  2008-11-26   15:01:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#94. To: Ferret Mike (#89)

There's lotsa, lotsa outrage here and not just about Obama.

You're right about Cheney and Bush. But the constitution doesn't say that two men from the same state may not serve together, exactly. It says the Electors cannot vote for candidates from their own state for both offices. Which puts the 32 votes of Texas electors in question.

Yeah, I'm outraged. I'm outraged at warrantless wiretapping, "Patriot Act" horrors, torture, and the whole host of unconstitutional vomit we've been forced to endure. From Cheney. From Bush. I sense that I'm not alone here.

About that puke McCain. The story of his citizenship is a bit equivocal, from what I've read. Post a thread fellah. I'm exhausted, really. I'll read what you say with interest.

But the deal with 'Bama has nothing to do with RACE. It has to do with the fear that we are soon to put a man into office as fully as COMPROMISED as Bill Clinton. We're to see Roberts swear in a man who's the least accomplished exec that I've seen in my lifetime, who seemingly has the most to hide, and who is the most BOUGHT of any candidate in human memory. Billions by vampires like Soros who have no love for this country.

Outrage? I've got bucket loads for the entire ruling class in this Republic, and I'll be damned if I sit still and see this man and his cabinet of freshly minted war hawks given the keys to the executive machinery, the Pentagon, and our entire nuclear arsenal before I see his ID.

randge  posted on  2008-11-26   15:16:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#95. To: randge (#94)

I'll be damned if I sit still and see this man and his cabinet of freshly minted war hawks given the keys to the executive machinery, the Pentagon, and our entire nuclear arsenal before I see his ID.

Damn good point.

Godfrey Smith: Mike, I wouldn't worry. Prosperity is just around the corner.
Mike Flaherty: Yeah, it's been there a long time. I wish I knew which corner.
My Man Godfrey (1936)

Esso  posted on  2008-11-26   15:23:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#96. To: Ferret Mike (#89)

You, a person that approves of increasing troops in Afghanistan and thus increasing the number of dead innocents, speak of outrage?

Much of the hatred of Barack Obama is race and ideology oriented

More ADL/SPLC talking points. Do you sit on Abe Foxman's shoulder and ask for crackers, too?

Eff the Bankers

bluegrass  posted on  2008-11-26   15:26:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#97. To: randge (#94)

reddited.

Eff the Bankers

bluegrass  posted on  2008-11-26   15:27:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#98. To: randge (#94)

"It says the Electors cannot vote for candidates from their own state for both offices. Which puts the 32 votes of Texas electors in question."

Which posts that entire election in question.


"You only have power over people so long as you don't take everything away from them. But when you've robbed a man of everything he's no longer in your power -- he's free again. Alexander Solzhenitsyn

Ferret Mike  posted on  2008-11-26   15:31:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#99. To: Ferret Mike (#98)

Which posts that entire election in question.

You're almost ready to leave the temple, grasshopper. That's been the point all along.

Eff the Bankers

bluegrass  posted on  2008-11-26   15:32:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#100. To: randge, bluegrass, scrapper2, lodwick, christine, Turtle, JethroTull, Horse (#85)

like your boy there with his secret scholarship, secret college records, secret legislative record, secret client lists . . .

If these things were disclosed, what might you think they would reveal?

I've often thought about that but arrive at no conclusion.

The fact that this guy managed to run for president or the Senate or whatever without disclosing the above is simply staggaring. Frankly I can't wrap my head around it all..

Lady X  posted on  2008-11-26   15:32:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#101. To: Lady X (#100)

If these things were disclosed, what might you think they would reveal?

That Obama's a fake, a fraud and a phony that would make even DC gasp.

Eff the Bankers

bluegrass  posted on  2008-11-26   15:34:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#102. To: Esso (#95)

Dayum. Make ya mad, don't it?

But, Ferret. He's fine with it.

Maybe not. He's taking about lines in the sand we should have drawn yesterday. And there, he's right.

What we have before us today, however, is breathtaking.

randge  posted on  2008-11-26   15:35:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#103. To: randge (#94)

t has to do with the fear that we are soon to put a man into office as fully as COMPROMISED as Bill Clinton. We're to see Roberts swear in a man who's the least accomplished exec that I've seen in my lifetime, who seemingly has the most to hide, and who is the most BOUGHT of any candidate in human memory. Billions by vampires like Soros who have no love for this country.

Fyi...a quote I found on Google...what Obama represents - the culmination of creeping socialism...

In 1959 Eisenhower asked Ezra Taft Benson to teach Nikita Khrushchev about Agriculture. Ezra relayed a conversation...... "Your children will live under communism." Khrushchev said. "On the contrary," Secretary Benson replied, "My grandchildren will live in freedom as I hope that all people will." Khrushchev then retorted: "You Americans are so gullible. No, you won't accept Communism outright; but we'll keep feeding you small doses of Socialism until you will finally wake up and find that you already have Communism. We won't have to fight you; we'll so weaken your economy, until you fall like overripe fruit into our hands."

scrapper2  posted on  2008-11-26   15:36:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#104. To: Ferret Mike (#98)

Which posts that entire election in question.

Yeah, TWO stolen elections.

You think that folks don't know that here??

You think that everyone here is a stupid racist, Johnny-one-note, Obama hater.

I've lived and worked with black people all my life, and my concerns have nothing to do with the COLOR of Obama. They have to do with the MAN.

randge  posted on  2008-11-26   15:42:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#105. To: bluegrass (#101)

That Obama's a fake, a fraud and a phony that would make even DC gasp.

Gimme a break, I need details already..

This is me, remember..

Lady X  posted on  2008-11-26   15:44:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#106. To: randge (#104) (Edited)

"You think that everyone here is a stupid racist, Johnny-one- note, Obama hater."

If I thought that, I'd be here as much as I am at StormFront.com which is never. ;-D


"You only have power over people so long as you don't take everything away from them. But when you've robbed a man of everything he's no longer in your power -- he's free again. Alexander Solzhenitsyn

Ferret Mike  posted on  2008-11-26   15:45:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#107. To: Lady X (#105)

I need details already..

We all do. But we can surmise it based on history and our own experience.

Eff the Bankers

bluegrass  posted on  2008-11-26   15:46:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#108. To: Ferret Mike (#106)

If I thought that, I'd be here as much as I am at StormFront.com which is never. ;-D

Cheers.

randge  posted on  2008-11-26   15:47:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#109. To: Ferret Mike (#89)

This tempest in a teapot

Questions of constitutional eligibility are just mere trifles, eh?

Eff the Bankers

bluegrass  posted on  2008-11-26   15:49:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#110. To: bluegrass (#107)

Do you think it would disclose he never graduated from college or something like that? Or a criminal record of some sort?

Do you think he could get a security clearence?

Lady X  posted on  2008-11-26   15:49:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#111. To: Lady X (#110)

Do you think he could get a security clearence?

Never. They claim to give him briefings though.

Eff the Bankers

bluegrass  posted on  2008-11-26   15:52:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#112. To: Lady X (#110)

They wouldn't even let him "sweep up the White House."

Or even Rahm's office.

randge  posted on  2008-11-26   15:52:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#113. To: randge (#112)

Good to see Obama continuing to roll out his retread economic team while Mumbai (Bombay) is going up in flames...

Remember...G-d saved more animals than people on the ark. www.siameserescue.org

who knows what evil  posted on  2008-11-26   16:13:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#114. To: who knows what evil (#113) (Edited)

In Mumbai the shooters were looking for Brits and Americans ... to shoot ! 80 dead over 250 injured.

Arm yourselves !

Where's your birth certificate Barack ?

noone222  posted on  2008-11-26   16:17:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#115. To: RickyJ, Ferret Mike (#91)

What election fraud?

The election fraud in Floriduh 2000 was done by Dems. This was a chess move on the part of the elites. I could explain in depth but hate to take this thread even more off topic. There may have been some Rep fraud in Ohio in 2004. I'd have to read up on that one. The Dems stole the Gov seat in Washington through fraud. I actually consider this our biggest National problem. This mess needs to be cleaned up and integrity restored to our election process. Course we all know why it won't happen.


Meet the new boss, same as the old boss — The Who

farmfriend  posted on  2008-11-26   16:31:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#116. To: Ferret Mike, randge (#98) (Edited)

Which posts that entire election in question.

