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Title: Obama: Let illegals get aid for college
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URL Source: http://www.daytondailynews.com/blog ... 007/10/11/obama_let_illeg.html
Published: Oct 11, 2008
Author: Scott Elliot
Post Date: 2008-11-29 15:34:05 by Obama4America
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Views: 3227
Comments: 88

Obama: Let illegals get aid for college

By selliott | Thursday, October 11, 2007, 12:03 AM

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(Obama campaigning Tuesday in Londonderry, N.H.)

On Tuesday, Barack Obama called on California Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger not to veto a bill that would make illegal immigrants who graduate high school eligible for college aid.

Schwarzenegger has vetoed a similar measure once before. Obama co-sponsored a similar measure when he was in the Illinois legislature.

Also check out this story from a Georgia-based writer which makes a passing reference to Obama’s education positions but compares the Democratic senator to Ronald Reagan.

This post also appears on the Education Writers Association’s Education Election blog.

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#6. To: Obama4America, Ferret Mike, a vast right wing conspiracy, Obamaphiles (#0)

On Tuesday, Barack Obama called on California Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger not to veto a bill that would make illegal immigrants who graduate high school eligible for college aid.

Barry has "no standing" in state education affairs. Barry can take his "suggestion" and stick it where the sun don't shine. Screw this Limousine Liberal. Who asked for his Affirmative Action butthead's advice? The Governator is the highest elected official in California.

Illegal means illegal, Barry. If Mexican nationals want to apply to attend California colleges and they have THE QUALIFYING BOARD EXAM GRADES, then they might be accepted and in this case they need to pay international student tuition. If Mexican nationals cannot afford California college tuition, perhaps they might qualify for financial aid from the MEXICAN government to study abroad.

California's college aid should go only to California legal residents who are US citizens. End of story.

scrapper2  posted on  2008-11-30   0:29:23 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

I have a new personal policy, but an insult in the ping box, you get no response to your posting other then to make fun of your childishness.

Your post is scroll by, I won't read it.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2008-11-30   11:18:05 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

other then THAN to make fun of your childishness.

Why can't you get this right, when the fact is you ALWAYS (without exception) get it wrong ?

noone222  posted on  2008-11-30   12:34:54 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

That is a perspective. You have your opinion, and I mine. I simply do not care if you do not agree, so what is the point of your affirmation here?

Surely you know by now I believe and say and actually believe what I express, I never write just to make someone happy about what I say.

What I submit though is that the particular fashion you express yourself here denotes a chip on the shoulder intolerance for my POV. I am hearing in here the anger of Obama being amplified into a mindless desire to look for scapegoats.

When you and others worse off then you calm down and really want to talk and not do the emotionally charged inquisition thingie, let me know.

Until then, I see no reason to join in if I look like just a piñata to you.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2008-11-30   12:53:47 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

I was simply pointing out the FACT that you always write the word "THEN" when it should be "THAN" ... and vice versa !

Politically, I know you're an exercise in Obama worshipping futility, so I don't expend any energy towards that issue. I just wish you'd learn to use the words "then" and "than" correctly since most 3rd graders are able to do so.

noone222  posted on  2008-11-30   13:32:44 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Everyone has theeir foibles. Mine is I can no longer touch type and try to write as fast as I once was able to so my train of though doesn't run past the rails I lay down for it on the keyboard.

No doubt you see where I have been too impatient with the spell checker my clumsy since braking wrists and lower arms bad enough to need large bone grafts nesssitate for me to use.

Noted. I can do my best, but I imagine like everyone else in here, I will typo. All imperfect humans do that, C'est la guerre.

Now, after the spell checker:

Everyone has their foibles. Mine is I can no longer touch type and try to write as fast as I once was able to so my train of though doesn't run past the rails I lay down for it on the keyboard.

No doubt you see where I have been too impatient with the spell checker my clumsy since braking wrists and lower arms bad enough to need large bone grafts necessitate for me to use.

Noted. I can do my best, but I imagine like everyone else in here, I will typo. All imperfect humans do that, C'est la guerre.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2008-11-30   13:45:04 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Everyone has theeir foibles. Mine is I can no longer touch type and try to write as fast as I once was able to so my train of though doesn't run past the rails I lay down for it on the keyboard.

I could accept this lame ass excuse if you didn't operate the error perfectly. You use these two words backwards each and everytime that you use them. This isn't a mis-spelling or a typo but a mental error.

Above, the word "their" is mis-spelled or it's a typo, as is the word "though" which should have a "t" at the end of it, "thought" being the word you were attempting.

Your use of the words "then" and "than" in their exact opposite correct usage every time is something else altogether. It's almost inexplicable that you would get it wrong "PERFECTLY".

I'll desist in this badgering ... because your inability to make the proper choice of words is of minimal relevance compared to your acceptance of Obama's refusal to simply provide his birth certificate, a CONSTITUTIONAL requirement. The reason that this is important is that when we openly accept disdain for the CONSTITUTION in one respect we have implicitly relegated it to the trash bin, and it's the ONLY DEFENSE AGAINST TYRANNY excepting a revolution.

noone222  posted on  2008-12-01   5:10:54 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

"I'll desist in this badgering ... because your inability to make the proper choice of words is of minimal relevance compared to your acceptance of Obama's refusal to simply provide his birth certificate, a CONSTITUTIONAL requirement. The reason that this is important is that when we openly accept disdain for the CONSTITUTION in one respect we have implicitly relegated it to the trash bin, and it's the ONLY DEFENSE AGAINST TYRANNY excepting a revolution."

