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Title: Trouble in Paradise: Obama’s Kenyan Birth Record on its Way to US
Source: macsmind.com/wordpress/2008
URL Source: http://macsmind.com/wordpress/2008/ ... birth-record-on-its-way-to-us/
Published: Nov 25, 2008
Author: Youtube
Post Date: 2008-11-25 21:31:26 by TwentyTwelve
Keywords: Obama, Born In Kenya
Views: 6122
Comments: 237

Trouble in Paradise: Obama’s Kenyan Birth Record on it’s Way to US

16 Nov 08

Posted by MacRanger as Barack Obama, News

I have been notified - but not verified - that the actual birth certificate mentioned in Philip Berg’s lawsuit is on it’s way to the US, where it will be distributed to media outlets. The certificate apparently shows that Barack Hussein Obama was born in a hospital in Mombasa, Kenya located in Coast Province.

Gina Cobb first reported on the existence of this certificate back in October.

Again, SC Justice David Souter has ordered Obama to respond to the Writ of Certiorari by Dec. 1. That means to produce a birth certificate.

UPDATE: More on the Writ of Certiorari here.

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#116. To: Ferret Mike, randge (#98) (Edited)

Which posts that entire election in question.

Yes it does and we have to draw the line somewhere. In your opinion we have drawn it too late and you could be right but we can't change the past, we can only go forward. We must force both the left and the right to stop the fraud and not support candidates because they have the same ideology as ourselves.

You should not have supported this candidate because of the fraud envolved. I rejected both him and McCain.


Meet the new boss, same as the old boss — The Who

farmfriend  posted on  2008-11-26   16:38:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#117. To: Lady X (#100)

If these things were disclosed, what might you think they would reveal?

I've often thought about that but arrive at no conclusion.

The fact that this guy managed to run for president or the Senate or whatever without disclosing the above is simply staggaring. Frankly I can't wrap my head around it all..

Running for Senate does not require being "natural born" nor does running for Senate demand -per past precedent of other Presidential candidates - the same level of disclosures.

My guess is that Obama is not natural born and furthermore I suspect that the transcripts of his marks would show that he did not properly warrant or earn his summa cum laude graduation label from Harvard Law School. The health records needed to be held back because to release them without releasing his transcripts and hospital record of live birth would be way too suspicious so he and his handlers decided it was best to keep all records confidential.

But hey, I'm only guessing - maybe even the health records were problematic.

I suspect that Obama was most likely chosen by the power brokers because he had a number of skeletons in his closet whatever they may be and he could be easily manipulated as a result.

scrapper2  posted on  2008-11-26   16:58:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#118. To: scrapper2, Lady X, christine (#117)

I suspect that Obama was most likely chosen by the power brokers because he had a number of skeletons in his closet whatever they may be and he could be easily manipulated as a result.

To ramp it up a notch, I think Obama was picked precisely to cause civil unrest in order to create an excuse for the clampdown. If he gets in, a fairly large segment of the population will be rightfully angered at the complete disregard for law. If he doesn't get in, another large segment of the crowd could also be driven to violence.

Either way, it's win/win for the Money Powers that back Bracko and Homeland Security.

Eff the Bankers

bluegrass  posted on  2008-11-26   17:05:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#119. To: noone222 (#114)

In Mumbai the shooters were looking for Brits and Americans

Unpossible, there aren't enough jews in Bombay to stir things up, there's no damn Iranian link ;-)

“The best and first guarantor of our neutrality and our independent existence is the defensive will of the people…and the proverbial marksmanship of the Swiss shooter. Each soldier a good marksman! Each shot a hit!”
-Schweizerische Schuetzenzeitung (Swiss Shooting Federation) April, 1941

X-15  posted on  2008-11-26   17:16:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#120. To: RickyJ (#75)

I realize that this birth certificate thing is nothing but BS propaganda to draw attention away from the important issues. While people focus on this meaningless propaganda the country is being destroyed.

bush_is_a_moonie  posted on  2008-11-26   20:54:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#121. To: bush_is_a_moonie (#120)

Why do you feel the need to direct people to what you consider important? The is a freaking chat room for crying out loud, not a national political movement. But you know that, right?