Yes it does and we have to draw the line somewhere. In your opinion we have drawn it too late and you could be right but we can't change the past, we can only go forward. We must force both the left and the right to stop the fraud and not support candidates because they have the same ideology as ourselves.

You should not have supported this candidate because of the fraud envolved. I rejected both him and McCain.


Meet the new boss, same as the old boss — The Who

farmfriend  posted on  2008-11-26   16:38:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#117. To: Lady X (#100)

If these things were disclosed, what might you think they would reveal?

I've often thought about that but arrive at no conclusion.

The fact that this guy managed to run for president or the Senate or whatever without disclosing the above is simply staggaring. Frankly I can't wrap my head around it all..

Running for Senate does not require being "natural born" nor does running for Senate demand -per past precedent of other Presidential candidates - the same level of disclosures.

My guess is that Obama is not natural born and furthermore I suspect that the transcripts of his marks would show that he did not properly warrant or earn his summa cum laude graduation label from Harvard Law School. The health records needed to be held back because to release them without releasing his transcripts and hospital record of live birth would be way too suspicious so he and his handlers decided it was best to keep all records confidential.

But hey, I'm only guessing - maybe even the health records were problematic.

I suspect that Obama was most likely chosen by the power brokers because he had a number of skeletons in his closet whatever they may be and he could be easily manipulated as a result.

scrapper2  posted on  2008-11-26   16:58:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#118. To: scrapper2, Lady X, christine (#117)

I suspect that Obama was most likely chosen by the power brokers because he had a number of skeletons in his closet whatever they may be and he could be easily manipulated as a result.

To ramp it up a notch, I think Obama was picked precisely to cause civil unrest in order to create an excuse for the clampdown. If he gets in, a fairly large segment of the population will be rightfully angered at the complete disregard for law. If he doesn't get in, another large segment of the crowd could also be driven to violence.

Either way, it's win/win for the Money Powers that back Bracko and Homeland Security.

Eff the Bankers

bluegrass  posted on  2008-11-26   17:05:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#119. To: noone222 (#114)

In Mumbai the shooters were looking for Brits and Americans

Unpossible, there aren't enough jews in Bombay to stir things up, there's no damn Iranian link ;-)

“The best and first guarantor of our neutrality and our independent existence is the defensive will of the people…and the proverbial marksmanship of the Swiss shooter. Each soldier a good marksman! Each shot a hit!”
-Schweizerische Schuetzenzeitung (Swiss Shooting Federation) April, 1941

X-15  posted on  2008-11-26   17:16:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#120. To: RickyJ (#75)

I realize that this birth certificate thing is nothing but BS propaganda to draw attention away from the important issues. While people focus on this meaningless propaganda the country is being destroyed.

bush_is_a_moonie  posted on  2008-11-26   20:54:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#121. To: bush_is_a_moonie (#120)

Why do you feel the need to direct people to what you consider important? The is a freaking chat room for crying out loud, not a national political movement. But you know that, right?

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-11-26   21:01:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#122. To: Jethro Tull (#121)

Because people have been misdirected since the 80s and it is how the anti-American neocons have been able to do the damage they have done. While people concentrate on meaningless issues those in power quietly continue their destruction of our country. It is a tactic that has been used by those in power for hundreds of years and this is how people in countries are fooled and tricked into accepting communism and dictatorships. Anybody in their right mind would know he wouldn't have gotten this far if in fact he was not a U.S. citizen. It is propaganda and nothing else.

bush_is_a_moonie  posted on  2008-11-26   21:05:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#123. To: bush_is_a_moonie (#122) (Edited)

Isn't it presumptuous of you to choose what we should and shouldn't discuss? Again, this is a chat room and people are free to participate or ignore what they choose. I feel very confident nothing nation changing will come from whatever we discuss.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-11-26   21:19:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#124. To: Jethro Tull (#121)

I think that B_i_a_M is a blowhard, and I am as excercised about the question of O's eligibilty as anyone, but the question "Why?" why is 'Bama doing this, is a nagging, nagging one.

Essex proposed this idea in a post to Mr. Spock on LP:

Why?

Marginalizes the opposition in the minds of those who don't pay attention closely. Clinton's handlers wanted the attention on Lewinsky. They could spin that into "prying into his personal life" and fluff off attacks about Ng Lap Seng, Riady, Ron Brown's trade trips etc. Obama's handlers (who are the same people who ran Clinton) don't mind the focus on his birth at all. If they are actually the ones promoting this, I have no way of knowing. But I'm confident they would like it to continue. Let's not discuss Eric Holder and Rahm Emmanuel. Let's talk about how the election is invalid because Obama was born in Kenya. Essex posted on 2008-11-24 19:56:05 ET Reply Trace

IOW's, it could all be a psyop to keep everyone busy while the Dems run their games on the folks. If it is such, it would follow a pattern like this: 1) Create a great stew that grabs the headlines for weeks and weeks until everyone is sick of it. 2) Keep it on a low, low boil for many months isolating O's detractors from the MSM watching sheep. 3) Keep it on the stove until ready - which is never. 4) Throw the whole mess into the trash when another administration takes office.

http://www.libertypost.org/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=247274&Disp=34#C34

Why? Who knows? We're running 100 meter sprints in the dark.

randge  posted on  2008-11-26   21:28:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#125. To: randge (#124)

I find the discussion of his BC interesting, and why the freak should we trust a politician or the machinery that surrounds him? I hope he gets busted and tossed out of office. Then again, I hope that for every president.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-11-26   21:32:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#126. To: Jethro Tull (#125)

I find it fascinating too.

It's illuminated many different corners of the guy's life, that of the gang that he came up with, and all kinds of dark and creepy places like the floorboards of Chicago politics where all the cockroaches hide.

It's fun to watch. It's like watching reptile disembowel and devour each other on the Nature Channel.

Reptiles, however, are somewhat different than politicians. Reptiles don't spend all their time devouring your investments and your home.

randge  posted on  2008-11-26   21:43:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#127. To: randge (#126)

It's illuminated many different corners of the guy's life, that of the gang that he came up with, and all kinds of dark and creepy places like the floorboards of Chicago politics where all the cockroaches hide.

What has me all sorts of curious is his mother, Stanley. Someone please tell me how does a single mother become a world traveler without any visible means of income? We know she was a fellow traveler, but what did she have to off? Tons of unanswered questions here, with Franklin Davis playing a role, for sure.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-11-26   21:50:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#128. To: Jethro Tull (#127)

How much money do you make writing dirty books, writing small town columns and being a communist?

Spooks.

randge  posted on  2008-11-26   21:56:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#129. To: Jethro Tull (#127)

What has me all sorts of curious is his mother, Stanley. Someone please tell me how does a single mother become a world traveler without any visible means of income? We know she was a fellow traveler, but what did she have to off?

And she was doing all her globe-trotting around the same time that BUBBA CLINTON was going all over Eastern Europe and the Soviet Union. How did HE finance HIS travels?? Is there a connection??? Hmmmm....

“The best and first guarantor of our neutrality and our independent existence is the defensive will of the people…and the proverbial marksmanship of the Swiss shooter. Each soldier a good marksman! Each shot a hit!”
-Schweizerische Schuetzenzeitung (Swiss Shooting Federation) April, 1941

X-15  posted on  2008-11-26   21:56:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#130. To: Jethro Tull (#127)

In the new era the red-diaper renegades will continue to control the same amount of air-time on networks news as they have for the last twenty years. They will continue to engage in philosophic war with red-diaper loyalists, conducting shallow yet flashy ad campaign complete with jingle enticing listener to one vision or another of police state.

And they write innumerable books; being too vain and distracted for silence: seeking every one after his own elevation, and dodging his emptiness. - T. S. Eliot

Dakmar  posted on  2008-11-26   22:00:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#131. To: X-15, randge, all (#129)

Good point about Clinton. I had forgotten all about those mysterious trips. Would it be KooKy of me to think outside political forces were working 24x7x365 to pull down our nation from the inside? I recall something about "all enemies, foreign and domestic." Silly us for being curious.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-11-26   22:00:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#132. To: Dakmar (#130)

I can't disagree with the two sides of the political equation we're treated to. That's why I don't participate in the political process. Too many disappointments; too little time left for me.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-11-26   22:04:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#133. To: Dakmar (#130)

Now there's a pithy post.

