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Title: Obama: Let illegals get aid for college
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URL Source: http://www.daytondailynews.com/blog ... 007/10/11/obama_let_illeg.html
Published: Oct 11, 2008
Author: Scott Elliot
Post Date: 2008-11-29 15:34:05 by Obama4America
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Views: 1205
Comments: 88
Obama: Let illegals get aid for college By selliott | Thursday, October 11, 2007, 12:03 AM obamaillegals.jpg (Obama campaigning Tuesday in Londonderry, N.H.) On Tuesday, Barack Obama called on California Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger not to veto a bill that would make illegal immigrants who graduate high school eligible for college aid. Schwarzenegger has vetoed a similar measure once before. Obama co-sponsored a similar measure when he was in the Illinois legislature. Also check out this story from a Georgia-based writer which makes a passing reference to Obama’s education positions but compares the Democratic senator to Ronald Reagan. This post also appears on the Education Writers Association’s Education Election blog.
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#1. To: All (#0)
I suppose, that since obama is an illegal alien hisself, and gots him some free skooling, he wants to spread the wealth!
Bozoed. I'm sure listening to you in your usual nick here in 4UM is enough. I don't need to hear your spoof account too.
That sounds like change you can believe in. So, I suppose you have no comment on the fact that an illegal alien (s)elected for president wants to give free school for those like himself?
What good will college do for illegal aliens, since the average Mexican IQ is 89?
Pugs rule, all other dogs drool.
Good question.
Change will not come if we wait for some other person or some other time. I am the one we've been waiting for. I am the change that we seek. Barack Obama
Barry has "no standing" in state education affairs. Barry can take his "suggestion" and stick it where the sun don't shine. Screw this Limousine Liberal. Who asked for his Affirmative Action butthead's advice? The Governator is the highest elected official in California. Illegal means illegal, Barry. If Mexican nationals want to apply to attend California colleges and they have THE QUALIFYING BOARD EXAM GRADES, then they might be accepted and in this case they need to pay international student tuition. If Mexican nationals cannot afford California college tuition, perhaps they might qualify for financial aid from the MEXICAN government to study abroad. California's college aid should go only to California legal residents who are US citizens. End of story.
Obama believes America can absorb the wretched of the earth into its political life without catastrophe, millions of mud people. Open borders promises to be the centerpiece of his administration. Congress will appropriate trillions of dollars to bring mud people to America. It will decrease values both real estate and human; crime, ignorance and filth decrease values.
Life is a tragedy to those who feel, and a comedy to those who think.
I have a new personal policy, but an insult in the ping box, you get no response to your posting other then to make fun of your childishness. Your post is scroll by, I won't read it.
Your post is scroll by, I won't read it. Translation: "I will not tolerate heresy against the Obamessiah! He is inerrant and regardless of how many times he twists and turns, reneges, and pisses on the Constitution I will continue to worship him! And you can't make me look - nyah, nyah, naa, nyah nyah!"
"The difference between an honorable man and a moral man is that an honorable man regrets a discreditable act even when it has worked and he is in no danger of being caught." ~ H. L. Mencken
No, what I am dealing with is your lack of perspective. The ping box is not there to leverage your opinion or to give you an edge in a discussion. Now, is that so fucking hard to understand?
Why can't you get this right, when the fact is you ALWAYS (without exception) get it wrong ?
Where's your birth certificate Barack ?
I think folks are feed up with Barry already and have a MAJOR case of buyers remorse..
Nothing to say? Not going to defend the turning of every form box in a posting window into a piss on someone's leg to try to definitively let them know that no matter what they say you don't care? That there is no discussion, just a diatribe coming from you with no respect for anyone with the audacity to think differently then you? Why not ask Christine to put several boxes in there for various sorts of insults and FReeperlike dissings? Either be somewhat professional and consistent about what you do with some politess, or you can kiss my ass. It gets no answer. Now, amuse me; defend as god given, and 'obviously' mature and friendly to actual debate and lively discussion putting your gang graffiti in the ping box is. It's your dime. I don't click on anymore posts flipping me off before I even get there. This is a one time response on this.
but since the Republican-dummies ate shit for 8 years (fed to them by "their boy"), the Demo-dummies should sit back, put their napkins under their chins and dig in to their 8 year shit-feast ! Get your fill Ferret Mike !