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-11-26   21:01:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#122. To: Jethro Tull (#121)

Because people have been misdirected since the 80s and it is how the anti-American neocons have been able to do the damage they have done. While people concentrate on meaningless issues those in power quietly continue their destruction of our country. It is a tactic that has been used by those in power for hundreds of years and this is how people in countries are fooled and tricked into accepting communism and dictatorships. Anybody in their right mind would know he wouldn't have gotten this far if in fact he was not a U.S. citizen. It is propaganda and nothing else.

bush_is_a_moonie  posted on  2008-11-26   21:05:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#123. To: bush_is_a_moonie (#122) (Edited)

Isn't it presumptuous of you to choose what we should and shouldn't discuss? Again, this is a chat room and people are free to participate or ignore what they choose. I feel very confident nothing nation changing will come from whatever we discuss.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-11-26   21:19:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#124. To: Jethro Tull (#121)

I think that B_i_a_M is a blowhard, and I am as excercised about the question of O's eligibilty as anyone, but the question "Why?" why is 'Bama doing this, is a nagging, nagging one.

Essex proposed this idea in a post to Mr. Spock on LP:

Why?

Marginalizes the opposition in the minds of those who don't pay attention closely. Clinton's handlers wanted the attention on Lewinsky. They could spin that into "prying into his personal life" and fluff off attacks about Ng Lap Seng, Riady, Ron Brown's trade trips etc. Obama's handlers (who are the same people who ran Clinton) don't mind the focus on his birth at all. If they are actually the ones promoting this, I have no way of knowing. But I'm confident they would like it to continue. Let's not discuss Eric Holder and Rahm Emmanuel. Let's talk about how the election is invalid because Obama was born in Kenya. Essex posted on 2008-11-24 19:56:05 ET Reply Trace

IOW's, it could all be a psyop to keep everyone busy while the Dems run their games on the folks. If it is such, it would follow a pattern like this: 1) Create a great stew that grabs the headlines for weeks and weeks until everyone is sick of it. 2) Keep it on a low, low boil for many months isolating O's detractors from the MSM watching sheep. 3) Keep it on the stove until ready - which is never. 4) Throw the whole mess into the trash when another administration takes office.

http://www.libertypost.org/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=247274&Disp=34#C34

Why? Who knows? We're running 100 meter sprints in the dark.

randge  posted on  2008-11-26   21:28:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#125. To: randge (#124)

I find the discussion of his BC interesting, and why the freak should we trust a politician or the machinery that surrounds him? I hope he gets busted and tossed out of office. Then again, I hope that for every president.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-11-26   21:32:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#126. To: Jethro Tull (#125)

I find it fascinating too.

It's illuminated many different corners of the guy's life, that of the gang that he came up with, and all kinds of dark and creepy places like the floorboards of Chicago politics where all the cockroaches hide.

It's fun to watch. It's like watching reptile disembowel and devour each other on the Nature Channel.

Reptiles, however, are somewhat different than politicians. Reptiles don't spend all their time devouring your investments and your home.

randge  posted on  2008-11-26   21:43:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#127. To: randge (#126)

It's illuminated many different corners of the guy's life, that of the gang that he came up with, and all kinds of dark and creepy places like the floorboards of Chicago politics where all the cockroaches hide.

What has me all sorts of curious is his mother, Stanley. Someone please tell me how does a single mother become a world traveler without any visible means of income? We know she was a fellow traveler, but what did she have to off? Tons of unanswered questions here, with Franklin Davis playing a role, for sure.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-11-26   21:50:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#128. To: Jethro Tull (#127)

How much money do you make writing dirty books, writing small town columns and being a communist?