You just wonder. This Kabuki show has had a decent run. How long can they keep it up?

Probably as long as they intend to, I guess.

All at once, when they're tired of it they'll roll up the scenery, and when the lights come on, the audience will find the exit doors locked.

randge  posted on  2008-11-26   22:10:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#134. To: randge (#133)

You just wonder. This Kabuki show has had a decent run. How long can they keep it up?

What's the recidivist re-election rate for Congress? Something like 95% last time I heard.

And they write innumerable books; being too vain and distracted for silence: seeking every one after his own elevation, and dodging his emptiness. - T. S. Eliot

Dakmar  posted on  2008-11-26   22:15:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#135. To: bluegrass (#109) (Edited)

"Questions of constitutional eligibility are just mere trifles, eh?"

And what the fuck is wrong with a native born American serving as president?

Engage in mental masturbation all you want, but it boils down to he is very much qualified, wil be sworn in and will serve as president and do a very good job of it.


"You only have power over people so long as you don't take everything away from them. But when you've robbed a man of everything he's no longer in your power -- he's free again. Alexander Solzhenitsyn

Ferret Mike  posted on  2008-11-27   1:04:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#136. To: Ferret Mike, bluegrass (#135)

"Questions of constitutional eligibility are just mere trifles, eh?"

And what the fuck is wrong with a native born American serving as president?

Engage in mental masturbation all you want, but it boils down to he is very much qualified, wil be sworn in and will serve as president and do a very good job of it.

New Bong eh?

What do you use in it? Grape Kool-Aid?

Oh'Bummer is busily nominating the dark side of the political establishment, is very probably foreign born, and is busy sucking up to Wall Street and the Fed.

This is change?

Got Dope?

I know - silly question.

"The difference between an honorable man and a moral man is that an honorable man regrets a discreditable act even when it has worked and he is in no danger of being caught." ~ H. L. Mencken

Original_Intent  posted on  2008-11-27   1:42:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#137. To: Original_Intent, Ferret Mike, bluegrass (#136)

My new favorite cartoon


Meet the new boss, same as the old boss — The Who

farmfriend  posted on  2008-11-27   1:51:02 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#138. To: farmfriend, Ferret Mike, aka Mikey the Weasel, all (#137)

The main change from the Duhbya pResidency to the Oh'Bummer - Different Party Branding.

Otherwise what we are getting from Oh'Bummer is not the third Klinton Term but the third Duhbya Term.

By the way Mikey - you will recall that is exactly what I said would happen.

"The difference between an honorable man and a moral man is that an honorable man regrets a discreditable act even when it has worked and he is in no danger of being caught." ~ H. L. Mencken

Original_Intent  posted on  2008-11-27   2:04:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#139. To: TwentyTwelve (#52)

How long will the Obama spell last?

It has already lasted long enough to cause people to forget we have a Constitution which must be obeyed.

Who knows what else will happen in the next four years? Dictator for life?

It is now time for Atlas to shrug.

mirage  posted on  2008-11-27   2:29:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#140. To: bush_is_a_moonie (#120)

I realize that this birth certificate thing is nothing but BS propaganda to draw attention away from the important issues. While people focus on this meaningless propaganda the country is being destroyed.

Getting people to realize we have a Constitution and getting them to read and understand it and THEN getting them to stand up for it is NEVER meaningless.

Think about that for a little while. The Constitution is back in vogue and you want to tell people to ignore it?

Unfreakingbelievable....

It is now time for Atlas to shrug.

mirage  posted on  2008-11-27   2:39:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#141. To: Ferret Mike, bluegrass, farmfriend, christine, Twenty Twelve, Wudidiz, Scrapper2, all (#135)

"Questions of constitutional eligibility are just mere trifles, eh?"

And what the fuck is wrong with a native born American serving as president?

None whatsoever.

When are we going to get one?

Barry Soetoro WILL NOT produce a Birth Certificate, and has sealed and is keeping secret his application to Columbia - because it would show that he was a foreign student Barry Soetoro of Jakarta, Indonesia.

Oh'Bummer will not produce a Birth Certificate that validly proves he is a natural born U.S. Citizen because HE CAN'T. If he could he would have already done so. Instead what we are getting is stonewalling, Bush-like secrecy and obfuscation.

And so Mikey your only response is to bluster, evade, and dissemble. Good show. It shows you are an Oh'Bummer Team Player - too bad you are not as loyal to this country.

Oh, and GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO BEAVERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRS!

"The difference between an honorable man and a moral man is that an honorable man regrets a discreditable act even when it has worked and he is in no danger of being caught." ~ H. L. Mencken

Original_Intent  posted on  2008-11-27   2:51:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#142. To: Ferret Mike (#135)

And what the fuck is wrong with a native born American serving as president?

Nothing. Obama still hasn't proven that he is nor has he even addressed the issue himself. Instead, he sends flunkies and toadies to run flak for him on the question.

he is very much qualified, will be sworn in and will serve as president and do a very good job of it.

Who are you trying to convince - me or you?

Eff the Bankers

bluegrass  posted on  2008-11-27   4:19:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#143. To: bluegrass (#142)

Are you trying to convince me I have doubt he is native born? Why?

This is one of the most lame topics ever to hit 4UM. It is one taking an aspect of the Constitutional stipulations and beating someone very undeserving of it over the head with it.

Piss on you.


"You only have power over people so long as you don't take everything away from them. But when you've robbed a man of everything he's no longer in your power -- he's free again. Alexander Solzhenitsyn

Ferret Mike  posted on  2008-11-27   5:29:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#144. To: Original_Intent (#141)

is keeping secret his application to Columbia - because it would show that he was a foreign student Barry Soetoro of Jakarta, Indonesia.

That's what it is..

Lady X  posted on  2008-11-27   9:03:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#145. To: Original_Intent (#141)

does he have to come to your house and show it to you? I guess the officials in Hawaii who have said he was born in Hawaii and that they have a verified, valid birth certificate are just part of the conspiracy. You guys are so dumb. LOL. I bet if he came to your house and showed you the original you'd still swear up and down it was a forgery! LOL.

bush_is_a_moonie  posted on  2008-11-27   9:31:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#146. To: mirage (#140)

State of Hawaii has validated his birth in Hawaii. Enough said. Oh, I forgot, everybody in the world is part of the Obama birth certificate conspiracy except those on freedom4um LOL.

You guys should be embarassed. Your constant whining about something that has been validated/verfied by the state in which he was born would be funny as hell if it wasn't so pitiful.

bush_is_a_moonie  posted on  2008-11-27   9:36:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#147. To: bush_is_a_moonie (#146)

State of Hawaii has validated his birth in Hawaii.

Whoa! That seals the deal for me. Thanks moonie and Happy T-Day!

gobble gobble......

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-11-27   9:40:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#148. To: Jethro Tull (#147)

So you are saying that no matter who validates his birth certificate and that he is a U.S. citizen, including Obama himself, it wouldn't matter LOL. Why do you focus on such meaniningless issues while the country is being destroyed? I am beginning to understand how the neocons have been able to pull their communist crap the past 30 years. Feed the people some off-the-wall radical BS propaganda and use the media to continually reinforce it and they will spend so much time on it that they will be oblivious to the important issues.

bush_is_a_moonie  posted on  2008-11-27   9:59:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#149. To: TwentyTwelve (#0)

NO NO NO NO.... OH NO, IT CAN'T BE TRUE.. OH NO, HELP US, SAVE US, OH NO NO NO!!!

bush_is_a_moonie  posted on  2008-11-27   10:14:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#150. To: bush_is_a_moonie (#148)

I'm saying keep an open mind and don't fall for government (at any level) propaganda.

gobble gobble, again.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-11-27   10:24:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#151. To: Jethro Tull (#150) (Edited)

Post 149 says it all about you and those like you LOL. I wonder how many of you will run out and buy duct tape and plastic after watching it LOL. No wonder America is becoming the embarassment of the free world. By the way, the earth is flat and the two Border Patrol agents Compeon and Ramos fell off so we can't save them and now don't have to worry LOL.