Where's your birth certificate Barack ?
That is a perspective. You have your opinion, and I mine. I simply do not care if you do not agree, so what is the point of your affirmation here? Surely you know by now I believe and say and actually believe what I express, I never write just to make someone happy about what I say. What I submit though is that the particular fashion you express yourself here denotes a chip on the shoulder intolerance for my POV. I am hearing in here the anger of Obama being amplified into a mindless desire to look for scapegoats. When you and others worse off then you calm down and really want to talk and not do the emotionally charged inquisition thingie, let me know. Until then, I see no reason to join in if I look like just a piñata to you.
One should get all worked up over a generic blog entry purporting some sound- bite mob provoking response?
“Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just Powers from the Consent of the Governed, that whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these Ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government.” Declaration of Independence July 4, 1776 "
I don't give the people that much credit.
I was simply pointing out the FACT that you always write the word "THEN" when it should be "THAN" ... and vice versa ! Politically, I know you're an exercise in Obama worshipping futility, so I don't expend any energy towards that issue. I just wish you'd learn to use the words "then" and "than" correctly since most 3rd graders are able to do so.
Where's your birth certificate Barack ?
No doubt you see where I have been too impatient with the spell checker my clumsy since braking wrists and lower arms bad enough to need large bone grafts nesssitate for me to use. Noted. I can do my best, but I imagine like everyone else in here, I will typo. All imperfect humans do that, C'est la guerre. Now, after the spell checker: Everyone has their foibles. Mine is I can no longer touch type and try to write as fast as I once was able to so my train of though doesn't run past the rails I lay down for it on the keyboard. No doubt you see where I have been too impatient with the spell checker my clumsy since braking wrists and lower arms bad enough to need large bone grafts necessitate for me to use. Noted. I can do my best, but I imagine like everyone else in here, I will typo. All imperfect humans do that, C'est la guerre.
Mikey. Mikey baby. You really do need to watch that blood pressure - you're going to blow an artery. In case you hadn't noticed I am not on the board at all times. Neither is it incumbent upon me to immediately respond to one of your temper tantrums. Mikey, I know this may be lost on you but I feel obligated to say a word, the word is satire. I know you might find this perplexing but there is a difference between a diatribe and a satire. A satire is taking something ridiculous and pointing out its ridiculosity by slightly exaggerating it. A diatribe is an angry temper tantrum in words - something I don't need to define for you since you already know all about it. Of course some things beggar my ability to satirize as they are so patently skewed to ridculousness that satire is almost overkill, but a little underlining helps. Take for example the mindless uncritical support of the Obamessiah by his worshippers which is no different in any important particular from the worship expressed by the common garden variety Bushbot. They are like two peas in a pod. In both cases there is an endless childlike ability to follow every twist, corkscrew, and turn of their object of veneration and defend it as a wonderful insight even if it is the diametric opposite from what they were propounding minutes, days, or hours before. Of course neither the Bushbot or the O'bot will brook even the slightest questioning of the object of their reverence, or pointing out how what they now claim to believe with all their heart, because of divine grace I presume, is the exact opposite of what they were touting as gospel a pittance in time before. Of course that does help make the Obamessiah's point - "he is the change"; anti-war today, attack tomorrow, opposed to business as usual but reappointing the same retreads. That's quite a change all right, and he can count on his faithful 'bots to say "see he was right all along" - whatever the current "all along" is. Uh, Mikey? You were the first to address me with profanity when you could not refute one of my arguments. I have never addressed you with profanity, and have treated you, up until that point, with politeness and respect despite my differing positions i.e., logic and reason versus vacant PsyOps inspired adulation. I must admit though that you are consistent - whenever I have presented you with an argument you could not refute you did not refute it. Nope, you disappeared. Translation: Waaaaaaaaaaaah, waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah, .... P.S.: Guess which finger I'm holding up?
"The difference between an honorable man and a moral man is that an honorable man regrets a discreditable act even when it has worked and he is in no danger of being caught." ~ H. L. Mencken
Those who voted for this empty suit are too thick to have buyer's remorse. They want perks. If he can't deliver entitlements, only then will they show buyers' remorse. It's all about perks.
Mikey's #1 !!