He was born in Hawaii.

He satisfies the Constitutional requirement.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2008-12-01   7:19:03 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

He was born in Hawaii.

He satisfies the Constitutional requirement.

All the evidence suggests that he was born in Kenya and gave up any claim on U.S. Citizenship for Indonesian Citizenship.

Barry Barack Hussein Soetoro Obama does not satisfy the Constitutional Requirements for President and is thus not qualified to hold the Office.

Of course you don't really care as it fits your hidden agenda to have a Marxist Plutocrat CIA Tool in the Offal Office.

A Pox upon you and the foul darkness you support.

Original_Intent  posted on  2008-12-01   11:31:45 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

All evidence is he was born in Hawaii. I realize to you people are guilty until proven innocent and you are a Swift Boat groupie, but there is zero evidence he was born anywhere else worth a fuck.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2008-12-01   13:36:33 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

All evidence is he was born in Hawaii. I realize to you people are guilty until proven innocent and you are a Swift Boat groupie, but there is zero evidence he was born anywhere else worth a fuck.

Delightful. You begin by trying to put words in my mouth and then continue with fine false logic i.e., an unsupported assertion. You attempt by using Guilt by Association , Loaded Words, and Argumentum Ad Hominem to denigrate a legitimate question and inquiry. One which you, and Oh'Bummer, obviously cannot refute.

So, who do you work for Mike? CIA, FBI, ADL? Or some other "Alphabet Soup" Agency? Or do you simply live in a fog where what you wish to be true is true and facts be damned?

The facts are simply:

1. That he produced a documentary forgery - a "Record of Live Birth" from a state that allows such registration up to a year after a child is born.

2. A "Record of Live Birth" is NOT a Birth Certificate which is a formal document listing specifics i.e., Date, Time, Place of Birth, Hospital, Attending Physician, and has a State Seal. A "Record of Live Birth" is simply a document which attests that a baby was born alive and exists. It's evidenciary value in this matter, even given the serious and sustainable questions regarding its being altered (thus invalidating it), is nearly zero.

3. If he could produce a legitimate legal document i.e., a Birth Certificate he would. Instead he has spent upwards of a million dollars in legal expenses to avoid and prevent having to produce said document.

4. "2" and "3" provide a prima facie evidence that Barry Barack Hussein Soetoro Obama is lying and cannot in fact produce a legal Birth Certificate. To end the controversy all he need do is present a legal Birth Certificate (something which costs much less than a million dollars).

5. He has secured and is withholding his college admissions records and Transcript - something quite unprecedented. The most likely reason for that is that he registered as a foreign student with Indonesian Citizenship. Thus invalidating him Constitutionally a second time from holding the office of the Presidency. (It might also reveal holes and gaps which could connect him to the CIA.)

So, I repeat: Who do you really work for Mikey?

Is that your function in Eugene - to infiltrate local organizations as "one of us"?

And I would note that you remain silent and unresponsive to any of my earlier comments other than trying to prop up the apparent lie that Oh'bummer is Constitutionally qualified to hold the office of President.

Original_Intent  posted on  2008-12-01   14:04:50 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

So, who do you work for Mike? CIA, FBI, ADL? Or some other "Alphabet Soup" Agency? Or do you simply live in a fog where what you wish to be true is true and facts be damned?

It seems the weasel lives in Wonderland.

'I don't know what you mean by "glory",' Alice said.

Humpty Dumpty smiled contemptuously. 'Of course you don't -- till I tell you. I meant "there's a nice knock-down argument for you!"'

'But "glory" doesn't mean "a nice knock-down argument",' Alice objected.

'When I use a word,' Humpty Dumpty said, in rather a scornful tone, 'it means just what I choose it to mean -- neither more nor less.'

'The question is,' said Alice, 'whether you can make words mean so many different things.'

'The question is,' said Humpty Dumpty, 'which is to be master -- that's all.'

'But really you should have a lady's-maid!'

'I'm sure I'll take you with pleasure!' the Queen said. 'Twopence a week and jam every other day.'

Alice couldn't help laughing, as she said 'I don't want you to hire me -- and I don't care for jam.'

'It's very good jam,' said the Queen.

'Well, I don't want any to-day, at any rate.'

'You couldn't have it if you did want it,' the Queen said. 'The rule is, jam to-morrow and jam yesterday -- but never jam to-day.'

'It must come sometimes to "jam to-day",' Alice objected.

'No, it ca'n't, said the Queen. 'It's jam every other day: to-day isn't any other day, you know.'

'I ca'n't believe that!' said Alice.

'Ca'n't you?' the Queen said in a pitying tone. 'Try again: draw a long breath, and shut your eyes.'

Alice laughed. 'There's no use trying,' she said 'one ca'n't believe impossible things.'

'I daresay you haven't had much practice,' said the Queen. 'When I was your age, I always did it for half-an-hour a day. Why, sometimes I've believed as many as six impossible things before breakfast.

James Deffenbach  posted on  2008-12-01   16:49:45 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

So are you saying then that when we want to know what Mikey really means "Go Ask Alice"? "When she's ten feet tall?"

I guess it beats going to "The Dark Side Of The Moon".

How about "when the White Knight is talking backwards"?

Original_Intent  posted on  2008-12-02   11:16:45 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

hehehehehe

Rotara  posted on  2008-12-02   11:18:01 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

#75. To: Rotara (#73)

;-)

Original_Intent  posted on  2008-12-02 11:21:13 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

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