What has happened to so many in this country? Did they spike the water with LSD or something? Ultra 5 subjects LOL.

This has become so funny that I think I'll start copying the stuff on here and send it to some internet humor site so they can post it and normal people will be get a good laugh from this stuff you guys post about this LOL.

bush_is_a_moonie  posted on  2008-11-27   10:29:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#152. To: bush_is_a_moonie (#151)

Nice try at Topic Deflection, but no thanks. We'll continue to read and discuss what interests us, despite your strong objections. Go start a Compeon and Ramos thread. I'm pissed that they're in jail, but be warned. Your fellow Os are internationalists and believe in open borders so don't expect much action.

Anyway...

gobble gobble, over and out.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-11-27   10:45:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#153. To: Ferret Mike (#143)

Are you trying to convince me I have doubt he is native born?

It sounds like you already have some doubts.

Eff the Bankers

bluegrass  posted on  2008-11-27   10:47:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#154. To: bush_is_a_moonie (#149)

--

Oh no! They are here and out to get us, run!!!! ;-D


"You only have power over people so long as you don't take everything away from them. But when you've robbed a man of everything he's no longer in your power -- he's free again. Alexander Solzhenitsyn

Ferret Mike  posted on  2008-11-27   10:53:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#155. To: bush_is_a_moonie (#151)

I think that you've made your point, old man: This is a distraction.

We've thrown all the brickbats at each other that we can lay our hands on on the topic of Obama's BC.

Instead of amplifying the level of hostility here, maybe someone could take a look at the larger context of this situation. Let me ask you, if this is indeed simply a distraction, what is the chief malfeasance, operation, black flag, robbery that this is diverting us from?

Explain. Elucidate. Illustrate.

Your Ball.

randge  posted on  2008-11-27   10:58:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#156. To: bush_is_a_moonie (#146)

Getting people to realize we have a Constitution and getting them to read and understand it and THEN getting them to stand up for it is NEVER meaningless.

Think about that for a little while. The Constitution is back in vogue and you want to tell people to ignore it?

Unfreakingbelievable....

It is now time for Atlas to shrug.

mirage  posted on  2008-11-27   11:12:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#157. To: Jethro Tull (#3)

Move on, nothing to see. The legal eagles have assured us this issue is a closed matter. Thank you and have a pleasant ride.

Try to live with it, friend.

The reality is that your much beloved McCain the Young at Heart and Sarah the Intelligent All-over are NOT going to see the insides of the White House except as invited guests. And your much beloved Hillary is now Obama's woman servant but I doubt that the boss will ever allow her to cook for him.

Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'

a vast rightwing conspirator  posted on  2008-11-27   11:13:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#158. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#157) (Edited)

The reality is that your much beloved McCain the Young at Heart and Sarah the Intelligent All-over are NOT going to see the insides of the White House except as invited guests. And your much beloved Hillary is now Obama's woman servant but I doubt that the boss will ever allow her to cook for him.

So that is what your thread obstruction is about? The misimpression that I partake in the selection system? Well, since your comment can only be meant as an insult, let me return the favor. May your kiddies be scooped up and inducted into Obongo's Community Service and be forced to fight for AmeriKa.

gobble gobble, mofo.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-11-27   11:19:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#159. To: Jethro Tull (#158)

Typical copper sophistication, what can I say other than you were right and you are right to love and support the likes of McCain, Sarah, Hillary and Bush. They are the kind that you'd typically find up your alley, so to speak.

As for your 'thread obstruction' accusation, I must remind you that I had to add 7 stoopids on my s_itlist because of the totally vile, idiotic, worthless words they are using in what may be a well organized effort to disrupt this site and scare away anyone normal who may stumble upon this forum. The information on this thread has zero credibility and only the types who enjoy the level of debate that the 7 magnificos on my s_itlist engage in could possibly take it seriously.

Note that, at no time, did I lower myself to your level of evil but ineffective (because I can't take you seriously) personal insult attempts. So, I am good and smart while you are bitter, resentful and not very bright.

Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'

a vast rightwing conspirator  posted on  2008-11-27   11:30:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#160. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#159)

JT is big enough to defend himself, but I must say that I'm insulted by your dishonesty.

The mud you sling above is in the nature of merely constructive slander: "evil", "vile", "idiotic". This kind of invective is just unfair, but you are entitled to your madness up to the point that you become an actual public danger.

What I take issue with is the implication that JT is a McCain partisan. From his posts, he is clearly not. He's decidedly an opponent of Obama. As am I.

It's one thing to sling trash. It's quite another to mischaracterize someone's position.

randge  posted on  2008-11-27   11:44:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#161. To: bush_is_a_moonie (#120)

You have a point about diversions. They can also be called "silver bullets," something like the Lewinsky affair that innoculated Clinton from charges about the Chinese money scandal and Pardongate. The media had an excuse to ignore those scandals because they investigated Lewinsky and Clinton got off. The media could then claim the GOP were just participating in "partisan scandalmongering" by complaining about the fund raising and the pardons.

roughrider  posted on  2008-11-27   11:45:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#162. To: a vast rightwing conspirator, randge, Jethro Tull (#159)

This is proof positive of the motives and methods of the Obama supporters (much like any partisan hack) that they're now reduced to lies and smears to attempt to stifle dissent.

a vast rightwing conspirator is a damned liar.

Eff the Bankers

bluegrass  posted on  2008-11-27   11:46:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#163. To: bluegrass (#162)

--

Liberals Thank Sarah Palin!


"You only have power over people so long as you don't take everything away from them. But when you've robbed a man of everything he's no longer in your power -- he's free again. Alexander Solzhenitsyn

Ferret Mike  posted on  2008-11-27   11:50:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#164. To: roughrider (#161)

Yes, he has a point. A point that he hammers ad tedium. He generates more heat than light.

No one else has anything of weight to add but His Highness. One wonders why he bothers arguing with all the lesser intellects on this forum.

randge  posted on  2008-11-27   11:51:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#165. To: mirage (#139)

Who knows what else will happen in the next four years? Dictator for life?

"Baby Doc" Obamasiah.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2008-11-27   12:00:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#166. To: bluegrass (#162)

This is proof positive of the motives and methods of the Obama supporters (much like any partisan hack) that they're now reduced to lies and smears to attempt to stifle dissent.

Coming to a thread near you.

randge  posted on  2008-11-27   12:05:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#167. To: Ferret Mike (#163)

Palin has certainly served you communists well.

Eff the Bankers

bluegrass  posted on  2008-11-27   12:06:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#168. To: randge (#166)

The lies and smears will only ramp up as we get closer to 1/20/09. Every prez always has the 20% idiot brigade that will back him no matter what crimes he commits. I just wonder how long it will take before the other 20% wise up.

Eff the Bankers

bluegrass  posted on  2008-11-27   12:08:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#169. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#159) (Edited)

McCain, Sarah, Hillary and Bush.

I never supported any of the above, and that goes for Bush #41.

My non-voting record is an open book. OTOH, your voting record over the last two cycles were Kerry and Obongo, right?

Nice work on those two.

Now daddy, get those little turkeys of yours ready for Obama's Civilian Corps.

Pederasts aren't confined to the Rs :P

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-11-27   12:08:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#170. To: bluegrass (#167)

If you want to call me what I am not, I can return the favor and reciprocate. Thanks, Mr. Zionist.

Mozzletof.


"You only have power over people so long as you don't take everything away from them. But when you've robbed a man of everything he's no longer in your power -- he's free again. Alexander Solzhenitsyn

Ferret Mike  posted on  2008-11-27   12:09:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#171. To: Ferret Mike (#170)

Thanks, Mr. Zionist.

Mozzletof.

Some pair of acorns you have considering you have high praise for Abe Foxman and the ADL.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-11-27   12:11:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#172. To: Jethro Tull, Ferret Mike (#171)

Irony escapes The Weasel.

Eff the Bankers

bluegrass  posted on  2008-11-27   12:12:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#173. To: bluegrass (#162)

a vast rightwing conspirator is a damned liar.

He's a head case, as are the other Os here. And they're getting worse w/each hack appointee the Pre-President makes. Ya' gotta laugh :P

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-11-27   12:14:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#174. To: Jethro Tull (#171)

Heh, except when I first came into the forum, I had never heard of the guy. And I am disgusted by Israeli treatment of Palestinians and hate their brand of Apartheid every bit as much I have always hated the South African brand.