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
Looks like you have taken the advanced course in deciphering Ferretese---one of the languages of the communist bloc I understand.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. I just find myself wishing this despicable evil oligarchy would hurry up and DIE already. Sooner or later our current empire phase is going to end, it's inevitable. Here's hoping something comes along in the wake of the wreckage that's actually better for the human race. I'm personally of the opinion that the best thing that could happen would be for the U.S. to break up into about twenty to thirty smaller countries, each with a different government and currency. With any luck at least some of those new countries would be smart enough to tell the central bankers to take a hike and have their own GOVERNMENT ISSUED currency that is SPENT into circulation instead of being LENT into circulation WITH INTEREST by private bankers, which is the current horrifying cancerous nightmare of a disaster system that we're afflicted with.
#2. To: Obama4America (#1)
"You only have power over people so long as you don't take everything away from them. But when you've robbed a man of everything he's no longer in your power -- he's free again. Alexander Solzhenitsyn
#3. To: Ferret Mike (#2)
#4. To: Obama4America (#0)
#5. To: Turtle (#4)
What good will college do for illegal aliens, since the average Mexican IQ is 89?
#6. To: Obama4America, Ferret Mike, a vast right wing conspiracy, Obamaphiles (#0)
On Tuesday, Barack Obama called on California Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger not to veto a bill that would make illegal immigrants who graduate high school eligible for college aid.
#7. To: scrapper2 (#6)
#8. To: scrapper2 (#6)
"You only have power over people so long as you don't take everything away from them. But when you've robbed a man of everything he's no longer in your power -- he's free again. Alexander Solzhenitsyn
#9. To: Ferret Mike, Scrapper2, Obatrons, Obaphiles, O'bots, Dupes, Suckers, Marks, Shills, Dupes, all (#8)
I have a new personal policy, but an insult in the ping box, you get no response to your posting other then to make fun of your childishness.
#10. To: Original_Intent (#9)
(Edited)
"You only have power over people so long as you don't take everything away from them. But when you've robbed a man of everything he's no longer in your power -- he's free again. Alexander Solzhenitsyn
#11. To: Ferret Mike (#8)
other then THAN to make fun of your childishness.
#12. To: noone222, farmfriend (#11)
#13. To: Original_Intent (#9)
"You only have power over people so long as you don't take everything away from them. But when you've robbed a man of everything he's no longer in your power -- he's free again. Alexander Solzhenitsyn
#14. To: Lady X (#12)
I think folks are fed up with Barry already ....
#15. To: noone222 (#11)
"You only have power over people so long as you don't take everything away from them. But when you've robbed a man of everything he's no longer in your power -- he's free again. Alexander Solzhenitsyn
#16. To: Obama4America (#0)
#17. To: Lady X (#12)
I think folks are feed up with Barry already and have a MAJOR case of buyers remorse..
Meet the new boss, same as the old boss — The Who
#18. To: Ferret Mike (#15)
#19. To: noone222 (#18)
Everyone has theeir foibles. Mine is I can no longer touch type and try to write as fast as I once was able to so my train of though doesn't run past the rails I lay down for it on the keyboard.
"You only have power over people so long as you don't take everything away from them. But when you've robbed a man of everything he's no longer in your power -- he's free again. Alexander Solzhenitsyn
#20. To: Ferret Mike, christine, Jethro Tull, Rotara, bluegrass, farmfriend, Twenty Twelve, Wudidiz, all (#13)
(Edited)
Mikey: "Nothing to say? Not going to defend the turning of every form box in a posting window into a piss on someone's leg to try to definitively let them know that no matter what they say you don't care?"
Mikey: "That there is no discussion, just a diatribe coming from you with no respect for anyone with the audacity to think differently then you?"
Either be somewhat professional and consistent about what you do with some politess, or you can kiss my ass.
It's your dime. I don't click on anymore posts flipping me off before I even get there. This is a one time response on this.
#21. To: Lady X (#12)
I think folks are feed up with Barry already and have a MAJOR case of buyers remorse..
#22. To: Original_Intent, ferret the feral reserve tool mikey (#20)
P.S.: Guess which finger I'm holding up?
#23. To: Original_Intent (#9)
Translation: "I will not tolerate heresy against the Obamessiah! He is inerrant and regardless of how many times he twists and turns, reneges, and pisses on the Constitution I will continue to worship him! And you can't make me look - nyah, nyah, naa, nyah nyah!"