Spooks.

randge  posted on  2008-11-26   21:56:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#129. To: Jethro Tull (#127)

What has me all sorts of curious is his mother, Stanley. Someone please tell me how does a single mother become a world traveler without any visible means of income? We know she was a fellow traveler, but what did she have to off?

And she was doing all her globe-trotting around the same time that BUBBA CLINTON was going all over Eastern Europe and the Soviet Union. How did HE finance HIS travels?? Is there a connection??? Hmmmm....

“The best and first guarantor of our neutrality and our independent existence is the defensive will of the people…and the proverbial marksmanship of the Swiss shooter. Each soldier a good marksman! Each shot a hit!”
-Schweizerische Schuetzenzeitung (Swiss Shooting Federation) April, 1941

X-15  posted on  2008-11-26   21:56:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#130. To: Jethro Tull (#127)

In the new era the red-diaper renegades will continue to control the same amount of air-time on networks news as they have for the last twenty years. They will continue to engage in philosophic war with red-diaper loyalists, conducting shallow yet flashy ad campaign complete with jingle enticing listener to one vision or another of police state.

And they write innumerable books; being too vain and distracted for silence: seeking every one after his own elevation, and dodging his emptiness. - T. S. Eliot

Dakmar  posted on  2008-11-26   22:00:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#131. To: X-15, randge, all (#129)

Good point about Clinton. I had forgotten all about those mysterious trips. Would it be KooKy of me to think outside political forces were working 24x7x365 to pull down our nation from the inside? I recall something about "all enemies, foreign and domestic." Silly us for being curious.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-11-26   22:00:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#132. To: Dakmar (#130)

I can't disagree with the two sides of the political equation we're treated to. That's why I don't participate in the political process. Too many disappointments; too little time left for me.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-11-26   22:04:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#133. To: Dakmar (#130)

Now there's a pithy post.

You just wonder. This Kabuki show has had a decent run. How long can they keep it up?

Probably as long as they intend to, I guess.

All at once, when they're tired of it they'll roll up the scenery, and when the lights come on, the audience will find the exit doors locked.

randge  posted on  2008-11-26   22:10:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#134. To: randge (#133)

You just wonder. This Kabuki show has had a decent run. How long can they keep it up?

What's the recidivist re-election rate for Congress? Something like 95% last time I heard.

And they write innumerable books; being too vain and distracted for silence: seeking every one after his own elevation, and dodging his emptiness. - T. S. Eliot

Dakmar  posted on  2008-11-26   22:15:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#135. To: bluegrass (#109) (Edited)

"Questions of constitutional eligibility are just mere trifles, eh?"

And what the fuck is wrong with a native born American serving as president?

Engage in mental masturbation all you want, but it boils down to he is very much qualified, wil be sworn in and will serve as president and do a very good job of it.


"You only have power over people so long as you don't take everything away from them. But when you've robbed a man of everything he's no longer in your power -- he's free again. Alexander Solzhenitsyn

Ferret Mike  posted on  2008-11-27   1:04:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#136. To: Ferret Mike, bluegrass (#135)

"Questions of constitutional eligibility are just mere trifles, eh?"

And what the fuck is wrong with a native born American serving as president?

Engage in mental masturbation all you want, but it boils down to he is very much qualified, wil be sworn in and will serve as president and do a very good job of it.

New Bong eh?

What do you use in it? Grape Kool-Aid?

Oh'Bummer is busily nominating the dark side of the political establishment, is very probably foreign born, and is busy sucking up to Wall Street and the Fed.

This is change?

Got Dope?

I know - silly question.

"The difference between an honorable man and a moral man is that an honorable man regrets a discreditable act even when it has worked and he is in no danger of being caught." ~ H. L. Mencken

Original_Intent  posted on  2008-11-27   1:42:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#137. To: Original_Intent, Ferret Mike, bluegrass (#136)

My new favorite cartoon


Meet the new boss, same as the old boss — The Who

farmfriend  posted on  2008-11-27   1:51:02 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#138. To: farmfriend, Ferret Mike, aka Mikey the Weasel, all (#137)

The main change from the Duhbya pResidency to the Oh'Bummer - Different Party Branding.