Israel and South Africa were close military partners and friends in tho years the nationalist Party was in control in SA. It is small wonder Israel engages in much the same brand of oppression as they did.


"You only have power over people so long as you don't take everything away from them. But when you've robbed a man of everything he's no longer in your power -- he's free again. Alexander Solzhenitsyn

Ferret Mike  posted on  2008-11-27   12:16:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#175. To: bluegrass (#172)

Oh, you are baiting and I understand that form of self entertainment well. You are merely annoyed that it doesn't work here.


"You only have power over people so long as you don't take everything away from them. But when you've robbed a man of everything he's no longer in your power -- he's free again. Alexander Solzhenitsyn

Ferret Mike  posted on  2008-11-27   12:17:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#176. To: Ferret Mike, Jethro Tull (#174)

And I am disgusted by Israeli treatment of Palestinians and hate their brand of Apartheid every bit as much I have always hated the South African brand.

Yet your beloved ADL was a HUGE supporter of South African apartheid. Is that part of their "good works" that you've praised them for?

Eff the Bankers

bluegrass  posted on  2008-11-27   12:18:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#177. To: Ferret Mike (#174)

So you're not on record supporting some of the work the ADL does?

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-11-27   12:19:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#178. To: Ferret Mike (#175)

self entertainment

Bzzt. Wrong.

What I'm trying to do is to show that thus far your pronounced judgment on things is 180 degrees turned from reality.

You every post only helps.

Eff the Bankers

bluegrass  posted on  2008-11-27   12:20:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#179. To: randge (#160) (Edited)

He is 10 times more of a McCain partisan and Hillary/Bush/Plain PASSIONATE lover as I am a 'white guilter', 'socialist', 'commie lover' or 'democrat'. And that is certifiable.

So... there.

Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'

a vast rightwing conspirator  posted on  2008-11-27   12:21:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#180. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#179)

butt, butt, butt.....i didn't vote for mccain and your vote for obongo got the Clinton's back into the WH.

whattagoof....

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-11-27   12:23:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#181. To: Jethro Tull (#180)

See, the difference between you an me is that I am not ashamed of what I do and I do not hide what I do.

You can SAY that you didn't vote for McCain because it can't be verified but you have no credibility.

Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'

a vast rightwing conspirator  posted on  2008-11-27   12:25:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#182. To: bluegrass (#176)

That is very amusing and it is hard to make that argument about someone who has a history of anti-Apartheid activism.

Anyone checking me out locally would run smack into that wall, so far be it for me to worry about your baitful prattling contending otherwise.


"You only have power over people so long as you don't take everything away from them. But when you've robbed a man of everything he's no longer in your power -- he's free again. Alexander Solzhenitsyn

Ferret Mike  posted on  2008-11-27   12:26:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#183. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#181)

I am not ashamed of what I do

We know. That's part of the problem.

Eff the Bankers

bluegrass  posted on  2008-11-27   12:26:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#184. To: Ferret Mike (#182)

Yet your support of Israel/South Africa's largest spy organization in America belies your so-called opposition.

You're either very confused or not honest.

Eff the Bankers

bluegrass  posted on  2008-11-27   12:27:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#185. To: bluegrass (#178)

Whatever bait Meister, I actually don't give a shit what you say on the topic.

I do not like what Apartheid in SA was, or what Zionism has manifested into and is doing to oppress people in Israel. That is where I stand on that, and you can engage in denial about that all you wish. That means nothing to me.


"You only have power over people so long as you don't take everything away from them. But when you've robbed a man of everything he's no longer in your power -- he's free again. Alexander Solzhenitsyn

Ferret Mike  posted on  2008-11-27   12:30:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#186. To: bluegrass (#184) (Edited)

Don't think you are unappreciated, until our delightful meeting online here, I had no idea the Boers and Israelis were so much in bed together historically, and I have moved from the rose colored sunglasses of Zionism as depicted in Leon Uris' historically based novels to a clearer understanding of the problem.

That you want to take myopia expressed by me upon coming in here and turn me into a fly in amber rather then a politically engaged human being who is always evolving their opinions and worldview is your problem.

That does not bother me. I honor what enlightenment you have given, but bother to don't sweat the petty and cruel aspects of your being.


"You only have power over people so long as you don't take everything away from them. But when you've robbed a man of everything he's no longer in your power -- he's free again. Alexander Solzhenitsyn

Ferret Mike  posted on  2008-11-27   12:39:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#187. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#181) (Edited)

You can SAY that you didn't vote for McCain because it can't be verified but you have no credibility.

It actually can be verified.

My name isn't on the voting roles.

I've never voted in Centre County.

Check it out;

Thomas Davis, Sr
State College, PA
Ferguson Township

So much for you, and so much for all the people who live in fear of having their names on the 'net.

Now, if you can't get the info I'll be happy to take you to the courthouse and verify it further.

I'll even buy you lunch.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-11-27   12:49:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#188. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#179)

He is 10 times more of a McCain partisan and Hillary/Bush/Plain PASSIONATE lover as I am a 'white guilter', 'socialist', 'commie lover' or 'democrat'. And that is certifiable.

So... there.

Jes' what is you, honey chile??

Informed posters want to know.

randge  posted on  2008-11-27   12:51:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#189. To: Ferret Mike (#186)

I have moved from the rose colored sunglasses of Zionism as depicted in Leon Uris' historically based novels to a clearer understanding of the problem.

In all honesty, I'm glad to hear that. My larger point is that perhaps Obama has also been Urisized in the mass media and you've not yet removed the rose colored glasses.

I honor what enlightenment you have given

With a sentiment like that, I can only say thank you. My efforts haven't been in vain.

Eff the Bankers

bluegrass  posted on  2008-11-27   12:51:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#190. To: bush_is_a_moonie, Lady X, farmfriend, christine, bluegrass, Weasel Mike, Twenty Twelve, Wudidiz, all (#145)

does he have to come to your house and show it to you? I guess the officials in Hawaii who have said he was born in Hawaii and that they have a verified, valid birth certificate are just part of the conspiracy. You guys are so dumb. LOL. I bet if he came to your house and showed you the original you'd still swear up and down it was a forgery! LOL.

I think I'm going to have to spray for insects. You can buzz all you want but I am not biting on your gambit to annoy me into an imprudent or angry line.

We both know the following to be true:

If there was a valid Birth Certificate Oh'Bummer would show it and the controversy would end at that moment.

If his admissions record did not show him as Barry Soetoro of Jakarta, Indonesia (an Indonesian Citizen) it would be entered into the public record instead of held under lock and key - secret. Ditto his transcript, etc., ...

The reality is that Barry Barack Hussein Soetoro Obama is not legally a natural born U.S. Citizen and thus is ineligible to hold the Office of President of the United States.

THIRTY

"The difference between an honorable man and a moral man is that an honorable man regrets a discreditable act even when it has worked and he is in no danger of being caught." ~ H. L. Mencken

Original_Intent  posted on  2008-11-27   19:07:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#191. To: Original_Intent (#190)

The reality is that Barry Barack Hussein Soetoro Obama is not legally a natural born U.S. Citizen and thus is ineligible to hold the Office of President of the United States.

Saw the James Bond flick today.

The Quorom 'is everywhere' schtick made me think of the parallels exhibited by the cabal..and some turkeys on this very forum.

Shills for World Socialist Utopian Fascist Government.

Feh

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2008-11-27   19:12:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#192. To: Rotara (#191)

I listened to a BLACK Pastor on a radio program make the same demands of ol' Barry. It was from him I got wised up to why Barry Soetoro would hide his admissions file.

"The difference between an honorable man and a moral man is that an honorable man regrets a discreditable act even when it has worked and he is in no danger of being caught." ~ H. L. Mencken

Original_Intent  posted on  2008-11-27   19:14:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#193. To: Original_Intent (#192)

Not every black American has been sucked in.

Yet.

Hahaha

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2008-11-27   19:17:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#194. To: Rotara (#193) (Edited)

Not every black American has been sucked in.

Yet.

Hahaha

Actually I think alert, aware, and patriotic black Americans may well be part of our salvation from the Oh'Bummersiah. In the current racially contentious environment they can say things and ask questions that others might get tarred with the race tar for asking.