Lord Acton
#24. To: noone222 (#14)
...but since the Republican-dummies ate shit for 8 years (fed to them by "their boy"), the Demo-dummies should sit back, put their napkins under their chins and dig in to their 8 year shit-feast !
 | Teaching Others In The ONLY Way They EVER Learn! |
#25. To: Original_Intent (#20)
I bet I know which one! ;^) And do you have the Obots pegged! No different than the Bushbots, they will brook no dissent from the position taken by their Obamasiah even if he has changed said position in the last ten minutes.
P.S.: Guess which finger I'm holding up?
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton
#26. To: Elliott Jackalope (#24)
Our true enemy is the "IGNORANCE" and "APATHY" shared by 90% of Americans.
I just find myself wishing this despicable evil oligarchy
Where's your birth certificate Barack ?
#27. To: Ferret Mike (#19) (Edited)
I could accept this lame ass excuse if you didn't operate the error perfectly. You use these two words backwards each and everytime that you use them. This isn't a mis-spelling or a typo but a mental error. Above, the word "their" is mis-spelled or it's a typo, as is the word "though" which should have a "t" at the end of it, "thought" being the word you were attempting. Your use of the words "then" and "than" in their exact opposite correct usage every time is something else altogether. It's almost inexplicable that you would get it wrong "PERFECTLY". I'll desist in this badgering ... because your inability to make the proper choice of words is of minimal relevance compared to your acceptance of Obama's refusal to simply provide his birth certificate, a CONSTITUTIONAL requirement. The reason that this is important is that when we openly accept disdain for the CONSTITUTION in one respect we have implicitly relegated it to the trash bin, and it's the ONLY DEFENSE AGAINST TYRANNY excepting a revolution.
Everyone has theeir foibles. Mine is I can no longer touch type and try to write as fast as I once was able to so my train of though doesn't run past the rails I lay down for it on the keyboard.
Where's your birth certificate Barack ?
#28. To: Obama4America (#0)
Stick it up your ass, Barry. By the way, you're a rich lawyer. Where is MY piece of YOUR pie???
Obama: Let illegals get aid for college
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"Corporation: An entity created for the legal protection of its human parasites, whose sole purpose is profit and self-perpetuation." ~~ IndieTx
#29. To: noone222 (#27)
Perhaps you are pointing out an unconscious thing I am doing, who's to say? Suffice it to say I know what the differences in the words are. Recently because of my brother's illness family members I have talked to who have not talked to me for a long time pointed out I have a minor stutter I never had before. When I hit my head I put bad lesions from the right frontal lobe through my brain from the aprox. 40 foot fall to the pavement, which is why I was in a coma myself and came close to dying. Much of it went away, but it's there. I also get comments my personality underwent a change. When I was at the veteran's rehab unit in Vancouver, WA I started doing speech therapy, but the guy stopped it saying, and I paraphrase; "many whom I help have serious language impairment, you Mr. McCarthy have a great deal of language skill and you are fine, you don't need my help." Sorry if I am inadvertently doing a malapropism with words, but I suggest that if I do, you rely on your gift of understanding what I obviously meant and leave it at that. I am not perfect, and with all due respect, I doubt you are too.
"You only have power over people so long as you don't take everything away from them. But when you've robbed a man of everything he's no longer in your power -- he's free again. Alexander Solzhenitsyn
#30. To: noone222 (#27)
He was born in Hawaii. He satisfies the Constitutional requirement.
"I'll desist in this badgering ... because your inability to make the proper choice of words is of minimal relevance compared to your acceptance of Obama's refusal to simply provide his birth certificate, a CONSTITUTIONAL requirement. The reason that this is important is that when we openly accept disdain for the CONSTITUTION in one respect we have implicitly relegated it to the trash bin, and it's the ONLY DEFENSE AGAINST TYRANNY excepting a revolution."
"You only have power over people so long as you don't take everything away from them. But when you've robbed a man of everything he's no longer in your power -- he's free again. Alexander Solzhenitsyn
#31. To: Ferret Mike, Jethro Tull, All (#29)
Mike... You have nothing to worry about, nothing to be concerned about, you will be fine. We do not agree on many things and that is the way it should be. I do not agree with myself many times, being a very disagreeable person. hehehehehe Tell Jethro you love him to til death do you part.