Otherwise what we are getting from Oh'Bummer is not the third Klinton Term but the third Duhbya Term.

By the way Mikey - you will recall that is exactly what I said would happen.

"The difference between an honorable man and a moral man is that an honorable man regrets a discreditable act even when it has worked and he is in no danger of being caught." ~ H. L. Mencken

Original_Intent  posted on  2008-11-27   2:04:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#139. To: TwentyTwelve (#52)

How long will the Obama spell last?

It has already lasted long enough to cause people to forget we have a Constitution which must be obeyed.

Who knows what else will happen in the next four years? Dictator for life?

It is now time for Atlas to shrug.

mirage  posted on  2008-11-27   2:29:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#140. To: bush_is_a_moonie (#120)

I realize that this birth certificate thing is nothing but BS propaganda to draw attention away from the important issues. While people focus on this meaningless propaganda the country is being destroyed.

Getting people to realize we have a Constitution and getting them to read and understand it and THEN getting them to stand up for it is NEVER meaningless.

Think about that for a little while. The Constitution is back in vogue and you want to tell people to ignore it?

Unfreakingbelievable....

It is now time for Atlas to shrug.

mirage  posted on  2008-11-27   2:39:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#141. To: Ferret Mike, bluegrass, farmfriend, christine, Twenty Twelve, Wudidiz, Scrapper2, all (#135)

"Questions of constitutional eligibility are just mere trifles, eh?"

And what the fuck is wrong with a native born American serving as president?

None whatsoever.

When are we going to get one?

Barry Soetoro WILL NOT produce a Birth Certificate, and has sealed and is keeping secret his application to Columbia - because it would show that he was a foreign student Barry Soetoro of Jakarta, Indonesia.

Oh'Bummer will not produce a Birth Certificate that validly proves he is a natural born U.S. Citizen because HE CAN'T. If he could he would have already done so. Instead what we are getting is stonewalling, Bush-like secrecy and obfuscation.

And so Mikey your only response is to bluster, evade, and dissemble. Good show. It shows you are an Oh'Bummer Team Player - too bad you are not as loyal to this country.

Oh, and GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO BEAVERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRS!

"The difference between an honorable man and a moral man is that an honorable man regrets a discreditable act even when it has worked and he is in no danger of being caught." ~ H. L. Mencken

Original_Intent  posted on  2008-11-27   2:51:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#142. To: Ferret Mike (#135)

And what the fuck is wrong with a native born American serving as president?

Nothing. Obama still hasn't proven that he is nor has he even addressed the issue himself. Instead, he sends flunkies and toadies to run flak for him on the question.

he is very much qualified, will be sworn in and will serve as president and do a very good job of it.

Who are you trying to convince - me or you?

Eff the Bankers

bluegrass  posted on  2008-11-27   4:19:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#143. To: bluegrass (#142)

Are you trying to convince me I have doubt he is native born? Why?

This is one of the most lame topics ever to hit 4UM. It is one taking an aspect of the Constitutional stipulations and beating someone very undeserving of it over the head with it.

Piss on you.


"You only have power over people so long as you don't take everything away from them. But when you've robbed a man of everything he's no longer in your power -- he's free again. Alexander Solzhenitsyn

Ferret Mike  posted on  2008-11-27   5:29:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#144. To: Original_Intent (#141)

is keeping secret his application to Columbia - because it would show that he was a foreign student Barry Soetoro of Jakarta, Indonesia.

That's what it is..