Of course what do I know? I'm just a crazy Indian.

"The difference between an honorable man and a moral man is that an honorable man regrets a discreditable act even when it has worked and he is in no danger of being caught." ~ H. L. Mencken

Original_Intent  posted on  2008-11-27   19:47:06 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#195. To: Jethro Tull (#173)

He's a head case, as are the other Os here. And they're getting worse w/each hack appointee the Pre-President makes. Ya' gotta laugh :P

Yeah, and some of them are standing on the wrong side of the net too!

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James Deffenbach  posted on  2008-11-27   19:53:55 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#196. To: Original_Intent (#190)

If his admissions record did not show him as Barry Soetoro of Jakarta, Indonesia (an Indonesian Citizen) it would be entered into the public record instead of held under lock and key - secret. Ditto his transcript, etc., ...

The reality is that Barry Barack Hussein Soetoro Obama is not legally a natural born U.S. Citizen and thus is ineligible to hold the Office of President of the United States.

YOU NAILED IT!!!!!!!!

END OF THE STORY!!!

I swear to god I think you are RIGHT about the transcript showing his foreign status..

Lady X  posted on  2008-11-27   21:01:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#197. To: Original_Intent, Rotara (#192)

It was from him I got wised up to why Barry Soetoro would hide his admissions file

Wise man. I hadn't thought of it until you brought it up but it makes a lot of sense. One of those things that just rings true when you hear it.


Meet the new boss, same as the old boss — The Who

farmfriend  posted on  2008-11-27   22:07:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#198. To: James Deffenbach (#195)

Oh that's a keeper.


Meet the new boss, same as the old boss — The Who

farmfriend  posted on  2008-11-27   22:09:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#199. To: farmfriend (#198)

Glad you liked it.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2008-11-27   22:20:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#200. To: Lady X, farmfriend, Rotara, christine (#196)

I swear to god I think you are RIGHT about the transcript showing his foreign status.

As farmfriend put it: "...it has the ring of truth to it." So I thought when I heard it.

It makes sense because his admissions file would list him as a foreign student and what his nationality was.

So, if it is anything other than American, which I would just about bet the ranch on that it is Indonesian, it would indicate that he:

A. Had at some point renounced his U.S. Citizenship (I don't believe Indonesia allows dual citizens from what I've read).

B. There is no record of him ever being re-naturalized. Thus he is at this time not even a United States Citizen let alone natural born or not.

C. Therefore he is guilty of Fraud, Wire Fraud, Mail Fraud, and on an on ....

That being the case he has committed multiple crimes for which he could spend a very long time in jail.

No wonder the NWO and Zionists love him. He is totally controllable because he can be brought down at any time and be sent to jail. Therefore he will do exactly as he is told.

"The difference between an honorable man and a moral man is that an honorable man regrets a discreditable act even when it has worked and he is in no danger of being caught." ~ H. L. Mencken

Original_Intent  posted on  2008-11-27   22:52:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#201. To: Original_Intent (#200)

No wonder the NWO and Zionists love him. He is totally controllable because he can be brought down at any time and be sent to jail. Therefore he will do exactly as he is told.

And therefore, it is about as likely for the Supreme Court to demand that he prove his citizenship as it is for a pissant to bodyslam an elephant--not too likely.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2008-11-28   0:39:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#202. To: James Deffenbach, Original_Intent (#201)

as it is for a pissant to bodyslam an elephant--not too likely.

But he's got hiiiiigh hopes, he's got hiiiiigh hopes, he's got high apple pie in the sky hopes...


Meet the new boss, same as the old boss — The Who

farmfriend  posted on  2008-11-28   0:43:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#203. To: farmfriend (#202)

I am afraid our "overlords" are telling us, with this buffoon who won't even produce a birth certificate when his citizenship is in question, that we can hope in one hand and $#it in the other one and see which one fills up first.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2008-11-28   1:11:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#204. To: James Deffenbach, farmfriend (#201)

No wonder the NWO and Zionists love him. He is totally controllable because he can be brought down at any time and be sent to jail. Therefore he will do exactly as he is told.

And therefore, it is about as likely for the Supreme Court to demand that he prove his citizenship as it is for a pissant to bodyslam an elephant--not too likely.

Actually I think the Supremes are between a rock and a hard place.

On one hand they have got to be receiving pressure but the Chief Justice has already issued Certoriari demanding that Oh'Bummer produce proof. I expect more fraudulent documents, but the question is can they manufacture convincing enough frauds? Everything has to be right because you can bet they'll be looked at under a very big magnifying glass.

The Supremes are likely scared, because if they falsely certify Oh'Bummer and then incontrovertible evidence shows up that he is not qualified then they look like a bunch of crooks (which they are but that's another matter). It is like the infamous 1999 election ruling that put Jorge into office - they stipulated that it could not be used as a precedent. If they did similar again then commit not only fraud but farce. However, they may well be looking at threats of being whacked if they don't do what they're told. So, they're damned if they do and damned if they don't.

"The difference between an honorable man and a moral man is that an honorable man regrets a discreditable act even when it has worked and he is in no danger of being caught." ~ H. L. Mencken

Original_Intent  posted on  2008-11-28   1:17:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#205. To: James Deffenbach (#203)

I am afraid our "overlords" are telling us, with this buffoon who won't even produce a birth certificate when his citizenship is in question, that we can hope in one hand and $#it in the other one and see which one fills up first.

I know! I know! I know!

I know which one fills up first.

"The difference between an honorable man and a moral man is that an honorable man regrets a discreditable act even when it has worked and he is in no danger of being caught." ~ H. L. Mencken

Original_Intent  posted on  2008-11-28   1:18:54 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#206. To: Original_Intent (#205)

I know! I know! I know!

I know which one fills up first.

I knew you would 'cause you are a clever individual. ;^)

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2008-11-28   1:20:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#207. To: James Deffenbach (#206)

LOL! Touche!

"The difference between an honorable man and a moral man is that an honorable man regrets a discreditable act even when it has worked and he is in no danger of being caught." ~ H. L. Mencken

Original_Intent  posted on  2008-11-28   1:22:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#208. To: Original_Intent, James Deffenbach (#204) (Edited)

but the question is can they manufacture convincing enough frauds?

And what happens when ones from Kenya show up? Or the tape of his grandmother released? And why hasn't that been released yet?

I'm also really curious to see what happens to the California case with Keyes.


Meet the new boss, same as the old boss — The Who

farmfriend  posted on  2008-11-28   1:52:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#209. To: farmfriend, Original_Intent (#208)

De Kingfish The Obamasiah--Piss Be Upon Him--Birth Certificate.

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James Deffenbach  posted on  2008-11-28   2:18:20 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#210. To: Original_Intent (#200)

No wonder the NWO and Zionists love him. He is totally controllable because he can be brought down at any time and be sent to jail. Therefore he will do exactly as he is told.

I cannot imagine what is coming our way, what they have planned for us..

This is not the usual blackmailable thing here.

We're in danger..

Lady X  posted on  2008-11-28   8:14:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#211. To: Original_Intent (#190)

If there was a valid Birth Certificate Oh'Bummer would show it and the controversy would end at that moment.

How long did it take before bush's military records became available during the "he was AWOL" distraction? Why is it so hard to understand that they are intentionally keeping this issue in front of the public to distract from other issues. Remember Kerry's military medical records? Do you think it was an accident that he pushed his military background from the beginning of his campaign and then refused to release the records. This was done intentionally. It is how they distract people from the important issues. Kerry was the planned fall guy. He is part of those working to destroy our country.

bush_is_a_moonie  posted on  2008-11-28   8:50:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#212. To: Jethro Tull (#187) (Edited)

My friend, I could post 10 phony names and addresses, possibly 100 phony names and addresses and then challenge you to check them at the court and, of course, they will show up as 'not voting' and 'not registered' because they were phony.

Your real problem seems to be your made-up birth certificate. Everyone knows that you were born in Turkey, not in America the Beautiful and your current birth certificate is a fake.

So, Mr. McCain/Palin/Hillary/Giuliani/Double-You lover, what's your true Turkey name?