I am not perfect, and with all due respect, I doubt you are too.
#32. To: IndieTX (#28)
I would like to see someone ask him that question at a press conference. Of course they won't but I sure would like to see the rat bastige squirm.
Stick it up your ass, Barry. By the way, you're a rich lawyer. Where is MY piece of YOUR pie???
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton
#33. To: Cynicom (#31) (Edited)
Cyni, Don't send that commie tree hugging war monger to me. His support of
war against innocent people makes him persona non grata.
#34. To: James Deffenbach, Ferret Mike, christine, Rotara, Twenty Twelve, Wudidiz, Scrapper2, Jethro Tull, all (#23) (Edited)
Unfortunately I don't think he understands it. At one time, despite our different viewpoints, I thought Mikey capable of rational debate and an honest examination of the available evidence. However, I must admit that I was in error. Instead what I have gotten back are knee-jerk responses, communist catechisms, and fixed ideas which are forbidden to be examined. What I mistook for rationality, his rejection of the Bush Junta and its NeoCon mantras, was simply the reaction of a knee-jerk leftist for anything he, falsely, presumed was the position of the Right. He seems perfectly willing to convince himself that a totalitarian slave state is just peachy as long as it's run by "the right people". A slave is a slave is a slave is a slave regardless of which end of the political spectrum the "Massuh" claims to hail from. I don't think Mikey gets that - or wants to get it. Instead he seems to desire to live in his fog of mantras and catechisms regardless of how the real world shows them to be unwholesome. Like most leftists he thinks that unworkable tyrannical policies and proscriptions will work "if only the right people are in charge". "1984" is OK as long as it's a "Democrat" Fuhrer. The other thing that his automatic leftist programming prevents him from seeing is that freedom for all is the path of greatest good. No, instead like most leftists, despite the lofty "caring" rhetoric, he simply desires, instead of a right wing despot, a left wing despot. Then there will be "manna" and "soma" for all. After all if you live in a totalitarian leftist misery you need "soma" in order to survive the spirit crushing hell which Mikey's kind would bring upon us.
Looks like you have taken the advanced course in deciphering Ferretese---one of the languages of the communist bloc I understand.
"The difference between an honorable man and a moral man is that an honorable man regrets a discreditable act even when it has worked and he is in no danger of being caught." ~ H. L. Mencken
#35. To: Jethro Tull (#33) (Edited)
Now, now Jethro, calm down. Remember what the doctor said about your blood pressure.
Don't sent that commie tree hugging war monger to me. His support of war against innocent people makes him persona non grata.
#36. To: Cynicom (#35)
Actually the time is now to disregard DRs orders and expose the likes of Mikey & his leftist companions.
#37. To: Ferret Mike, noone222 (#30) (Edited)
He satisfies the Constitutional requirement. All the evidence suggests that he was born in Kenya and gave up any claim on U.S. Citizenship for Indonesian Citizenship. Barry Barack Hussein Soetoro Obama does not satisfy the Constitutional Requirements for President and is thus not qualified to hold the Office. Of course you don't really care as it fits your hidden agenda to have a Marxist Plutocrat CIA Tool in the Offal Office. A Pox upon you and the foul darkness you support.
He was born in Hawaii.
"The difference between an honorable man and a moral man is that an honorable man regrets a discreditable act even when it has worked and he is in no danger of being caught." ~ H. L. Mencken
#38. To: Jethro Tull (#36)
Too late. White America may hunker down and defend themselves for survival but they will not step forward to remove this government. That will not happen and measures are being taken to ensure anyone with such ideas is quickly removed. Look how quickly and easily Paul was removed.
Actually the time is now to disregard DRs orders and expose the likes of Mikey & his leftist companions.
#39. To: Original_Intent (#37)
Exactly. Now that their guy is in, wars, constitutional abuses and even a redux of the Clinton years are all peachy. The administration that Obama is cobbling together is every bit as blood thirsty as that of #43. That Mikey supports this swill is all anyone needs to know about his belief system. It's the worst of both neoconservativism and socialism.
Of course you don't really care as it fits your hidden agenda to have a Marxist Plutocrat CIA Tool in the Offal Office.
#40. To: Cynicom (#38)
I don't for a second expect groups to step up. As each of us is personally confronted in a yet to be determined way, only then will patriots be separated form bloviators.
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