Lady X  posted on  2008-11-27   9:03:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#145. To: Original_Intent (#141)

does he have to come to your house and show it to you? I guess the officials in Hawaii who have said he was born in Hawaii and that they have a verified, valid birth certificate are just part of the conspiracy. You guys are so dumb. LOL. I bet if he came to your house and showed you the original you'd still swear up and down it was a forgery! LOL.

bush_is_a_moonie  posted on  2008-11-27   9:31:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#146. To: mirage (#140)

State of Hawaii has validated his birth in Hawaii. Enough said. Oh, I forgot, everybody in the world is part of the Obama birth certificate conspiracy except those on freedom4um LOL.

You guys should be embarassed. Your constant whining about something that has been validated/verfied by the state in which he was born would be funny as hell if it wasn't so pitiful.

bush_is_a_moonie  posted on  2008-11-27   9:36:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#147. To: bush_is_a_moonie (#146)

State of Hawaii has validated his birth in Hawaii.

Whoa! That seals the deal for me. Thanks moonie and Happy T-Day!

gobble gobble......

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-11-27   9:40:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#148. To: Jethro Tull (#147)

So you are saying that no matter who validates his birth certificate and that he is a U.S. citizen, including Obama himself, it wouldn't matter LOL. Why do you focus on such meaniningless issues while the country is being destroyed? I am beginning to understand how the neocons have been able to pull their communist crap the past 30 years. Feed the people some off-the-wall radical BS propaganda and use the media to continually reinforce it and they will spend so much time on it that they will be oblivious to the important issues.

bush_is_a_moonie  posted on  2008-11-27   9:59:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#149. To: TwentyTwelve (#0)

NO NO NO NO.... OH NO, IT CAN'T BE TRUE.. OH NO, HELP US, SAVE US, OH NO NO NO!!!

bush_is_a_moonie  posted on  2008-11-27   10:14:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#150. To: bush_is_a_moonie (#148)

I'm saying keep an open mind and don't fall for government (at any level) propaganda.

gobble gobble, again.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-11-27   10:24:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#151. To: Jethro Tull (#150) (Edited)

Post 149 says it all about you and those like you LOL. I wonder how many of you will run out and buy duct tape and plastic after watching it LOL. No wonder America is becoming the embarassment of the free world. By the way, the earth is flat and the two Border Patrol agents Compeon and Ramos fell off so we can't save them and now don't have to worry LOL.

What has happened to so many in this country? Did they spike the water with LSD or something? Ultra 5 subjects LOL.

This has become so funny that I think I'll start copying the stuff on here and send it to some internet humor site so they can post it and normal people will be get a good laugh from this stuff you guys post about this LOL.

bush_is_a_moonie  posted on  2008-11-27   10:29:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#152. To: bush_is_a_moonie (#151)

Nice try at Topic Deflection, but no thanks. We'll continue to read and discuss what interests us, despite your strong objections. Go start a Compeon and Ramos thread. I'm pissed that they're in jail, but be warned. Your fellow Os are internationalists and believe in open borders so don't expect much action.

Anyway...

gobble gobble, over and out.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-11-27   10:45:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#153. To: Ferret Mike (#143)

Are you trying to convince me I have doubt he is native born?

It sounds like you already have some doubts.

Eff the Bankers

bluegrass  posted on  2008-11-27   10:47:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#154. To: bush_is_a_moonie (#149)

--

Oh no! They are here and out to get us, run!!!! ;-D


"You only have power over people so long as you don't take everything away from them. But when you've robbed a man of everything he's no longer in your power -- he's free again. Alexander Solzhenitsyn

Ferret Mike  posted on  2008-11-27   10:53:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#155. To: bush_is_a_moonie (#151)

I think that you've made your point, old man: This is a distraction.

We've thrown all the brickbats at each other that we can lay our hands on on the topic of Obama's BC.

Instead of amplifying the level of hostility here, maybe someone could take a look at the larger context of this situation. Let me ask you, if this is indeed simply a distraction, what is the chief malfeasance, operation, black flag, robbery that this is diverting us from?

Explain. Elucidate. Illustrate.

Your Ball.

randge  posted on  2008-11-27   10:58:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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