Happy Thanksgivings, your foul-mouthed, hateful, Turkey racist. :)

Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'

a vast rightwing conspirator  posted on  2008-11-28   9:07:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#213. To: bush_is_a_moonie (#211)

Horse hockey. The Obamasiah has spent upwards of a million dollars defending against suits to force him to show a ten dollar birth certificate. Now either someone else is fronting all that money for their own reasons or he is insane because no sane person would refuse to produce a ten dollar document which would prove that they are in fact eligible to assume the office they seek.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2008-11-28   9:11:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#214. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#212)

My friend, I could post 10 phony names and addresses, possibly 100 phony names and addresses and then challenge you to check them at the court and, of course, they will show up as 'not voting' and 'not registered' because they were phony.

That's my real name and many folks here know it.

I'm not surprised you wont take my challenge - liars like yourself prefer to hide behind screens, aliases and political heroes.

As far as me voting for anyone, game, set match.

As far as those two young boy scouts you claim to be raising, prepare them for Obama's war. They'll make fine archers for the cause :)

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-11-28   9:57:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#215. To: Jethro Tull (#214)

My friend, mission number one for you should be to clarify your Turkey birth. Mission number two, while we all understand your understandable infatuation for Hillary, Sarah, John, Rudy, and Double (they're all cute), just get over it.

Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'

a vast rightwing conspirator  posted on  2008-11-28   11:27:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#216. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#215)

Above are your children's future soldiers in arms.

I can't wait until your precious ones are inducted into Os Legions.

Then, my friend, I shall salute you with my middle finger and a large smile :)

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-11-28   12:09:12 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#217. To: bush_is_a_moonie, Lady X, farmfriend, christine, bluegrass, Weasel Mike, Twenty Twelve, Wudidiz, all (#211)

If there was a valid Birth Certificate Oh'Bummer would show it and the controversy would end at that moment.

How long did it take before bush's military records became available during the "he was AWOL" distraction? Why is it so hard to understand that they are intentionally keeping this issue in front of the public to distract from other issues. Remember Kerry's military medical records? Do you think it was an accident that he pushed his military background from the beginning of his campaign and then refused to release the records. This was done intentionally. It is how they distract people from the important issues. Kerry was the planned fall guy. He is part of those working to destroy our country.

Duhbya's military records are irrelevant as regards Oh'Bummer's qualifications to hold the office for which he was (s)Elected. And of course Kerry took a dive. That was obvious at the time. That issue is not currently amenable to resolution but you can guarantee that the people who ordered Kerry to take a dive are the same people who control Oh'Bummer. The issue before us is whether or not Barry Barack Hussein Soetoro Obama can legally hold the office of President of the United States; an issue you steadfastly keep trying to divert discussion away from.

Either we are a Constitutional Republic or we are not.

Either Oh'Bummer is qualified to hold the office or he is not. At this point the evidence points strongly toward the fact that he IS NOT legally qualified to sit in the Oval Office.

This is not a complex issue, but it does cut to the heart of the legitimacy of the government in office.

A President firmly under the control of outside forces IS NOT a trivial issue.

"The difference between an honorable man and a moral man is that an honorable man regrets a discreditable act even when it has worked and he is in no danger of being caught." ~ H. L. Mencken

Original_Intent  posted on  2008-11-28   12:34:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#218. To: Lady X (#210)

No wonder the NWO and Zionists love him. He is totally controllable because he can be brought down at any time and be sent to jail. Therefore he will do exactly as he is told.

I cannot imagine what is coming our way, what they have planned for us..

This is not the usual blackmailable thing here.

We're in danger..

Yes, we are in danger, which means it is time to keep a cool head.

At this point the Oh'Bummer charade is falling to pieces. All they can do is ignore in the news and send their shills out to preach a defeatist line hoping to sap our morale and send us into apathy. So, we have to do the opposite and become energized as this is a sign they are weak and they are trembling because when we reach critical mass they have visions of dangling on the end of a rope - which is what the so-called elites deserve. Except we are not psychotics like they are, but because they are psychotic they think everyone else is too.

People are becoming aware of how the Federal Treasury is being looted.

Oh'Bummer is in the pocket of the people doing the looting which is ultimately the Rotchilds, Rockefuckers, Whoreburgs, et. al., .... Some Black Leaders are beginning to wake up to that fact and they are important allies.

The massive level of criminality and corruption is becoming obvious to even the stupid - the only people who still believe the official line are the self-deluded, shills, and the drooling, slack jawed, mouth breathing, microencephalic morons and imbeciles at FReeptard Rezpublik. In Freeptardia they look up to a moron as being brilliant as they giggle and drool all over the carpet.

The situation is currently fluid and there are counter forces at play, but they are not seen as prominent - yet.

At this point we have to remain level headed and keep ourselves dedicated to creating a sane society. At this point one of our most effective counters is to alert other people - make them notice that the building is on fire and that they need to get moving or thery're cooked.

"The difference between an honorable man and a moral man is that an honorable man regrets a discreditable act even when it has worked and he is in no danger of being caught." ~ H. L. Mencken

Original_Intent  posted on  2008-11-28   12:58:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#219. To: Jethro Tull, a vast rightwing bloviator, a vast rightwing conspirator, all (#216) (Edited)

I can't wait until your precious ones are inducted into Os Legions.

Then, my friend, I shall salute you with my middle finger and a large smile :)

I wonder if he's bought his little precies their cute new "Cammie Jammies" yet?

He needs to start making them sleep in the Sand Box so they can get ready to serve their new master in the DU littered deserts of the Middle East to die for Israel and the NWO/Rothschilds. After all as his Rothschild masters would argue they are just animals and exist only to serve their needs and wants. Maybe they'll get chosen as Butt Boys? Wouldn't that be an honor!?

"The difference between an honorable man and a moral man is that an honorable man regrets a discreditable act even when it has worked and he is in no danger of being caught." ~ H. L. Mencken

Original_Intent  posted on  2008-11-28   13:04:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#220. To: Original_Intent (#219)

Oh my yes! I'm sure Vast would be honored if his future Warriors for the Globe were honored in such a way. And frankly it's only fair. If Os are willing to send other kids to wars in Afghanistan and god knows where else, their own should be the first into the breech.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-11-28   13:17:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#221. To: Jethro Tull, a vast rightwing bloviator, a vast rightwing conspirator, all (#220) (Edited)

I'll bet his heart just swells with pride as he hangs those two flags on the wall next to the Mantle - proud veterans of the Pakistan Pacification. Post-humous of course. It'll give him something to brag about when the Civilian Security Corps comes through to make sure his Loyalty Oath is up to date. "See there's my boys. I'm just so proud that they died in the service of the Obamessiah. I was blessed twice."

"The difference between an honorable man and a moral man is that an honorable man regrets a discreditable act even when it has worked and he is in no danger of being caught." ~ H. L. Mencken

Original_Intent  posted on  2008-11-28   13:37:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#222. To: Original_Intent, Os (#221)

"Daddy, what's a Sierra Leone, and why does Mr Obongo want us to fight there?

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-11-28   13:44:40 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#223. To: Jethro Tull, a vast rightwing bloviator, a vast rightwing conspirator, Weasel Mike, Ferret Mike, bush_is_a_moonie, all (#222)

"Daddy, what's a Sierra Leone, and why does Mr Obongo want us to fight there?

"That's a good question honey. It's very very important, because rebels there were selling Diamonds on the evil evil Free Market and cutting into the profits of the DeBeers Diamond Cartel. So, it is very important that you fight, and maybe die, to protect the DeBeers Cartel's ability to maintain a monopoly and a stable artificially high usurious price on Diamonds. Isn't that a noble cause sweetie?"

"The difference between an honorable man and a moral man is that an honorable man regrets a discreditable act even when it has worked and he is in no danger of being caught." ~ H. L. Mencken

Original_Intent  posted on  2008-11-28   14:36:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#224. To: Original_Intent (#223)

This stuff just makes me want to barf.


Meet the new boss, same as the old boss — The Who

farmfriend  posted on  2008-11-28   15:16:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#225. To: farmfriend (#224) (Edited)

That's only because you're selfish and don't want to see your child become a flag.

"The difference between an honorable man and a moral man is that an honorable man regrets a discreditable act even when it has worked and he is in no danger of being caught." ~ H. L. Mencken

Original_Intent  posted on  2008-11-28   15:18:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#226. To: Original_Intent (#223)

Isn't that a noble cause sweetie?"

And the civilian corp can also serve right here at home!!

"In 1929 the Rockefeller Standard Oil of New Jersey, now known as Exxon, made a cartel agreement with the Rockefellers' I.G. Farben Industry to avoid destructive competition in one another's markets. The Rockefellers supplied Hitler with great reserves of petroleum products without which war could not have been waged. Their I.G. Farben Industry also assured Hitler of reliable supplies of glycerine for munitions from a source which is seldom mentioned in this connection--the rendering of fat from Concentration Camp victims who died in the infamous ovens!

The cartel arrangement operated completely to the benefit of Germany--and completely to the detriment of the United States, as was brought out in devastating detail by the hearings held by Senator Harry S. Truman during the first half of 1942. As documented in those hearings, the Rockefeller Standard Oil treated its agreements with the Rockefellers' I.G. Farben Industry as taking precedence over any considerations of patriotism or duty to America; and continued to block all efforts to make synthetic rubber and other critical war supplies available even after we were at war. Thus the Nazi war machine of Adolf Hitler was built up to provide the menace to Britain which the Rockefellers desired as a means of opening up the Saudi Arabian oil concessions permanently to themselves."

Mmm...roly poly little fat American kiddies!

http://www.etext.org/Politics/Beter.Audio.Letter/dbal01

OliviaFNewton  posted on  2008-11-28   15:18:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#227. To: Original_Intent (#225)

That's only because you're selfish and don't want to see your child become a flag.

What you think I hate war solely because I have boys aged 16 and 19? Never crossed my mind.


Meet the new boss, same as the old boss — The Who

farmfriend  posted on  2008-11-28   15:23:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#228. To: OliviaFNewton (#226)

World Wars I and II were both fought for reasons other than the pap, bilge, and propaganda that was fed to the Amurkin People to get them to support the elites wars to gain control and enslave humanity.

FDR knew Pearl Harbor was going to happen weeks, if not months, in advance as the Japanese Purple Code had been broken as early as 1939. The McCollum memo, every action of which was taken by FDR, had the intent of cornering the Japanese and forcing them to attack in self defense. FDR withheld the information from CINCPACFLT and the Base Commander so that they would appear to have been caught unaware by a dastardly sneak attack. It was a day of infamy but not for the reasons given in the false histories taught in our Government Skools.

The Lusitania was a "set-up" to enrage the American Sheeple to support WWI. Smedley Butler M.H. (One of only 19 Men to receive the Congressional Medal of Honor TWICE) Major General, Commandant of the USMC, called that one for what it was A RACKET.

"The difference between an honorable man and a moral man is that an honorable man regrets a discreditable act even when it has worked and he is in no danger of being caught." ~ H. L. Mencken

Original_Intent  posted on  2008-11-28   15:30:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#229. To: farmfriend (#227)

That's only because you're selfish and don't want to see your child become a flag.

What you think I hate war solely because I have boys aged 16 and 19? Never crossed my mind.

That's a relief. The Obamessiah would be most displeased if you were selfish enough to want your boys to live long healthy and productive lives instead of dying for his greater glory and the Coffers of his masters the Rotchilds and Rockefuckers.

"The difference between an honorable man and a moral man is that an honorable man regrets a discreditable act even when it has worked and he is in no danger of being caught." ~ H. L. Mencken

Original_Intent  posted on  2008-11-28   15:33:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#230. To: Original_Intent (#228) (Edited)

World Wars I and II were both fought for reasons other than the pap, bilge, and propaganda that was fed to the Amurkin People to get them to support the elites wars to gain control and enslave humanity.

FDR knew Pearl Harbor was going to happen weeks, if not months, in advance as the Japanese Purple Code had been broken as early as 1939. The McCollum memo, every action of which was taken by FDR, had the intent of cornering the Japanese and forcing them to attack in self defense. FDR withheld the information from CINCPACFLT and the Base Commander so that they would appear to have been caught unaware by a dastardly sneak attack. It was a day of infamy but not for the reasons given in the false histories taught in our Government Skools.

The Lusitania was a "set-up" to enrage the American Sheeple to support WWI. Smedley Butler M.H. (One of only 19 Men to receive the Congressional Medal of Honor TWICE) Major General, Commandant of the USMC, called that one for what it was A RACKET.

Yes, a Racket indeed.

Depopulation is one goal of our manufactured wars, and the one for Obama will be no different. We have camps, coffins, Gates expanding the forces for a Surge in Afghanistan ("ROBERT GATES SERVED AS BRZEZINSKI'S 'SPECIAL ASSISTANT' during Brzezinski's stint as Carter's National Security Adviser from 1977-1981. Upon Gates' ascendancy to Defense Secretary under Bush in 2006, Brzezinski gave proof of his sponsorship of Gates by writing a laudatory article on Gates for Time Magazine.")

We have reports of box cars with shackles, a not so little squip about a general mobilization of all retired military, and yet . . . all that is posted about previous wars, constitutional coups, and war crimes, seem not to phase the opile at all. AT - ALL.

Therefore, it must be assumed they are indeed as psychotic as the mad-men and are to be held in contempt and considered threats to humanity.

edit: OPILES: You think these people are kidding around? You think your agenda for change was for social justice? Think again. In mere months you will see change on the streets and don't pretend you didn't see it coming. Furthermore, as 'adults' you have a responsibility to your family to try and protect them. Your political self interest has served the evil ones well and as such do not cry when they come for you and your kids. You INVITED IT.

OliviaFNewton  posted on  2008-11-28   15:37:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#231. To: Original_Intent (#223)

"Daddy, what's a Sierra Leone, and why does Mr Obongo want us to fight there? "That's a good question honey. It's very very important,

LOL - is this a product of severe double-intoxication?

I wrote 'double' because it goes once for coming up with your 'finding' and then it goes twice when you make the decision that your finding was too important not to copy important people such as myself so that I could diagnose your severe double-intoxication condition. :) Don't you think it deserves its own thread?

Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'

a vast rightwing conspirator  posted on  2008-11-29   10:29:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#232. To: Original_Intent (#217)

Duhbya's military records are irrelevant as regards Oh'Bummer's qualifications to hold the office

You didn't understand anything I said did you? The politicians and those in control of our government constantly publish propaganda to distract attention from the more important issues. That is why crap like this and the bush military record and all the other stuff is published! Anybody who assumes our media publishes/broadcasts the truth is a fool. The anti-American neocon atheist Ashkenazim and their puppets have controlled what goes out over the media. Again, I have a friend from college who is now a VP at a division of NBC and a few years ago when I talked with her she told me that the government prohibits them from publishing/broadcasting/telling the public appx. 40% of what their organizations/staff submit, particularly where Israel, the Middle East and China are concerned.

bush_is_a_moonie  posted on  2008-12-01   0:52:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#233. To: OliviaFNewton (#230)

Depopulation is one goal of our manufactured wars, and the one for Obama will be no different.

Depopulation is a goal targeting people that can't be easily controlled. Sheeple do not need to be depopulated, they are good little slaves. It's most of the posters on this forum that need to be concerned.

God is always good!

RickyJ  posted on  2008-12-01   0:59:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#234. To: RickyJ (#233)

Sheep are for stew.

YOu know?

OliviaFNewton  posted on  2008-12-01   20:19:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#235. To: James Deffenbach (#213)

The Obamasiah has spent upwards of a million dollars defending against suits to force him to show a ten dollar birth certificate. Now either someone else is fronting all that money for their own reasons or he is insane because no sane person would refuse to produce a ten dollar document which would prove that they are in fact eligible to assume the office they seek.

Obama is trying to hide something.

Obama knows that he has been exposed and he is getting worried.

TwentyTwelve  posted on  2008-12-01   21:30:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#236. To: TwentyTwelve (#235)

Obama knows that he has been exposed and he is getting worried.

He doesn't look worried to me. I wonder when he is going to bury his grandmother? What the heck is up with that?

God is always good!

RickyJ  posted on  2008-12-01   23:09:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#237. To: RickyJ (#236)

I wonder when he is going to bury his grandmother? What the heck is up with that?

Interesting......

TwentyTwelve  posted on  2008-12-01   23:11:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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